Re: Confused!

February 17, 2004

Problem is Pat, most Americans have *no* will power. There is no such thing

as a little bit. One bite of a good food means 100% full indulgence with

most Americans. It just isn't in our blood IMO heh heh heh

Regards,

Confused!

> >

> > Hi , Harry and Pat and all listers,

> > I am now totally confused and in a whirl.

> > mmmmm What to do?

> > First for any new members I wish to make it clear I am not yet a

diabetic

> > but need to drop weight or I've been told I will become one.

> > Atkins says no more than twenty carbs a day, but they don't count

calories

> > just carbs.

> > you say you get your marvelous lab tonight test results from as

> many

> > as

> > fifteen carbs a meal.

> > Pat has a very valid point that folks gain weight on Atkins even with

low

> > carbs but high calories. She is right!

> > Harry is encouraging exercise and of course no matter what this is

> > excellent.

> > Tonight I am going for groceries and I am almost afraid to eat let alone

> > what to buy.

> > Have considered just plain eating anything. Though I truly have lost my

> > taste for many things loaded with carbs. I'll never go back to

carelessly

> > eating just any old thing.

> > I feel stuck in no man's land.

> > Harry mentioned if a person has a one pound steak then he has just about

> > used up all calories for the day. So

> > I have two pork chops in the house. Am guessing they are six ounces.

> > Will find out tonight. Gee!

> >

> > Rita

> >

February 17, 2004

What is that old saying?

" In for a penny, in for a pound. "

Confused!

> > >

> > > Hi , Harry and Pat and all listers,

> > > I am now totally confused and in a whirl.

> > > mmmmm What to do?

> > > First for any new members I wish to make it clear I am not yet a

> diabetic

> > > but need to drop weight or I've been told I will become one.

> > > Atkins says no more than twenty carbs a day, but they don't count

> calories

> > > just carbs.

> > > you say you get your marvelous lab tonight test results from as

> > many

> > > as

> > > fifteen carbs a meal.

> > > Pat has a very valid point that folks gain weight on Atkins even with

> low

> > > carbs but high calories. She is right!

> > > Harry is encouraging exercise and of course no matter what this is

> > > excellent.

> > > Tonight I am going for groceries and I am almost afraid to eat let

alone

> > > what to buy.

> > > Have considered just plain eating anything. Though I truly have lost

my

> > > taste for many things loaded with carbs. I'll never go back to

> carelessly

> > > eating just any old thing.

> > > I feel stuck in no man's land.

> > > Harry mentioned if a person has a one pound steak then he has just

about

> > > used up all calories for the day. So

> > > I have two pork chops in the house. Am guessing they are six ounces.

> > > Will find out tonight. Gee!

> > >

> > > Rita

> > >

February 17, 2004

Well I do not think it is exclusive to

Americans. I think we could take

a

look at human nature. So many of us, me for sure, go more by feelings

than thinking. I have found distracting myself helps a lot. Am thinking

of taking a night course in something to keep productively occupied.

Thing is they are so darn expensive!

Rita

> What is that old saying?

> " In for a penny, in for a pound. "

> Confused!

> > > >

> > > > Hi , Harry and Pat and all listers,

> > > > I am now totally confused and in a whirl.

> > > > mmmmm What to do?

> > > > First for any new members I wish to make it clear I am not yet a

> > diabetic

> > > > but need to drop weight or I've been told I will become one.

> > > > Atkins says no more than twenty carbs a day, but they don't count

> > calories

> > > > just carbs.

> > > > you say you get your marvelous lab tonight test results from as

> > > many

> > > > as

> > > > fifteen carbs a meal.

> > > > Pat has a very valid point that folks gain weight on Atkins even with

> > low

> > > > carbs but high calories. She is right!

> > > > Harry is encouraging exercise and of course no matter what this is

> > > > excellent.

> > > > Tonight I am going for groceries and I am almost afraid to eat let

> alone

> > > > what to buy.

> > > > Have considered just plain eating anything. Though I truly have lost

> my

> > > > taste for many things loaded with carbs. I'll never go back to

> > carelessly

> > > > eating just any old thing.

> > > > I feel stuck in no man's land.

> > > > Harry mentioned if a person has a one pound steak then he has just

> about

> > > > used up all calories for the day. So

> > > > I have two pork chops in the house. Am guessing they are six ounces.

> > > > Will find out tonight. Gee!

> > > >

> > > > Rita

> > > >

February 17, 2004

also, Rita, a big glass of water before eating will make you feel full.

Re: Confused!

Harry I agree. What I had in mind was " I feel like more quantity of food. "

This may be related to taking time to eat slowly so the brain gets the

message of fullness.

Rita

> Never deny the truth of a feeling. It is real and it is felt. To deny a

> feeling is denying the obvious. Mostly all feelings originate in one's

> thoughts.

> Only when one examines the feeling in depth does one come to the origin of

> the thought. It is written on the temple at Delphi, " Know Thyself "

> It is also written, " As a man thinketh, so is he. "

> One's feelings are the most obvious of expressions, but the real core is

> inside.

> Confused!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi , Harry and Pat and all listers,

> > > > > > I am now totally confused and in a whirl.

> > > > > > mmmmm What to do?

> > > > > > First for any new members I wish to make it clear I am not yet a

> > > > diabetic

> > > > > > but need to drop weight or I've been told I will become one.

> > > > > > Atkins says no more than twenty carbs a day, but they don't

count

> > > > calories

> > > > > > just carbs.

> > > > > > you say you get your marvelous lab tonight test results

> from as

> > > > > many

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > fifteen carbs a meal.

> > > > > > Pat has a very valid point that folks gain weight on Atkins even

> with

> > > > low

> > > > > > carbs but high calories. She is right!

> > > > > > Harry is encouraging exercise and of course no matter what this

is

> > > > > > excellent.

> > > > > > Tonight I am going for groceries and I am almost afraid to eat

let

> > > alone

> > > > > > what to buy.

> > > > > > Have considered just plain eating anything. Though I truly have

> lost

> > > my

> > > > > > taste for many things loaded with carbs. I'll never go back to

> > > > carelessly

> > > > > > eating just any old thing.

> > > > > > I feel stuck in no man's land.

> > > > > > Harry mentioned if a person has a one pound steak then he has

just

> > > about

> > > > > > used up all calories for the day. So

> > > > > > I have two pork chops in the house. Am guessing they are six

> ounces.

> > > > > > Will find out tonight. Gee!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rita

> > > > > >

February 17, 2004

In my opinion if one wishes to lose weight, they should never allow

themselves to feel hungry or empty.

Confused!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi , Harry and Pat and all listers,

> > > > > > > I am now totally confused and in a whirl.

> > > > > > > mmmmm What to do?

> > > > > > > First for any new members I wish to make it clear I am not yet

a

> > > > > diabetic

> > > > > > > but need to drop weight or I've been told I will become one.

> > > > > > > Atkins says no more than twenty carbs a day, but they don't

> count

> > > > > calories

> > > > > > > just carbs.

> > > > > > > you say you get your marvelous lab tonight test results

> > from as

> > > > > > many

> > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > fifteen carbs a meal.

