Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 > > Subject: Re: A funny book > > > > Has anyone ever read " The War Between the Pitiful Teachers and the > > Splendid Kids " by Stanley Kiesel? What did you think of it? > I haven't read it, but I've read the sequel. Would that be " The War Between the Wonderful Teachers and the Idiotic, Unmotivated, Bratty Kids " ? Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Would that be " The War Between the Wonderful Teachers and the Idiotic, Unmotivated, Bratty Kids " ? > > Doug No, it wouldn't. It's the teachers who were mostly unmotivated anyway, and turned the vast majority of the kids into carbon copy " young people " who were unbelievably conformist and robotic. Sarcasm is a waste of time when you haven't read the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Doug wrote: > Would that be " The War Between the Wonderful >Teachers and the Idiotic, Unmotivated, Bratty Kids " ? and conuly responded: >Sarcasm is a waste of time when you haven't read the book. A waste of time for those who have read the book, perhaps. For me (who'd never heard of the book), Doug's response was funny (and therefore not a waste of my time). Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 > > Would that be " The War Between the Wonderful > Teachers and the Idiotic, Unmotivated, Bratty Kids " ? > > > > Doug > > No, it wouldn't. It's the teachers who were mostly unmotivated > anyway, and turned the vast majority of the kids into carbon > copy " young people " who were unbelievably conformist and robotic. I should have added " spoiled " to my description of the kids. Being a college teacher who gets them right after they finish their public school, and the son of a 7th grade teacher who's told me horror stories for the last three decades, I think that the problems with the majority of kids in schools (excluding those with honest disabilities, such as ASD) are that their parents spoil them into expecting to get everything without having to work at it, that society (entertainment industry, etc.) teaches them to expect instant gratification and that they should _enjoy_ everything every waking moment of the day, and that the lower grades teach them to have high self-esteem instead of teaching them language and math (with the result that we'll become a nation of people who feel really good about themselves but who don't know how to sit down and do an honest day's work). > Sarcasm is a waste of time when you haven't read the book. Actually, it was cynicism, not sarcasm; and I've heard more than enough to be cynical when someone says that the teachers are most of the problem. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 Doug O'Neal wrote: >>Sarcasm is a waste of time when you haven't read the book. > > > Actually, it was cynicism, not sarcasm; and I've heard more than enough > to be cynical when someone says that the teachers are most of the > problem. And perhaps you should read the book first. It was written BY a teacher, poking fun at the way a lot of teachers would be if they went to extremes. It also slams anti-ecology businesspeople and the foibles of school administrators. How about this: Don't judge it until you read it. OK? Griff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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