low temp

December 10, 1998

HI Amy

My temp runs really low like 96.1 or so. When I had surgery this summer and

got a post surgical infection, I had a hard time convincing them that when my

temp is 99 I am really sick. Mine was always low before Lyme, then went lower

with Lyme, If my temp goes over 99.9 I am in a really bad Herx.

Connie

December 10, 1998

In a message dated 12/10/1998 8:37:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, Cslyme@...

writes:

> HI Amy

>

> My temp runs really low like 96.1 or so. When I had surgery this summer

and

> got a post surgical infection, I had a hard time convincing them that when

> my

> temp is 99 I am really sick. Mine was always low before Lyme, then went

> lower

> with Lyme, If my temp goes over 99.9 I am in a really bad Herx.

> Connie

>

Hello Connie:

Read your comments to Amy.....I am just like you are....my temp

is always BELOW NORMAL...sometimes 96.5 When its around

99 I am ovulating or herxing. It usually rises at least once a

month for a few days..... My below normal temperature is

related to my hypothyroid.

fransea

nj seashore

April 13, 1999

Hi Reid and Marta,

I run a low temp all the time. It is usually 96.1. When I get to even 98 I

am sick. When I had a post op infection last summer my temp was 99. I

couldn't get the nurses at the hospital to listen. When it goes to 99 it

might as well be 104 that's how bad I feel.

Connie

January 29, 2004

Hi Alobar, I find your account especially interesting because I have

a low body temperature and your description of the night chills and

sweats exactly matches my own experience. My blankets are in a

tangled heap by morning. I have been using coconut oil at 3 1/2 Tbs

per day for about two months. My temperature has not come up much,

maybe a few tenths of a degree. Nor have I lost an ounce. Chronic

Fatigue keeps me from being active. I am a little disappointed at the

lack of progress, (increased temp, lower weight) but maybe I am being

too impatient, or perhaps should be taking more coconut oil? How much

have you been taking? Did you start to lose weight right away, or did

it begin slowly? I have not tried coconut milk. What are the

advantages, compared to coconut oil? Thanks, Laureen

> When I first started reading about coconut oil, I saw a nifty

>way to measure my metabolism. I own an accurate digital

>thermometer for cooking. Almost instant reading. I took my

>temperature first thing when I woke up with the thermometer in my

>armpit. Generally the thermometer read 94F or so. After taking

>coconut oil daily, or drinking a can of coconut milk, my armpit

>temperature on waking is now about 96 (sometimes higher) -- which

>means I am burning more calories.

>

> For many years (decades, actually), I would get real cold

>during the night & need lots of blankets, then sometimes I would

>sweat heavily & throw off my blankets, then get chilled again.

>

> Since I began drinking coconut milk late at night or eating

>coconut oil, I no longer get the chills or the night sweats. Also,

>with absolutely no calorie counting and no restriction on how much I

>ate, I lost about 20 pounds over the past 6 months or so. I am on a

>low carb diet because of diabetes (type II), but I eat plenty of

>calories with butter, meat with all the fat left on, marrow bones,

>and coconut oil. I suspect if I added more coconut oil, I would

>lose more weight -- especially if I cut back some on the butter. I

>have begun to drink more coconut oil to see what that does for me

>over the next six months.

>

>Alobar

>

January 29, 2004

Hello Laureen,

From what I understand one of the things Chronic Fatigue is related

to is having a candida overgrowth. The way to attack this is to

attack the overgrowth. One way to go is to take Fungal Defense by

Garden of Life and go on the candida diet. Also, how much amalgum

do you have in your mouth. The mercury that's in your system from

amalgum (and worse if you also have gold in your mouth), seems to

perpetuate the problem.

You probably already know all this, but since I'm new, I thought I'd

say it anyways.

Just a story about that. A friend of mine with terrible Chronic

Fatigue was treated by an alternative Doctor on this and one of the

things he did was have her take all the amalgum/mercury out of your

mouth (she also has gold, gut that's OK alone). He told her that

she would not have problems with candida after that, she hasn't

since, 8 or more years ago. Of course, she hasn't had Chronic

Fatigue either, as far as I know. I don't know much else about her

treatment other than that, sorry. And the Doctor that treated her

is no longer in this area of the country.