> > > > > > > Pat has a very valid point that folks gain weight on Atkins

even

> > with

> > > > > low

> > > > > > > carbs but high calories. She is right!

> > > > > > > Harry is encouraging exercise and of course no matter what

this

> is

> > > > > > > excellent.

> > > > > > > Tonight I am going for groceries and I am almost afraid to eat

> let

> > > > alone

> > > > > > > what to buy.

> > > > > > > Have considered just plain eating anything. Though I truly

have

> > lost

> > > > my

> > > > > > > taste for many things loaded with carbs. I'll never go back

to

> > > > > carelessly

> > > > > > > eating just any old thing.

> > > > > > > I feel stuck in no man's land.

> > > > > > > Harry mentioned if a person has a one pound steak then he has

> just

> > > > about

> > > > > > > used up all calories for the day. So

> > > > > > > I have two pork chops in the house. Am guessing they are six

> > ounces.

> > > > > > > Will find out tonight. Gee!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rita

> > > > > > >

February 18, 2004

Hi Rita,

You can substitute mashed cauliflower for mashed potatoes. I think it is

very good.

Sharon

Confused!

> >

> > Hi , Harry and Pat and all listers,

> > I am now totally confused and in a whirl.

> > mmmmm What to do?

> > First for any new members I wish to make it clear I am not yet a

diabetic

> > but need to drop weight or I've been told I will become one.

> > Atkins says no more than twenty carbs a day, but they don't count

calories

> > just carbs.

> > you say you get your marvelous lab tonight test results from as

many

> > as

> > fifteen carbs a meal.

> > Pat has a very valid point that folks gain weight on Atkins even with

low

> > carbs but high calories. She is right!

> > Harry is encouraging exercise and of course no matter what this is

> > excellent.

> > Tonight I am going for groceries and I am almost afraid to eat let alone

> > what to buy.

> > Have considered just plain eating anything. Though I truly have lost my

> > taste for many things loaded with carbs. I'll never go back to

carelessly

> > eating just any old thing.

> > I feel stuck in no man's land.

> > Harry mentioned if a person has a one pound steak then he has just about

> > used up all calories for the day. So

> > I have two pork chops in the house. Am guessing they are six ounces.

> > Will find out tonight. Gee!

> >

> > Rita

> >

February 18, 2004

Is this mainly in reference to those people who have type 2 diabetes or is

it Type 1 as well? As I'm a type 1 and basically I would be having to many

hypos on that sort of diet of 15 grams per meal. Even if I cut back on my

insulin dosages.

Re: Confused!

>

> > Hi Rita

> >

> > why not try fish, tuna, chicken (with no skin) or lean meat? Fill up

on

> > stir fry vegetables.

> >

> > I don't know much about this Aitkens diet, I've heard a lot about it but

> > don't know the fine details of it.

> >

> > To cut back on carbs is good but to cut on carbs too much I feel is too

> > great. I mean 15 grams of carbs for a meal! I wouldn't have the energy

> to

> > last the morning or even the day.

> >

> > Reading the label of a product where possible is the vital part on

> deciding

> > on what to eat or not. If you have trouble reading the labels, see if a

> > friend can help you out? Then start making up your own list of the

> > nutritional value of the food you have on a regular basis. I always go

> for

> > the low fat or low joule/diet products.

> >

> > I always get someone to tell me the value of the carbs and fat on a

> product

> > I might consider trying and if I find out either the fat content and

carbs

> > are too high I put it back.

> >

> > I have made a conservative effort to lose weight and have manage to lose

> > about 9 pounds by cutting back on my carb intake but also cut back on

the

> > fats as well. Such as only having cheese 1 day a week, taking the skin

> off

> > chicken, no margarine/butter on bread and so on. Having meatless main

> > meals.

> >

> > Here is just a break up of what I might have at each meal.

> >

> > Breakfast I always have 2 pieces of multi grain bread (which has a low

GI

> > compared to white or plain wholemeal bread) with a spread but no

> margarine

> > or

> > butter and a bowl of cereal with low fat milk.

> > Morning tea a couple of low fat dry biscuits

> > Lunch a Sandwich with plenty lettuce and maybe with a slice of chicken,

> > cheese, tuna, boiled egg and so on A piece of fruit and sometimes 2

plain

> > sweet biscuits with 6 grams of carbs in each.

> > Afternoon tea just a rice cake plain

> > Tea main source of carbs would be a serve of

> > 1/2 cup potato, 1/3 cup long grain rice (we have a couple of brands in

> > Australia which have a low GI) pasta about 1/2 cup pasta or 1 cup

> depending

> > on the type of meal having. Summer months usually plenty salads and

> winter

> > months we have one pot meals with pasta or rice. Such as Stir Fry,

Chilli

> > con Carne, Curries and so on. Fresh Fruit or low joule jelly with diet

> > yoghurt.

> > Supper is 2 plain sweet biscuits worth 6 grams carbs.

> > Most of the time I don't have anything to eat after 8 pm.

> >

> > This sort of meal plan might work for some people and maybe others. But

> it

> > seems to work the best for me.

> >

> > The main thing to remember Rita is that we are all different and what is

> > good for someone might not be good for you. Also changing your eating

> habit

> > drastically at first seems to cause more problems in the long run. Try

> > altering you diet gradually. Write out what you eat each day and be

> honest

> > with yourself and might be surprise to see how much calories you have.

> > Don't forget those few peanuts you might chuck in. Then decide what you

> can

> > cut back on.

> >

> > Also take in consideration the way you prepare a meal or the quantity

you

> > serve. I use to cook my onions with oil but now I just pan fry them and

> add

> > water if needed. Have a poach egg instead of a fried one. If you think

> you

> > feel like you wish to have a slice of bacon, grill it instead of frying.

> > All these things can help in the long run. Also try cooking with less

> salt

> > and find other substitutes that might add flavour to your meals.

> >

> > from Down under

>

February 18, 2004

I think it would mostly depend on the type of insulin one uses. It would

also depend on frequency of glucose monitoring. For instance I use two

forms of insulin: Lantus, a once per day dose of long-acting insulin and

Humalog, a short-acting insulin.

I also measure my glucose level before meals, then I count the carbs

consumed and two hours after the meal I measure the glucose level again.

This is required in order to determine the proper amount of short-acting

insulin that is required to handle the carbs consumed. It is a trial and

error activity at first until one finally figures how much insulin to use to

deal with the carbs consumed.

My monthly glucose average is around 102, which will give me an A1C reading,

when it is done, of slightly over A1C of 5.0.

I try to run a tight ship regarding my glucose levels in order to avoid

diabetic complications that happens, when one allows their glucose levels to

fluctuate up and down from high to low and low to high.

This method of glucose management in the diabetic is available to type1's

and type 2's. If you wish to have tight control, consult with your

physician to see if he/she will prescribe these medications. I taught my

physician about doing tight control by using this list serve to manage and

teach me first on how to do it.

Re: Confused!

> >

> > > Hi Rita

> > >

> > > why not try fish, tuna, chicken (with no skin) or lean meat? Fill up

> on

> > > stir fry vegetables.

