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rita, I havae been using word and JAWS since it came out-and I still am only

average. I was forced to use it because of work, so learned only what I

needed to survii e at work, but now that I retired, I am learning more from

a genius friend who can do anything with JAWS. He is very patient with me

and does ot demand I do things quickly. It's real helpful if you can find

someone like that!

Re: Confused!

! I simply cannot understand it, I always thought I had reasonable

intelligence. There must be a glitch in my brain. I am still in dos

and find computers bewildering! Sigh.

I listened to the first tape by jaws for windows and it went so fast and

turned so many corners, I said I'll stick to dos thanks.

Rita who feels so inadequit.

> take an intro computer course to windows xp then intro on internet

explorer,

> email, microsoft word, and you should be ok past that point to do most of

> what you want to on a modern pc *smile*.

>

> Regards,

>

> Confused!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi , Harry and Pat and all listers,

> > > > > > I am now totally confused and in a whirl.

> > > > > > mmmmm What to do?

> > > > > > First for any new members I wish to make it clear I am not yet a

> > > > diabetic

> > > > > > but need to drop weight or I've been told I will become one.

> > > > > > Atkins says no more than twenty carbs a day, but they don't

count

> > > > calories

> > > > > > just carbs.

> > > > > > you say you get your marvelous lab tonight test results

> from as

> > > > > many

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > fifteen carbs a meal.

> > > > > > Pat has a very valid point that folks gain weight on Atkins even

> with

> > > > low

> > > > > > carbs but high calories. She is right!

> > > > > > Harry is encouraging exercise and of course no matter what this

is

> > > > > > excellent.

> > > > > > Tonight I am going for groceries and I am almost afraid to eat

let

> > > alone

> > > > > > what to buy.

> > > > > > Have considered just plain eating anything. Though I truly have

> lost

> > > my

> > > > > > taste for many things loaded with carbs. I'll never go back to

> > > > carelessly

> > > > > > eating just any old thing.

> > > > > > I feel stuck in no man's land.

> > > > > > Harry mentioned if a person has a one pound steak then he has

just

> > > about

> > > > > > used up all calories for the day. So

> > > > > > I have two pork chops in the house. Am guessing they are six

> ounces.

> > > > > > Will find out tonight. Gee!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rita

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Hi, , I am a very long term type 1 diabetic and have been able to cut

my insulin down a whole lot since eating lower carbs. If your amount of

insulin matches the amount of carbs you eat, you do not go low very

often-only if you exercise more or eat even less than normal.

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Is this mainly in reference to those people who have type 2 diabetes or is

it Type 1 as well? As I'm a type 1 and basically I would be having to many

hypos on that sort of diet of 15 grams per meal. Even if I cut back on my

insulin dosages.

Re: Confused!

>

>

> > Hi Rita

> >

> > why not try fish, tuna, chicken (with no skin) or lean meat? Fill up

on

> > stir fry vegetables.

> >

> > I don't know much about this Aitkens diet, I've heard a lot about it but

> > don't know the fine details of it.

> >

> > To cut back on carbs is good but to cut on carbs too much I feel is too

> > great. I mean 15 grams of carbs for a meal! I wouldn't have the energy

> to

> > last the morning or even the day.

> >

> > Reading the label of a product where possible is the vital part on

> deciding

> > on what to eat or not. If you have trouble reading the labels, see if a

> > friend can help you out? Then start making up your own list of the

> > nutritional value of the food you have on a regular basis. I always go

> for

> > the low fat or low joule/diet products.

> >

> > I always get someone to tell me the value of the carbs and fat on a

> product

> > I might consider trying and if I find out either the fat content and

carbs

> > are too high I put it back.

> >

> > I have made a conservative effort to lose weight and have manage to lose

> > about 9 pounds by cutting back on my carb intake but also cut back on

the

> > fats as well. Such as only having cheese 1 day a week, taking the skin

> off

> > chicken, no margarine/butter on bread and so on. Having meatless main

> > meals.

> >

> > Here is just a break up of what I might have at each meal.

> >

> > Breakfast I always have 2 pieces of multi grain bread (which has a low

GI

> > compared to white or plain wholemeal bread) with a spread but no

> margarine

> > or

> > butter and a bowl of cereal with low fat milk.

> > Morning tea a couple of low fat dry biscuits

> > Lunch a Sandwich with plenty lettuce and maybe with a slice of chicken,

> > cheese, tuna, boiled egg and so on A piece of fruit and sometimes 2

plain

> > sweet biscuits with 6 grams of carbs in each.

> > Afternoon tea just a rice cake plain

> > Tea main source of carbs would be a serve of

> > 1/2 cup potato, 1/3 cup long grain rice (we have a couple of brands in

> > Australia which have a low GI) pasta about 1/2 cup pasta or 1 cup

> depending

> > on the type of meal having. Summer months usually plenty salads and

> winter

> > months we have one pot meals with pasta or rice. Such as Stir Fry,

Chilli

> > con Carne, Curries and so on. Fresh Fruit or low joule jelly with diet

> > yoghurt.

> > Supper is 2 plain sweet biscuits worth 6 grams carbs.

> > Most of the time I don't have anything to eat after 8 pm.

> >

> > This sort of meal plan might work for some people and maybe others. But

> it

> > seems to work the best for me.

> >

> > The main thing to remember Rita is that we are all different and what is

> > good for someone might not be good for you. Also changing your eating

> habit

> > drastically at first seems to cause more problems in the long run. Try

> > altering you diet gradually. Write out what you eat each day and be

> honest

> > with yourself and might be surprise to see how much calories you have.

> > Don't forget those few peanuts you might chuck in. Then decide what you

> can

> > cut back on.

> >

> > Also take in consideration the way you prepare a meal or the quantity

you

> > serve. I use to cook my onions with oil but now I just pan fry them and

> add

> > water if needed. Have a poach egg instead of a fried one. If you think

> you

> > feel like you wish to have a slice of bacon, grill it instead of frying.

