Re: Jypsy! You old so and so, glad to see ya.

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At 07:24 AM 2/12/2004 +0000, you wrote:

>Hey!

>

>You sure " sound " good. I hope you are feeling well.

thanx. I guess I must sound a lot more " together " and " coherent " than last

time I wrote you (off list) and will apologize now to you for what must

have been some choice language in there - I think that just illustrates my

point that *off list* and in the right *circumstances* I don't " sound " like

I do on lists.

>I'm one of those who react strongly to the use of fowl language, the " f " word

>always bugs me, and sort of feels like a stab into my brain when I hear

>it. I

>hear it alot on campus. I never used it myself, although I used to use other

> " milder " expletives, I have really worked at deleting them from my vocabulary.

sorry again.... yup..it *was* a 3 pepper letter I sent you (apologies to

the other listmate who got that one if your brain got stabbed too!!)

>I don't think I am excessively prudish and I don't think I have ever

>requested

>anyone on a list to " clean up " their language,for my benefit or otherwise,

>but if

>a person was in the habit of using it in their posts, I would probably not

>open

>their post at all, and just skip it.

You are not alone and this is a point I was trying to make. I would never

ask anyone (except my kids) to censor their language and even then the

issue is not black & white. I was, in my usual awkward way, trying to sort

of say what Kim was:

" But if you have socail difficulties and you present yourself publicly as

you do onlist (I don't presume you do, you haven't said so) then its

possible (if in fact you do) that you may scare folks off. "

I was trying to say - But if you have social difficulties and you present

yourself as you do onlist then its possible (if in fact you do) that you

may *offend people* and/or *not be heard*. That would be sad because you

have the tools to edit. It's not about " representing " anything unless you

are representing the wish to offend (once you know you are offending which

was my point - to make folks aware that it is generally found to be offensive)

I don't want to be knowingly offended (not to say that profanity online, on

lists or IRL offends me). I want to be accommodated where need be. I want

to be respected. I want (demand?) the same for & Ben. Why should I not

offer the same in return?

>There is great power in profanity, no doubt, but one can find great power in

>other language, too.

in losing it you find out just how much

>I hope your family is well and that Spring will come soon to your

>world. (If you

>prefer Spring to Winter, that is) We had a touch of Spring this

>afternoon, here.

>

>Camille

looks more Christmassy here than Christmas did. There will be fewer trees

to tap this year but lots of wood to burn in turning the sap to

syrup....... if/when spring does get here. Our local (Nova Scotia)

Groundhog, Shubenacadie Sam, bucked the North American trend when he didn't

see his shadow so there is hope.....

thanx Camille

-jypsy

>

> > >I could never understand what the " fear " of swear words is all about.

> > >

> > >They are just words, a way to get out emotion, and I like them.

> >

> > <snip>

> >

> >

> > >I especially like the " F " word when said by Englishmen. I love

> > >English accents, and the " F " word sounds sexy in Brit.

> >

> > <snip>

> >

> >

> > >I'm intense- that's the way I am. If I really want to stress myself

> > >out I can try being a " good girl " for a while and see how long it

> > >will take before I want to be dead.

> > >

> > >The repression of being a " good girl " is pretty bad, energy

> > >draining, etc. That's not a life at all.

> >

> > <snip>

> >

> > > In fact, depending on how it's

> > >done it's endearing to me.

> > >

> > >Jeanette

> >

> > For what it's worth....

> > my humble opinion...

> > thanx for raising this because I have often thought of commenting....

> >

> > My mouth is at least as colourful as yours as are some of my emails but

> > *very few* list/group emails are scattered with profanity. For whatever

> > reason it offends a lot of people so I just accept that and if I must, I

> > edit emails going to lists or groups so I don't offend folks. When I do

> > curse here you will know just how pissed off I am.

> >

> > I try hard not to curse in front of my mom and other people I know may be

> > offended by it in real life.

> > This is not " The repression of being a " good girl " " - or at least I never

> > thought it was..... I thought it was basic respect for another person or

> > group of people. I really appreciate when folks make accommodations for

>my

> > issues, even when they don't understand them, in the same way I'm sure my

> > mom appreciates the fact that I tame my tongue when I'm around her.