> > >

> > > I don't know much about this Aitkens diet, I've heard a lot about it

but

> > > don't know the fine details of it.

> > >

> > > To cut back on carbs is good but to cut on carbs too much I feel is

too

> > > great. I mean 15 grams of carbs for a meal! I wouldn't have the

energy

> > to

> > > last the morning or even the day.

> > >

> > > Reading the label of a product where possible is the vital part on

> > deciding

> > > on what to eat or not. If you have trouble reading the labels, see if

a

> > > friend can help you out? Then start making up your own list of the

> > > nutritional value of the food you have on a regular basis. I always

go

> > for

> > > the low fat or low joule/diet products.

> > >

> > > I always get someone to tell me the value of the carbs and fat on a

> > product

> > > I might consider trying and if I find out either the fat content and

> carbs

> > > are too high I put it back.

> > >

> > > I have made a conservative effort to lose weight and have manage to

lose

> > > about 9 pounds by cutting back on my carb intake but also cut back on

> the

> > > fats as well. Such as only having cheese 1 day a week, taking the

skin

> > off

> > > chicken, no margarine/butter on bread and so on. Having meatless main

> > > meals.

> > >

> > > Here is just a break up of what I might have at each meal.

> > >

> > > Breakfast I always have 2 pieces of multi grain bread (which has a low

> GI

> > > compared to white or plain wholemeal bread) with a spread but no

> > margarine

> > > or

> > > butter and a bowl of cereal with low fat milk.

> > > Morning tea a couple of low fat dry biscuits

> > > Lunch a Sandwich with plenty lettuce and maybe with a slice of

chicken,

> > > cheese, tuna, boiled egg and so on A piece of fruit and sometimes 2

> plain

> > > sweet biscuits with 6 grams of carbs in each.

> > > Afternoon tea just a rice cake plain

> > > Tea main source of carbs would be a serve of

> > > 1/2 cup potato, 1/3 cup long grain rice (we have a couple of brands

in

> > > Australia which have a low GI) pasta about 1/2 cup pasta or 1 cup

> > depending

> > > on the type of meal having. Summer months usually plenty salads and

> > winter

> > > months we have one pot meals with pasta or rice. Such as Stir Fry,

> Chilli

> > > con Carne, Curries and so on. Fresh Fruit or low joule jelly with

diet

> > > yoghurt.

> > > Supper is 2 plain sweet biscuits worth 6 grams carbs.

> > > Most of the time I don't have anything to eat after 8 pm.

> > >

> > > This sort of meal plan might work for some people and maybe others.

But

> > it

> > > seems to work the best for me.

> > >

> > > The main thing to remember Rita is that we are all different and what

is

> > > good for someone might not be good for you. Also changing your eating

> > habit

> > > drastically at first seems to cause more problems in the long run.

Try

> > > altering you diet gradually. Write out what you eat each day and be

> > honest

> > > with yourself and might be surprise to see how much calories you have.

> > > Don't forget those few peanuts you might chuck in. Then decide what

you

> > can

> > > cut back on.

> > >

> > > Also take in consideration the way you prepare a meal or the quantity

> you

> > > serve. I use to cook my onions with oil but now I just pan fry them

and

> > add

> > > water if needed. Have a poach egg instead of a fried one. If you

think

> > you

> > > feel like you wish to have a slice of bacon, grill it instead of

frying.

> > > All these things can help in the long run. Also try cooking with less

> > salt

> > > and find other substitutes that might add flavour to your meals.

> > >

> > > from Down under

> >

February 18, 2004

take an intro computer course to windows xp then intro on internet explorer,

email, microsoft word, and you should be ok past that point to do most of

what you want to on a modern pc *smile*.

Regards,

Confused!

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi , Harry and Pat and all listers,

> > > > > I am now totally confused and in a whirl.

> > > > > mmmmm What to do?

> > > > > First for any new members I wish to make it clear I am not yet a

> > > diabetic

> > > > > but need to drop weight or I've been told I will become one.

> > > > > Atkins says no more than twenty carbs a day, but they don't count

> > > calories

> > > > > just carbs.

> > > > > you say you get your marvelous lab tonight test results

from as

> > > > many

> > > > > as

> > > > > fifteen carbs a meal.

> > > > > Pat has a very valid point that folks gain weight on Atkins even

with

> > > low

> > > > > carbs but high calories. She is right!

> > > > > Harry is encouraging exercise and of course no matter what this is

> > > > > excellent.

> > > > > Tonight I am going for groceries and I am almost afraid to eat let

> > alone

> > > > > what to buy.

> > > > > Have considered just plain eating anything. Though I truly have

lost

> > my

> > > > > taste for many things loaded with carbs. I'll never go back to

> > > carelessly

> > > > > eating just any old thing.

> > > > > I feel stuck in no man's land.

> > > > > Harry mentioned if a person has a one pound steak then he has just

> > about

> > > > > used up all calories for the day. So

> > > > > I have two pork chops in the house. Am guessing they are six

ounces.

> > > > > Will find out tonight. Gee!

> > > > >

> > > > > Rita

> > > > >

February 18, 2004

give me those snicker bars and potato chips! heh heh heh. just kidding.

Regards,

Confused!

> > >

> > > Hi , Harry and Pat and all listers,

> > > I am now totally confused and in a whirl.

> > > mmmmm What to do?

> > > First for any new members I wish to make it clear I am not yet a

> diabetic

> > > but need to drop weight or I've been told I will become one.

> > > Atkins says no more than twenty carbs a day, but they don't count

> calories

> > > just carbs.

> > > you say you get your marvelous lab tonight test results from as

> > many

> > > as

> > > fifteen carbs a meal.

> > > Pat has a very valid point that folks gain weight on Atkins even with

> low

> > > carbs but high calories. She is right!

> > > Harry is encouraging exercise and of course no matter what this is

> > > excellent.

> > > Tonight I am going for groceries and I am almost afraid to eat let

alone

> > > what to buy.

> > > Have considered just plain eating anything. Though I truly have lost

my

> > > taste for many things loaded with carbs. I'll never go back to

> carelessly

> > > eating just any old thing.

> > > I feel stuck in no man's land.

> > > Harry mentioned if a person has a one pound steak then he has just

about

> > > used up all calories for the day. So

> > > I have two pork chops in the house. Am guessing they are six ounces.

> > > Will find out tonight. Gee!

> > >

> > > Rita

> > >

February 18, 2004

and salad, meaning green lettuce, really makes you feel full from the bulk

and is low carb. Eat a big bowl of salad topped with fresh meats and your

favorite salad dressing!

Regards,

Confused!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi , Harry and Pat and all listers,

> > > > > > > I am now totally confused and in a whirl.

> > > > > > > mmmmm What to do?

> > > > > > > First for any new members I wish to make it clear I am not yet

a

> > > > > diabetic

> > > > > > > but need to drop weight or I've been told I will become one.

> > > > > > > Atkins says no more than twenty carbs a day, but they don't

> count

> > > > > calories

> > > > > > > just carbs.

> > > > > > > you say you get your marvelous lab tonight test results

> > from as

> > > > > > many

> > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > fifteen carbs a meal.