> > All these things can help in the long run. Also try cooking with less

> salt

> > and find other substitutes that might add flavour to your meals.

> >

> > from Down under

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Good luck !

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The insulin I have is

Humalog: Morning - 8 sometimes 6 , lunch 6, tea 6.

Humalin: morning - 8 and before bed 8.

I basically do a test before each meal which helps me decide how much

insulin I need to take or cut back as I sometimes have low levels around

meal times. If my levels are elevated I cut back on my carbs instead of

increasing my insulin. I usually don't do any test after meals, but on the

odd occasion when I'm having a low level day I test or when I'm having a

high day, especially when I've had a hypo in my sleep. But they a few and

far between these days.

I suppose I should admit that sometimes I have trouble keeping a good

average level, regardless if I eat and do the same thing each day. One day

it will be fine and I have an average level of 6 (108) and then the next day

I can range from 6 to 11 (108 to 198).

I do 2 25 minute walks each day as this is another way for me to keep my

levels in a good range but when I change my routine and can't do my walks it

sure plays up with my levels.

After reading the many e-mails on this list I will probably try a few things

out to see if they make a difference when I go for my next batch of test

around June.

Re: Confused!

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hi Rita

> > > >

> > > > why not try fish, tuna, chicken (with no skin) or lean meat? Fill

up

> > on

> > > > stir fry vegetables.

> > > >

> > > > I don't know much about this Aitkens diet, I've heard a lot about it

> but

> > > > don't know the fine details of it.

> > > >

> > > > To cut back on carbs is good but to cut on carbs too much I feel is

> too

> > > > great. I mean 15 grams of carbs for a meal! I wouldn't have the

> energy

> > > to

> > > > last the morning or even the day.

> > > >

> > > > Reading the label of a product where possible is the vital part on

> > > deciding

> > > > on what to eat or not. If you have trouble reading the labels, see

if

> a

> > > > friend can help you out? Then start making up your own list of the

> > > > nutritional value of the food you have on a regular basis. I always

> go

> > > for

> > > > the low fat or low joule/diet products.

> > > >

> > > > I always get someone to tell me the value of the carbs and fat on a

> > > product

> > > > I might consider trying and if I find out either the fat content and

> > carbs

> > > > are too high I put it back.

> > > >

> > > > I have made a conservative effort to lose weight and have manage to

> lose

> > > > about 9 pounds by cutting back on my carb intake but also cut back

on

> > the

> > > > fats as well. Such as only having cheese 1 day a week, taking the

> skin

> > > off

> > > > chicken, no margarine/butter on bread and so on. Having meatless

main

> > > > meals.

> > > >

> > > > Here is just a break up of what I might have at each meal.

> > > >

> > > > Breakfast I always have 2 pieces of multi grain bread (which has a

low

> > GI

> > > > compared to white or plain wholemeal bread) with a spread but no

> > > margarine

> > > > or

> > > > butter and a bowl of cereal with low fat milk.

> > > > Morning tea a couple of low fat dry biscuits

> > > > Lunch a Sandwich with plenty lettuce and maybe with a slice of

> chicken,

> > > > cheese, tuna, boiled egg and so on A piece of fruit and sometimes 2

> > plain

> > > > sweet biscuits with 6 grams of carbs in each.

> > > > Afternoon tea just a rice cake plain

> > > > Tea main source of carbs would be a serve of

> > > > 1/2 cup potato, 1/3 cup long grain rice (we have a couple of brands

> in

> > > > Australia which have a low GI) pasta about 1/2 cup pasta or 1 cup

> > > depending

> > > > on the type of meal having. Summer months usually plenty salads and

> > > winter

> > > > months we have one pot meals with pasta or rice. Such as Stir Fry,

> > Chilli

> > > > con Carne, Curries and so on. Fresh Fruit or low joule jelly with

> diet

> > > > yoghurt.

> > > > Supper is 2 plain sweet biscuits worth 6 grams carbs.

> > > > Most of the time I don't have anything to eat after 8 pm.

> > > >

> > > > This sort of meal plan might work for some people and maybe others.

> But

> > > it

> > > > seems to work the best for me.

> > > >

> > > > The main thing to remember Rita is that we are all different and

what

> is

> > > > good for someone might not be good for you. Also changing your

eating

> > > habit

> > > > drastically at first seems to cause more problems in the long run.

> Try

> > > > altering you diet gradually. Write out what you eat each day and be

> > > honest

> > > > with yourself and might be surprise to see how much calories you

have.

> > > > Don't forget those few peanuts you might chuck in. Then decide what

> you

> > > can

> > > > cut back on.

> > > >

> > > > Also take in consideration the way you prepare a meal or the

quantity

> > you

> > > > serve. I use to cook my onions with oil but now I just pan fry them

> and

> > > add

> > > > water if needed. Have a poach egg instead of a fried one. If you

> think

> > > you

> > > > feel like you wish to have a slice of bacon, grill it instead of

> frying.

> > > > All these things can help in the long run. Also try cooking with

less

> > > salt

> > > > and find other substitutes that might add flavour to your meals.

> > > >

> > > > from Down under

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Since you are taking Humalog the fast acting and short time acting insulin,

test before meal, now count the carbs you consume and then test again two

hours after the meal. Now let us know the pre-meal glucose level, the

number of carbs consumed and theamount of Humalog injected and a two hour

post meal glucose reading. I used this method to bring my glucose levelels

within tight control, and I am not bothered with extreme lows and extreme

highs in my glucose levels once I mastered carb counting and insulin dosage.

If it sounds simple, it is because it is.

Re: Confused!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hi Rita

> > > > >

> > > > > why not try fish, tuna, chicken (with no skin) or lean meat?

Fill

> up

> > > on

> > > > > stir fry vegetables.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know much about this Aitkens diet, I've heard a lot about

it

> > but

> > > > > don't know the fine details of it.

