diet

[Guest guest]

There is a group, GFCF kids, that has a lot of activity. You can find

lots of info there.

Pamela

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you're scared. "

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Subject: [ ] diet

I am new here and have not read near all the posts yet, but am working

on it. I am finally convinced to try the chelation treatment and the

gluten free diet. My problem is that there are only about 4 things

Levi will eat and they all contain high levels of gluten. I had always

been told in the past by doctors and nutritionist to let him eat what

he wants and supplement with vitamins. How do I get my son to eat the

right things? Can I let him go hungry,for God knows how long? HELP!

Thank you.

[Guest guest]

They WILL eat,honest. And, you are being a good mom by NOT giving

him the stuff. It just may take a couple of cranky, hungry days.

The basic idea here is that the gluten foods are essentially

addictive. They affect the brain in a way that is intoxicating for

some people. They produce all kinds of inappropriate behaviour, but

also feel satisfying. (It is hypothesized that this has to do with

an opiate connection.)

Cut out the gluten, COMPLETELY, no exceptions. See what happens over

two weeks. He may not eat much for a couple of days, but give him

fruit and healthy things that he likes, potatos, rice pasta (Whole

foods now has Tinkyada pasta, a rice pasta). Don't worry that his

diet is unbalanced for a couple of weeks - it will be well worth it

if you can illuminate what is going on with him.

Be sure you go 100% - some of these kids are incredibly sensitive to

gluten.

The GFCF list will give you an idea of the many products gluten is

hidden.

> >My problem is that there are only about 4 things

> >Levi will eat and they all contain high levels of gluten.

>

> One thing I have heard over and over is that if a child is eating

> only one type of food, the chances are that he is sensitive to that

> particular food. So if he only will eat wheat/dairy then he is

> probably sensitive to them. Once removed, generally these kids

start

> eating all kinds of different things, but I don't know the details

of

> how to get there!

>

>

>

> Stroyan

> www.empathic-discipline.com

> Click here to email me directly:

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[Guest guest]

Just to give our experience: we put our son on GFCF for ten months.

One big issue was food self-selectivity, and I had high hopes that

GFCF would address that, as many claim it will. I was *very careful

with diet, and would have been willing to do it indefinitely.

Initially we got some remarkable gains in behaviour, which faded

within a few months (though better sleep stuck, thankfully). I took

out other foods as per his IgG results, and got a few nice things from

that too. However, none of these things touched my boy's self-

selective food behaviours. At ten months, there were only

two " allowed " foods that he would eat. We were frantic, and

eventually moved on to Houston Enzymes and completely lifted all food

restrictions. In terms of behaviour and cognition he did even better

off GF,CF,SF,EF,Citrus Free, Peanut Free, etc. with enzymes than he

did with dietary resrictions.

Things are not perfect here, gut-wise, and it is always possible that

another diet would help more. I've certainly looked at all available

options. But our restrictive diet experience has really spooked me,

and at this time I'm not willing to try another. We still struggle

mightily with self-selective eating behaviours, it's just that we have

a wider palette of food choices to ward off starvation with.

Enzymes are keeping the wolf from the door, for now.

René

>

> They WILL eat,honest. And, you are being a good mom by NOT giving

> him the stuff. It just may take a couple of cranky, hungry days.

> The basic idea here is that the gluten foods are essentially

> addictive. They affect the brain in a way that is intoxicating for

> some people. They produce all kinds of inappropriate behaviour, but

> also feel satisfying. (It is hypothesized that this has to do with

> an opiate connection.)

[Guest guest]

This is so interesting to me because I know the GFCF part has helped my son, but

it is such a huge pain that I would love to try the Houston's enzymes.

Of those who are doing Houston's enzymes now, I wonder how many did " the diet "

as a family instead of just the vaccine-injured children doing the diet.

We do " the diet " as a family - and would like to hear from others who do, too.

joshisims <joshisims@...> wrote:

Just to give our experience: we put our son on GFCF for ten months.

One big issue was food self-selectivity, and I had high hopes that

GFCF would address that, as many claim it will. I was *very careful

with diet, and would have been willing to do it indefinitely.

Initially we got some remarkable gains in behaviour, which faded

within a few months (though better sleep stuck, thankfully). I took

out other foods as per his IgG results, and got a few nice things from

that too. However, none of these things touched my boy's self-

selective food behaviours. At ten months, there were only

two " allowed " foods that he would eat. We were frantic, and

eventually moved on to Houston Enzymes and completely lifted all food

restrictions. In terms of behaviour and cognition he did even better

off GF,CF,SF,EF,Citrus Free, Peanut Free, etc. with enzymes than he

did with dietary resrictions.

