RE: Re: OT: H. pylori ()

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Thanks, . I started using 676 yesterday, and I've ordered Mastic. How long did you have to coil for this, and how frequently--daily, more than once a day? And did you confine the coiling to the abdomen, or did you do a full-body treatment? I don't know whether this bacteria is completely localized, or if it's in the bloodstream, so I'm not sure how to approach this.

My doctor is the only person in land who does the Heidelberg test. He says we'll use it if I'm still having problems after the H. pylori is eradicated. I've already done the HCl challenge. I got up to 4 tablets per meal before I had problems, so 3/meal is my amount. But it hasn't helped with the digestive issues--now I guess I know why: H. pylori, which I'd been assured by both the GI doctor and my primary that I didn't have, because their tests were, of course, 100% accurate.

Peggy

From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ] On Behalf Of musicladySent: Friday, March 11, 2011 12:29 AMTo: Lyme_and_Rife Subject: Re: OT: H. pylori

If you have a coil machine use the frequency 676. This eradicated it for me combined with Mastic Gum. Some people swear by Manuka Honey for Hpylori. It is very expensive and has some anti-bacterial properties. You are probably very low in stomach acid too. I would see if you can find a practitioner to do the Heidelburg Capsule test on you. www.phcapsule.org The other option is to do the HCL challenge test. Take one tablet with a meal if no acid reflux occurs try two the next meal, keep ramping up until you get acid reflux and back down one tablet. This will be the amount you need to take with meals. Most people with Lyme have low or as in my case no stomach acid. Lack of stomach acid makes us particularly vulnerable to foodborn parasites, and bacteria since the acidic stomach is what normally kills them.

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Hey Jim, ,I'm taking cream of tartar (2 caps) 2x a day to fight candida.Where on the ph scale is COT? Does it contribute to betteer acidity in the stomach?Be well,LénaHi Peggy,Please keep inmind, h.pylori is a bacteria and the main cause of it taking holdin you is low stomach acid.. I've been saying for some time, we need to increasestomach acid, doing so kills bacteria and Candida right in the stomach and prevents them from going further into the gut.You should rid this ulcer, but if you don't get your stomach acid higher, youmay end up with it again... We have two things that cause low stomachacid, Lyme and age... Taking HCl tablets after meals and apple cidervinegar (1 - 2 Tbsp) 1/2 hr before meals in 3 - 4 ounces of water (useraw honey to help flavor if necessary), does help increase stomachacid. If you increase stomach acid, if you are still taking MMS and when you startusing Manuka honey, anyone of these should kill h,pylori, so more thanone is even better.The probiotics is suggesting is also important, good bacteria are strongerthan weak bacteria... But it is the stomach acid going forward that will prevent this from happening again and also killing off other pathogens in the stomachand thus keeping them from going deeper into the gut and causing more issues there.I too have low stomach acid, mine was actually discovered at Mayo.. They NEVERoffered a remedy for this, their only concern was why my gastrin levels were 900,normal is 200 and the concern is small cancerous gastrin tumors that are almost impossibleto rid... BUT, it is common for someone to have higher gastrin levels if they havelow stomach acid and these tumors typically don't form because of this.. A Zollinger Ellison study is done to determine if this is somethingto worry about or not.. My results showed I have nothing to worry about. Take care,Jim>> Hi ,> > I already do all those things--have been taking enzymes, HCl, and good> probiotics for years. I don't think I've heard of the ones you named,> though, the ones with chromotrypsin, so I'll look into those. I take 3> different probiotics, and I take them morning and night, plus three 8-ounce> glasses of kombucha. The same Metametrix test that showed the H. pylori> also showed good levels of healthy bacteria. My diet is mostly vegetables> and fruits, so very high in fiber. > > I've had my thyroid checked and spent a good part of last year dealing with> trying to take thyroid medication. I still have bottles of both Westhroid> and liothyronine, tons of the stuff, actually. Can't take them--my b.p.> skyrocketed, and I had horrible insomnia, had to have a full cardiac workup> because of all the symptoms. Finally figured out the meds were pooling in> my blood because cortisol is needed to usher thyroid into the cells, and> mine was low. But supplementing with hydrocortisone didn't work for me--it> brought back Lyme which had been dormant for several years. So it was a> catch-22 situation, I guess. > > I'm coiling now for H. pylori, and hoping that has some effect. I've> ordered some Manuka honey, gotten some lactoferrin, and some prebiotics as> well. Maybe things will turn around eventually. I'm living in a state of> almost constant jitters, so something has the upper hand. This jitter> problem seems to have resumed once I started coiling for babesia a couple of> weeks ago. I was up till 2:00 a.m. this morning, couldn't stop twitching.> Little over one more week remains till spring, and it hardly seems like it> to me, as I've spent the entire winter housebound. Last time I saw "normal"> was the week before Christmas.> > Peggy> > _____ > > From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ]> On Behalf Of musiclady> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 4:23 PM> To: Lyme_and_Rife > Subject: Re: OT: H. pylori ()> > > > > Hi Peggy,> > Outside of adding enough fiber to your diet, are you also taking digestive> Enzymes with meals in the AM upon rising and in the PM before bed? I do 4 in> the AM 4 in the PM and one with each meal. Take HCL before meals and the> enzymes are best taken between meals because as I understand it the HCL> kills the enzymes. I use enzymes that have a lot of chymotrypsin by American> Biologics called Infzyme. These are the enzymes that many of the Cancer> clinics recommend. Also you should be doing a good probiotic twice a day> morning and night and then of course treat any parasites, candida infections> and Hpylori. Also have your thyroid checked? An underactive thyroid will> effect your digestion. I have been on thyroid for years and suddenly with> Lyme it was no longer working. It turned out I need to take two different> thyroid meds one is called Liothyronine and the other is Westhroid, because> I apparently don't convert T4 to T3, it's called ' Thyroid Syndrome.> My new regimen brought my 94 degree temp back up to normal. Since correcting> digestion I no longer have any multiple chemical sensitivity nor food> allergies. Hang in there you will get better, it takes determination and> thinking outside of the box.> > >