> > > > >

> > > > > To cut back on carbs is good but to cut on carbs too much I feel

is

> > too

> > > > > great. I mean 15 grams of carbs for a meal! I wouldn't have the

> > energy

> > > > to

> > > > > last the morning or even the day.

> > > > >

> > > > > Reading the label of a product where possible is the vital part on

> > > > deciding

> > > > > on what to eat or not. If you have trouble reading the labels,

see

> if

> > a

> > > > > friend can help you out? Then start making up your own list of

the

> > > > > nutritional value of the food you have on a regular basis. I

always

> > go

> > > > for

> > > > > the low fat or low joule/diet products.

> > > > >

> > > > > I always get someone to tell me the value of the carbs and fat on

a

> > > > product

> > > > > I might consider trying and if I find out either the fat content

and

> > > carbs

> > > > > are too high I put it back.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have made a conservative effort to lose weight and have manage

to

> > lose

> > > > > about 9 pounds by cutting back on my carb intake but also cut

back

> on

> > > the

> > > > > fats as well. Such as only having cheese 1 day a week, taking the

> > skin

> > > > off

> > > > > chicken, no margarine/butter on bread and so on. Having meatless

> main

> > > > > meals.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here is just a break up of what I might have at each meal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Breakfast I always have 2 pieces of multi grain bread (which has a

> low

> > > GI

> > > > > compared to white or plain wholemeal bread) with a spread but no

> > > > margarine

> > > > > or

> > > > > butter and a bowl of cereal with low fat milk.

> > > > > Morning tea a couple of low fat dry biscuits

> > > > > Lunch a Sandwich with plenty lettuce and maybe with a slice of

> > chicken,

> > > > > cheese, tuna, boiled egg and so on A piece of fruit and sometimes

2

> > > plain

> > > > > sweet biscuits with 6 grams of carbs in each.

> > > > > Afternoon tea just a rice cake plain

> > > > > Tea main source of carbs would be a serve of

> > > > > 1/2 cup potato, 1/3 cup long grain rice (we have a couple of

brands

> > in

> > > > > Australia which have a low GI) pasta about 1/2 cup pasta or 1 cup

> > > > depending

> > > > > on the type of meal having. Summer months usually plenty salads

and

> > > > winter

> > > > > months we have one pot meals with pasta or rice. Such as Stir

Fry,

> > > Chilli

> > > > > con Carne, Curries and so on. Fresh Fruit or low joule jelly with

> > diet

> > > > > yoghurt.

> > > > > Supper is 2 plain sweet biscuits worth 6 grams carbs.

> > > > > Most of the time I don't have anything to eat after 8 pm.

> > > > >

> > > > > This sort of meal plan might work for some people and maybe

others.

> > But

> > > > it

> > > > > seems to work the best for me.

> > > > >

> > > > > The main thing to remember Rita is that we are all different and

> what

> > is

> > > > > good for someone might not be good for you. Also changing your

> eating

> > > > habit

> > > > > drastically at first seems to cause more problems in the long run.

> > Try

> > > > > altering you diet gradually. Write out what you eat each day and

be

> > > > honest

> > > > > with yourself and might be surprise to see how much calories you

> have.

> > > > > Don't forget those few peanuts you might chuck in. Then decide

what

> > you

> > > > can

> > > > > cut back on.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also take in consideration the way you prepare a meal or the

> quantity

> > > you

> > > > > serve. I use to cook my onions with oil but now I just pan fry

them

> > and

> > > > add

> > > > > water if needed. Have a poach egg instead of a fried one. If you

> > think

> > > > you

> > > > > feel like you wish to have a slice of bacon, grill it instead of

> > frying.

> > > > > All these things can help in the long run. Also try cooking with

> less

> > > > salt

> > > > > and find other substitutes that might add flavour to your meals.

> > > > >

> > > > > from Down under

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Thanks, I might keep this bit of information for future reference!

Re: Confused!

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hi Rita

> > > >

> > > > why not try fish, tuna, chicken (with no skin) or lean meat? Fill

up

> > on

> > > > stir fry vegetables.

> > > >

> > > > I don't know much about this Aitkens diet, I've heard a lot about it

> but

> > > > don't know the fine details of it.

> > > >

> > > > To cut back on carbs is good but to cut on carbs too much I feel is

> too

> > > > great. I mean 15 grams of carbs for a meal! I wouldn't have the

> energy

> > > to

> > > > last the morning or even the day.

> > > >

> > > > Reading the label of a product where possible is the vital part on

> > > deciding

> > > > on what to eat or not. If you have trouble reading the labels, see

if

> a

> > > > friend can help you out? Then start making up your own list of the

> > > > nutritional value of the food you have on a regular basis. I always

> go

> > > for

> > > > the low fat or low joule/diet products.

> > > >

> > > > I always get someone to tell me the value of the carbs and fat on a

> > > product

> > > > I might consider trying and if I find out either the fat content and

> > carbs

> > > > are too high I put it back.

> > > >

> > > > I have made a conservative effort to lose weight and have manage to

> lose

> > > > about 9 pounds by cutting back on my carb intake but also cut back

on

> > the

> > > > fats as well. Such as only having cheese 1 day a week, taking the

> skin

> > > off

> > > > chicken, no margarine/butter on bread and so on. Having meatless

main

> > > > meals.

> > > >

> > > > Here is just a break up of what I might have at each meal.

> > > >

> > > > Breakfast I always have 2 pieces of multi grain bread (which has a

low

> > GI

> > > > compared to white or plain wholemeal bread) with a spread but no

> > > margarine

> > > > or

> > > > butter and a bowl of cereal with low fat milk.

> > > > Morning tea a couple of low fat dry biscuits

> > > > Lunch a Sandwich with plenty lettuce and maybe with a slice of

> chicken,

> > > > cheese, tuna, boiled egg and so on A piece of fruit and sometimes 2

> > plain

> > > > sweet biscuits with 6 grams of carbs in each.