Things are not perfect here, gut-wise, and it is always possible that

another diet would help more. I've certainly looked at all available

options. But our restrictive diet experience has really spooked me,

and at this time I'm not willing to try another. We still struggle

mightily with self-selective eating behaviours, it's just that we have

a wider palette of food choices to ward off starvation with.

Enzymes are keeping the wolf from the door, for now.

René

>

> They WILL eat,honest. And, you are being a good mom by NOT giving

> him the stuff. It just may take a couple of cranky, hungry days.

> The basic idea here is that the gluten foods are essentially

> addictive. They affect the brain in a way that is intoxicating for

> some people. They produce all kinds of inappropriate behaviour, but

> also feel satisfying. (It is hypothesized that this has to do with

> an opiate connection.)

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[Guest guest]

The fact that he self-restricts to gluten foods is a good indication that he

would benefit from the diet.

S S

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Subject: [ ] diet<br>

<br>

I am new here and have not read near all the posts yet, but am working <br>

on it. I am finally convinced to try the chelation treatment and the <br>

gluten free diet. My problem is that there are only about 4 things <br>

Levi will eat and they all contain high levels of gluten. I had always <br>

been told in the past by doctors and nutritionist to let him eat what <br>

he wants and supplement with vitamins. How do I get my son to eat the <br>

right things? Can I let him go hungry,for God knows how long? HELP!<br>

Thank you. <br>

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> Of those who are doing Houston's enzymes now, I wonder how many

did " the diet " as a family instead of just the vaccine-injured

children doing the diet.

Our diet history is first, Feingold -- n and me, and my daughter

and husband cheat if they're out of the house. Then Houston enzymes

(great response). Then SCD -- at first a decent improvement and then

sailed downhill. n is still on enzymes and Feingold, although I

suspect there are some foods he'd do better without. He gets on these

jags, pretty much always about 4-5 foods, though they change every few

months.

Andy has a great post in the files section about how to choose the

diet that's most likely to work for your kid.

Nell

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all of the helpful advice. I appreciate it and so does my

family. I have joined the GFCF group and I have been sitting

here almost non stop for 3 days reading and I am so lost. I am a nurse

and my son Levi who is 7 has a dx of autism. He is high functioning.

I am finally convinced that there is a mercury connection. Where do I

start? What books should I read? Should I start a gfcf diet and get a

toxicity test done on his hair? I am so scared of doing the wrong

thing. I need help, so does Levi.

Thank you!

Sally Logan

[Guest guest]

,

We mostly do the diet as a family, because it makes life simpler and

because my son had a strong emotional reaction to being left out.

These days he has mellowed, and we sometimes eat other food. When I

do that though, I always have to make sure he is having something

that he really likes.

m-Mercury , a b <anothersillyuserid@...> wrote:

>

> This is so interesting to me because I know the GFCF part has

helped my son, but it is such a huge pain that I would love to try

the Houston's enzymes.

>

> Of those who are doing Houston's enzymes now, I wonder how many

did " the diet " as a family instead of just the vaccine-injured

children doing the diet.

>

> We do " the diet " as a family - and would like to hear from others

who do, too.

>

>

>

> joshisims <joshisims@...> wrote:

> Just to give our experience: we put our son on GFCF for

ten months.

> One big issue was food self-selectivity, and I had high hopes that

> GFCF would address that, as many claim it will. I was *very careful

> with diet, and would have been willing to do it indefinitely.

> Initially we got some remarkable gains in behaviour, which faded

> within a few months (though better sleep stuck, thankfully). I took

> out other foods as per his IgG results, and got a few nice things

from

> that too. However, none of these things touched my boy's self-

> selective food behaviours. At ten months, there were only

> two " allowed " foods that he would eat. We were frantic, and

> eventually moved on to Houston Enzymes and completely lifted all

food

> restrictions. In terms of behaviour and cognition he did even

better

> off GF,CF,SF,EF,Citrus Free, Peanut Free, etc. with enzymes than he

> did with dietary resrictions.

>

> Things are not perfect here, gut-wise, and it is always possible

that

> another diet would help more. I've certainly looked at all

available

> options. But our restrictive diet experience has really spooked me,

> and at this time I'm not willing to try another. We still struggle

> mightily with self-selective eating behaviours, it's just that we

have

> a wider palette of food choices to ward off starvation with.

