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I take Mircette as my HRT. I remember the time I ran out of Mircette,

because it was the weekend, and how much trouble I had with sweating,

and hot flashes. Medicap Pharmacy wanted to substitute a generic

version of HRT for the Mircette. I was on the generic for a month. I

had nothing but trouble from the generic stuff, break through

bleeding like there was no tomorrow, and MIGRAINES every day. I got

the NPN to say the Mircette was medically necessary. I'm back on the

Mircette. I orginally went on Mircette because of the menstrual

migraines I expereinced.

I gave my friend the Black Cohosh Tea I had bought to try. I

can't try it while on HRT. She isn't on HRT, so she can see if it

works for her. I thought about growing Black Cohosh in my medicinal

herb garden. We have had some nice rain in the Virginia Highlands. My

radishes seedlings are up. My strawberry plants have blossums. My

brocholli plants look good.

I have a new screen top on my " cat-nip lock box. " Earlier, the

neighboorhood cats had destroyed the top, and obliterated my catnip

plant. Catnip, ladies, is a powerful sleep inducer. While it makes

cats " stoned " it gets you to sleep. I have a herb and lettuce box,

all fenced in. The cats had messed up some of my lettuce along with

my Catnip.-Imagine what choice cuss words I had for those cats!

What you said about your knots in your upper back reminded me of the

time last Oct when Gretched at AMC PT asked me if my neck hurt. I

said no, but she pushed on some triggers in my upper back and neck.

As it turned out, I had some sorness in my neck muscles. The pain got

started big time. Then it " spread. " Just could not stand it. The pain

was so bad, that I retreated to bed. Horrible to get it started like

that. I wish I had remembered the Arnica.

Dillion

-- In Fibromyalgia_Support_Group , " Savonna "

<isavonna@y...> wrote:

> Trying to recoup from a concert. I should have known better, but it

> was Metallica and Godsmack. I'm a 80's junkie. Its been two days

and

> still aching all over. Hard to believe a concert would do that.

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I take Mircette as my HRT. I remember the time I ran out of Mircette,

because it was the weekend, and how much trouble I had with sweating,

and hot flashes. Medicap Pharmacy wanted to substitute a generic

version of HRT for the Mircette. I was on the generic for a month. I

had nothing but trouble from the generic stuff, break through

bleeding like there was no tomorrow, and MIGRAINES every day. I got

the NPN to say the Mircette was medically necessary. I'm back on the

Mircette. I orginally went on Mircette because of the menstrual

migraines I expereinced.

I gave my friend the Black Cohosh Tea I had bought to try. I

can't try it while on HRT. She isn't on HRT, so she can see if it

works for her. I thought about growing Black Cohosh in my medicinal

herb garden. We have had some nice rain in the Virginia Highlands. My

radishes seedlings are up. My strawberry plants have blossums. My

brocholli plants look good.

I have a new screen top on my " cat-nip lock box. " Earlier, the

neighboorhood cats had destroyed the top, and obliterated my catnip

plant. Catnip, ladies, is a powerful sleep inducer. While it makes

cats " stoned " it gets you to sleep. I have a herb and lettuce box,

all fenced in. The cats had messed up some of my lettuce along with

my Catnip.-Imagine what choice cuss words I had for those cats!

What you said about your knots in your upper back reminded me of the

time last Oct when Gretched at AMC PT asked me if my neck hurt. I

said no, but she pushed on some triggers in my upper back and neck.

As it turned out, I had some sorness in my neck muscles. The pain got

started big time. Then it " spread. " Just could not stand it. The pain

was so bad, that I retreated to bed. Horrible to get it started like

that. I wish I had remembered the Arnica.

Dillion

-- In Fibromyalgia_Support_Group , " Savonna "

<isavonna@y...> wrote:

> Trying to recoup from a concert. I should have known better, but it

> was Metallica and Godsmack. I'm a 80's junkie. Its been two days

and

> still aching all over. Hard to believe a concert would do that.

