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Lynne, that was wonderful advice you just gave. I agree. These kids

are all unique in their damage and should be treated individually.

And the doctors stress that at the DAN conferences. When you go to a

'DAN' doctor and you are not satisfied, don't judge 'DAN' by one

doctor. Find another, and if not then, then another. Yes, it is

frustrating, but if you ask, I'll bet most parents on this list can

say they have been through no less than three doctors on this journey,

and usually triple that number before finding the right doctor for

their child. I hope this will change, as more and more doctors get

educated about the true aspects of healing autistic children, that is

still a long way off.

For us, we went through four docs that were suposed to be 'great',

using biomedical interventions. That does not count the initial list

of mainstream docs we went through before learning what actually

caused autism and heading down the biomedical road.

If you are not satisfied with your child's doctor, don't waste any

more precious time with him. Find another. There are good ones out

there and you can't stop looking until you find one that you are

confident in.

-- In csb-autism-rx , Lynne Arnold wrote:

>

> > I have went to a DAN physician since September of 2005 for my son.

>

> Here's the problem with DAN!: the designation can mean everything or

nothing

> or anything in between. It just takes one conference for a physician

to call

> himself/herself a DAN! doctor.

>

> Perhaps you could benefit by seeing a more qualified DAN! doctor or if

> viruses are your child's only issue and you're comfortable with SSRIs,

> Goldberg might the MD for your son.

>

> Who were you seeing?

>

> > He doesn't think we should try chelation as my son probably didn't

> > have enough exposure to thimerisol (his words).

>

> IMO, this is a narrow view. There are lots of metals out there in the

> environment--so it's not just thimerosal in vaccines or just mercury.

>

> I am definitely a chelation fan. It's the best thing we've done. My

son made

> THREE YEARS of speech development AFTER his 6th birthday using

TD-DMPS. The

> difference was huge and immediate. I'm not saying that chelation is

> appropriate for every child, just our experience.

>

> > As far as other DAN's having anti virals standard protocol that is

> > definitely not the case. I spoke to Dr Donnelly of 4OC Kids and he

> > is not aware of DAN physicians doing this. I spoke to Dr

> > Majors and she is not a fan of anti virals either.

>

> I certainly wouldn't consider Donnelly to be an expert or even well

informed

> on DAN!, plus 4OC Kids isn't even generally supportive of

biomedical. And

> Majors is a neuropsych, not a MD. How involved has she

been with

> DAN! and for how long?

>

> I'm glad anti-virals aren't " standard protocol " for DAN! Nothing

should be.

> All of our children are so different and deserve individual

treatment plans.

>

> > Stan Kurtz has a

> > limited list of DAN physicians doing anti virals.

>

> I don't think anyone has a comprehensive list of every MD who calls

> themselves a DAN! doctor and/or uses anti-virals.

>

> Wasn't Stan's son a patient of Goldberg's too?

>

> During the summer of 2002, I began investigating anti-virals (I

thought it

> might be good for my son). I still have Binstock's post to

the NIDS

> list 7/24/02 referring to doctors other than Goldberg using

acyclovir. Dr.

> McCandless had already been using anti-virals when she published her

book in

> 2002.

>

> But anyway, yes, Goldberg has one good thing in his arsenal,

anti-virals,

> which is effective for some kids. He thinks all autism is viral.

>

> I think what really turned me off to Goldberg was being on the NIDS

list. It

> was really shocking hearing from parents what he had to say about other

> physicians and his refusal to treat any child who had chelated.

>

> I think it's also worth noting that Goldberg hasn't been very

successful in

> getting other physicians to adopt his protocols or get his center built

> despite a lot of vigorous PR and badgering parents for donations.

>

> > I would say anti

> > virals are not mainstream across the DAN community at this time.

>

> If DAN! doctors are not using anti-virals as much, it might be

interesting

> to find out why. I suspect with many, like Dr. McCandless, it's likely

> because the majority of their patients don't need anti-virals.

>

> It could also be that some DAN! doctors feel that there are other more

> effect treatments for viral issues than anti-viral meds.

>

> > Like I said if something isn't working I move on. I am not going to

> > stay with him for years on end if no progress is made. I think it

> > better to go to him now without doing chelation yet as he would

> > rather his patients not had done chelation. If I find in say six

> > months time I don't see gains I appreciate, time to find a doctor

> > who will A. TEST FOR METALS and B. do chelation.

>

> Six months is a long time for a 3 year old. My advice: consider finding

> another DAN! doctor who takes a full-spectrum approach (including

> anti-virals) so that your child will have the advantage of complete

testing.

>

> > I also want to do

> > some " gene testing. " Is Amy Yasko the place to go for that?

>

> That's my understanding. We've never done genetic testing.

>

> Lynne

>

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