I don't mean to sound simplistic. I know there is so much more to

it, just wish to help.

God bless,

aireph

> Hi Alobar,

Chronic

> Fatigue keeps me from being active. I am a little disappointed at

the

> lack of progress, (increased temp, lower weight) but maybe I am

being

> too impatient, or perhaps should be taking more coconut oil? How

much

> have you been taking? Did you start to lose weight right away, or

did

> it begin slowly? I have not tried coconut milk. What are the

> advantages, compared to coconut oil? Thanks, Laureen

January 29, 2004

I like to eat 4 meals a day otherwise I get hungry & want to

snack late at night on foods which are not very good for me. A can

of coconut milk is an easy meal with no preparation needed, and it

fills me up. One 13.5 ounce can of coconut milk contains 70 grams of

fat (750 calories). To be honest, I did not even notice any weight

loss at first. Weight loss, to me, is secondary compared to keeping

my blood sugar levels in line. But after a year or more, I noticed

the weight loss. The night chills & night sweats began to even out

after about 4 months or so, and practically disappeared after about a

year. I love the taste of coconut milk. Sometimes I use some

coconut oil in cooking, but I much prefer the taste of butter, so I

have not switched over to coconut oil.

Alobar

Re: Low Temp

> Hi Alobar, I find your account especially interesting because I

have

> a low body temperature and your description of the night chills and

> sweats exactly matches my own experience. My blankets are in a

> tangled heap by morning. I have been using coconut oil at 3 1/2 Tbs

> per day for about two months. My temperature has not come up much,

> maybe a few tenths of a degree. Nor have I lost an ounce. Chronic

> Fatigue keeps me from being active. I am a little disappointed at

the

> lack of progress, (increased temp, lower weight) but maybe I am

being

> too impatient, or perhaps should be taking more coconut oil? How

much

> have you been taking? Did you start to lose weight right away, or

did

> it begin slowly? I have not tried coconut milk. What are the

> advantages, compared to coconut oil? Thanks, Laureen

>

> > When I first started reading about coconut oil, I saw a

nifty

> >way to measure my metabolism. I own an accurate digital

> >thermometer for cooking. Almost instant reading. I took my

> >temperature first thing when I woke up with the thermometer in my

> >armpit. Generally the thermometer read 94F or so. After

taking

> >coconut oil daily, or drinking a can of coconut milk, my armpit

> >temperature on waking is now about 96 (sometimes higher) -- which

> >means I am burning more calories.

> >

> > For many years (decades, actually), I would get real cold

> >during the night & need lots of blankets, then sometimes I would

> >sweat heavily & throw off my blankets, then get chilled again.

> >

> > Since I began drinking coconut milk late at night or

eating

> >coconut oil, I no longer get the chills or the night sweats.

Also,

> >with absolutely no calorie counting and no restriction on how much

I

> >ate, I lost about 20 pounds over the past 6 months or so. I am

on a

> >low carb diet because of diabetes (type II), but I eat plenty of

> >calories with butter, meat with all the fat left on, marrow bones,

> >and coconut oil. I suspect if I added more coconut oil, I

would

> >lose more weight -- especially if I cut back some on the butter.

I

> >have begun to drink more coconut oil to see what that does for me

> >over the next six months.

> >

> >Alobar

January 30, 2004

Hello aireph, I had all my mercury removed about year ago. This did

make a difference in my brain fog, but not much for the fatigue. I

was found to have leaky gut and hypercoagulation, which we are

treating. Also, I was tested for candida. We have tried most of the

treatments and currently are treating 's thyroid syndrome

(symptom is low temp) which also can be another cause for the fatigue.

We are talking about a long term treatment with antibiotics because I

tested positive for mycoplasma - very hard little fellows to get rid

of because they can hide in the cells. I am really stalling and

dragging my feet in getting started with this. Because of a mention

of kefir making in this group, I popped on over to the k_m group, and

have just yesterday made my first batch of kefir. I am thinking that

drinking kefir will help me to avoid the threat of candida while I am

taking the antibiotics.

Thank you for your suggestions. I am open to any help, from anywhere.

