RE: ASA and the Ribbon Logo - One Mom's Story

[Guest guest]

Hello , ,

The ASA may be hoarding the autism ribbon as a symbol of the ASA, but I called dibs (trade mark, copyright) on the autism flag:

.. . . as an alternative to the ribbon, and I am offering to license the image of the autism puzzle flag for $1 per year to any non-profit autism group. I also created the autism puzzle world emblem (which I think would make a great button).

As for the ASA, when you come up against a brick wall, you can either beat your head against it, or go around it. However, the local ASA chapters are some of finest autism support groups around.

Lenny Schafer

Izak's dad

Schafer Autism Report

Publisher

ASA Member 1992

From: Karp Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 3:36 PMTo: deniseslist Subject: ASA and the Ribbon Logo - One Mom's Story

Please note: This letter is from another listserv and is being reproduced here with permission of the writer.

-----Original Message-----From: autismlink Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:01 PMTo: AutismRecoveryNetwork Subject: [AutismRecoveryNetwork] The True ASA -- and a ho ho ho to you tooObviously, this is just my opinion.Hello listmates:First of all, I don't know if you were as appalled as I was when theAutism Society "branded" the puzzle ribbon. My first thought was --HOW DARE THEY copyright the symbol of autism. It's ours. It's likebranding the flag and saying "you have to pay me to use it." Ofcourse, it all spurrs from corporate greed, which is why otherorganizations around the country are picking up speed. Parents seethe true side of the ASA.At any rate, I wanted to tell you about an episode I had with themrecently. I've been raising funds for my organization by selling the"Autism Awareness" magnets and a few other items on AutismLink'swebsite. Sales have been brisk and we're using the money to fundrespite and a few other programs. We are a nonprofit with NO PAIDEMPLOYEES -- all parent volunteers. Suddenly, we get a message fromthe ASA telling me I'm violating their copyright. Excuse me? Themanufacturer that actually SELLS the magnets gives a portion of theprofits of each magnet sale to the ASA already!!!!!I am done volunteering for them, and I am done paying dues tonational, and I hope you are too. Did you know that they actuallytried to copyright the PUZZLE PIECES TOO????? Hello? Did they inventthe puzzle????If you're selling anything on ebay or cafepress, or on a website --look out because they'll do to you what they've done to me, despitethe fact that they told people that they could CONTINUE TO USE THELOGO. They've threatened me with a lawsuit for the lousy $80 I"vemade on cafepress. They disgust me. W.AutismLink(Contact jmellow@... if you want to tell them what youthink of their copyright.)Visit the ARN Homepage! http://www.geocities.com/ARNFL

[Guest guest]

As it just so happens, I am introducing another autism ribbon symbol in the next autism calendar of events.

This is tentatively a symbol for the "Autism is Treatable" campaign. There is more than one way to tie a ribbon bow doncha know. The reason I keep the copyrights by charging one dollar is to keep control of it so that I can keep it out of the hands of those who would claim it as only their own or use it to rip-off people.

-Lenny

ps. , I wonder if all that great press your getting about the autism bracelettes may have caught the interest of the ASA lawyers, hmmm?

From: schafer Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 2:37 AMTo: sList ; cindy@...; AutismRecoveryNetwork Subject: RE: ASA and the Ribbon Logo - One Mom's Story

Hello , ,

The ASA may be hoarding the autism ribbon as a symbol of the ASA, but I called dibs (trade mark, copyright) on the autism flag:

.. . . as an alternative to the ribbon, and I am offering to license the image of the autism puzzle flag for $1 per year to any non-profit autism group. I also created the autism puzzle world emblem (which I think would make a great button).

As for the ASA, when you come up against a brick wall, you can either beat your head against it, or go around it. However, the local ASA chapters are some of finest autism support groups around.

Lenny Schafer

Izak's dad

Schafer Autism Report

Publisher

ASA Member 1992

From: Karp Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 3:36 PMTo: deniseslist Subject: ASA and the Ribbon Logo - One Mom's Story

Please note: This letter is from another listserv and is being reproduced here with permission of the writer.