>

> Enzymes are keeping the wolf from the door, for now.

>

> René

>

>

> >

> > They WILL eat,honest. And, you are being a good mom by NOT giving

> > him the stuff. It just may take a couple of cranky, hungry days.

> > The basic idea here is that the gluten foods are essentially

> > addictive. They affect the brain in a way that is intoxicating

for

> > some people. They produce all kinds of inappropriate behaviour,

but

> > also feel satisfying. (It is hypothesized that this has to do

with

> > an opiate connection.)

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Rene,

For the record, we have also found more and more things had to be

eliminated. I'm not sure I understand this, but I think, in part, it

has to do with higher and higher standards for evaluating when he

is " okay. " I know there are a lot of non-food irritants that we now

recognize and didn't used to, things like molds, environmental

chemicals etc. I have chalked it up to a combination of starting

detox, and more accurately assessing his reactions. Don't know for

sure though.

I would definitely have tried enzymes if we didn't have an issue with

so many things. I just couldn't handle adding something in that he

was likely to react to when I was so busy trying to put out all these

other fires. You make me wonder if I missed the forest for the trees

though.

> >

> > They WILL eat,honest. And, you are being a good mom by NOT

giving

> > him the stuff. It just may take a couple of cranky, hungry

days.

> > The basic idea here is that the gluten foods are essentially

> > addictive. They affect the brain in a way that is intoxicating

for

> > some people. They produce all kinds of inappropriate behaviour,

but

> > also feel satisfying. (It is hypothesized that this has to do

with

> > an opiate connection.)

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , comments interspersed...

> For the record, we have also found more and more things had to be

> eliminated. I'm not sure I understand this, but I think, in part,

it

> has to do with higher and higher standards for evaluating when he

> is " okay. " I know there are a lot of non-food irritants that we

now

> recognize and didn't used to, things like molds, environmental

> chemicals etc. I have chalked it up to a combination of starting

> detox, and more accurately assessing his reactions. Don't know for

> sure though.

This sounds plausible to me. The explaination I've heard is that

because our kids have leaky guts, removing problem foods will

temporarily help - until some other food (often a substitute for the

first one) starts making its way through the gut wall. Then it

begins to trigger IgG reactions too. This is why some people choose

to rotate foods, and I think TACA has a really good article by

Ackerman on how to rotate. http://www.tacanow.com/diet.htm However,

another approach that is successful for many is using digestive

enzymes - and in her book and website

http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionleakygut.htm DeFelice talks

about how enzymes can help leaky gut and all of the food

sensitivities that go with it.

>

> I would definitely have tried enzymes if we didn't have an issue

with

> so many things. I just couldn't handle adding something in that he

> was likely to react to when I was so busy trying to put out all

these

> other fires. You make me wonder if I missed the forest for the

trees

> though.

, if the diet is working well for you, great! And if you do

want to try enzymes at some point, you can, but it doesn't have to

happen when you are feeling swamped by all sorts of other

challenges. Starting enzymes was a bit tricky for us because they

can stir things up for a few weeks, but they have *really made a

difference.

take care

René

[Guest guest]

Sally, welcome to Autism Mercury.

there is a really helpful beginner's guide here:

http://www.treatingautism.com/

I would recommend getting a DDI hair elements profile. You may also

want to go to www.noamalgam.com and purchase Andy Cutler's books.

There are two: Hair Test Interpretation will help you evaluate your

son's test to check for mercury toxicity and a lot of other useful

things. Amalgam Illness is a great resource on how to chelate. In

the meantime, the files of this group have lots of great information

on how to chelate safely. There is a supplements file that has Andy's

recommendations for supplements during chelation (look at the end of

the document). It takes a while to get all of the supplements

started, so if you think you might be chelating, you could start on

that now while you are waiting for results. These are generally

helpful supplements for our kids anyhow. As someone already

mentioned, there is also a good file by Andy on how to choose the

right diet for your son.

Take care --

Please feel free to ask lots of questions!

René

In , " Sally Logan " <whatsherface65@...>

wrote:

>

> Thanks for all of the helpful advice. I appreciate it and so does

my

> family. I have joined the GFCF group and I have been sitting

> here almost non stop for 3 days reading and I am so lost. I am a

nurse

> and my son Levi who is 7 has a dx of autism. He is high

functioning.