> > > > Afternoon tea just a rice cake plain

> > > > Tea main source of carbs would be a serve of

> > > > 1/2 cup potato, 1/3 cup long grain rice (we have a couple of brands

> in

> > > > Australia which have a low GI) pasta about 1/2 cup pasta or 1 cup

> > > depending

> > > > on the type of meal having. Summer months usually plenty salads and

> > > winter

> > > > months we have one pot meals with pasta or rice. Such as Stir Fry,

> > Chilli

> > > > con Carne, Curries and so on. Fresh Fruit or low joule jelly with

> diet

> > > > yoghurt.

> > > > Supper is 2 plain sweet biscuits worth 6 grams carbs.

> > > > Most of the time I don't have anything to eat after 8 pm.

> > > >

> > > > This sort of meal plan might work for some people and maybe others.

> But

> > > it

> > > > seems to work the best for me.

> > > >

> > > > The main thing to remember Rita is that we are all different and

what

> is

> > > > good for someone might not be good for you. Also changing your

eating

> > > habit

> > > > drastically at first seems to cause more problems in the long run.

> Try

> > > > altering you diet gradually. Write out what you eat each day and be

> > > honest

> > > > with yourself and might be surprise to see how much calories you

have.

> > > > Don't forget those few peanuts you might chuck in. Then decide what

> you

> > > can

> > > > cut back on.

> > > >

> > > > Also take in consideration the way you prepare a meal or the

quantity

> > you

> > > > serve. I use to cook my onions with oil but now I just pan fry them

> and

> > > add

> > > > water if needed. Have a poach egg instead of a fried one. If you

> think

> > > you

> > > > feel like you wish to have a slice of bacon, grill it instead of

> frying.

> > > > All these things can help in the long run. Also try cooking with

less

> > > salt

> > > > and find other substitutes that might add flavour to your meals.

> > > >

> > > > from Down under

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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yes, and the starting ratio is 1 unit of humalog per 15 grams of carbs. So

limit your meals to 15 grams or 30 grams and try it but keep each meal the

same grams to master the insulin to carb ratios. I.E if you eat 30 grams,

then eat 30 grams of carbs each meal for like 2 weeks until you figure out

that ratio. If you find out that it takes 3 units of H to cover 30 grams for

breakfast, then you know it is 1.5 units per 15 grams for breakfast. Each

meal may differ in how much humalog it takes to cover 30 grams so keep that

in mind. Breakfast might be 3 H for 30 grams, lunch 4 H per 30 grams, dinner

5 H per 30 grams, etc. Often times, breakfast/lunch are close to the same

ratios and dinner is more since activity levels slow down in the evenings.

Regards,

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> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Rita

> > > > > >

> > > > > > why not try fish, tuna, chicken (with no skin) or lean meat?

> Fill

> > up

> > > > on

> > > > > > stir fry vegetables.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't know much about this Aitkens diet, I've heard a lot

about

> it

> > > but

> > > > > > don't know the fine details of it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To cut back on carbs is good but to cut on carbs too much I feel

> is

> > > too

> > > > > > great. I mean 15 grams of carbs for a meal! I wouldn't have

the

> > > energy

> > > > > to

> > > > > > last the morning or even the day.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Reading the label of a product where possible is the vital part

on

> > > > > deciding

> > > > > > on what to eat or not. If you have trouble reading the labels,

> see

> > if

> > > a

> > > > > > friend can help you out? Then start making up your own list of

> the

> > > > > > nutritional value of the food you have on a regular basis. I

> always

> > > go

> > > > > for

> > > > > > the low fat or low joule/diet products.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I always get someone to tell me the value of the carbs and fat

on

> a

> > > > > product

> > > > > > I might consider trying and if I find out either the fat content

> and

> > > > carbs

> > > > > > are too high I put it back.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have made a conservative effort to lose weight and have manage

> to

> > > lose

> > > > > > about 9 pounds by cutting back on my carb intake but also cut

> back

> > on

> > > > the

> > > > > > fats as well. Such as only having cheese 1 day a week, taking

the

> > > skin

> > > > > off

> > > > > > chicken, no margarine/butter on bread and so on. Having

meatless

> > main

> > > > > > meals.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here is just a break up of what I might have at each meal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Breakfast I always have 2 pieces of multi grain bread (which has

a

> > low

> > > > GI

> > > > > > compared to white or plain wholemeal bread) with a spread but

no

> > > > > margarine

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > butter and a bowl of cereal with low fat milk.

> > > > > > Morning tea a couple of low fat dry biscuits

> > > > > > Lunch a Sandwich with plenty lettuce and maybe with a slice of

> > > chicken,

> > > > > > cheese, tuna, boiled egg and so on A piece of fruit and

sometimes

> 2

> > > > plain

> > > > > > sweet biscuits with 6 grams of carbs in each.

> > > > > > Afternoon tea just a rice cake plain

> > > > > > Tea main source of carbs would be a serve of

> > > > > > 1/2 cup potato, 1/3 cup long grain rice (we have a couple of

> brands

> > > in

> > > > > > Australia which have a low GI) pasta about 1/2 cup pasta or 1

cup

> > > > > depending

> > > > > > on the type of meal having. Summer months usually plenty salads

> and

> > > > > winter

> > > > > > months we have one pot meals with pasta or rice. Such as Stir

> Fry,

> > > > Chilli

> > > > > > con Carne, Curries and so on. Fresh Fruit or low joule jelly

with

> > > diet

> > > > > > yoghurt.

> > > > > > Supper is 2 plain sweet biscuits worth 6 grams carbs.

> > > > > > Most of the time I don't have anything to eat after 8 pm.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This sort of meal plan might work for some people and maybe

> others.

> > > But

> > > > > it

> > > > > > seems to work the best for me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The main thing to remember Rita is that we are all different and

> > what

> > > is

> > > > > > good for someone might not be good for you. Also changing your

> > eating

> > > > > habit

> > > > > > drastically at first seems to cause more problems in the long

run.