> > > > > > > Pat has a very valid point that folks gain weight on Atkins

even

> > with

> > > > > low

> > > > > > > carbs but high calories. She is right!

> > > > > > > Harry is encouraging exercise and of course no matter what

this

> is

> > > > > > > excellent.

> > > > > > > Tonight I am going for groceries and I am almost afraid to eat

> let

> > > > alone

> > > > > > > what to buy.

> > > > > > > Have considered just plain eating anything. Though I truly

have

> > lost

> > > > my

> > > > > > > taste for many things loaded with carbs. I'll never go back

to

> > > > > carelessly

> > > > > > > eating just any old thing.

> > > > > > > I feel stuck in no man's land.

> > > > > > > Harry mentioned if a person has a one pound steak then he has

> just

> > > > about

> > > > > > > used up all calories for the day. So

> > > > > > > I have two pork chops in the house. Am guessing they are six

> > ounces.

> > > > > > > Will find out tonight. Gee!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rita

> > > > > > >

February 18, 2004

good point. and you can fill up your belli with many low carb bulky

foods/veggies that are not heavy in calories. Like I suggested earlier, a

nice big salad.

Regards,

Confused!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi , Harry and Pat and all listers,

> > > > > > > > I am now totally confused and in a whirl.

> > > > > > > > mmmmm What to do?

> > > > > > > > First for any new members I wish to make it clear I am not

yet

> a

> > > > > > diabetic

> > > > > > > > but need to drop weight or I've been told I will become one.

> > > > > > > > Atkins says no more than twenty carbs a day, but they don't

> > count

> > > > > > calories

> > > > > > > > just carbs.

> > > > > > > > you say you get your marvelous lab tonight test

results

> > > from as

> > > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > fifteen carbs a meal.

> > > > > > > > Pat has a very valid point that folks gain weight on Atkins

> even

> > > with

> > > > > > low

> > > > > > > > carbs but high calories. She is right!

> > > > > > > > Harry is encouraging exercise and of course no matter what

> this

> > is

> > > > > > > > excellent.

> > > > > > > > Tonight I am going for groceries and I am almost afraid to

eat

> > let

> > > > > alone

> > > > > > > > what to buy.

> > > > > > > > Have considered just plain eating anything. Though I truly

> have

> > > lost

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > > taste for many things loaded with carbs. I'll never go back

> to

> > > > > > carelessly

> > > > > > > > eating just any old thing.

> > > > > > > > I feel stuck in no man's land.

> > > > > > > > Harry mentioned if a person has a one pound steak then he

has

> > just

> > > > > about

> > > > > > > > used up all calories for the day. So

> > > > > > > > I have two pork chops in the house. Am guessing they are

six

> > > ounces.

> > > > > > > > Will find out tonight. Gee!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rita

> > > > > > > >

February 18, 2004

yes, it is darn good! top it with some melted cheese and your good to go!

Regards,

Confused!

> > >

> > > Hi , Harry and Pat and all listers,

> > > I am now totally confused and in a whirl.

> > > mmmmm What to do?

> > > First for any new members I wish to make it clear I am not yet a

> diabetic

> > > but need to drop weight or I've been told I will become one.

> > > Atkins says no more than twenty carbs a day, but they don't count

> calories

> > > just carbs.

> > > you say you get your marvelous lab tonight test results from as

> many

> > > as

> > > fifteen carbs a meal.

> > > Pat has a very valid point that folks gain weight on Atkins even with

> low

> > > carbs but high calories. She is right!

> > > Harry is encouraging exercise and of course no matter what this is

> > > excellent.

> > > Tonight I am going for groceries and I am almost afraid to eat let

alone

> > > what to buy.

> > > Have considered just plain eating anything. Though I truly have lost

my

> > > taste for many things loaded with carbs. I'll never go back to

> carelessly

> > > eating just any old thing.

> > > I feel stuck in no man's land.

> > > Harry mentioned if a person has a one pound steak then he has just

about

> > > used up all calories for the day. So

> > > I have two pork chops in the house. Am guessing they are six ounces.

> > > Will find out tonight. Gee!

> > >

> > > Rita

> > >

February 18, 2004

! I simply cannot understand it, I always thought I had reasonable

intelligence. There must be a glitch in my brain. I am still in dos

and find computers bewildering! Sigh.

I listened to the first tape by jaws for windows and it went so fast and

turned so many corners, I said I'll stick to dos thanks.

Rita who feels so inadequit.

> take an intro computer course to windows xp then intro on internet explorer,

> email, microsoft word, and you should be ok past that point to do most of

> what you want to on a modern pc *smile*.

>

> Regards,

>

> Confused!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi , Harry and Pat and all listers,

> > > > > > I am now totally confused and in a whirl.

> > > > > > mmmmm What to do?

> > > > > > First for any new members I wish to make it clear I am not yet a

> > > > diabetic

> > > > > > but need to drop weight or I've been told I will become one.

> > > > > > Atkins says no more than twenty carbs a day, but they don't count

> > > > calories

> > > > > > just carbs.

> > > > > > you say you get your marvelous lab tonight test results

> from as

> > > > > many

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > fifteen carbs a meal.

> > > > > > Pat has a very valid point that folks gain weight on Atkins even

> with

> > > > low

> > > > > > carbs but high calories. She is right!

> > > > > > Harry is encouraging exercise and of course no matter what this is

> > > > > > excellent.

> > > > > > Tonight I am going for groceries and I am almost afraid to eat let

> > > alone

> > > > > > what to buy.

> > > > > > Have considered just plain eating anything. Though I truly have

> lost

> > > my

> > > > > > taste for many things loaded with carbs. I'll never go back to

> > > > carelessly

> > > > > > eating just any old thing.

> > > > > > I feel stuck in no man's land.

> > > > > > Harry mentioned if a person has a one pound steak then he has just

> > > about

> > > > > > used up all calories for the day. So

> > > > > > I have two pork chops in the house. Am guessing they are six

> ounces.

> > > > > > Will find out tonight. Gee!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rita

> > > > > >

February 18, 2004

Hi .

I am a type 1 diabetic for 26 years and follow 15 grams per meal. That

equates to 1.5 units of humalog to cover my breakfast, lunch, and 2 units of

humalog to cover dinner. I also take ultralente for long acting. With low

carbing, you have to check your bgs 2 hours past eating to catch any lows. I

don't run low all that much, my lows are around 63 at times but mostly, pre

meal is 80 and my 2 hour post meal test is 120 or less. By doing this, my

a1c readings are 5.3. I simply started by limiting each meal to 15 grams of

carbs and starting with the ratio of 1 unit of H per 15 grams. In about 2

weeks, I got the correct figures for each meal by watching my 2 hour post

tests. Once I got each 2 hour post test to 120 or less, I knew I got the

ratio down. Breakfast 1.5 units of H per 15 grams, lunch 1.5 units of H per

15 grams, dinner 2 units of H per 15 grams. If I want more than 15 grams at

a meal, for example, 30 grams for breakfast, then I just double up my dose

to 3 units since normally, it is 1.5 units per 15 so 3 units per 30. After

60 grams, my ratios do not work so I can not go over 60 grams per meal.

hope this helps some.

