Rick about Hips and Chiro's

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Rick you said your chiro helped with your lower back and hip pain.

Remind me again do you also have SB? I have always been told that

with my sb which is right at my tailbone that I should not have a

chiro touch me in that area. Maybe this is something I could discus

with the ortho when I go for my first visit in June. If this is

something that could help with this god awfull back ache I would be

forever grateful to you for informing me of this. I think Im still

afraid because the patch on my sb is huge according to the nsg that

Im afraid of springing another csf leak even though it has been a

year since my surgery. He about had a heart attack when I told him I

fell this winter on my stairs not once but twice. Do you know if it

is possible to get another leak this late after the surgery. I didnt

mention that the pt gave me a 6 inch wide elastic band to wear

around my hips and this does seem to help keep my pain down to Id

say a 7 from a ten. This constant backache started after my surgery

last year and for the most part it would come and go but seems to be

staying constant for the last couple months when I felt a pop in my

left hip although the imediate pain went away after about a week

this constant ache has stayed. My nsg says If im doing something

that hurts just dont do it. Duh but bending over to get a pan from

the oven didnt seem like a big deal. Or sitting or standing for that

matter. Thanks for your help Chris

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At 03:23 PM 4/29/2004 +0000, wrote:

>Rick you said your chiro helped with your lower back and hip pain.

>Remind me again do you also have SB? I have always been told that

>with my sb which is right at my tailbone that I should not have a

>chiro touch me in that area.

No, I do not have SB. Previous discussions on this list (few years ago),

have indicated that Chiro should not mess with that area. My Chiro is also

" Certified in Chiropractic Spinal Trauma " which certainly what SB is. I

will ask him. Here is his website: http://www.pain411.com/ His email

address is on the contact button, so I will just cc this message to him,

see what he says. I see Dr Lonquist, <mailto:>drl<mailto:>@pain411.com. Dr

Dan, if you are not comfortable with saying anything, we understand, that

is ok

>Maybe this is something I could discus with the ortho when I go for my

>first visit in June. If this is something that could help with this god

>awfull back ache I would be forever grateful to you for informing me of this.

I would think that if you are structurally sound, it would be ok, but I am

not a doctor AND be sure that any Chiro knows of your condition!

>I think Im still afraid because the patch on my sb is huge according to

>the nsg that Im afraid of springing another csf leak even though it has

>been a year since my surgery. He about had a heart attack when I told him

>I fell this winter on my stairs not once but twice. Do you know if it is

>possible to get another leak this late after the surgery.

I do not know, anything is possible. My CSF leak took about 6 weeks to heal

plus I have a tube sticking into my dura for the Baclofen pump. It was

implanted a year after detethering surgery.

>I didnt mention that the pt gave me a 6 inch wide elastic band to wear

>around my hips and this does seem to help keep my pain down to Id say a 7

>from a ten. This constant backache started after my surgery last year and

>for the most part it would come and go but seems to be staying constant

>for the last couple months when I felt a pop in my left hip although the

>imediate pain went away after about a week this constant ache has stayed.

>My nsg says If im doing something

>that hurts just dont do it. Duh but bending over to get a pan from the

>oven didnt seem like a big deal. Or sitting or standing for that matter.

>Thanks for your help Chris

All I can say " It worked for me " . Maybe Dr Lonquist can explain what is

going on, I give him permission to tell what went on with me. Since he can

not reply to the list w/out being a member, I will forward anything he has

to say.

Good Luck,

Rick

rickr@...

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Here is Dr Dan Lonquist's reply:

At 11:36 AM 4/30/2004 -0700, drl@... wrote:

>Hi Rick, I'm asuming that SB= Spina Bifida. There are different catagories

>of Spina Bifida, one is SB occulta and one is Vera. Spina Bifida Occulta

>itself is not a contraindication to chiropractic manipulation as long as

>the rest of the vertebral body and facet joints are intact. Spina Bifida

>Vera or Spina Bifida Manifesta may have no protection of the spinal canal

>and may allow protrusion of the meninges and/or spinal cord. This would

>have to be evaluated on an individual basis to determine what kind of

>therapy or manipulation can be done.