-----Original Message-----From: autismlink Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:01 PMTo: AutismRecoveryNetwork Subject: [AutismRecoveryNetwork] The True ASA -- and a ho ho ho to you tooObviously, this is just my opinion.Hello listmates:First of all, I don't know if you were as appalled as I was when theAutism Society "branded" the puzzle ribbon. My first thought was --HOW DARE THEY copyright the symbol of autism. It's ours. It's likebranding the flag and saying "you have to pay me to use it." Ofcourse, it all spurrs from corporate greed, which is why otherorganizations around the country are picking up speed. Parents seethe true side of the ASA.At any rate, I wanted to tell you about an episode I had with themrecently. I've been raising funds for my organization by selling the"Autism Awareness" magnets and a few other items on AutismLink'swebsite. Sales have been brisk and we're using the money to fundrespite and a few other programs. We are a nonprofit with NO PAIDEMPLOYEES -- all parent volunteers. Suddenly, we get a message fromthe ASA telling me I'm violating their copyright. Excuse me? Themanufacturer that actually SELLS the magnets gives a portion of theprofits of each magnet sale to the ASA already!!!!!I am done volunteering for them, and I am done paying dues tonational, and I hope you are too. Did you know that they actuallytried to copyright the PUZZLE PIECES TOO????? Hello? Did they inventthe puzzle????If you're selling anything on ebay or cafepress, or on a website --look out because they'll do to you what they've done to me, despitethe fact that they told people that they could CONTINUE TO USE THELOGO. They've threatened me with a lawsuit for the lousy $80 I"vemade on cafepress. They disgust me. W.AutismLink(Contact jmellow@... if you want to tell them what youthink of their copyright.)Visit the ARN Homepage! http://www.geocities.com/ARNFL

[Guest guest]

As it just so happens, I am introducing another autism ribbon symbol in the next autism calendar of events.

This is tentatively a symbol for the "Autism is Treatable" campaign. There is more than one way to tie a ribbon bow doncha know. The reason I keep the copyrights by charging one dollar is to keep control of it so that I can keep it out of the hands of those who would claim it as only their own or use it to rip-off people.

-Lenny

ps. , I wonder if all that great press your getting about the autism bracelettes may have caught the interest of the ASA lawyers, hmmm?

From: schafer Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 2:37 AMTo: sList ; cindy@...; AutismRecoveryNetwork Subject: RE: ASA and the Ribbon Logo - One Mom's Story

Hello , ,

The ASA may be hoarding the autism ribbon as a symbol of the ASA, but I called dibs (trade mark, copyright) on the autism flag:

.. . . as an alternative to the ribbon, and I am offering to license the image of the autism puzzle flag for $1 per year to any non-profit autism group. I also created the autism puzzle world emblem (which I think would make a great button).

As for the ASA, when you come up against a brick wall, you can either beat your head against it, or go around it. However, the local ASA chapters are some of finest autism support groups around.

Lenny Schafer

Izak's dad

Schafer Autism Report

Publisher

ASA Member 1992

From: Karp Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 3:36 PMTo: deniseslist Subject: ASA and the Ribbon Logo - One Mom's Story

Please note: This letter is from another listserv and is being reproduced here with permission of the writer.

-----Original Message-----From: autismlink Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:01 PMTo: AutismRecoveryNetwork Subject: [AutismRecoveryNetwork] The True ASA -- and a ho ho ho to you tooObviously, this is just my opinion.Hello listmates:First of all, I don't know if you were as appalled as I was when theAutism Society "branded" the puzzle ribbon. My first thought was --HOW DARE THEY copyright the symbol of autism. It's ours. It's likebranding the flag and saying "you have to pay me to use it." Ofcourse, it all spurrs from corporate greed, which is why otherorganizations around the country are picking up speed. Parents seethe true side of the ASA.At any rate, I wanted to tell you about an episode I had with themrecently. I've been raising funds for my organization by selling the"Autism Awareness" magnets and a few other items on AutismLink'swebsite. Sales have been brisk and we're using the money to fundrespite and a few other programs. We are a nonprofit with NO PAIDEMPLOYEES -- all parent volunteers. Suddenly, we get a message fromthe ASA telling me I'm violating their copyright. Excuse me? Themanufacturer that actually SELLS the magnets gives a portion of theprofits of each magnet sale to the ASA already!!!!!I am done volunteering for them, and I am done paying dues tonational, and I hope you are too. Did you know that they actuallytried to copyright the PUZZLE PIECES TOO????? Hello? Did they inventthe puzzle????If you're selling anything on ebay or cafepress, or on a website --look out because they'll do to you what they've done to me, despitethe fact that they told people that they could CONTINUE TO USE THELOGO. They've threatened me with a lawsuit for the lousy $80 I"vemade on cafepress. They disgust me. W.AutismLink(Contact jmellow@... if you want to tell them what youthink of their copyright.)Visit the ARN Homepage! http://www.geocities.com/ARNFL