> > > Try

> > > > > > altering you diet gradually. Write out what you eat each day

and

> be

> > > > > honest

> > > > > > with yourself and might be surprise to see how much calories you

> > have.

> > > > > > Don't forget those few peanuts you might chuck in. Then decide

> what

> > > you

> > > > > can

> > > > > > cut back on.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also take in consideration the way you prepare a meal or the

> > quantity

> > > > you

> > > > > > serve. I use to cook my onions with oil but now I just pan fry

> them

> > > and

> > > > > add

> > > > > > water if needed. Have a poach egg instead of a fried one. If

you

> > > think

> > > > > you

> > > > > > feel like you wish to have a slice of bacon, grill it instead of

> > > frying.

> > > > > > All these things can help in the long run. Also try cooking

with

> > less

> > > > > salt

> > > > > > and find other substitutes that might add flavour to your meals.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > from Down under

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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please do. if you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Regards,

Re: Confused!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hi Rita

> > > > >

> > > > > why not try fish, tuna, chicken (with no skin) or lean meat?

Fill

> up

> > > on

> > > > > stir fry vegetables.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know much about this Aitkens diet, I've heard a lot about

it

> > but

> > > > > don't know the fine details of it.

> > > > >

> > > > > To cut back on carbs is good but to cut on carbs too much I feel

is

> > too

> > > > > great. I mean 15 grams of carbs for a meal! I wouldn't have the

> > energy

> > > > to

> > > > > last the morning or even the day.

> > > > >

> > > > > Reading the label of a product where possible is the vital part on

> > > > deciding

> > > > > on what to eat or not. If you have trouble reading the labels,

see

> if

> > a

> > > > > friend can help you out? Then start making up your own list of

the

> > > > > nutritional value of the food you have on a regular basis. I

always

> > go

> > > > for

> > > > > the low fat or low joule/diet products.

> > > > >

> > > > > I always get someone to tell me the value of the carbs and fat on

a

> > > > product

> > > > > I might consider trying and if I find out either the fat content

and

> > > carbs

> > > > > are too high I put it back.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have made a conservative effort to lose weight and have manage

to

> > lose

> > > > > about 9 pounds by cutting back on my carb intake but also cut

back

> on

> > > the

> > > > > fats as well. Such as only having cheese 1 day a week, taking the

> > skin

> > > > off

> > > > > chicken, no margarine/butter on bread and so on. Having meatless

> main

> > > > > meals.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here is just a break up of what I might have at each meal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Breakfast I always have 2 pieces of multi grain bread (which has a

> low

> > > GI

> > > > > compared to white or plain wholemeal bread) with a spread but no

> > > > margarine

> > > > > or

> > > > > butter and a bowl of cereal with low fat milk.

> > > > > Morning tea a couple of low fat dry biscuits

> > > > > Lunch a Sandwich with plenty lettuce and maybe with a slice of

> > chicken,

> > > > > cheese, tuna, boiled egg and so on A piece of fruit and sometimes

2

> > > plain

> > > > > sweet biscuits with 6 grams of carbs in each.

> > > > > Afternoon tea just a rice cake plain

> > > > > Tea main source of carbs would be a serve of

> > > > > 1/2 cup potato, 1/3 cup long grain rice (we have a couple of

brands

> > in

> > > > > Australia which have a low GI) pasta about 1/2 cup pasta or 1 cup

> > > > depending

> > > > > on the type of meal having. Summer months usually plenty salads

and

> > > > winter

> > > > > months we have one pot meals with pasta or rice. Such as Stir

Fry,

> > > Chilli

> > > > > con Carne, Curries and so on. Fresh Fruit or low joule jelly with

> > diet

> > > > > yoghurt.

> > > > > Supper is 2 plain sweet biscuits worth 6 grams carbs.

> > > > > Most of the time I don't have anything to eat after 8 pm.

> > > > >

> > > > > This sort of meal plan might work for some people and maybe

others.

> > But

> > > > it

> > > > > seems to work the best for me.

> > > > >

> > > > > The main thing to remember Rita is that we are all different and

> what

> > is

> > > > > good for someone might not be good for you. Also changing your

> eating

> > > > habit

> > > > > drastically at first seems to cause more problems in the long run.

> > Try

> > > > > altering you diet gradually. Write out what you eat each day and

be

> > > > honest

> > > > > with yourself and might be surprise to see how much calories you

> have.

> > > > > Don't forget those few peanuts you might chuck in. Then decide

what

> > you

> > > > can

> > > > > cut back on.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also take in consideration the way you prepare a meal or the

> quantity

> > > you

> > > > > serve. I use to cook my onions with oil but now I just pan fry

them

> > and

> > > > add

> > > > > water if needed. Have a poach egg instead of a fried one. If you

> > think

> > > > you

> > > > > feel like you wish to have a slice of bacon, grill it instead of

> > frying.

> > > > > All these things can help in the long run. Also try cooking with

> less

> > > > salt

> > > > > and find other substitutes that might add flavour to your meals.

> > > > >

> > > > > from Down under

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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You mentioned still having large blood sugar swings. By cutting back the

carbs in your diet and carb counting, pre meal testing and 2 hour post meal

testing, you will narrow that blood sugar up/down to a very gentle wave

effect instead of a tital wave effect. Please consider trying this for 3

weeks. limit all meals to 30 grams of carbs, do a pre meal test that should

be 5.0, and a 2 hour post meal test that should be 6.6 or less. By keeping

each meal at 30 grams of carbs, you will calculate how many units of H to

take for the 30 grams and if the dose of H, for example, is 4, then you know

it is 2 units per 15 grams for that meal. You could start each meal at 15

grams and then once you get that ratio down, up your grams to 30 and double

the dose. Alternatively, you could start at 30 grams and then once you get

your ratios per meal of 30 grams, half of the ratio is what you take per 15

grams.

