Re: Mercury link with autism

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> > > Wow, this info makes it even more important to work carefully

> > > around the fish I eat, as larger fish carry more mercury. ...

> > >... Pick small fish, when you can! -Zer (who is a firm believer

> >that we ARE what we eat -- and who still eats tuna, but not as

> >often as I used to! Gotta go with the latest health info!)

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<<<Lana

I actually met a woman my age the other day who did not have her

child up to date when it was time to attend school (on vaccinations).

I was shocked. This scared me a great deal.

Although I'm sensitive to your situation, I believe sensitivities to

vaccines are rare and the result of not vaccinating, as apparently

many parents are choosing to do out of panic, (oh no might catch

autism!) is downright alarming).

> K

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K, with all due respect, i'm not sure you know what you are talking

about. What is your qualification to declare that " vaccine injuries

are rare " ? They are rather rarely recognized and reported as such-

all that rise in allergies, juvenile asthma/diabetes/rheumoarthritis,

SIDS, AD(H)D, neurological disorders, MS, autoimmunities,

gastrointestinal disorders, childhood cancers. Why do you think they

tried so hard to include into Homeland Security Bill a " backdoor "

provision exempting Eli Lilly from any and all liability for

thimerosal injuries?

I do not understand why it " scared you a great deal " to hear that

someone's child has not been overvaccinated (these days' mandatory

vaccination schedule is in fact dictated by pharmaceutical interests).

My child and I grew up in another country and have never received

most of the vaccines currently mandated for US schoolchildren; guess

what, she and I even caught some of those " deadly " diseases - and are

now left with natural lifetime immunity. I'm a very physically

healthy adult, and my girl was a very healthy teen...until, that is,

we complied with " mandatory " vaccination.

I was shocked to find out how much damage vaccines do. It scared me a

great deal to see my formerly perfectly healthy child screaming in

pain and being unable to walk 100 yards without sitting down on the

ground to rest - just couple months after she won 3th, 4th and 7th at

the US Open Championship in synchronized swimming (June 2000). That's

right, she used to compete at national level...two years later, i had

to get her a medical excuse from school PE - joint pain won't let her

run. Her athletic career and athletic scholarship hopes are history

now, so is her perfect health and perfect " peachy face " . That also

scared me a great deal, as well as seeing her body further wrecked

by " standard treatments " - steroids and immunosuppressants, as well

as thinking about her future.

I hope i made it clear now that i am not a receptive audience

for " i'm-terrified-to-hear-your-children-are-not-immunized-as-

scheduled " scaremongering. And an additional grudge i hold

against " autism community of parents and professionals " is that they

in fact discredited the cause of mercury poisoning issue by obsessive

equating " autism = vaccine injury; vaccine injury = autism " . The

damage wrecked by mercury poisoning and overvaccination is much

broader than autism spectrum :-((

I'd better stop at this and honor jypsy's wish to keep this

site " mercury-free " . K, if you would like more information on this

subject, feel free to email me.

-Lana

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Some years ago I asked a dentist if I should be concerned about

the fillings I've had in my mouth for decades now. She said it

was not much mercury in them, but I wonder. Anyhow, as they

get old and crack or fall to bits, we've been replacing them with a

less toxic substance. At least I *HOPE* whatever she's using is

less toxic. We never really know what glop is being foisted off on

us until decades of coverup and lots of profit has been made on

us and then... stories start to leak out. Eeek! Are my fillings now

leaking into my bloodstream? Oh, what else can happen! -Zer

> welcome to my fillings, tainted by mercury

> kim

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Sorry again, jypsy :-( Have to answer

No. They made specific provision that Eli Lilly immunity be

retroactive and covers ALL cases of vaccine injury, INCLUDING

injuries already caused (or possibly caused in the future) by

regular, mandated childhood vaccines. It was supposed to stop vaccine

injury lawsuits currently in progress.

Besides, the provision was slipped into the text of the Bill in a

stealth fashion, so many senators afterwards admitted being totally

unaware of what they voted for. Furthermore, no one wanted to

admit " authorship " of that addition, which was overturned shortly

afterwards.

<<<No one in Washington wants to admit helping Lilly

http://www.indystar.com/print/articles/1/005029-3471-009.html

No one in Washington wants to admit helping Lilly

Author of rider that shields drugmaker from vaccine lawsuits remains

unknown.

By Sheryl Gay Stolberg

The New York Times

December 01, 2002

WASHINGTON -- Lobbyists for Eli Lilly, the Indianapolis pharmaceutical

giant, did not have much luck when they made the rounds on Capitol

Hill earlier this year, seeking protection from lawsuits over a

preservative in vaccines. Sen. Bill Frist, R-Tenn., tucked a

provision into a bill that went nowhere.

When lawmakers rebuffed a request to slip language into domestic

security legislation, a Lilly spokesman said, the company gave up.

Now, in a Washington whodunit worthy of Agatha Christie, the

provision has been resurrected and become law, as part of the

domestic security legislation signed last week by President Bush. Yet

in a city where politicians have perfected the art of claiming credit

for deeds large and small, not a single member of Congress -- or the

Bush administration -- will admit to being the author of the Lilly

rider.

" It's turning into one of Washington's most interesting parlor

games, " said Dave Lemmon, spokesman for Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-

Mich., who has promised to introduce legislation to repeal the

provision. " There's a lot of guessing, a lot of speculation as to who

did this. "

The provision forces lawsuits over the preservative, developed by

Lilly and called thimerosal, into a special " vaccine court. " It might

result in the dismissal of thousands of cases filed by parents who

contend that mercury in thimerosal has poisoned their children,

causing autism and other neurological ailments. Among them are ph

and Theresa Counter of Plano, Texas, devoted Republicans whose party

allegiance has run smack into family ties.

The Counters' 6-year-old son, ph , was normal and

healthy until he was 2, they say. Then he took an unexplained

downward slide. Today, the boy struggles with words. He cannot zip

his pants, snap buttons or tie his shoes. His parents say tests

eventually showed that he had mercury poisoning, which they attribute

to vaccines. They sued last year.

" I know that our legislative system can be very, very messy at

times, " said ph Counter, a political consultant, who with his

wife has spent many thousands of dollars on medical care and therapy

for their son. " But for them to attempt this, in the dead of night?

It disgusts me. This morning, I am ashamed to be a Republican. "

With lawmakers now scattered across the country, Washington is rife

with speculation about who is responsible for aiding Lilly, a major

Republican donor. During the 2002 election cycle, the company gave

more money to political candidates -- $1.6 million -- than any other

pharmaceutical company, with 79 percent of it going to Republicans,

according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonprofit research

group that monitors campaign finances.

Critics of the provision, mainly Democrats and trial lawyers, are

quick to point out that the White House has close ties to Lilly:

.. The elder Bush sat on Lilly's board in the late 1970s.

.. The White House budget director, Mitch s, is a former Lilly

executive.

.. The company's chairman and chief executive, Sidney Taurel, was

appointed in June by President Bush to serve on a presidential

council that will advise Bush on domestic security.

The White House, however, has said that it did not ask Congress for

the provision. Rob , a spokesman for Lilly, said the company's

lobbyists " made absolutely no contact with Mitch or anyone in his

office about this, " and that Taurel " did not at any time ask " for any

favors.

" It's a mystery to us how it got in there, " said of the

provision.>>>>