I prefer to get well with natural treatments, but I haven't heard of

a natural way to get rid of mycoplasma. I am new to coconut oil - I

began to take it because I read that it has antibacterial properties

as well as antiviral and antifungal. I don't know how true this is,

but I am willing to try. It is also said to raise metabolism and

therefore body temp. Coconut oil has many devoted fans. I got much of

my initial information about coconut oil from the tropical traditions

website. Although that was the company that I started with, I do not

recommend their web group or products. This group has many

suggestions about other and better places to get coconut oil.

Good health to you.

Laureen

>Hello Laureen,

>

>From what I understand one of the things Chronic Fatigue is related

>to is having a candida overgrowth. The way to attack this is to

>attack the overgrowth. One way to go is to take Fungal Defense by

>Garden of Life and go on the candida diet. Also, how much amalgum

>do you have in your mouth. The mercury that's in your system from

>amalgum (and worse if you also have gold in your mouth), seems to

>perpetuate the problem.

>

>You probably already know all this, but since I'm new, I thought I'd

>say it anyways.

>

>Just a story about that. A friend of mine with terrible Chronic

>Fatigue was treated by an alternative Doctor on this and one of the

>things he did was have her take all the amalgum/mercury out of your

>mouth (she also has gold, gut that's OK alone). He told her that

>she would not have problems with candida after that, she hasn't

>since, 8 or more years ago. Of course, she hasn't had Chronic

>Fatigue either, as far as I know. I don't know much else about her

>treatment other than that, sorry. And the Doctor that treated her

>is no longer in this area of the country.

>

>I don't mean to sound simplistic. I know there is so much more to

>it, just wish to help.

>

>God bless,

>aireph

>

>> Hi Alobar,

>

>Chronic

>> Fatigue keeps me from being active. I am a little disappointed at

>the

>> lack of progress, (increased temp, lower weight) but maybe I am

>being

>> too impatient, or perhaps should be taking more coconut oil? How

>much

>> have you been taking? Did you start to lose weight right away, or

>did

>> it begin slowly? I have not tried coconut milk. What are the

> > advantages, compared to coconut oil? Thanks, Laureen

>

January 30, 2004

Great information - thank you. What a great idea for the evening

munchies. I have been adding a Tablespoon of coconut oil in the

evening sometimes, but that didn't seem quite enough to satisfy me.

Laureen PS Do you get your coconut milk from Wilderness Family??

> I like to eat 4 meals a day otherwise I get hungry & want to

>snack late at night on foods which are not very good for me. A can

>of coconut milk is an easy meal with no preparation needed, and it

>fills me up. One 13.5 ounce can of coconut milk contains 70 grams of

>fat (750 calories). To be honest, I did not even notice any weight

>loss at first. Weight loss, to me, is secondary compared to keeping

>my blood sugar levels in line. But after a year or more, I noticed

>the weight loss. The night chills & night sweats began to even out

>after about 4 months or so, and practically disappeared after about a

>year. I love the taste of coconut milk. Sometimes I use some

>coconut oil in cooking, but I much prefer the taste of butter, so I

>have not switched over to coconut oil.

>

>Alobar

>

> Re: Low Temp

>

>> Hi Alobar, I find your account especially interesting because I

>have

>> a low body temperature and your description of the night chills and

>> sweats exactly matches my own experience. My blankets are in a

>> tangled heap by morning. I have been using coconut oil at 3 1/2 Tbs

>> per day for about two months. My temperature has not come up much,

>> maybe a few tenths of a degree. Nor have I lost an ounce. Chronic

>> Fatigue keeps me from being active. I am a little disappointed at

>the

>> lack of progress, (increased temp, lower weight) but maybe I am

>being

>> too impatient, or perhaps should be taking more coconut oil? How

>much

>> have you been taking? Did you start to lose weight right away, or

>did

>> it begin slowly? I have not tried coconut milk. What are the

>> advantages, compared to coconut oil? Thanks, Laureen

>>

>> > When I first started reading about coconut oil, I saw a

>nifty

>> >way to measure my metabolism. I own an accurate digital

>> >thermometer for cooking. Almost instant reading. I took my

>> >temperature first thing when I woke up with the thermometer in my

>> >armpit. Generally the thermometer read 94F or so. After

>taking

>> >coconut oil daily, or drinking a can of coconut milk, my armpit

>> >temperature on waking is now about 96 (sometimes higher) -- which

>> >means I am burning more calories.