They start you at 1 unit of H per 15 grams so if you start at 30 grams per

meal, then it would be 2 units of H per 30 grams. If your 2 hour post meal

test is above 6.6, then you know you up the units to 3 units of H per 30

grams. If the 2 hour post meal test is still higher than 6.6, then add

another unit so you would be at 4 units of H per 30 grams. Once your 2 hour

post meal test is 6.6 or less, you are good. If your two hour post meal test

would be 6.8, I'd say that is good and you found the ratio for that meal.

I.E don't be ridiculous. If it is 6.8 or 6.9, it is good.

Regards,

Re: Confused!

> >

> >

> > > Hi Rita

> > >

> > > why not try fish, tuna, chicken (with no skin) or lean meat? Fill up

> on

> > > stir fry vegetables.

> > >

> > > I don't know much about this Aitkens diet, I've heard a lot about it

but

> > > don't know the fine details of it.

> > >

> > > To cut back on carbs is good but to cut on carbs too much I feel is

too

> > > great. I mean 15 grams of carbs for a meal! I wouldn't have the

energy

> > to

> > > last the morning or even the day.

> > >

> > > Reading the label of a product where possible is the vital part on

> > deciding

> > > on what to eat or not. If you have trouble reading the labels, see if

a

> > > friend can help you out? Then start making up your own list of the

> > > nutritional value of the food you have on a regular basis. I always

go

> > for

> > > the low fat or low joule/diet products.

> > >

> > > I always get someone to tell me the value of the carbs and fat on a

> > product

> > > I might consider trying and if I find out either the fat content and

> carbs

> > > are too high I put it back.

> > >

> > > I have made a conservative effort to lose weight and have manage to

lose

> > > about 9 pounds by cutting back on my carb intake but also cut back on

> the

> > > fats as well. Such as only having cheese 1 day a week, taking the

skin

> > off

> > > chicken, no margarine/butter on bread and so on. Having meatless main

> > > meals.

> > >

> > > Here is just a break up of what I might have at each meal.

> > >

> > > Breakfast I always have 2 pieces of multi grain bread (which has a low

> GI

> > > compared to white or plain wholemeal bread) with a spread but no

> > margarine

> > > or

> > > butter and a bowl of cereal with low fat milk.

> > > Morning tea a couple of low fat dry biscuits

> > > Lunch a Sandwich with plenty lettuce and maybe with a slice of

chicken,

> > > cheese, tuna, boiled egg and so on A piece of fruit and sometimes 2

> plain

> > > sweet biscuits with 6 grams of carbs in each.

> > > Afternoon tea just a rice cake plain

> > > Tea main source of carbs would be a serve of

> > > 1/2 cup potato, 1/3 cup long grain rice (we have a couple of brands

in

> > > Australia which have a low GI) pasta about 1/2 cup pasta or 1 cup

> > depending

> > > on the type of meal having. Summer months usually plenty salads and

> > winter

> > > months we have one pot meals with pasta or rice. Such as Stir Fry,

> Chilli

> > > con Carne, Curries and so on. Fresh Fruit or low joule jelly with

diet

> > > yoghurt.

> > > Supper is 2 plain sweet biscuits worth 6 grams carbs.

> > > Most of the time I don't have anything to eat after 8 pm.

> > >

> > > This sort of meal plan might work for some people and maybe others.

But

> > it

> > > seems to work the best for me.

> > >

> > > The main thing to remember Rita is that we are all different and what

is

> > > good for someone might not be good for you. Also changing your eating

> > habit

> > > drastically at first seems to cause more problems in the long run.

Try

> > > altering you diet gradually. Write out what you eat each day and be

> > honest

> > > with yourself and might be surprise to see how much calories you have.

> > > Don't forget those few peanuts you might chuck in. Then decide what

you

> > can

> > > cut back on.

> > >

> > > Also take in consideration the way you prepare a meal or the quantity

> you

> > > serve. I use to cook my onions with oil but now I just pan fry them

and

> > add

> > > water if needed. Have a poach egg instead of a fried one. If you

think

> > you

> > > feel like you wish to have a slice of bacon, grill it instead of

frying.

> > > All these things can help in the long run. Also try cooking with less

> > salt

> > > and find other substitutes that might add flavour to your meals.

> > >

> > > from Down under

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I am certain you know this but if not, make certain your Humalin: morning -

8 and before bed 8. is 12 hours apart when you take them. I.E take it 8 am

in the morning take next dose 8 pm at night. Keep them 12 hours a part for

best results.

Regards,

Re: Confused!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hi Rita

> > > > >

> > > > > why not try fish, tuna, chicken (with no skin) or lean meat?

Fill

> up

> > > on

> > > > > stir fry vegetables.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know much about this Aitkens diet, I've heard a lot about

it

> > but

> > > > > don't know the fine details of it.

> > > > >

> > > > > To cut back on carbs is good but to cut on carbs too much I feel

is

> > too

> > > > > great. I mean 15 grams of carbs for a meal! I wouldn't have the

> > energy

> > > > to

> > > > > last the morning or even the day.

> > > > >

> > > > > Reading the label of a product where possible is the vital part on

> > > > deciding

> > > > > on what to eat or not. If you have trouble reading the labels,

see

> if

> > a

> > > > > friend can help you out? Then start making up your own list of

the

> > > > > nutritional value of the food you have on a regular basis. I

always

> > go

> > > > for

> > > > > the low fat or low joule/diet products.

> > > > >

> > > > > I always get someone to tell me the value of the carbs and fat on

a

> > > > product

> > > > > I might consider trying and if I find out either the fat content

and

> > > carbs

> > > > > are too high I put it back.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have made a conservative effort to lose weight and have manage

to

> > lose

> > > > > about 9 pounds by cutting back on my carb intake but also cut

back

> on

> > > the

> > > > > fats as well. Such as only having cheese 1 day a week, taking the

> > skin

> > > > off

> > > > > chicken, no margarine/butter on bread and so on. Having meatless

> main

> > > > > meals.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here is just a break up of what I might have at each meal.