[Guest guest]

As it just so happens, I am introducing another autism ribbon symbol in the next autism calendar of events.

This is tentatively a symbol for the "Autism is Treatable" campaign. There is more than one way to tie a ribbon bow doncha know. The reason I keep the copyrights by charging one dollar is to keep control of it so that I can keep it out of the hands of those who would claim it as only their own or use it to rip-off people.

-Lenny

ps. , I wonder if all that great press your getting about the autism bracelettes may have caught the interest of the ASA lawyers, hmmm?

From: schafer Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 2:37 AMTo: sList ; cindy@...; AutismRecoveryNetwork Subject: RE: ASA and the Ribbon Logo - One Mom's Story

Hello , ,

The ASA may be hoarding the autism ribbon as a symbol of the ASA, but I called dibs (trade mark, copyright) on the autism flag:

.. . . as an alternative to the ribbon, and I am offering to license the image of the autism puzzle flag for $1 per year to any non-profit autism group. I also created the autism puzzle world emblem (which I think would make a great button).

As for the ASA, when you come up against a brick wall, you can either beat your head against it, or go around it. However, the local ASA chapters are some of finest autism support groups around.

Lenny Schafer

Izak's dad

Schafer Autism Report

Publisher

ASA Member 1992

From: Karp Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 3:36 PMTo: deniseslist Subject: ASA and the Ribbon Logo - One Mom's Story

Please note: This letter is from another listserv and is being reproduced here with permission of the writer.

-----Original Message-----From: autismlink Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:01 PMTo: AutismRecoveryNetwork Subject: [AutismRecoveryNetwork] The True ASA -- and a ho ho ho to you tooObviously, this is just my opinion.Hello listmates:First of all, I don't know if you were as appalled as I was when theAutism Society "branded" the puzzle ribbon. My first thought was --HOW DARE THEY copyright the symbol of autism. It's ours. It's likebranding the flag and saying "you have to pay me to use it." Ofcourse, it all spurrs from corporate greed, which is why otherorganizations around the country are picking up speed. Parents seethe true side of the ASA.At any rate, I wanted to tell you about an episode I had with themrecently. I've been raising funds for my organization by selling the"Autism Awareness" magnets and a few other items on AutismLink'swebsite. Sales have been brisk and we're using the money to fundrespite and a few other programs. We are a nonprofit with NO PAIDEMPLOYEES -- all parent volunteers. Suddenly, we get a message fromthe ASA telling me I'm violating their copyright. Excuse me? Themanufacturer that actually SELLS the magnets gives a portion of theprofits of each magnet sale to the ASA already!!!!!I am done volunteering for them, and I am done paying dues tonational, and I hope you are too. Did you know that they actuallytried to copyright the PUZZLE PIECES TOO????? Hello? Did they inventthe puzzle????If you're selling anything on ebay or cafepress, or on a website --look out because they'll do to you what they've done to me, despitethe fact that they told people that they could CONTINUE TO USE THELOGO. They've threatened me with a lawsuit for the lousy $80 I"vemade on cafepress. They disgust me. W.AutismLink(Contact jmellow@... if you want to tell them what youthink of their copyright.)Visit the ARN Homepage! http://www.geocities.com/ARNFL