>> >

>> > For many years (decades, actually), I would get real cold

>> >during the night & need lots of blankets, then sometimes I would

>> >sweat heavily & throw off my blankets, then get chilled again.

>> >

>> > Since I began drinking coconut milk late at night or

>eating

>> >coconut oil, I no longer get the chills or the night sweats.

>Also,

>> >with absolutely no calorie counting and no restriction on how much

>I

>> >ate, I lost about 20 pounds over the past 6 months or so. I am

>on a

>> >low carb diet because of diabetes (type II), but I eat plenty of

>> >calories with butter, meat with all the fat left on, marrow bones,

>> >and coconut oil. I suspect if I added more coconut oil, I

>would

>> >lose more weight -- especially if I cut back some on the butter.

>I

>> >have begun to drink more coconut oil to see what that does for me

>> >over the next six months.

>> >

>> >Alobar

>

January 30, 2004

Re: Low Temp

> Great information - thank you. What a great idea for the evening

> munchies. I have been adding a Tablespoon of coconut oil in the

> evening sometimes, but that didn't seem quite enough to satisfy me.

>

> Laureen PS Do you get your coconut milk from Wilderness Family??

Wilderness Family Naturals makes the absolute best tasting

coconut milk I have ever used. However, my income is seasonal so I

am now using a cheaper brand I get locally from an oriental grocery

store. As soon as I can afford to, I shall be switching back to

Wilderness Family Naturals.

Alobar

January 30, 2004

Hi Laureen. Using natural remedies in place of medicine is a wonderful

decision, to be comended. I am not sure as to a cure for mycoplasya

naturally, but you might take a look on Curezone.com. I love that place! Their

slogan is " Educating instead of Medicating " and it is wonderful community to

share and get information from. You can look in all of the archives for your

particular problem and glean all of the past knowledge as well and see what

others have discovered. In myself, I believe our body can heal all things with

natural God given remedies and I think you will find some very helpful

information there. After you have already read archives and if you still have

questions, posting often yeilds most helpful responses. It is an open forum,

like this, and has forums for so many illnesses. If you post in one and do not

get an answer, try another forum.

After you had your mercury amalgams taken out, did you go through any mercury

detoxification? Colon cleanse, charcoal, chorella, liver cleanse, chelating, or

an infrared sauna? Even the most careful removal will result in some mercury

leakage, and you could still very well be suffering from mercury toxicity if it

was not removed--especially from the brain. Mercury crosses over to the blood

brain barrier and you want to extract it from there. Chlorella, Dr. Schultz's

colon cleanse (which contains activated charcoal) and his Brain formula would be

a great combo. And Dr. Schultz's Superfood contains Chlorella algea, as well as

many other nutrients so you could use it as well. I love his products, he goes

to great lengths to insure they are pure and organic. Curezone has a forum for

him as well.

Could you tell me a little bit about mycoplasya? What sort of germ is it? If I

knew a little bit I might be able recommend the Terminator zapper in

eliminateing it. It did a number on my husbands candida and parisites! He is

fairly healthy, but just wearing the Terminator for one night cleared him up. I

was amazed when we took him to my naturopath who practices AK that he tested

negative for both when he was postive beforehand!

I would recomend at least taking a good strong echinechea tincture (if it

doesn't numb your tongue quite a bit then it is not strong enough). You can make

your own tincture of it quite easily if you'd like. It will usually accomplish

what antibiotics will without injuring your body in other ways, but not always.

If you would like some kefir grains to make kefir so you won't have the

expense of continueing to buy any I would give you some of mine for only the

price of shipping. I have enough to share with two people, if anyone else would

like some as well. Best of luck to your Laureen! Caitlin Lorraine

January 30, 2004

Hello Laureen,

Sorry to hear of your physical problems. I did not mean to be

insentive or simplistic. I have not walked in your mocassins. I'm

glad that you had your mercury removed, I understand that if it's

not done a certain way it can dump a lot of toxins into your body

and make you feel terrible for a long time. That happened to the

friend I told you about.