> > > > >

> > > > > Breakfast I always have 2 pieces of multi grain bread (which has a

> low

> > > GI

> > > > > compared to white or plain wholemeal bread) with a spread but no

> > > > margarine

> > > > > or

> > > > > butter and a bowl of cereal with low fat milk.

> > > > > Morning tea a couple of low fat dry biscuits

> > > > > Lunch a Sandwich with plenty lettuce and maybe with a slice of

> > chicken,

> > > > > cheese, tuna, boiled egg and so on A piece of fruit and sometimes

2

> > > plain

> > > > > sweet biscuits with 6 grams of carbs in each.

> > > > > Afternoon tea just a rice cake plain

> > > > > Tea main source of carbs would be a serve of

> > > > > 1/2 cup potato, 1/3 cup long grain rice (we have a couple of

brands

> > in

> > > > > Australia which have a low GI) pasta about 1/2 cup pasta or 1 cup

> > > > depending

> > > > > on the type of meal having. Summer months usually plenty salads

and

> > > > winter

> > > > > months we have one pot meals with pasta or rice. Such as Stir

Fry,

> > > Chilli

> > > > > con Carne, Curries and so on. Fresh Fruit or low joule jelly with

> > diet

> > > > > yoghurt.

> > > > > Supper is 2 plain sweet biscuits worth 6 grams carbs.

> > > > > Most of the time I don't have anything to eat after 8 pm.

> > > > >

> > > > > This sort of meal plan might work for some people and maybe

others.

> > But

> > > > it

> > > > > seems to work the best for me.

> > > > >

> > > > > The main thing to remember Rita is that we are all different and

> what

> > is

> > > > > good for someone might not be good for you. Also changing your

> eating

> > > > habit

> > > > > drastically at first seems to cause more problems in the long run.

> > Try

> > > > > altering you diet gradually. Write out what you eat each day and

be

> > > > honest

> > > > > with yourself and might be surprise to see how much calories you

> have.

> > > > > Don't forget those few peanuts you might chuck in. Then decide

what

> > you

> > > > can

> > > > > cut back on.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also take in consideration the way you prepare a meal or the

> quantity

> > > you

> > > > > serve. I use to cook my onions with oil but now I just pan fry

them

> > and

> > > > add

> > > > > water if needed. Have a poach egg instead of a fried one. If you

> > think

> > > > you

> > > > > feel like you wish to have a slice of bacon, grill it instead of

> > frying.

> > > > > All these things can help in the long run. Also try cooking with

> less

> > > > salt

> > > > > and find other substitutes that might add flavour to your meals.

> > > > >

> > > > > from Down under

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Thanks for the advice I didn't know that! I might have had diabetes for 17

years but it is still an on going lesson all the time. Learning new things,

tricks and keeping up to date with new developments.

I Basically take the morning dose around 6:30 am to 7 am and the night one

around 9:30 pm to 10 pm.

Re: Confused!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Rita

> > > > > >

> > > > > > why not try fish, tuna, chicken (with no skin) or lean meat?

> Fill

> > up

> > > > on

> > > > > > stir fry vegetables.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't know much about this Aitkens diet, I've heard a lot

about

> it

> > > but

> > > > > > don't know the fine details of it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To cut back on carbs is good but to cut on carbs too much I feel

> is

> > > too

> > > > > > great. I mean 15 grams of carbs for a meal! I wouldn't have

the

> > > energy

> > > > > to

> > > > > > last the morning or even the day.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Reading the label of a product where possible is the vital part

on

> > > > > deciding

> > > > > > on what to eat or not. If you have trouble reading the labels,

> see

> > if

> > > a

> > > > > > friend can help you out? Then start making up your own list of

> the

> > > > > > nutritional value of the food you have on a regular basis. I

> always

> > > go

> > > > > for

> > > > > > the low fat or low joule/diet products.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I always get someone to tell me the value of the carbs and fat

on

> a

> > > > > product

> > > > > > I might consider trying and if I find out either the fat content

> and

> > > > carbs

> > > > > > are too high I put it back.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have made a conservative effort to lose weight and have manage

> to

> > > lose

> > > > > > about 9 pounds by cutting back on my carb intake but also cut

> back

> > on

> > > > the

> > > > > > fats as well. Such as only having cheese 1 day a week, taking

the

> > > skin

> > > > > off

> > > > > > chicken, no margarine/butter on bread and so on. Having

meatless

> > main

> > > > > > meals.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here is just a break up of what I might have at each meal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Breakfast I always have 2 pieces of multi grain bread (which has

a

> > low

> > > > GI

> > > > > > compared to white or plain wholemeal bread) with a spread but

no

> > > > > margarine

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > butter and a bowl of cereal with low fat milk.

> > > > > > Morning tea a couple of low fat dry biscuits

> > > > > > Lunch a Sandwich with plenty lettuce and maybe with a slice of

> > > chicken,

> > > > > > cheese, tuna, boiled egg and so on A piece of fruit and

sometimes

> 2

> > > > plain

> > > > > > sweet biscuits with 6 grams of carbs in each.

> > > > > > Afternoon tea just a rice cake plain

> > > > > > Tea main source of carbs would be a serve of

> > > > > > 1/2 cup potato, 1/3 cup long grain rice (we have a couple of

> brands

> > > in

> > > > > > Australia which have a low GI) pasta about 1/2 cup pasta or 1

cup

> > > > > depending

> > > > > > on the type of meal having. Summer months usually plenty salads

> and

> > > > > winter

> > > > > > months we have one pot meals with pasta or rice. Such as Stir

> Fry,

> > > > Chilli

> > > > > > con Carne, Curries and so on. Fresh Fruit or low joule jelly

with

> > > diet

> > > > > > yoghurt.