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I had not heard of Cenestin, but here are some web sites.

http://www.fda.gov/cder/news/cenestin/

http://www.cenestin.com/

If you're in Selma Va. I'm just down the road. I don't feel too hot

today, much. Had a weather migraine. I'm just too 'dufas' to drive a

couple of miles to Food Lion. I'll have to make do with range raised

eggs until I feel well enough to drive.

My complaint about FMS (besides all the other complaints) is, when I

get up I feel 3 thousand years dead. Or I've slept for hours, 12

sometimes, and still feel dead. I'll probably have to take a nap,

again today. I feel pretty tired.

> I forgot about the catnip. I used to steep it in with tea. I gotta

remember to find some. Not able to grow it right now. I'm kind of in

the middle of a flareup/breakdown. Usually I have a period

of " remision " . this one has lasted thru the winter and is not letting

up. I'm in Virginia too. Raining like the devil right now. My ducks

seem to love it. Makes me achy all over. I'm taking 1.25 mg of

cenestin now.

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dear savonna,

i'm on premarin and have been for 7yrs, ever since my radical

hysterectomy. i still have break thru hot flashes. but not as bad as

w/o the hormones. last summer i ran out of hormones and for some

reason lloyd convinced me to try to go w/o them b/c they are made of

pregnant horse urine of course. so i went on black cohosh for a

while. it worked for about 2wks, then stopped completely (it had soy

in it). i got so i was having hot flashes once an hour for 24hrs. it

was awful. then if lloyd came anywhere near me i would get a hot

flash b/c he is very hot blooded. sleeping next to him was

horrendous and i was working at the time too.

so i went back on my premarin. but w/money tight i decided to try

another black cohosh remedy some online company sent me to try

awhile ago and i never did. so far it works. i take 1 pill in the

morning (when i remember) and 1 pill at night (i always remember the

night one), they are 20mg each. so far i only get a couple of

flashes at bedtime or waking up flashy and need to run to the

bathroom. but not as bad as last year. if it works i will keep it

up. but i am interested in the other one. i used another steriod

version of premarin but it made me bloat so bad i couldn't stand it

and i dumped it immediately. i cant remember the name. but it wasn't

the one that was mentioned in this group.

anyway, i can always go back to the premarin. but, i'll see how the

hot flashes are for now.

the reason your mom might not have needed them is b/c years ago they

didn't give out hormones. now they automatically do. maybe if you

don't get them right after the operation your body will adjust or

she might have been closer to her time of change. i'm only 44 and my

body isn't ready to go thru the change so it will fuss if i take

away what my biological clock thinks im supposed to have. hell, i

know my clock aint broke yet, b/c when i met lloyd again after 19yrs

and he proposed to me, i suddenly wanted to have his baby. go fig. i

didn't need a baby and it probably would have killed me if i could.

but i wanted it none the less (he even kind of wanted one. lol). so

depending on how old you are and depending on your body clock, your

body probably just isnt ready to let go. i didn't start my periods

until i was almost 16. my mother and auntie both went thru the

change in their early to mid 50s. so i probably wont be able to

totally go off until i'm in my mid 50's. my best friend started

really young. she just went thru the change and we are the same age.

so each person is different.

hope you feel better soon,

nancy

ps. about the catnip, is that the same kind you give cats? b/c i got

a whole bowl full. my cats love it and they get stoned often. if i

thought it would help me sleep i would brew up some.

> Trying to recoup from a concert. I should have known better, but

it

> was Metallica and Godsmack. I'm a 80's junkie. Its been two days

and

> still aching all over. Hard to believe a concert would do that.

>

>

> Ran out of hormone pills and was so worried about getting there

early

> (our pharmacy is closed on Sundays) I never thought the sweats

would

> hit me that hard, and of all times, in the arena, with the heat.

>

> Anyone here on hormone replacement therapy?

>

> It's been three years and still as bad as the first day. Don't

> understand , my mother has had a historectomy for over 20 years

and

> she doesn't get like that. And she doesn't take anything.

>

> Not sure if it was the actual concert or lack of hormones that

made

> me feel this tired and sore.

>

> Didn't get the big knots in my back (shew) I haven't read in here

> that anyone else gets the muscle knots, wondering if it's normal.

Doc

> kinda shrugs it off as normal, it sure doesn't feel very normal.

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