Regards,

Re: Confused!

> >

> > > Hi Rita

> > >

> > > why not try fish, tuna, chicken (with no skin) or lean meat? Fill up

> on

> > > stir fry vegetables.

> > >

> > > I don't know much about this Aitkens diet, I've heard a lot about it

but

> > > don't know the fine details of it.

> > >

> > > To cut back on carbs is good but to cut on carbs too much I feel is

too

> > > great. I mean 15 grams of carbs for a meal! I wouldn't have the

energy

> > to

> > > last the morning or even the day.

> > >

> > > Reading the label of a product where possible is the vital part on

> > deciding

> > > on what to eat or not. If you have trouble reading the labels, see if

a

> > > friend can help you out? Then start making up your own list of the

> > > nutritional value of the food you have on a regular basis. I always

go

> > for

> > > the low fat or low joule/diet products.

> > >

> > > I always get someone to tell me the value of the carbs and fat on a

> > product

> > > I might consider trying and if I find out either the fat content and

> carbs

> > > are too high I put it back.

> > >

> > > I have made a conservative effort to lose weight and have manage to

lose

> > > about 9 pounds by cutting back on my carb intake but also cut back on

> the

> > > fats as well. Such as only having cheese 1 day a week, taking the

skin

> > off

> > > chicken, no margarine/butter on bread and so on. Having meatless main

> > > meals.

> > >

> > > Here is just a break up of what I might have at each meal.

> > >

> > > Breakfast I always have 2 pieces of multi grain bread (which has a low

> GI

> > > compared to white or plain wholemeal bread) with a spread but no

> > margarine

> > > or

> > > butter and a bowl of cereal with low fat milk.

> > > Morning tea a couple of low fat dry biscuits

> > > Lunch a Sandwich with plenty lettuce and maybe with a slice of

chicken,

> > > cheese, tuna, boiled egg and so on A piece of fruit and sometimes 2

> plain

> > > sweet biscuits with 6 grams of carbs in each.

> > > Afternoon tea just a rice cake plain

> > > Tea main source of carbs would be a serve of

> > > 1/2 cup potato, 1/3 cup long grain rice (we have a couple of brands

in

> > > Australia which have a low GI) pasta about 1/2 cup pasta or 1 cup

> > depending

> > > on the type of meal having. Summer months usually plenty salads and

> > winter

> > > months we have one pot meals with pasta or rice. Such as Stir Fry,

> Chilli

> > > con Carne, Curries and so on. Fresh Fruit or low joule jelly with

diet

> > > yoghurt.

> > > Supper is 2 plain sweet biscuits worth 6 grams carbs.

> > > Most of the time I don't have anything to eat after 8 pm.

> > >

> > > This sort of meal plan might work for some people and maybe others.

But

> > it

> > > seems to work the best for me.

> > >

> > > The main thing to remember Rita is that we are all different and what

is

> > > good for someone might not be good for you. Also changing your eating

> > habit

> > > drastically at first seems to cause more problems in the long run.

Try

> > > altering you diet gradually. Write out what you eat each day and be

> > honest

> > > with yourself and might be surprise to see how much calories you have.

> > > Don't forget those few peanuts you might chuck in. Then decide what

you

> > can

> > > cut back on.

> > >

> > > Also take in consideration the way you prepare a meal or the quantity

> you

> > > serve. I use to cook my onions with oil but now I just pan fry them

and

> > add

> > > water if needed. Have a poach egg instead of a fried one. If you

think

> > you

> > > feel like you wish to have a slice of bacon, grill it instead of

frying.

> > > All these things can help in the long run. Also try cooking with less

> > salt

> > > and find other substitutes that might add flavour to your meals.

> > >

> > > from Down under

> >

February 18, 2004

While there is a learning curve to master in learning windows compared to

DOS, it would be best for the blind person to have a windows system, since

JAWS develops software today primarily geared to deal with windows programs.

In fact you can get the JFD free of charge, since it is now outmoted,

obsolete, caput. The program works in a DOS system quite well, but who are

developing DOS programs these days? The answer is practically no body.

If you have a JFW (Jaws For Windows) program, then it would be wise for you

to have a windows system. Then the tutorial for learning windows and JAWS

would be easier to learn and master. Besides you would be learning a modern

system rather than an outmoted one like DOS.

I speak from experience having tried to learn a windows system while using

jaws for DOS, and I can say without reservation it doesn't work.

After all Microsoft owns the DOS system, so even Microsoft programs in

windows these days and not DOS.

Confused!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi , Harry and Pat and all listers,

> > > > > > > I am now totally confused and in a whirl.

> > > > > > > mmmmm What to do?

> > > > > > > First for any new members I wish to make it clear I am not yet

a

> > > > > diabetic

> > > > > > > but need to drop weight or I've been told I will become one.

> > > > > > > Atkins says no more than twenty carbs a day, but they don't

count

> > > > > calories

> > > > > > > just carbs.

> > > > > > > you say you get your marvelous lab tonight test results

> > from as

> > > > > > many

> > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > fifteen carbs a meal.

> > > > > > > Pat has a very valid point that folks gain weight on Atkins

even

> > with

> > > > > low

> > > > > > > carbs but high calories. She is right!

> > > > > > > Harry is encouraging exercise and of course no matter what

this is

> > > > > > > excellent.

> > > > > > > Tonight I am going for groceries and I am almost afraid to eat

let

> > > > alone

> > > > > > > what to buy.

> > > > > > > Have considered just plain eating anything. Though I truly

have

> > lost

> > > > my

> > > > > > > taste for many things loaded with carbs. I'll never go back

to

> > > > > carelessly

> > > > > > > eating just any old thing.

> > > > > > > I feel stuck in no man's land.

> > > > > > > Harry mentioned if a person has a one pound steak then he has

just

> > > > about

> > > > > > > used up all calories for the day. So

> > > > > > > I have two pork chops in the house. Am guessing they are six

> > ounces.

> > > > > > > Will find out tonight. Gee!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rita

> > > > > > >

February 18, 2004

oh those jaws tapes are terrible for most. It is like any teacher, you have

to find the write one that talks your talk. If the teacher doesn't talk your

talk, you won't learn.

Keep looking for one that talks your talk. I don't know your finances, but

adaptive aid trainers can come on site and train you how to use the computer

and jaws and you can tape it and review it when they leave. This is how I

and many had to learn jaws and windows.

Regards,

Confused!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi , Harry and Pat and all listers,

> > > > > > > I am now totally confused and in a whirl.

> > > > > > > mmmmm What to do?

> > > > > > > First for any new members I wish to make it clear I am not yet

a

> > > > > diabetic

> > > > > > > but need to drop weight or I've been told I will become one.

> > > > > > > Atkins says no more than twenty carbs a day, but they don't

count

> > > > > calories

> > > > > > > just carbs.

> > > > > > > you say you get your marvelous lab tonight test results

> > from as

> > > > > > many

> > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > fifteen carbs a meal.

> > > > > > > Pat has a very valid point that folks gain weight on Atkins

even

> > with

> > > > > low

> > > > > > > carbs but high calories. She is right!