> >

> > Sure we can all see the warning before we open the email and we all have

> > delete keys but if you want to be listened to and heard - here's a life

> > lesson from my experience: many people are offended by profanity and

>don't

> > want to hear or read it. (I don't know why, probably any number of

> reasons)

> > Because you don't know who all is on this list it is probably safe to

> > assume (netiquette?) that there are a number of people here like that and

> > so to curse a great deal would mean you would offend a number of people

>a

> > great deal. We don't all " like them " , find them " sexy " or " endearing " (I

> > don't). It's easier to edit an email than your tongue.

> >

> > -jypsy

> > (yeah...alive...)

> >

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[Guest guest]

Camille wrote:

>looks more Christmassy here than Christmas did. There will be fewer trees

>to tap this year but lots of wood to burn in turning the sap to

>syrup....... if/when spring does get here. Our local (Nova Scotia)

>Groundhog, Shubenacadie Sam, bucked the North American trend when he didn't

>see his shadow so there is hope.....

Glad to have you back, Jypsy. The camellia bush in my

driveway is blooming, and there are crocus popping up

all along my walk to work. This morning, the radio said

the humidity is 40%. That is very dry for Seattle. Once

I was in the southwest U.S. and heard that the humidity

was 15%, I was shocked. After three decades in Seattle,

I had forgotten that it was possible for humidity to

go belong 60%. The norm here is between 80% and 100%,

I think. We've had three sunny days. The rain is due

back by tomorrow afternoon. I'll think of you and

remind myself to be glad it's not snow.

Jane

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I had forgotten about that 3 pepper letter, see, no harm done.

I knew that you were upset, couldn't miss that point! :-)

mmmm Maple syrup sounds wonderful, must smell pretty good when they are

making it....although a sugar beet sugar factory stinks pretty bad.

Camille

>

> sorry again.... yup..it *was* a 3 pepper letter I sent you (apologies to

> the other listmate who got that one if your brain got stabbed too!!)

>

> in losing it you find out just how much

>

>

> >I hope your family is well and that Spring will come soon to your

> >world. (If you

> >prefer Spring to Winter, that is) We had a touch of Spring this

> >afternoon, here.

> >

> >Camille

>

> looks more Christmassy here than Christmas did. There will be fewer trees

> to tap this year but lots of wood to burn in turning the sap to

> syrup....... if/when spring does get here. Our local (Nova Scotia)

> Groundhog, Shubenacadie Sam, bucked the North American trend when he

didn't

> see his shadow so there is hope.....

>

> thanx Camille

>

> -jypsy

[Guest guest]

Camille wrote:

>mmmm Maple syrup sounds wonderful, must smell pretty good when they are

>making it....

>

It does! We made it at home for several winters when I was a kid

back in Connecticut.

During 4th grade the teacher talked about it a bunch and some of us

did it as a class project, though I kept it up long after that because I

got really into it. The place I grew up had sugar maples growing all

over. I collected the sap every day and mom would boil it down.

I love maple syrup.

Ride the Music

AndyTiedye

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At 11:17 PM 2/13/2004 -0800, you wrote:

>Camille wrote:

>

> >mmmm Maple syrup sounds wonderful, must smell pretty good when they are

> >making it....

> >

>It does! We made it at home for several winters when I was a kid

>back in Connecticut.

>

>During 4th grade the teacher talked about it a bunch and some of us

>did it as a class project, though I kept it up long after that because I

>got really into it. The place I grew up had sugar maples growing all

>over. I collected the sap every day and mom would boil it down.

>I love maple syrup.

>

>Ride the Music

>

>AndyTiedye

If you boil down any quantity in the house you end up peeling your

wallpaper and making a sticky mess of your kitchen as the slightly sticky

steam rolls off and coats the ceilings, walls etc etc. (It takes 40 gallons

of sap to make 1 gallon of syrup) Back when we lived in the cabin... we

built the log room *around* a big stone and brick fireplace and used this

room sometimes as a " livingroom " but for a while as our bedroom. We could

boil off sap in the fireplace because all the steam went up the flue..... I

have very fond memories of hanging out around the fireplace making syrup

for days on end. The trees there were tiny compared to the ones we have

here (and lost last fall), big enough to hold 1 tap, some trees here took 3.

-jypsy

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