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> By the way, the next time Pat asks to practice driving with me, I am

> going to say " I lost your trust by your action this past Monday

> night. I cannot trust you with my car. " .

That much good idea. Anyone with impulsive violence should not use a

car.

> Any wisdom???

He does things that are wrong, yes. But if at all like me, will

become wronger the more police and MH are involved. More force, felt

trapped, did anything to escape, got more trapped, bad. Worse bad

than I hope anyone can know, worse than anything I ever did.

I and my parents would have benefited from me being in a different

household, but not in the MH system, not in the law system either.

Don't know how well that applies.

Can't even begin to describe the memories your post brought up, from

the opposite end. Language circuits overriden somewhat to deal with

emotions.

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Jim wrote:

>...I am quietly investigating my options without

>letting my wife know about it until the " shit actually hits the fan "

>from outside forces. I am doing it quietly so I do not have to argue

>with & be talked-out-of-it by my wife....

Don't stay " behind her back " too long, or else she will feel

like you are sneaking and she will have an excuse not to

trust you.

>My wife says I do poor job of reading body language, especially that

>of teenagers.

So why isn't she the one telling the kids what to do?

Jane (always glad not to be a parent)

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Jim

Boy can I identify with you.

My son, now 22, went through a similar cycle. I also have a son, aged 13.

The older has aspergers, the younger is a typical as in neurotypical teen

w/o any dx. although he insists he feels he's on the spectrum and he does

display trace traits, but who knows/

How we got through violent periods w/o police intervention is beyond me,

but causing wedges between married couples is so wrong, life is too short

for that. I am the autistic one not my husband. He is disabled and cannot

be the role model he once was since he becamse paralyzed. He often says,

Call police.

But I hesitate.

Like your wife.

I have had bruises from my younger son. We've had skirmishes. Nothing

like punching, but over exactly what you describe, and I think because as

aspies we come across as meek, sorry for the word, but we know we are

not, but we may be perceived that way- so they push us more-...

We need to show them we aren't.

But I abhorr violent showdowns, I'm guessing you do too, and the kids

know it, they test us, our limits.

We need to push back. I've waited until the kid was at school and

actually hidden the tv, carried it away and hidden it completely. Then

remained calm. Completely calm. By hiding something meaningful to my son,

like his precious pokemon/yugi-oh cards, he can throw a fit, but he wont

get them back until he promises to actually talk and make real changes.

If he doesnt follow through, there is medication.

My son isnt on any. Your kids have ADD? hmmm I sat for a kid with that.

Its a real concern. Have they tried an antidepressant?

Ritalin is sort of like coke for kids.

Maybe you can talk to Pat when your son's around, right in front of your

son. Becoming your son's friend's friend, really goes a long way. They

can influence your son to treat you better. Befriend Pat even if you

can't stand him. I have befriended my son's friends and they actually say

to my son now, " Hey if your mother says take out the trash, just do it

and get it over with, " or " Come on, I wouldn't talk to my mother like

that. "

" Horse around with Pat, " Your own son might think, I wonder what's up

with that.

It may be a slow process, but teens are whacko. It passes but everything

is life and death to them so monumental.

Kim

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Many thanks for everyone's insight.

I think there are several possible options that we can consider

without involving police, etc.. I got the brainstorm last night (after

reading your responses) that this situation had elements similar to

one that had occurred a year ago. This is something that I should have

had my wife directly confront my son because she does better with the

NT body language. Next time, I need to have her deal with it, even if

she is tired, etc. and doesn't want to do it. Wisdom says that I don't

have to enter into a situation that is bound to " bomb " , if there is a

reasonable other option to handle it.

Thanks, " stimmy " Jim

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