> > > > > > > Harry is encouraging exercise and of course no matter what

this is

> > > > > > > excellent.

> > > > > > > Tonight I am going for groceries and I am almost afraid to eat

let

> > > > alone

> > > > > > > what to buy.

> > > > > > > Have considered just plain eating anything. Though I truly

have

> > lost

> > > > my

> > > > > > > taste for many things loaded with carbs. I'll never go back

to

> > > > > carelessly

> > > > > > > eating just any old thing.

> > > > > > > I feel stuck in no man's land.

> > > > > > > Harry mentioned if a person has a one pound steak then he has

just

> > > > about

> > > > > > > used up all calories for the day. So

> > > > > > > I have two pork chops in the house. Am guessing they are six

> > ounces.

> > > > > > > Will find out tonight. Gee!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rita

> > > > > > >

February 18, 2004

Hi Sharon,

I sure would be open to that idea as I love the stuff. Thanks.

Rita

> Hi Rita,

>

> You can substitute mashed cauliflower for mashed potatoes. I think it is

> very good.

>

> Sharon

> Confused!

> > >

> > > Hi , Harry and Pat and all listers,

> > > I am now totally confused and in a whirl.

> > > mmmmm What to do?

> > > First for any new members I wish to make it clear I am not yet a

> diabetic

> > > but need to drop weight or I've been told I will become one.

> > > Atkins says no more than twenty carbs a day, but they don't count

> calories

> > > just carbs.

> > > you say you get your marvelous lab tonight test results from as

> many

> > > as

> > > fifteen carbs a meal.

> > > Pat has a very valid point that folks gain weight on Atkins even with

> low

> > > carbs but high calories. She is right!

> > > Harry is encouraging exercise and of course no matter what this is

> > > excellent.

> > > Tonight I am going for groceries and I am almost afraid to eat let alone

> > > what to buy.

> > > Have considered just plain eating anything. Though I truly have lost my

> > > taste for many things loaded with carbs. I'll never go back to

> carelessly

> > > eating just any old thing.

> > > I feel stuck in no man's land.

> > > Harry mentioned if a person has a one pound steak then he has just about

> > > used up all calories for the day. So

> > > I have two pork chops in the house. Am guessing they are six ounces.

> > > Will find out tonight. Gee!

> > >

> > > Rita

> > >

February 18, 2004

Rita,

There is no glitch in your brain. I tried to learn the windows system for

three months with utter frustration each day. I constantly failed. I

finally realized that my teacher was teaching me how to use a windows

system, while at the same time I was using a DOS system.

The two system are incompatible, and no matter how hard you try to make them

compatible, it just won't work.

When I switched to a windows system and jaws for windows program, I learned

immediately and quickly. I was able to master the word processing program

and the email program within three months by using a compatible program and

system.

Be sure you are using a compatible program and a compatible system or else

you are doomed to failure every day.

Confused!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi , Harry and Pat and all listers,

> > > > > > > > I am now totally confused and in a whirl.

> > > > > > > > mmmmm What to do?

> > > > > > > > First for any new members I wish to make it clear I am not

yet

> a

> > > > > > diabetic

> > > > > > > > but need to drop weight or I've been told I will become one.

> > > > > > > > Atkins says no more than twenty carbs a day, but they don't

> count

> > > > > > calories

> > > > > > > > just carbs.

> > > > > > > > you say you get your marvelous lab tonight test

results

> > > from as

> > > > > > > many

> > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > fifteen carbs a meal.

> > > > > > > > Pat has a very valid point that folks gain weight on Atkins

> even

> > > with

> > > > > > low

> > > > > > > > carbs but high calories. She is right!

> > > > > > > > Harry is encouraging exercise and of course no matter what

> this is

> > > > > > > > excellent.

> > > > > > > > Tonight I am going for groceries and I am almost afraid to

eat

> let

> > > > > alone

> > > > > > > > what to buy.

> > > > > > > > Have considered just plain eating anything. Though I truly

> have

> > > lost

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > > taste for many things loaded with carbs. I'll never go back

> to

> > > > > > carelessly

> > > > > > > > eating just any old thing.

> > > > > > > > I feel stuck in no man's land.

> > > > > > > > Harry mentioned if a person has a one pound steak then he

has

> just

> > > > > about

> > > > > > > > used up all calories for the day. So

> > > > > > > > I have two pork chops in the house. Am guessing they are

six

> > > ounces.

> > > > > > > > Will find out tonight. Gee!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rita

> > > > > > > >

February 18, 2004

Harry and ,

I do have the software for dos only. It would cost a lot to buy windows

software. Then too there is that terrifying word " install " .

I did have a man come to teach me right here at home using my machine and

I learned the mained thing I wanted and that is how to e-mail. I love

this.

There's a lot I do not know how to use, but then there is a question of

time. I was told there is google and I do what is called a limited

search. I tried to get a copy of the modern version of the Hippocratic

Oath. Only got a few sentences. Oh well. It that worth the hundreds of

dollars to get software, and pay for individual instructions? I am in no

way especially interested in keeping with modernity per se. If I were

working I certainly would have to keep up.

For personal use only I am pretty satisfied. Sure I wish I could do a

little more, but not worth the price. I am retired and just making it by

the skin of my teeth. You know things are just going up up up .

Medicine, rent, food.

Rita who totally admires you guys!

February 18, 2004

yup, that is why I said I don't know what your finances are like. If dos

works, so be it *smile*.

Regards,

Re: Confused!

> Harry and ,

> I do have the software for dos only. It would cost a lot to buy windows

> software. Then too there is that terrifying word " install " .

> I did have a man come to teach me right here at home using my machine and

> I learned the mained thing I wanted and that is how to e-mail. I love

> this.

> There's a lot I do not know how to use, but then there is a question of

> time. I was told there is google and I do what is called a limited

> search. I tried to get a copy of the modern version of the Hippocratic

> Oath. Only got a few sentences. Oh well. It that worth the hundreds of

> dollars to get software, and pay for individual instructions? I am in no

> way especially interested in keeping with modernity per se. If I were

> working I certainly would have to keep up.

> For personal use only I am pretty satisfied. Sure I wish I could do a

> little more, but not worth the price. I am retired and just making it by

> the skin of my teeth. You know things are just going up up up .

> Medicine, rent, food.

> Rita who totally admires you guys!

>

February 18, 2004

Believe me when I say I understand. I remember well the times I was unable

to even afford to buy a cup of coffee or a glass of tea, and I was satisfied

with just plain water.

, which was free.

I did not like poverty then, and I do not like it now. When you depend on

the state to give you what you need or desire, you may get it in due time,

but it will be at the choosing of the state and not you.

Re: Confused!

> Harry and ,

> I do have the software for dos only. It would cost a lot to buy windows

> software. Then too there is that terrifying word " install " .

> I did have a man come to teach me right here at home using my machine and

> I learned the mained thing I wanted and that is how to e-mail. I love

> this.