>

>Hope this helps, Dr. Dan

At 11:36 PM 4/29/2004 -0600, RickR wrote:

>At 03:23 PM 4/29/2004 +0000, wrote:

> >Rick you said your chiro helped with your lower back and hip pain.

> >Remind me again do you also have SB? I have always been told that

> >with my sb which is right at my tailbone that I should not have a

> >chiro touch me in that area.

>

>No, I do not have SB. Previous discussions on this list (few years ago),

>have indicated that Chiro should not mess with that area. My Chiro is also

> " Certified in Chiropractic Spinal Trauma " which certainly what SB is. I

>will ask him. Here is his website: http://www.pain411.com/ His email

>address is on the contact button, so I will just cc this message to him,

>see what he says. I see Dr Lonquist, <mailto:>drl<mailto:>@pain411.com. Dr

>Dan, if you are not comfortable with saying anything, we understand, that

>is ok

>

> >Maybe this is something I could discus with the ortho when I go for my

> >first visit in June. If this is something that could help with this god

> >awfull back ache I would be forever grateful to you for informing me of

> this.

>

>I would think that if you are structurally sound, it would be ok, but I am

>not a doctor AND be sure that any Chiro knows of your condition!

>

> >I think Im still afraid because the patch on my sb is huge according to

> >the nsg that Im afraid of springing another csf leak even though it has

> >been a year since my surgery. He about had a heart attack when I told him

> >I fell this winter on my stairs not once but twice. Do you know if it is

> >possible to get another leak this late after the surgery.

>

>I do not know, anything is possible. My CSF leak took about 6 weeks to heal

>plus I have a tube sticking into my dura for the Baclofen pump. It was

>implanted a year after detethering surgery.

>

> >I didnt mention that the pt gave me a 6 inch wide elastic band to wear

> >around my hips and this does seem to help keep my pain down to Id say a 7

> >from a ten. This constant backache started after my surgery last year and

> >for the most part it would come and go but seems to be staying constant

> >for the last couple months when I felt a pop in my left hip although the

> >imediate pain went away after about a week this constant ache has stayed.

> >My nsg says If im doing something

> >that hurts just dont do it. Duh but bending over to get a pan from the

> >oven didnt seem like a big deal. Or sitting or standing for that matter.

> >Thanks for your help Chris

>

>All I can say " It worked for me " . Maybe Dr Lonquist can explain what is

>going on, I give him permission to tell what went on with me. Since he can

>not reply to the list w/out being a member, I will forward anything he has

>to say.

>

>Good Luck,

>Rick

>

>rickr@...

>

>

>

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Hi

At 06:29 PM 5/1/2004 -0400, chris holcomb wrote:

>Rick thanks for asking for me I guess I should have been more specific. I

>have sb occulta. Would having the laminectomy make a difference because I

>guess that would definitely mean that my spinal column down where my sb is

>located would not be intact because the do remove part of your spine.

I do not know, excellent question for your doctor since he knows of your

circumstances. For me, I had 9 laminectomies, from T8 to L4. The lamina was

NOT put back. Structurally, I am very strong, the laminectomies do not

compromise my spinal column.

> Im sorry I don't know all the medical terms for my SB. I did have a

> fairly large lipoma which was completely removed this time but I had had

> three previous surgeries where I was only partially detethered. The way

> it was explained to me as a child was that my tail bone was split but I

> don't know what the medical term for that would be. What I do know is

> since the laminectomy in march 2003 my lower back constantly crack and

> crunches when I twist or turn at the waiste. Which makes my lower back

> feel very unstable. My pt is working on trying to strengthen that lower

> part of my back plus my abdomen although he says it doesn't seem that

> weak. Maybe this could help you give him more info. I am having some

> relief today but who knows how long that will last and it seems that it

> just doesn't take much to set it off. Thanks again Chris

I have good & bad days too, seems to follow the weather. Today is sunny &

70 degrees and I feel great. Who knows what it will be like tomorrow

Are you on any of the SB lists? I know that there are several and many

members of this list are also members of various SB lists. Maybe someone

will post a list of 'lists'. I think Brande has something about SB on her

web site and she is also a member of the Spinal Cord Injury list that I

tried unsuccessfully to subscribe to. I will gladly post a list of lists on

our website if someone would send me the info. I am out of school for the

summer next Thursday - SO EVERYONE ElSE - send me the web page updates and

I will get to it.