> I am finally convinced that there is a mercury connection. Where do

I

> start? What books should I read? Should I start a gfcf diet and

get a

> toxicity test done on his hair? I am so scared of doing the wrong

> thing. I need help, so does Levi.

> Thank you!

> Sally Logan

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sally,

Welcome to the list. The DDI hair elements test (to which you then apply the

counting rules) is a good place to start. How many mercury amalgam dental

fillings does your son have? If he has any, they will have to be removed by a

mercury-free dentist using proper protocol before you can safely chelate.

S S

<p>Thanks for all of the helpful advice. I appreciate it and so

does my <br>

family. I have joined the GFCF group and I have been sitting <br>

here almost non stop for 3 days reading and I am so lost. I am a nurse <br>

and my son Levi who is 7 has a dx of autism. He is high functioning. <br>

I am finally convinced that there is a mercury connection. Where do I <br>

start? What books should I read? Should I start a gfcf diet and get a <br>

toxicity test done on his hair? I am so scared of doing the wrong <br>

thing. I need help, so does Levi. <br>

Thank you!<br>

Sally Logan<br>

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Sally,

Get into the files of this list and start reading. Also, Children with Starving

Brains by Mccandleless is good. You can also try the Generation

Rescue website, along with the Autism Research Institute, etc.

Be aware that there are many different protocols people are using now. Yes,

confusing for newbies, but just read first, then ask your questions to the list.

Barb

[ ] Re: diet

Thanks for all of the helpful advice. I appreciate it and so does my

family. I have joined the GFCF group and I have been sitting

here almost non stop for 3 days reading and I am so lost. I am a nurse

and my son Levi who is 7 has a dx of autism. He is high functioning.

I am finally convinced that there is a mercury connection. Where do I

start? What books should I read? Should I start a gfcf diet and get a

toxicity test done on his hair? I am so scared of doing the wrong

thing. I need help, so does Levi.

Thank you!

Sally Logan

[Guest guest]

Diets are as individual as LDN doses and fillers. Not everyone does

best on any one diet...especially if you can not stick to it! To find

a

perfect MS diet, we would have to know what causes MS or it's flair

ups, which we don't. Therefore it stands to reason that the diets

that

make us HEALTHY are the only way to go...and that fluctuates, too.

Personally, I do a detoxifing diet. The book I read was excellent for

explaining HOW our organs work and what their roles are. Then it goes

on to give advice as to what helps and what hurts and WHY. After the

more rigorous first two weeks (for detoxifing), it recommends keeping

a

diary as you add back foods one week at a time. This is so you can

be

aware of any reactions, such as increased fatigue.

The book also recommends certain suppliments and explains what each

one

is for. Most of the recommendations on suppliments, I have also heard

discussed on this board...like L-Cartinine, magnesium and vitamin D.

If

you are interested you can e-mail me and I will give you the name of

the book. I have followed this plan for about a year and it is 'do-

able'.

>

> I read a lot about diets, what is the best diet for ms? Swank is

a

tough

> one.

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/24/2006 3:30:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jcovert1@... writes:

I recently was see by a lyme disease Doctor, I was Dx with MS 2 years ago. I am on copaxone and Ldn (5 Months). He was very good to me and spend about 4 hours with me, in between test. The one thing he tested me for was food allergies. Surprise to me because i am 47 and never thought I had any allergies. I came back postive to dairy, wheat, and yeast. No surprise to the doctor he said many people with MS have some allergy. (dairy being the big one) He wants me off of these for 14 days to see if I have any improvement. I'm on day 4 and yes I do see a improvment. If you have anymore questions please e mail me, I was really surprised by the test he's putting me thu. He feels that a Dx on MS means that they can now treat the symptons, he was to get to the root of the problem and treat that, take care nn

----- Original Message -----

From: lkilcollin@...

low dose naltrexone

Dear nn

Yes I am allergic to all dairy also, this disease has many similarities. (allergy's)

I could eat anything, not now.

Thanks

[Guest guest]

,

I recently was see by a lyme disease Doctor, I was Dx with MS 2 years ago. I am on copaxone and Ldn (5 Months). He was very good to me and spend about 4 hours with me, in between test. The one thing he tested me for was food allergies. Surprise to me because i am 47 and never thought I had any allergies. I came back postive to dairy, wheat, and yeast. No surprise to the doctor he said many people with MS have some allergy. (dairy being the big one) He wants me off of these for 14 days to see if I have any improvement. I'm on day 4 and yes I do see a improvment. If you have anymore questions please e mail me, I was really surprised by the test he's putting me thu. He feels that a Dx on MS means that they can now treat the symptons, he was to get to the root of the problem and treat that, take care nn

[low dose naltrexone] Diet

I read a lot about diets, what is the best diet for ms? Swank is a tough one.