> There's a lot I do not know how to use, but then there is a question of

> time. I was told there is google and I do what is called a limited

> search. I tried to get a copy of the modern version of the Hippocratic

> Oath. Only got a few sentences. Oh well. It that worth the hundreds of

> dollars to get software, and pay for individual instructions? I am in no

> way especially interested in keeping with modernity per se. If I were

> working I certainly would have to keep up.

> For personal use only I am pretty satisfied. Sure I wish I could do a

> little more, but not worth the price. I am retired and just making it by

> the skin of my teeth. You know things are just going up up up .

> Medicine, rent, food.

> Rita who totally admires you guys!

>

February 19, 2004

The insulin I have is

Humalog: Morning - 8 sometimes 6 , lunch 6, tea 6.

Humalin: morning - 8 and before bed 8.

I basically do a test before each meal which helps me decide how much

insulin I need to take or cut back as I sometimes have low levels around

meal times. If my levels are elevated I cut back on my carbs instead of

increasing my insulin. I usually don't do any test after meals, but on the

odd occasion when I'm having a low level day I test or when I'm having a

high day, especially when I've had a hypo in my sleep. But they a few and

far between these days.

I suppose I should admit that sometimes I have trouble keeping a good

average level, regardless if I eat and do the same thing each day. One day

it will be fine and I have an average level of 6 (108) and then the next day

I can range from 6 to 11 (108 to 198).

I do 2 25 minute walks each day as this is another way for me to keep my

levels in a good range but when I change my routine and can't do my walks it

sure plays up with my levels.

After reading the many e-mails on this list I will probably try a few things

out to see if they make a difference when I go for my next batch of test

around June.

Re: Confused!

> > >

> > > > Hi Rita

> > > >

> > > > why not try fish, tuna, chicken (with no skin) or lean meat? Fill

up

> > on

> > > > stir fry vegetables.

> > > >

> > > > I don't know much about this Aitkens diet, I've heard a lot about it

> but

> > > > don't know the fine details of it.

> > > >

> > > > To cut back on carbs is good but to cut on carbs too much I feel is

> too

> > > > great. I mean 15 grams of carbs for a meal! I wouldn't have the

> energy

> > > to

> > > > last the morning or even the day.

> > > >

> > > > Reading the label of a product where possible is the vital part on

> > > deciding

> > > > on what to eat or not. If you have trouble reading the labels, see

if

> a

> > > > friend can help you out? Then start making up your own list of the

> > > > nutritional value of the food you have on a regular basis. I always

> go

> > > for

> > > > the low fat or low joule/diet products.

> > > >

> > > > I always get someone to tell me the value of the carbs and fat on a

> > > product

> > > > I might consider trying and if I find out either the fat content and

> > carbs

> > > > are too high I put it back.

> > > >

> > > > I have made a conservative effort to lose weight and have manage to

> lose

> > > > about 9 pounds by cutting back on my carb intake but also cut back

on

> > the

> > > > fats as well. Such as only having cheese 1 day a week, taking the

> skin

> > > off

> > > > chicken, no margarine/butter on bread and so on. Having meatless

main

> > > > meals.

> > > >

> > > > Here is just a break up of what I might have at each meal.

> > > >

> > > > Breakfast I always have 2 pieces of multi grain bread (which has a

low

> > GI

> > > > compared to white or plain wholemeal bread) with a spread but no

> > > margarine

> > > > or

> > > > butter and a bowl of cereal with low fat milk.

> > > > Morning tea a couple of low fat dry biscuits

> > > > Lunch a Sandwich with plenty lettuce and maybe with a slice of

> chicken,

> > > > cheese, tuna, boiled egg and so on A piece of fruit and sometimes 2

> > plain

> > > > sweet biscuits with 6 grams of carbs in each.

> > > > Afternoon tea just a rice cake plain

> > > > Tea main source of carbs would be a serve of

> > > > 1/2 cup potato, 1/3 cup long grain rice (we have a couple of brands

> in

> > > > Australia which have a low GI) pasta about 1/2 cup pasta or 1 cup

> > > depending

> > > > on the type of meal having. Summer months usually plenty salads and

> > > winter

> > > > months we have one pot meals with pasta or rice. Such as Stir Fry,

> > Chilli

> > > > con Carne, Curries and so on. Fresh Fruit or low joule jelly with

> diet

> > > > yoghurt.

> > > > Supper is 2 plain sweet biscuits worth 6 grams carbs.

> > > > Most of the time I don't have anything to eat after 8 pm.

> > > >

> > > > This sort of meal plan might work for some people and maybe others.

> But

> > > it

> > > > seems to work the best for me.

> > > >

> > > > The main thing to remember Rita is that we are all different and

what

> is

> > > > good for someone might not be good for you. Also changing your

eating

> > > habit

> > > > drastically at first seems to cause more problems in the long run.

> Try

> > > > altering you diet gradually. Write out what you eat each day and be

> > > honest

> > > > with yourself and might be surprise to see how much calories you

have.

> > > > Don't forget those few peanuts you might chuck in. Then decide what

> you

> > > can

> > > > cut back on.

> > > >

> > > > Also take in consideration the way you prepare a meal or the

quantity

> > you

> > > > serve. I use to cook my onions with oil but now I just pan fry them

> and

> > > add

> > > > water if needed. Have a poach egg instead of a fried one. If you

> think

> > > you

> > > > feel like you wish to have a slice of bacon, grill it instead of

> frying.

> > > > All these things can help in the long run. Also try cooking with

less

> > > salt

> > > > and find other substitutes that might add flavour to your meals.

> > > >

> > > > from Down under

> > >

February 19, 2004

,

Are the numbers reported below your glucose readings or the number of units

of Humalog you inject?

I also use Humalog, but I would never think of taking a dose of it before

bedtime, unless I had at least two or three hours to get a bedtime glucose

reading before I went to bed.

Re: Confused!

> > > >

> > > > > Hi Rita

> > > > >

> > > > > why not try fish, tuna, chicken (with no skin) or lean meat?

Fill

> up

> > > on

> > > > > stir fry vegetables.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know much about this Aitkens diet, I've heard a lot about

it

> > but

> > > > > don't know the fine details of it.

> > > > >

> > > > > To cut back on carbs is good but to cut on carbs too much I feel

is

> > too

> > > > > great. I mean 15 grams of carbs for a meal! I wouldn't have the

> > energy

> > > > to

> > > > > last the morning or even the day.

> > > > >

> > > > > Reading the label of a product where possible is the vital part on

> > > > deciding

> > > > > on what to eat or not. If you have trouble reading the labels,

see

> if

> > a

> > > > > friend can help you out? Then start making up your own list of

the

> > > > > nutritional value of the food you have on a regular basis. I

always

> > go

> > > > for

> > > > > the low fat or low joule/diet products.

> > > > >

> > > > > I always get someone to tell me the value of the carbs and fat on

a

> > > > product

> > > > > I might consider trying and if I find out either the fat content

and

> > > carbs

> > > > > are too high I put it back.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have made a conservative effort to lose weight and have manage

to

> > lose

> > > > > about 9 pounds by cutting back on my carb intake but also cut

back

> on

> > > the

> > > > > fats as well. Such as only having cheese 1 day a week, taking the

> > skin

> > > > off

> > > > > chicken, no margarine/butter on bread and so on. Having meatless

> main

> > > > > meals.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here is just a break up of what I might have at each meal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Breakfast I always have 2 pieces of multi grain bread (which has a

> low

> > > GI

> > > > > compared to white or plain wholemeal bread) with a spread but no

> > > > margarine

> > > > > or

> > > > > butter and a bowl of cereal with low fat milk.