BTW, I came from the kefir group. This one:

Kefir_making/

Very helpful group of people. I've been kefiring since July. Great

stuff. It would be good for you to drink kefir no matter what, but

especially if you're going through this.

I wish you all the best and hope you don't have to go on the

antibiotics.

God bless,

aireph P.S. Please educate me. What is mycoplasma?

> Hello aireph, I had all my mercury removed about year ago. This

did

> make a difference in my brain fog, but not much for the fatigue. I

> was found to have leaky gut and hypercoagulation, which we are

> treating. Also, I was tested for candida. We have tried most of

the

> treatments and currently are treating 's thyroid syndrome

> (symptom is low temp) which also can be another cause for the

fatigue.

>

> We are talking about a long term treatment with antibiotics

because I

> tested positive for mycoplasma - very hard little fellows to get

rid

> of because they can hide in the cells. I am really stalling and

> dragging my feet in getting started with this. Because of a

mention

> of kefir making in this group, I popped on over to the k_m group,

and

> have just yesterday made my first batch of kefir. I am thinking

that

> drinking kefir will help me to avoid the threat of candida while I

am

> taking the antibiotics.

>

> Thank you for your suggestions. I am open to any help, from

anywhere.

> I prefer to get well with natural treatments, but I haven't heard

of

> a natural way to get rid of mycoplasma. I am new to coconut oil -

I

> began to take it because I read that it has antibacterial

properties

> as well as antiviral and antifungal. I don't know how true this

is,

> but I am willing to try. It is also said to raise metabolism and

> therefore body temp. Coconut oil has many devoted fans. I got much

of

> my initial information about coconut oil from the tropical

traditions

> website. Although that was the company that I started with, I do

not

> recommend their web group or products. This group has many

> suggestions about other and better places to get coconut oil.

>

> Good health to you.

> Laureen

January 30, 2004

Hello Caitlin Lorraine,

What is the Terminator zapper and what does it do? Also, how do you

make echinechea tincture and what are it's uses?

Very interested,

aireph

>Could you tell me a little bit about mycoplasya? What sort of germ

is it? If I knew a little bit I might be able recommend the

Terminator zapper in eliminateing it. It did a number on my husbands

candida and parisites! He is fairly healthy, but just wearing the

Terminator for one night cleared him up. I was amazed when we took

him to my naturopath who practices AK that he tested negative for

both when he was postive beforehand!

> I would recomend at least taking a good strong echinechea

tincture (if it doesn't numb your tongue quite a bit then it is not

strong enough). You can make your own tincture of it quite easily if

you'd like. It will usually accomplish what antibiotics will without

injuring your body in other ways, but not always.

February 2, 2004

A Terminator zapper uses Dr. 's original zapper plans and adds some

improvements to it--it is made for 24/7 zapping, has an earth magnet, crystals,

mobius coil, and an orgone generator besides the normal zapper. I feel that all

of it together makes it much more effective than just the zapper alone. He also

improved upon the frequency and set it at the most effective one. Using the

zapper it kills parisites, fungi and harmful bacteria and helps balance your

body back to a normal ph. Having a the right ph makes it much easier to get

better from any other illnesses--it lays the foundation. The creator of the

Terminator is Don Croft and he has documented it's healing lymphatic cancer,

candida, asthma, and so many other illnesses. For a more complete list you can

take a look at his site, http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com/index.html and can