Thanks

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[Guest guest]

---

Please let me know the name of the book that you read. I am

interested in the detox. I have developed two lesions in my spinal

cord that are causing intestinal problems....paralysis etc. I have

been trying some new things like whey protein powdered drink,

Doctor's Green First, Kapp Arrest etc. and they have helped, but

still need more help. thanks, nancy

In low dose naltrexone , " perfectlysunnyday "

<mmmorris@...> wrote:

>

> Diets are as individual as LDN doses and fillers. Not everyone

does

> best on any one diet...especially if you can not stick to it! To

find

> a

> perfect MS diet, we would have to know what causes MS or it's

flair

> ups, which we don't. Therefore it stands to reason that the diets

> that

> make us HEALTHY are the only way to go...and that fluctuates, too.

>

> Personally, I do a detoxifing diet. The book I read was excellent

for

> explaining HOW our organs work and what their roles are. Then it

goes

> on to give advice as to what helps and what hurts and WHY. After

the

> more rigorous first two weeks (for detoxifing), it recommends

keeping

> a

> diary as you add back foods one week at a time. This is so you can

> be

> aware of any reactions, such as increased fatigue.

>

> The book also recommends certain suppliments and explains what

each

> one

> is for. Most of the recommendations on suppliments, I have also

heard

> discussed on this board...like L-Cartinine, magnesium and vitamin

D.

> If

> you are interested you can e-mail me and I will give you the name

of

> the book. I have followed this plan for about a year and it is 'do-

> able'.

>

>

> >

> > I read a lot about diets, what is the best diet for ms? Swank

is

> a

> tough

> > one.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Make sure it is undenatured whey protein powder which raises levels of l-glutithione, the master anti-oxidant. I could fax you an article on its potential value in helping ms. I can look up where I get mine if you are interested. Best, Kathy

[low dose naltrexone] Re: Diet

---Please let me know the name of the book that you read. I am interested in the detox. I have developed two lesions in my spinal cord that are causing intestinal problems....paralysis etc. I have been trying some new things like whey protein powdered drink, Doctor's Green First, Kapp Arrest etc. and they have helped, but still need more help. thanks, nancyIn low dose naltrexone , "perfectlysunnyday" <mmmorris@...> wrote:>> Diets are as individual as LDN doses and fillers. Not everyone does > best on any one diet...especially if you can not stick to it! To find > a > perfect MS diet, we would have to know what causes MS or it's flair > ups, which we don't. Therefore it stands to reason that the diets > that > make us HEALTHY are the only way to go...and that fluctuates, too.> > Personally, I do a detoxifing diet. The book I read was excellent for > explaining HOW our organs work and what their roles are. Then it goes > on to give advice as to what helps and what hurts and WHY. After the > more rigorous first two weeks (for detoxifing), it recommends keeping > a > diary as you add back foods one week at a time. This is so you can > be > aware of any reactions, such as increased fatigue.> > The book also recommends certain suppliments and explains what each > one > is for. Most of the recommendations on suppliments, I have also heard > discussed on this board...like L-Cartinine, magnesium and vitamin D. > If > you are interested you can e-mail me and I will give you the name of > the book. I have followed this plan for about a year and it is 'do-> able'.> > > >> > I read a lot about diets, what is the best diet for ms? Swank is > a > tough > > one.> > > > Thanks> > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

There is an excellent book called "Gut Solutions" by Watkins. L-glutamine in powdered from helps the mucosa lining of the stomach and helps heal leaky gut plus a multitude of additional problems related to the intestines. Make sure you take plenty of oil to facilitate bowel movements and refrigerate those EFAS to prevent oxidation. Best, Kathy

