Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 >#1 When a preservative is used I understand that it extends >the " shelf life " of the product. When i think of the " shelf life " of a product, I think about how long that product will be physically stable and sellable. Quoting from the Principles of Preservation http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/files/Preservative_Info/Princi\ ples_of_Preservation.pdf " A preservative is defined as a material that will prevent the growth of or react with and destroy microorganisms that might damage the product or create a health hazard by growing on or in the product. " >Is there still a limit to that " shelf life " ? In theory, there is always a self life for any man made product. >Is there a recommended " use by " date? A " use by date " is used in drugs. Over a period of time, the activity of an active ingredient will change, hence the " use by date " . >#2 If ,after I get some experience under my belt, I come up with a >formula that I might like to sell how do I go about getting a >challenge test done? Does a test need to be done on each batch? A challenge test is the last thing that you do when creating a product. If the product passes the challenge test, you should have to do it again. An Aerobic Plate Count (APC) is run on every batch to make sure that it is not contaminated. Quoting from the Principles of Preservation http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/files/Preservative_Info/Princi\ ples_of_Preservation.pdf " Preservative efficacy testing is an essential part of substantiating the safety of a product. Most large personal care manufacturers have a microbiology staff that performs preservative testing. Smaller companies may use the services of an outside micro lab for testing. The goal of efficacy testing is to determine, not only which preservative system to use against the strains of microorganisms to which the product may be exposed, but also that concentration of preservative that will preserve the product during manufacturing and under use conditions. The microbiologist's most important procedure for testing if a sample is contaminated is the Aerobic Plate Count or APC. The APC is used to determine the number of viable organisms present in a sample. This is carried out on agar plates that contain materials that support microbial growth. Each colony is assumed to represent growth from a single organism. Preservative testing is often lengthy and time consuming. Therefore, there are a number of fairly rapid screening methods that are used by microbiologists. The most common of these is called the Minimum Inhibitory Concentration or MIC test. This test determines the lowest concentration of the preservative system that will retard microbial growth. It uses inoculations of standard organisms that are representative of both Gram-positive and Gram-negative bacteria, yeast and mold. In light of the previous discussion of all of the factors that may influence the activity of a preservative, it is essential to test the preservative system in the actual finished formulation. This is done by means of an Adequacy of Preservation Challenge Test or Challenge Test. For this test, the preservative is generally incorporated into a product base and " challenged " or inoculated with a large number of standard organisms along with various " house " organisms. " House " organisms are organisms that have adapted to a particular product or environment and whose metabolic activity is varied from the norm of its particular strain. They are often unique to a manufacturing plant. Assays are performed over a predetermined period of time, typically 4 to 8 weeks, sometimes with a rechallenge at 3 or 4 weeks. " Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2004 Report Share Posted January 15, 2004 >#1 When a preservative is used I understand that it extends >the " shelf life " of the product. When i think of the " shelf life " of a product, I think about how long that product will be physically stable and sellable. Quoting from the Principles of Preservation http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/files/Preservative_Info/Princi\ ples_of_Preservation.pdf " A preservative is defined as a material that will prevent the growth of or react with and destroy microorganisms that might damage the product or create a health hazard by growing on or in the product. " >Is there still a limit to that " shelf life " ? In theory, there is always a self life for any man made product. >Is there a recommended " use by " date? A " use by date " is used in drugs. Over a period of time, the activity of an active ingredient will change, hence the " use by date " . >#2 If ,after I get some experience under my belt, I come up with a >formula that I might like to sell how do I go about getting a >challenge test done? Does a test need to be done on each batch? A challenge test is the last thing that you do when creating a product. If the product passes the challenge test, you should have to do it again. An Aerobic Plate Count (APC) is run on every batch to make sure that it is not contaminated. Quoting from the Principles of Preservation http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/files/Preservative_Info/Princi\ ples_of_Preservation.pdf " Preservative efficacy testing is an essential part of substantiating the safety of a product. Most large personal care manufacturers have a microbiology staff that performs preservative testing. Smaller companies may use the services of an outside micro lab for testing. The goal of efficacy testing is to determine, not only which preservative system to use against the strains of microorganisms to which the product may be exposed, but also that concentration of preservative that will preserve the product during manufacturing and under use conditions. The microbiologist's most important procedure for testing if a sample is contaminated is the Aerobic Plate Count or APC. The APC is used to determine the number of viable organisms present in a sample. This is carried out on agar plates that contain materials that support microbial growth. Each colony is assumed to represent growth from a single organism. Preservative testing is often lengthy and time consuming. Therefore, there are a number of fairly rapid screening methods that are used by microbiologists. The most common of these is called the Minimum Inhibitory Concentration or MIC test. This test determines the lowest concentration of the preservative system that will retard microbial growth. It uses inoculations of standard organisms that are representative of both Gram-positive and Gram-negative bacteria, yeast and mold. In light of the previous discussion of all of the factors that may influence the activity of a preservative, it is essential to test the preservative system in the actual finished formulation. This is done by means of an Adequacy of Preservation Challenge Test or Challenge Test. For this test, the preservative is generally incorporated into a product base and " challenged " or inoculated with a large number of standard organisms along with various " house " organisms. " House " organisms are organisms that have adapted to a particular product or environment and whose metabolic activity is varied from the norm of its particular strain. They are often unique to a manufacturing plant. Assays are performed over a predetermined period of time, typically 4 to 8 weeks, sometimes with a rechallenge at 3 or 4 weeks. " Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 > >A challenge test is the last thing that you do when creating a product. > >If the product passes the challenge test, you should have to do it > >again. An Aerobic Plate Count (APC) is run on every batch to make sure > >that it is not contaminated. > > Where do I get these tests done? (I'm in southeast MN) Are they expensive? I have my APC testing done at Gloria Minnesota Valley Testing Laboratories 1126 North Front Street P.O. Box 249 New Ulm, MN 56073 Tel: FAX: Email: gsamvtl@... They are reasonable. Maurice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 >I use Germaben as a preservative, but recently learned that I should >use Vit. E to help oils from becomming rancid. Vitamin E also known as Tocopherol or alpha Tocopherol will help to retard rancidity of natural oils . Vitamin E Acetate also known as Tocopheryl Acetate WILL NOT help to retard rancidity of natural oils . > Should I use the Germaben AND the Vit. E together in lotions? If your oil phase contains any ingredients that could go rancid, you should be adding Vitamin E to your formula. > If so, at what rate for each? Germaben II and Germaben II-E can be used at 1%. http://www.ispcorp.com/products/preservatives/content/brochure/preserve/preserv.\ html As far as the level of Vitamin E, I am going to refer you to these documents: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/message/19761 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/message/19764 Maurice -------------------------------------------------------- Maurice O. Hevey Convergent Cosmetics, Inc. http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com ------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Well, i'm fairly new to this. I have been making items for personal use and I don't mind if I have to refrigerate or use within small amounts of time. I just make very small batches. I have friends and family that would like some of the things I make and was just wondering what actual experience dictates, rather than reading.... Lori > > what do you like about what you have read and what do you not like? > > Dakota > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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