Guest guest Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 Marge, Marge <marge@n...> wrote: > one popular author... Worwood...uses 5% in her blends... >no one else. Worwood is the ONLY one to use 5% in her blends? >her first book was one that got me started blending...it was a >couple of years before I realized I was using twice as strong a >dilution as necessary, and, sometimes, for safety. My knowledge has been gained over the past 8 years of applied experience. In this ongoing post, I've explained that the percentage of eo needs to be considered for the individual application. I have read " The Complete Book of Essential Oils & Aromatherapy " by Ann Worwood & highly respect her writings... do you not consider her a valid source of information? Lawless recommends 1-3% eo in a massage blend in " The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Essential Oils " . Micheline Arcier recommends 1-3% eo for face & 2-5% for body in " Aromatherapy - Health & Beauty Care with Massage and Essential Oils " . Micheline Arcier teaches aromatherapy, is a massage therapist, and has had training under Dr. Valnet... Is she also applying too much eo in her blends? > The message indicates some serious misunderstandings of basic > dermatological safety information. 5% of a citrus oil can be both >irritating AND photosensitizing... My message indicates serious misunderstandings of basic dermatological safety info??? I NEVER, EVER said I use 5% citrus in any of my applications & I take offense to my post being completely misquoted. I understand very well the possibilities for irritation as well as photosensitivity & in Post #23065, I explained that BF Bergaptene should be used for skin applications... it would be impossible to go into every scenario of possible affects for each oil, but I thought that would be a helpful bit of info for someone who didn't even know bergaptene-free exists. Safety is of the upmost concern to me with my clients. I've clearly stated more than once that people need to study, as well as respect, essential oils if they are planning on using them. >are people going to KNOW that her product is the cause of the >problem? not always... PLEASE... if you are using the eo's to >flavor lip balms... study... know the safety rules... Well, we agree on something. > (I don't want to beat a dead horse...but I was asked to go back >and answer this one.) Kinda feeling like a dead horse here! Tammy Tivis www.ElementsBathandBody.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 Marge, Marge <marge@n...> wrote: > one popular author... Worwood...uses 5% in her blends... >no one else. Worwood is the ONLY one to use 5% in her blends? >her first book was one that got me started blending...it was a >couple of years before I realized I was using twice as strong a >dilution as necessary, and, sometimes, for safety. My knowledge has been gained over the past 8 years of applied experience. In this ongoing post, I've explained that the percentage of eo needs to be considered for the individual application. I have read " The Complete Book of Essential Oils & Aromatherapy " by Ann Worwood & highly respect her writings... do you not consider her a valid source of information? Lawless recommends 1-3% eo in a massage blend in " The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Essential Oils " . Micheline Arcier recommends 1-3% eo for face & 2-5% for body in " Aromatherapy - Health & Beauty Care with Massage and Essential Oils " . Micheline Arcier teaches aromatherapy, is a massage therapist, and has had training under Dr. Valnet... Is she also applying too much eo in her blends? > The message indicates some serious misunderstandings of basic > dermatological safety information. 5% of a citrus oil can be both >irritating AND photosensitizing... My message indicates serious misunderstandings of basic dermatological safety info??? I NEVER, EVER said I use 5% citrus in any of my applications & I take offense to my post being completely misquoted. I understand very well the possibilities for irritation as well as photosensitivity & in Post #23065, I explained that BF Bergaptene should be used for skin applications... it would be impossible to go into every scenario of possible affects for each oil, but I thought that would be a helpful bit of info for someone who didn't even know bergaptene-free exists. Safety is of the upmost concern to me with my clients. I've clearly stated more than once that people need to study, as well as respect, essential oils if they are planning on using them. >are people going to KNOW that her product is the cause of the >problem? not always... PLEASE... if you are using the eo's to >flavor lip balms... study... know the safety rules... Well, we agree on something. > (I don't want to beat a dead horse...but I was asked to go back >and answer this one.) Kinda feeling like a dead horse here! Tammy Tivis www.ElementsBathandBody.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 Sorry folks, my last email should have been titled RE: EO's as Flavoring instead of RE: Digest Number 1631. Pat. List owner. Peace, Joy, Serenity. pat@... http://www.houseofscents.com For quality hand-crafted Toiletries, Massage Oils, Incense and Candles. Designed to make you look and feel great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 Hi Pat, Thank you for your thoughtful response. I realize that I should've been more careful in exactly what I said when posting about a particular subject. I guess that I mistakenly assume that everyone will take the time to do as much research as possible prior to adding any ingredient to their product. The purpose of your group is to have questions answered by members w/applied knowledge. I have not claimed to be an expert, and have clearly mentioned time & again that I have only been doing this for 8 years. This is starting to remind me of when I first started working as a massage therapist in CA in 1996. We couldn't say to our clients " You need to drink plenty of water after a massage " because that could be considered a prescription. I am not a physician, so I was supposed to say " Many people find it beneficial to drink plenty of water after a massage " . Stupid? I thought so, but it was a way to protect ourselves after some idiot actually sued their therapist for " prescribing " water. Everyone needs to use a little bit of common sense & a whole lot of research when making products that are used directly on the skin. I rely on homeopathic remedies, including aromatherapy, in my daily life to relieve minor ailments. (Let me be clear that I am NOT saying that I recommend or advise that anyone not seek professional medical assistance!) lol I understand that your post wasn't meant as a put-down, but my information was backed by experts in the field of aromatherapy. If you and Marge care to disagree w/their research, that's perfectly fine. But, when I feel that my name is being smudged because I have " serious misunderstandings of basic dermatological safety information " & am blatantly misquoted, expect that I will respond. Thank you for the list & the hard work you do! I truly appreciate having such a reliable source! Tammy Tivis www.ElementsBathandBody.com " Pat McDonnell " <achil@m...> wrote: > > From: " elementsbathandbody13 " <elements1@b...> > > Subject: Re: EO's as flavouring > I also make a fair amount of massage oil and I have never used more than 3% eo > in any of the blends of massage oils. I can see no reason for using 5% on > the body, regardless of who recommends it. I believe Marge uses > justifyable caution with her recommendations, something she has learned from > many years in the business. > we all need to look at what we write before posting it to the list. > Tammy, this is not a put down, it is a reminder to everyone to double check > their posts before posting to the list to make sure that the reader will not > get the wrong message from what was written. > > Pat. List owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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