Guest guest Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 lotions? There is no information (that I can find) available on canola, except as a cooking oil. According to my handy Oahun list the INCI is canola oil. If it's canola oil soap, it's sodium canolate. I love it when we run into one of those suckers without a four inch botanical name that <will not> fit on anything less than a six inch label Coral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 lotions? There is no information (that I can find) available on canola, except as a cooking oil. According to my handy Oahun list the INCI is canola oil. If it's canola oil soap, it's sodium canolate. I love it when we run into one of those suckers without a four inch botanical name that <will not> fit on anything less than a six inch label Coral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 > If it's canola oil soap, it's sodium canolate. Sodium Canolate is NOT an INCI name. >Your question makes me think of this found on the Soap Supplies and >Candle Supplies website >http://www.soapmaking-soapsupplies.com/oil_properties.html > > " You are not required by law to label the ingredients on 'true' >handmade soap, but if you want to label the ingredients, you may use >the common name in parenthesis after the INCI name. > >(Sodium Castorate) Castor Oil >(Sodium Tallowate) Beef Tallow >(Sodium Cocoa Butterate) Cocoa Butter >(Sodium Cocoate) Coconut Oil >(Sodium Mango Butterate) Mango Butter >(Sodium Olivate) Olive Oil >(Sodium Palm Kernelate) Palm Kernel Oil >(Sodium Palmate) Palm Oil >(Sodium Peanutate) Peanut Oil >(Sodium Shea Butterate) Shea Butter " > >Using names like Sodium Castorate and Sodium Olivate is an attempt to >avoid listing Sodium Hydroxide on the label. > >This method of labeling has been often called the " whateverate " method. > >http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/message/7393 > >also see > >http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/message/7462 >http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/message/17826 >http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/message/19799 > >If you use these names, to be compliant with the FDA labeling >regulations, you must list the other ingredients " in descending order >of predominance " . > >Here are some definitions from the 9th edition of the International >Cosmetic Ingredient Dictionary and Handbook: > >Sodium Olivate is the sodium salt of the fatty acids derived from Olea >Europaea (Olive) Oil > >Sodium Castorate is the sodium salt of the fatty acids derived from >Ricinus Communis (Castor) Oil > >Sodium Cocoate is the sodium salt of Coconut Acid > >Sodium Palmate is the sodium salt of the acids derived from Elaeis >Guineensis (Palm) Oil > >Sodium Palm Kernelate is the sodium salt of the acids derived from palm >kernel oil. > >Sodium Peanutate is the sodium salt of the fatty acids derived from >Arachis Hypogaea (Peanut) Oil. > >Sodium Palmate is the sodium salt of the acids derived from Elaeis >Guineensis (Palm) Oil. > >Sodium Tallowate is the sodium salt of Tallow Acid > >These names are used by people that buy pure Sodium Cocoate, Sodium >Cocoate etc to make soap. > >When you saponify olive oil with sodium hydroxide, the resulting soap >contains > >Sodium Olivate >Olive Oil >Olive Oil Unsaponifiables >Glycerin > >not just Sodium Olivate. > >This is not difficult with one oil but when you start mixing the >oils/butters, it is virtually impossible to " the name of each >ingredient in descending order of predominance " without some knowledge >of physical organic chemistry and chemical analysis. > >BTW, > >Sodium Shea Butterate >Sodium Mango Butterate >Sodium Cocoa Butterate > >are NOT INCI names Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 > If it's canola oil soap, it's sodium canolate. Sodium Canolate is NOT an INCI name. >Your question makes me think of this found on the Soap Supplies and >Candle Supplies website >http://www.soapmaking-soapsupplies.com/oil_properties.html > > " You are not required by law to label the ingredients on 'true' >handmade soap, but if you want to label the ingredients, you may use >the common name in parenthesis after the INCI name. > >(Sodium Castorate) Castor Oil >(Sodium Tallowate) Beef Tallow >(Sodium Cocoa Butterate) Cocoa Butter >(Sodium Cocoate) Coconut Oil >(Sodium Mango Butterate) Mango Butter >(Sodium Olivate) Olive Oil >(Sodium Palm Kernelate) Palm Kernel Oil >(Sodium Palmate) Palm Oil >(Sodium Peanutate) Peanut Oil >(Sodium Shea Butterate) Shea Butter " > >Using names like Sodium Castorate and Sodium Olivate is an attempt to >avoid listing Sodium Hydroxide on the label. > >This method of labeling has been often called the " whateverate " method. > >http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/message/7393 > >also see > >http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/message/7462 >http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/message/17826 >http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/message/19799 > >If you use these names, to be compliant with the FDA labeling >regulations, you must list the other ingredients " in descending order >of predominance " . > >Here are some definitions from the 9th edition of the International >Cosmetic Ingredient Dictionary and Handbook: > >Sodium Olivate is the sodium salt of the fatty acids derived from Olea >Europaea (Olive) Oil > >Sodium Castorate is the sodium salt of the fatty acids derived from >Ricinus Communis (Castor) Oil > >Sodium Cocoate is the sodium salt of Coconut Acid > >Sodium Palmate is the sodium salt of the acids derived from Elaeis >Guineensis (Palm) Oil > >Sodium Palm Kernelate is the sodium salt of the acids derived from palm >kernel oil. > >Sodium Peanutate is the sodium salt of the fatty acids derived from >Arachis Hypogaea (Peanut) Oil. > >Sodium Palmate is the sodium salt of the acids derived from Elaeis >Guineensis (Palm) Oil. > >Sodium Tallowate is the sodium salt of Tallow Acid > >These names are used by people that buy pure Sodium Cocoate, Sodium >Cocoate etc to make soap. > >When you saponify olive oil with sodium hydroxide, the resulting soap >contains > >Sodium Olivate >Olive Oil >Olive Oil Unsaponifiables >Glycerin > >not just Sodium Olivate. > >This is not difficult with one oil but when you start mixing the >oils/butters, it is virtually impossible to " the name of each >ingredient in descending order of predominance " without some knowledge >of physical organic chemistry and chemical analysis. > >BTW, > >Sodium Shea Butterate >Sodium Mango Butterate >Sodium Cocoa Butterate > >are NOT INCI names Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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