also read more about it at

http://educate-yourself.org/dc/terminatorinfo12apr02.shtml where they have the

silver terminator that eliminates skin irritations. www.toolsforhealing.com is

the cheapest place to buy the regular one and is where my husband bought me mine

for Christmas. I usually zap all night with the zapper on the bottom of my feet

using a gauze wrap to hold it in place. You can also read more about zapper's at

the zapper forum on curezone.com

Tinctures (or extracts) are very easy to make. There are three things that

will extract the properties out of herbs--apple cider vinegar, achohol, and

water. The easiest way to make your own is use vodka, it has both water and

achohol is a pretty good combination and extracts the healing power of the

herbs. If you are using dried herbs soak it in water overnight as it will absorb

a great deal into it to plump it up, then add your vodka the next morning. You

can make an extract at any time, but it is best to strain your herbs a couple

days before the full moon because they begin to weaken and will be at the

strongest point at that time. If you have any purple coneflower (or any

coneflower plant) that is at least two years old you can dig up the root and

grind it to make your own echinechea. Or if you know of any gardening friends

that might have any, I have two friends around here that let us steal a little

root now and then. They think we are just wanting the plant...I do not really

tell them what I am doing with it. Echinecha augustafolia is the strongest of

them, but I do not remember the particular coneflower it comes from. In any

event, it will still be fairly strong. If you choose to order your own, I like

to order from Southern Pacific Botanicals. I have scoured the house for their

number but cannot find it (ended up sorting & cleaning out the filing cabinet as

I went.... The reasons I like their products are many--they are dried but

still green colored and fresh (I made peppermint tea, the oil was floating on

the top), you can get fresh cut undried herbs, and offer different parts of

different plants to suit the purpose that you need it for. You might could

possibly find the number on the web? I'm not sure, or possibly in searching the

archives of curezone.com, I've seen it mentioned there as well. Anyway, hope

that helps a bit Have a good day, Caitlin Lorraine

What is the Terminator zapper and what does it do? Also, how do you

make echinechea tincture and what are it's uses?

Very interested,

aireph

February 3, 2004

Some active constituents in plant matter are soluble in

water, while others are soluble in oil. Unless one knows what one is

looking to extract, it is hard to guess whether to extract into oil

or water. Alcohol will extract both oil soluble & water soluble

constituents. Alcohol solutions have the added benefit over water

based teas in that alcohol solutions are relatively stable (won't rot

quickly).

If you know that what you are looking to extract is oil

soluble, coconut oil should work fine. In Europe, olive oil is

traditional, but I think coconut oil should work fine. But coconut

oil won't work for putting the water soluble parts of the plant into

solution. When extracting into oil, probably best to use dried

herb, powdered in blender, then mixed well with the oil in the

blender & allowed to sit someplace warm for a week or more. Then

filtered to remove the herb.

Alobar

Re: Re: Low Temp

> Caitlin

>

> I am allergic to alcohol. We have many available herbs here in the

Philippines, how does one draw the valuable minerals/nutrients from

leaves - fresh or dried - using applie cider vinegar (i am highly

acidic too) and water (which i think is best for me). Will boiling

not kill the beneficial nutrients? How about soaking the leaves in

coconut oil? Will that be better than all of the above?

>

> Thanks.

>

February 3, 2004

For using apple cider vinegar just pour it over your herbs, if they are dried

soak them in some water overnight beforehand. If you want to use just water,

teas are the best way (though not the most appetizing if it is a bitter herb).

Boil some water on the stove (not microwave) then turn it off and add your

herbs. Put the lid on it (this really does increase potency) and let it steep

for at least 15 minutes. Teas will not keep as long as tinctures (the achohol

and cider have preserving qualitys--your herbs can last a lifetime in tincture

form), only about a week if kept in the refrigerator--less if on the cabinet

because it sours.

To my knowledge, apple cider vinegar has several different acids, but is

actually alkalanizeing to the body. This is just what I have read a tiny amount

on, so I cannot verify this. I have never had any trouble with taking it myself,

but as you know everyone is different. Also I will mention the cider extracts

taste much worse than the vodka extracts! By itself I have no problem with

cider, but in the two extracts I tried it in (though they were two of the most

bitter) it was very strong.

As to soaking the leaves in coconut oil, I have no idea, never tried that one.

Sounds like it could be a good idea though. You see peppers and spices stored

in olive oil, so it might be a worthwhile experiment.

Caitlin

I am allergic to alcohol. We have many available herbs here in the

Philippines, how does one draw the valuable minerals/nutrients from leaves -

fresh or dried - using applie cider vinegar (i am highly acidic too) and water

(which i think is best for me). Will boiling not kill the beneficial nutrients?

How about soaking the leaves in coconut oil? Will that be better than all of

the above?

Thanks.

February 4, 2004

Thanks Caitlin.