> > > > > > Supper is 2 plain sweet biscuits worth 6 grams carbs.

> > > > > > Most of the time I don't have anything to eat after 8 pm.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This sort of meal plan might work for some people and maybe

> others.

> > > But

> > > > > it

> > > > > > seems to work the best for me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The main thing to remember Rita is that we are all different and

> > what

> > > is

> > > > > > good for someone might not be good for you. Also changing your

> > eating

> > > > > habit

> > > > > > drastically at first seems to cause more problems in the long

run.

> > > Try

> > > > > > altering you diet gradually. Write out what you eat each day

and

> be

> > > > > honest

> > > > > > with yourself and might be surprise to see how much calories you

> > have.

> > > > > > Don't forget those few peanuts you might chuck in. Then decide

> what

> > > you

> > > > > can

> > > > > > cut back on.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also take in consideration the way you prepare a meal or the

> > quantity

> > > > you

> > > > > > serve. I use to cook my onions with oil but now I just pan fry

> them

> > > and

> > > > > add

> > > > > > water if needed. Have a poach egg instead of a fried one. If

you

> > > think

> > > > > you

> > > > > > feel like you wish to have a slice of bacon, grill it instead of

> > > frying.

> > > > > > All these things can help in the long run. Also try cooking

with

> > less

> > > > > salt

> > > > > > and find other substitutes that might add flavour to your meals.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > from Down under

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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me too . I just learned that one 6 months ago and now my morning sugars

pre meal are 5.0 and the used to be 10.0 or higher.

Regards,

Re: Confused!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Rita

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > why not try fish, tuna, chicken (with no skin) or lean meat?

> > Fill

> > > up

> > > > > on

> > > > > > > stir fry vegetables.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I don't know much about this Aitkens diet, I've heard a lot

> about

> > it

> > > > but

> > > > > > > don't know the fine details of it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To cut back on carbs is good but to cut on carbs too much I

feel

> > is

> > > > too

> > > > > > > great. I mean 15 grams of carbs for a meal! I wouldn't have

> the

> > > > energy

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > last the morning or even the day.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Reading the label of a product where possible is the vital

part

> on

> > > > > > deciding

> > > > > > > on what to eat or not. If you have trouble reading the

labels,

> > see

> > > if

> > > > a

> > > > > > > friend can help you out? Then start making up your own list

of

> > the

> > > > > > > nutritional value of the food you have on a regular basis. I

> > always

> > > > go

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > the low fat or low joule/diet products.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I always get someone to tell me the value of the carbs and fat

> on

> > a

> > > > > > product

> > > > > > > I might consider trying and if I find out either the fat

content

> > and

> > > > > carbs

> > > > > > > are too high I put it back.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have made a conservative effort to lose weight and have

manage

> > to

> > > > lose

> > > > > > > about 9 pounds by cutting back on my carb intake but also cut

> > back

> > > on

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > fats as well. Such as only having cheese 1 day a week, taking

> the

> > > > skin

> > > > > > off

> > > > > > > chicken, no margarine/butter on bread and so on. Having

> meatless

> > > main

> > > > > > > meals.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here is just a break up of what I might have at each meal.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Breakfast I always have 2 pieces of multi grain bread (which

has

> a

> > > low

> > > > > GI

> > > > > > > compared to white or plain wholemeal bread) with a spread but

> no

> > > > > > margarine

> > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > butter and a bowl of cereal with low fat milk.

> > > > > > > Morning tea a couple of low fat dry biscuits

> > > > > > > Lunch a Sandwich with plenty lettuce and maybe with a slice of

> > > > chicken,

> > > > > > > cheese, tuna, boiled egg and so on A piece of fruit and

> sometimes

> > 2

> > > > > plain

> > > > > > > sweet biscuits with 6 grams of carbs in each.

> > > > > > > Afternoon tea just a rice cake plain

> > > > > > > Tea main source of carbs would be a serve of

> > > > > > > 1/2 cup potato, 1/3 cup long grain rice (we have a couple of

> > brands

> > > > in

> > > > > > > Australia which have a low GI) pasta about 1/2 cup pasta or 1

> cup

> > > > > > depending

> > > > > > > on the type of meal having. Summer months usually plenty

salads

> > and

> > > > > > winter

> > > > > > > months we have one pot meals with pasta or rice. Such as Stir

> > Fry,

> > > > > Chilli

> > > > > > > con Carne, Curries and so on. Fresh Fruit or low joule jelly

> with

> > > > diet

> > > > > > > yoghurt.

> > > > > > > Supper is 2 plain sweet biscuits worth 6 grams carbs.

> > > > > > > Most of the time I don't have anything to eat after 8 pm.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This sort of meal plan might work for some people and maybe

> > others.

> > > > But

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > seems to work the best for me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The main thing to remember Rita is that we are all different

and

> > > what

> > > > is

> > > > > > > good for someone might not be good for you. Also changing

your

> > > eating

> > > > > > habit

> > > > > > > drastically at first seems to cause more problems in the long

> run.

> > > > Try

> > > > > > > altering you diet gradually. Write out what you eat each day

> and

> > be

> > > > > > honest

> > > > > > > with yourself and might be surprise to see how much calories

you

> > > have.

> > > > > > > Don't forget those few peanuts you might chuck in. Then

decide

> > what

> > > > you

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > cut back on.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also take in consideration the way you prepare a meal or the

> > > quantity

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > serve. I use to cook my onions with oil but now I just pan

fry

> > them

> > > > and

> > > > > > add

> > > > > > > water if needed. Have a poach egg instead of a fried one. If

> you

> > > > think

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > feel like you wish to have a slice of bacon, grill it instead

of

> > > > frying.

> > > > > > > All these things can help in the long run. Also try cooking

> with

> > > less

> > > > > > salt

> > > > > > > and find other substitutes that might add flavour to your

meals.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > from Down under

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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