> > > > > Morning tea a couple of low fat dry biscuits

> > > > > Lunch a Sandwich with plenty lettuce and maybe with a slice of

> > chicken,

> > > > > cheese, tuna, boiled egg and so on A piece of fruit and sometimes

2

> > > plain

> > > > > sweet biscuits with 6 grams of carbs in each.

> > > > > Afternoon tea just a rice cake plain

> > > > > Tea main source of carbs would be a serve of

> > > > > 1/2 cup potato, 1/3 cup long grain rice (we have a couple of

brands

> > in

> > > > > Australia which have a low GI) pasta about 1/2 cup pasta or 1 cup

> > > > depending

> > > > > on the type of meal having. Summer months usually plenty salads

and

> > > > winter

> > > > > months we have one pot meals with pasta or rice. Such as Stir

Fry,

> > > Chilli

> > > > > con Carne, Curries and so on. Fresh Fruit or low joule jelly with

> > diet

> > > > > yoghurt.

> > > > > Supper is 2 plain sweet biscuits worth 6 grams carbs.

> > > > > Most of the time I don't have anything to eat after 8 pm.

> > > > >

> > > > > This sort of meal plan might work for some people and maybe

others.

> > But

> > > > it

> > > > > seems to work the best for me.

> > > > >

> > > > > The main thing to remember Rita is that we are all different and

> what

> > is

> > > > > good for someone might not be good for you. Also changing your

> eating

> > > > habit

> > > > > drastically at first seems to cause more problems in the long run.

> > Try

> > > > > altering you diet gradually. Write out what you eat each day and

be

> > > > honest

> > > > > with yourself and might be surprise to see how much calories you

> have.

> > > > > Don't forget those few peanuts you might chuck in. Then decide

what

> > you

> > > > can

> > > > > cut back on.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also take in consideration the way you prepare a meal or the

> quantity

> > > you

> > > > > serve. I use to cook my onions with oil but now I just pan fry

them

> > and

> > > > add

> > > > > water if needed. Have a poach egg instead of a fried one. If you

> > think

> > > > you

> > > > > feel like you wish to have a slice of bacon, grill it instead of

> > frying.

> > > > > All these things can help in the long run. Also try cooking with

> less

> > > > salt

> > > > > and find other substitutes that might add flavour to your meals.

> > > > >

> > > > > from Down under

> > > >

February 19, 2004

The numbers next to the insulin names are the number of units I take.

I only have Humalin before going to bed which is my long acting insulin.

Sorry about the confusion.

Re: Confused!

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Rita

> > > > > >

> > > > > > why not try fish, tuna, chicken (with no skin) or lean meat?

> Fill

> > up

> > > > on

> > > > > > stir fry vegetables.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't know much about this Aitkens diet, I've heard a lot

about

> it

> > > but

> > > > > > don't know the fine details of it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To cut back on carbs is good but to cut on carbs too much I feel

> is

> > > too

> > > > > > great. I mean 15 grams of carbs for a meal! I wouldn't have

the

> > > energy

> > > > > to

> > > > > > last the morning or even the day.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Reading the label of a product where possible is the vital part

on

> > > > > deciding

> > > > > > on what to eat or not. If you have trouble reading the labels,

> see

> > if

> > > a

> > > > > > friend can help you out? Then start making up your own list of

> the

> > > > > > nutritional value of the food you have on a regular basis. I

> always

> > > go

> > > > > for

> > > > > > the low fat or low joule/diet products.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I always get someone to tell me the value of the carbs and fat

on

> a

> > > > > product

> > > > > > I might consider trying and if I find out either the fat content

> and

> > > > carbs

> > > > > > are too high I put it back.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have made a conservative effort to lose weight and have manage

> to

> > > lose

> > > > > > about 9 pounds by cutting back on my carb intake but also cut

> back

> > on

> > > > the

> > > > > > fats as well. Such as only having cheese 1 day a week, taking

the

> > > skin

> > > > > off

> > > > > > chicken, no margarine/butter on bread and so on. Having

meatless

> > main

> > > > > > meals.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here is just a break up of what I might have at each meal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Breakfast I always have 2 pieces of multi grain bread (which has

a

> > low

> > > > GI

> > > > > > compared to white or plain wholemeal bread) with a spread but

no

> > > > > margarine

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > butter and a bowl of cereal with low fat milk.

> > > > > > Morning tea a couple of low fat dry biscuits

> > > > > > Lunch a Sandwich with plenty lettuce and maybe with a slice of

> > > chicken,

> > > > > > cheese, tuna, boiled egg and so on A piece of fruit and

sometimes

> 2

> > > > plain

> > > > > > sweet biscuits with 6 grams of carbs in each.

> > > > > > Afternoon tea just a rice cake plain

> > > > > > Tea main source of carbs would be a serve of

> > > > > > 1/2 cup potato, 1/3 cup long grain rice (we have a couple of

> brands

> > > in

> > > > > > Australia which have a low GI) pasta about 1/2 cup pasta or 1

cup

> > > > > depending

> > > > > > on the type of meal having. Summer months usually plenty salads

> and

> > > > > winter

> > > > > > months we have one pot meals with pasta or rice. Such as Stir

> Fry,

> > > > Chilli

> > > > > > con Carne, Curries and so on. Fresh Fruit or low joule jelly

with

> > > diet

> > > > > > yoghurt.

> > > > > > Supper is 2 plain sweet biscuits worth 6 grams carbs.

> > > > > > Most of the time I don't have anything to eat after 8 pm.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This sort of meal plan might work for some people and maybe

> others.

> > > But

> > > > > it

> > > > > > seems to work the best for me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The main thing to remember Rita is that we are all different and

> > what

> > > is

> > > > > > good for someone might not be good for you. Also changing your

> > eating

> > > > > habit

> > > > > > drastically at first seems to cause more problems in the long

run.

> > > Try

> > > > > > altering you diet gradually. Write out what you eat each day

and

> be

> > > > > honest

> > > > > > with yourself and might be surprise to see how much calories you

> > have.

> > > > > > Don't forget those few peanuts you might chuck in. Then decide

> what

> > > you

> > > > > can

> > > > > > cut back on.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also take in consideration the way you prepare a meal or the

> > quantity

> > > > you

> > > > > > serve. I use to cook my onions with oil but now I just pan fry

> them

> > > and

> > > > > add

> > > > > > water if needed. Have a poach egg instead of a fried one. If

you

> > > think

> > > > > you

> > > > > > feel like you wish to have a slice of bacon, grill it instead of

> > > frying.

> > > > > > All these things can help in the long run. Also try cooking

with

> > less

> > > > > salt

> > > > > > and find other substitutes that might add flavour to your meals.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > from Down under

> > > > >

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