[low dose naltrexone] Re: Diet

---Please let me know the name of the book that you read. I am interested in the detox. I have developed two lesions in my spinal cord that are causing intestinal problems....paralysis etc. I have been trying some new things like whey protein powdered drink, Doctor's Green First, Kapp Arrest etc. and they have helped, but still need more help. thanks, nancyIn low dose naltrexone , "perfectlysunnyday" <mmmorris@...> wrote:>> Diets are as individual as LDN doses and fillers. Not everyone does > best on any one diet...especially if you can not stick to it! To find > a > perfect MS diet, we would have to know what causes MS or it's flair > ups, which we don't. Therefore it stands to reason that the diets > that > make us HEALTHY are the only way to go...and that fluctuates, too.> > Personally, I do a detoxifing diet. The book I read was excellent for > explaining HOW our organs work and what their roles are. Then it goes > on to give advice as to what helps and what hurts and WHY. After the > more rigorous first two weeks (for detoxifing), it recommends keeping > a > diary as you add back foods one week at a time. This is so you can > be > aware of any reactions, such as increased fatigue.> > The book also recommends certain suppliments and explains what each > one > is for. Most of the recommendations on suppliments, I have also heard > discussed on this board...like L-Cartinine, magnesium and vitamin D. > If > you are interested you can e-mail me and I will give you the name of > the book. I have followed this plan for about a year and it is 'do-> able'.> > > >> > I read a lot about diets, what is the best diet for ms? Swank is > a > tough > > one.> > > > Thanks> > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/25/2006 11:05:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ninatorney@... writes:

mmmorris@...>

I would like the name of that book please!

Thanks!- Chriss

[Guest guest]

I am not sure if once you are proven allergic to caesin or whole wheat if you

are supposed to consume any other then ofcourse by sheer accident.

The slow hidden allergic reaction results in behavioral issues but too slower

cognitive processing and sharpness. That's what I've seen anyway.

Alot has changed since the late 90's, now there is Silk Vanilla Soy milk for

cereal, Silk soy smoothies, We all know now we can make these great pizzas using

Goat Cheese...California Pizza Franchise Restaurants carry a goat cheese pizza

too if you like eat in or delivery.

There is even healthy dark choclate bars that contain no milk (a little

pricey...$2.00 a bar). And ofcourse there is the equivalent of Ben and Jerry's

in Dream Rice Rice Cream.

Its come along way.....my kids don't even miss dairy or whole wheat.

cat

Momofmanysix@... wrote:

Any opinions on food allergies? Our daughter shows positive reaction

on the

elisa blood test to many foods. I really don't see a change in her whether

she eats the foods or doesn't. Is this test that reliable? We definately

noticed behavior improvements 5 years ago when we started GFCF. Now she seems to

be able to tolerate both in moderation. How do you determine for sure if kids

shouldn't have certain foods (especially gluten and casein? N.

[Guest guest]

Some kids do not react well to rice milk if made from brown rice

And now a friend told me soy could be a problem for boys anybody hear

of this?

Thanks

> Any opinions on food allergies? Our daughter shows

positive reaction on the

> elisa blood test to many foods. I really don't see a change in her

whether

> she eats the foods or doesn't. Is this test that reliable? We

definately

> noticed behavior improvements 5 years ago when we started GFCF. Now

she seems to

> be able to tolerate both in moderation. How do you determine for

sure if kids

> shouldn't have certain foods (especially gluten and casein? N.

>

>

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Kerry,

I am feeling a bit better now. I

still have that hungry feeling especially after a hard workout. I always

crave the healthy stuff. Chocolate I can take or leave it – I only eat it

on special occasions. I’d rather have an apple than an apple tart. A wee

bit of sugar in muffins is fine, but I don’t like sugary or salty things.

Where I go wrong is eating too much fruit and whole wheat bread. I love rolls

with sunflower seeds and for a snack have been known to eat 2 of them. I do

drink soda (not for the last 5 days though) but mostly because it is there and

it has caffeine. I suppose I could brew some tea and keep it in the fridge but

soda is easier and bottled tea (from the store) tastes horrible to me. Granted

so does soda… I pig out on fruit. Carrots aren’t safe in this

house. And most of the vegetables should run or they will disappear. LOL What I

don’t crave is meat or milk or cheese or eggs. I can take or leave those.