Good luck hope you find answers,

Rick

> Re: Rick about Hips and Chiro's

>

>

> Here is Dr Dan Lonquist's reply:

>

> At 11:36 AM 4/30/2004 -0700, drl@... wrote:

> >Hi Rick, I'm asuming that SB= Spina Bifida. There are different

> catagories

> >of Spina Bifida, one is SB occulta and one is Vera. Spina Bifida Occulta

> >itself is not a contraindication to chiropractic manipulation as long as

> >the rest of the vertebral body and facet joints are intact. Spina Bifida

> >Vera or Spina Bifida Manifesta may have no protection of the spinal canal

> >and may allow protrusion of the meninges and/or spinal cord. This would

> >have to be evaluated on an individual basis to determine what kind of

> >therapy or manipulation can be done.

> >

> >Hope this helps, Dr. Dan

>

> At 11:36 PM 4/29/2004 -0600, RickR wrote:

> >At 03:23 PM 4/29/2004 +0000, wrote:

> > >Rick you said your chiro helped with your lower back and hip pain.

> > >Remind me again do you also have SB? I have always been told that

> > >with my sb which is right at my tailbone that I should not have a

> > >chiro touch me in that area.

> >

> >No, I do not have SB. Previous discussions on this list (few years ago),

> >have indicated that Chiro should not mess with that area. My Chiro is also

> > " Certified in Chiropractic Spinal Trauma " which certainly what SB is. I

> >will ask him. Here is his website:

> http://www.pain411.com/<http://www.pain411.com/> His email

> >address is on the contact button, so I will just cc this message to him,

> >see what he says. I see Dr Lonquist, <mailto:>drl<mailto:>@pain411.com. Dr

> >Dan, if you are not comfortable with saying anything, we understand, that

> >is ok

> >

> > >Maybe this is something I could discus with the ortho when I go for my

> > >first visit in June. If this is something that could help with this god

> > >awfull back ache I would be forever grateful to you for informing me of

> > this.

> >

> >I would think that if you are structurally sound, it would be ok, but I am

> >not a doctor AND be sure that any Chiro knows of your condition!

> >

> > >I think Im still afraid because the patch on my sb is huge according to

> > >the nsg that Im afraid of springing another csf leak even though it has

> > >been a year since my surgery. He about had a heart attack when I

> told him

> > >I fell this winter on my stairs not once but twice. Do you know if it is

> > >possible to get another leak this late after the surgery.

> >

> >I do not know, anything is possible. My CSF leak took about 6 weeks to

> heal

> >plus I have a tube sticking into my dura for the Baclofen pump. It was

> >implanted a year after detethering surgery.

> >

> > >I didnt mention that the pt gave me a 6 inch wide elastic band to wear

> > >around my hips and this does seem to help keep my pain down to Id

> say a 7

> > >from a ten. This constant backache started after my surgery last

> year and

> > >for the most part it would come and go but seems to be staying constant

> > >for the last couple months when I felt a pop in my left hip although the

> > >imediate pain went away after about a week this constant ache has

> stayed.

> > >My nsg says If im doing something

> > >that hurts just dont do it. Duh but bending over to get a pan from the

> > >oven didnt seem like a big deal. Or sitting or standing for that matter.

> > >Thanks for your help Chris

> >

> >All I can say " It worked for me " . Maybe Dr Lonquist can explain what is

> >going on, I give him permission to tell what went on with me. Since he can

> >not reply to the list w/out being a member, I will forward anything he has

> >to say.

> >

> >Good Luck,

> >Rick

> >

> >rickr@...

> >

> >

> >