Guest guest Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 O.K., thanks to this group, I got up the nerve to send samples of my current products to MVTL for APC testing. I'm dealing with Nico Strand whose gotta be one of the nicest people ever..Anyway,, the tests came back yesterday- and now, with my chemically challenged self, I need help with the results.They all came back as follows: <1 CFU/gram. I read that as less than 1 Colony Forming Units per gram Is that right? And most importantly,what is the standard for safety? I'm sooooo excited- and scared. Only a tiny step, but a big deal for me. I thank you all for helping me grow. Coral Who just sweated through the birth of her 6th greatgrandchild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 In a message dated 2/21/04 6:08:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, ccarroll48@... writes: > O.K., thanks to this group, I got up the nerve to send samples of my > current products to MVTL for APC testing. I'm dealing with Nico > Strand whose gotta be one of the nicest people ever..Anyway,, the > tests came back yesterday- and now, with my chemically challenged > self, I need help with the results.They all came back as follows: > <1 CFU/gram. I read that as less than 1 Colony Forming Units per gram > Is that right? And most importantly,what is the standard for safety? > I'm sooooo excited- and scared. Only a tiny step, but a big deal for > me. > I thank you all for helping me grow. > Coral > Hi Coral, Congratulations! I disagree that it is a tiny step, I think it's a big step in the right direction. Good for you! Angie The Herbarie Natural Source Ingredients for Toiletries & Cosmetics http://www.theherbarie.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 >Anyway,, the >tests came back yesterday- and now, with my chemically challenged >self, I need help with the results.They all came back as follows: ><1 CFU/gram. I read that as less than 1 Colony Forming Units per gram >Is that right? And most importantly,what is the standard for safety? You are correct. Your product contains less than 1 colony forming unit per gram. This is VERY GOOD. >And most importantly,what is the standard for safety? There are no micro standards but there are guidelines. Here are the FDA, EU and CTFA micro guidelines. ------------------------ FDA Guidelines: " Cosmetic products are not expected to be aseptic; however, they must be completely free of high-virulence microbial pathogens, and the total number of aerobic microorganisms per gram must be low. Since there are no widely acceptable standards for numbers, temporary guidelines are used instead. For eye-area products, counts should not be greater than 500 colony forming units (CFU)/g; for non-eye-area products, counts should not be greater than 1000 CFU/g. The presence of pathogens would be particularly important in evaluating as unacceptable a cosmetic with a marginally acceptable count, e.g., 400 CFU/g for an eye-area product. Pathogens or opportunistic pathogens whose incidence would be of particular concern, especially in eye-area cosmetic products, include S. aureus, Streptococcus pyogenes, P. aeruginosa and other species, and Klebsiella pneumoniae. Some microbes normally regarded as nonpathogenic may be opportunistically pathogenic, e.g., in wounds. " http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~ebam/bam-23.html ------------------------ The EU's expectations can be found in Annex 8 of the EU csometic regulations: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/files/International_Regs/EU_Co\ smetic_Regs_Vol_3.pdf Guidelines on Microbiological Quality of the Finished Cosmetic Product 2. CATEGORIES OF COSMETICS IN MICROBIOLOGICAL QUALITY CONTROL In relation with the microbiological quality control, two categories of cosmetics are defined. Category 1: Products specifically intended for children under 3 years, eye area and mucous membranes. Category 2: Other products. 3. QUANTITATIVE LIMITS The limit for cosmetics classified in Category 1 is: total viable count for aerobic mesophyllic micro-organisms not more than 100 cfu/g or ml in 0.5 g or ml of the product. The limit for cosmetics classified in Category 2 is: total viable count for aerobic mesophyllic micro-organisms not more than 1000 cfu/g or ml in 0.1 g or ml of the product. 4. QUALITATIVE LIMITS Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Staphylococcus aureus and Candida albicans are considered the main potential pathogens in cosmetic products. These specified potential pathogens must not be detectable in 0.5 g or ml of the cosmetic product in cosmetics of Category 1 and in 0.1 g or ml in cosmetics of Category 2. ------------------------ The CTFA recommends: * Baby products not more than 102 CFU per g or mL. * Eye area products not more than 102 CFU per g or mL. * All other products not more than 103 CFU per g or mL. In addition to these recommended microbial limits, no product should have a microbial content recognized as either harmful to the user or able to compromise product integrity, as recovered by standard plate count, specific pathogen test, or an equivalent automated procedure. Objectionable organisms can be determined and identified from colonies recovered on suitable microbial growth media. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/files/Preservative_Info/CTFA_M\ icro_Limits_for_Cosmetics_and_Toiletries.pdf ------------------------ Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 I think it's a big step in the right direction. Good for you! Angie Thanks a bunch, Coral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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