I know I need some protein but I don’t pig out on it like I see some

people do. If I added a bit more protein, subtracted some fruits and got rid of

the soda I would probably have pretty close to the ideal eating habits. It

is only 1 more day now so no problems. I did grab a grapefruit today when I

realized my bf was going to be gone all day (on a Sunday and day 5 of our 6 day

diet when he assured me he would be here so we could finish it out great) It

made me feel better (fruit is like stress food for me I guess, I eat it when I

am upset, unhappy or stressed) But I cheated. Oh well. My normal measure day is

Sunday (today) and I measured and no change from last week. So I guess I’m

not going to lose any inches doing this. I did learn a new way to cook chicken

breasts. If you put them in a pan with a lid in the oven they don’t get

so dried out (I usually pan cook mine in seasonings or olive oil, because of

the whole dried out issue.) They sort of steam like this and can get flavorful

if you add some seasonings or vegetables. I also tried a bit of sesame oil on a

salad and it is fabulous –either plain or mixed with balsamic vinegar.

YUMMY I usually eat my salads plain but this was good. Also we usually only

have salmon, but this week we also had some kind of white fish and some really

good tuna steaks. And they were great. And I’m usually not adventurous

with salads. I use spinach and whatever vegetables are on hand. But adding a

wee bit of fish or meat changes the taste. And broccoli and cauliflower makes a

good salad in itself (found that out when I forgot to buy mixed salad greens)

Also I realized that those packaged salad greens are best if eaten on the same

day. So I am learning tons, but am looking forward to Tuesday when I will

have some fruit and bread for breakfast. A nice vegetable soup for lunch. And

pasta and vegetables for dinner. Along with some snacks like carrots and

peaches and maybe even a roll. And I might even have a glass of fresh

squeezed juice. 1 day left and I survived!

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kerry Kramer

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006

5:31 PM

Subject: Re: I

think I must be crazy

Hi

,

Sometimes

it takes a while for your body to adjust to a new way of eating. Keep

drinking the water. I noticed that your cravings are for healthy foods,

which is good. At least you aren't craving the " bad " stuff like

junk food. I hope this helps your bf. I think it's wonderful you

are doing this together.

Kerry

I have never dieted in my whole life

(I eat relatively healthy so never saw the need too), so I can not believe I am

doing the diet thing. Especially one that is designed for short term (this one

is 6 days) I keep repeating it is only 6 days, only 6 days, only 6 days, but I

am hungry. I keep putting a brave face on it (the reason I am dieting is

because I want to show my bf I appreciate him and if he can diet then I can

too.) I had a smoothie for breakfast, a handful of almonds for a snack, a

turkey spinach salad for lunch and cottage cheese and blueberries for snack. It

doesn’t sound like I would be hungry but I am. But no cheating! Only 6

days, 6 days.. What I want is a whole wheat roll with sunflower seeds and then

some peaches and maybe an apple and some carrots and then maybe a slice of

bread and some pasta. Dinner is 4oz of fish and 2 cups of asparagus. And then

no food until tomorrow. I can do it…..I have drunk a ton of water today

– it doesn’t seem to help the hungry feelings. But if he can do it

I can too!

I figured out his main diet problem

– he doesn’t eat all day and then eats everything in sight from

dinner time to bedtime. He says he is too busy at work to eat. Hopefully this

is something we can work on.

.._,___

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,

Good to hear you are feeling better. I think that's great you always crave healthy stuff. Did you grow up eating healthy foods? Your cravings are far more healthy than the norm, which is great! Although I guess too many rolls can be bad. Bottled tea does taste horrible, the only iced tea our family will drink is Nestea Tropical blend. Do you like hot tea, or flavoured teas? Don't worry about the grapefruit, it doesn't have too many calories, plus it made you feel better, so that is good. I never thought of using sesame oil on a salad, I do like balsamic vinegar and olive oil, so will probably like this as well.

Glad to hear you survived; enjoy your Tuesday feast.

Kerry

Kerry,

I am feeling a bit better now. I still have that hungry feeling especially after a hard workout. I always crave the healthy stuff. Chocolate I can take or leave it – I only eat it on special occasions. I’d rather have an apple than an apple tart. A wee bit of sugar in muffins is fine, but I don’t like sugary or salty things. Where I go wrong is eating too much fruit and whole wheat bread. I love rolls with sunflower seeds and for a snack have been known to eat 2 of them. I do drink soda (not for the last 5 days though) but mostly because it is there and it has caffeine. I suppose I could brew some tea and keep it in the fridge but soda is easier and bottled tea (from the store) tastes horrible to me. Granted so does soda… I pig out on fruit. Carrots aren’t safe in this house. And most of the vegetables should run or they will disappear. LOL What I don’t crave is meat or milk or cheese or eggs. I can take or leave those. I know I need some protein but I don’t pig out on it like I see some people do. If I added a bit more protein, subtracted some fruits and got rid of the soda I would probably have pretty close to the ideal eating habits. It is only 1 more day now so no problems. I did grab a grapefruit today when I realized my bf was going to be gone all day (on a Sunday and day 5 of our 6 day diet when he assured me he would be here so we could finish it out great) It made me feel better (fruit is like stress food for me I guess, I eat it when I am upset, unhappy or stressed) But I cheated. Oh well. My normal measure day is Sunday (today) and I measured and no change from last week. So I guess I’m not going to lose any inches doing this. I did learn a new way to cook chicken breasts. If you put them in a pan with a lid in the oven they don’t get so dried out (I usually pan cook mine in seasonings or olive oil, because of the whole dried out issue.) They sort of steam like this and can get flavorful if you add some seasonings or vegetables. I also tried a bit of sesame oil on a salad and it is fabulous –either plain or mixed with balsamic vinegar. YUMMY I usually eat my salads plain but this was good. Also we usually only have salmon, but this week we also had some kind of white fish and some really good tuna steaks. And they were great. And I’m usually not adventurous with salads. I use spinach and whatever vegetables are on hand. But adding a wee bit of fish or meat changes the taste. And broccoli and cauliflower makes a good salad in itself (found that out when I forgot to buy mixed salad greens) Also I realized that those packaged salad greens are best if eaten on the same day. So I am learning tons, but am looking forward to Tuesday when I will have some fruit and bread for breakfast. A nice vegetable soup for lunch. And pasta and vegetables for dinner. Along with some snacks like carrots and peaches and maybe even a roll. And I might even have a glass of fresh squeezed juice. 1 day left and I survived!

[Guest guest]

In our house junk food was a special occasion

thing, but not really because it was healthier but because it was cheaper. I

remember being able to eat all the apples, carrots and oranges (and bread) I

wanted. And in season fruit was shared equally. Out of season fruit was rare.

When I was growing up fresh fruits and vegetables were cheaper than junk food.

And we always had a selection of frozen vegetables to eat as well. Meals

contained lots of starch (rice, bread, potatoes) and vegetables and a little

bit of meat. Although it was mostly for economical reasons, I learned about

balanced meals and how to make balanced meals (when we started cooking dinners

forgetting a vegetable was Not Done) I think most of the lower middle class ate

that way in the 80’s (when I was growing up) As I grew older we moved

into middle class fully and then had more junk food available but I just didn’t

want it. We did used to eat white bread which I can’t even imagine eating

now. I have cravings for grilled cheese sandwiches which were a sort of comfort

food when I was growing up. And soup too for the same reason. And in season

fruit and vegetables. And as a teen I knew that fatty food would make me fat –

I didn’t lose the last of my “baby fat” until I was 18. And

once on my own I realized fresh fruits, vegetables, starches and beans were

cheaper than meat. Ah ha a savings in the budget and healthy too. Only as

I had my own kids have I started to think this is healthy this isn’t and

mostly because my son can’t take artificial flavors or colors or he acts

autistic. But because we ate mostly healthy growing up, these are the things

that taste good to me (I have a friend who had the opposite reaction – ate

the same as me growing up now can’t get enough of chips and chocolate).

I do like hot tea but most of the time I

sip liquid. For example I will take 1 sip of whatever drink is in the fridge

and put it back. I rarely drink a whole cup of anything so a cup of hot tea

gets wasted, plus I’m lazy – too much work to make tea. I love

herbal teas though. I tend to have a cup in the evening or morning while I read

my email. I think I should make a pot of tea and put it in the fridge. I

used to do that when I was nursing. I bought loose herbs and would mix them or

just have a single one according to what I felt like. The right sort of herbal

tea helps the milk. I have to make it easy though because life is so

busy.

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kerry Kramer

Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006

6:34 AM

Subject: Re:

diet

,

Good to hear you are feeling

better. I think that's great you always crave healthy stuff. Did

you grow up eating healthy foods? Your cravings are far more healthy than

the norm, which is great! Although I guess too many rolls can be

bad. Bottled tea does taste horrible, the only iced tea our family will

drink is Nestea Tropical blend. Do you like hot tea, or flavoured

teas? Don't worry about the grapefruit, it doesn't have too many

calories, plus it made you feel better, so that is good. I never thought

of using sesame oil on a salad, I do like balsamic vinegar and olive oil, so

will probably like this as well.

Glad to hear you survived; enjoy

your Tuesday feast.

Kerry

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