diet

[Guest guest]

Teffy,

I am interested in the same subject. I have read some books on diet and how

it can affect arthritis. However, I find in difficult to fully incorporate what

it says into my everyday routine. I think what we all need is a " medical chef "

to come into our homes for a few weeks, shop with us for food, and teach us how

to make some " low inflammation " meals. Anyone know one out there?

As I am not an expert on the matter, I would refer you to the books. For my

own experience, I have been trying to drastically alter my routine diet as a way

of changing whatever it might be that has caused my inflammation. I figure if I

something has been accumulating in my body over the years where joint

inflammation finally presented itself, I must alter something so that these

toxic agents are not accumulating.

I wanted to start an elimination diet, however, it doesn't let you eat

anything!! I find it very hard. To make some easier changes recently, I have

quit on coffee (I love my coffee!!) and now drink only green tea (supposed to

have lots of antioxidants and good for arthritis). I have stopped eating eggs.

And for meat, I try to eat as much fish as possible (i.e. tuna fish for lunch,

grilled fish for dinner) Salmon, sardines, and other oily fish are excellent

sources of omega 3 fatty acids which are good for reducing inflammation. Other

than that, I have tried to lay off chocolate and eat lots of fruits and

vegetables for snacks and around dinner. Nightshade plants are supposed to be

bad for you.

I don't know what is working and what isn't, because I have done these changes

while I have recently started MTX. I increased to 12.5 mg a week and am also on

mobic 15 mg a day. While I am on these meds I am gradually getting better and

better.

Over this last weekend I did a lot of exercising- biking, playing squash,

walking, lifting weights. On monday I felt better than I have in a long time,

with very little pain. In addition, I have not taken any mobic for the last two

days and have not had any drastic flare-ups (which has happened in the past when

I try to stop the mobic).

To sum up, eat fish, no eggs or coffee, lots of green tea, and exercise when I

can. I don't know if it is helping, but I will keep you informed as I go.

Cheers,

Todd

teffybar91 <teffybar91@...> wrote:

Hi,

i,m really interested in how our diet can affect pa. i would

appreciate any information.

thanks,

teffy

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In a message dated 1/10/2006 6:13:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

tgothelf@... writes:

I have read some books on diet and how it can affect arthritis. However, I

find in difficult to fully incorporate what it says into my everyday routine.

I think what we all need is a " medical chef " to come into our homes for a

few weeks, shop with us for food, and teach us how to make some " low

inflammation " meals. Anyone know one out there?

There is a book called Inflammation Nation that has low inflammation meals

and recipes! The author's first name is floyd, I can't remember his last name

but the book came out about a year ago. It didn't seem that hard to

follow...but I haven't done that diet yet!

[Guest guest]

I tried a lot of diet ideas and supplements, but since the PA comes

and goes it's hard to tell what caused what. I do believe that

exercise does make a difference. It seemed that the more biking that

I did the better I felt. Stretching too.

> Hi,

> i,m really interested in how our diet can affect pa. i would

> appreciate any information.

> thanks,

> teffy

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/10/2006 10:13:55 AM Central Standard Time,

cjmy3454@... writes:

I am new at this

Does anyone know anything about foods I should stay away from?

I have noticed that cheeses and especially wines will get all my joints

to flare up.

, i dont know much about this but i was told tomatoes can cause a

flare up i think. You may just have to monitor your diet and wean out the foods

that make your joints swell. HUGS hope you can figure it out soon.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Our bodies are all different. Anything that you notice as a troublesome

food is something to take seriously and eliminate it if you can.

I'm sensitive to dairy, wheat, and yeast.

Sierra

>

> I am new at this

> Does anyone know anything about foods I should stay away from?

> I have noticed that cheeses and especially wines will get all my

joints

> to flare up.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

hey, .

Some of the same stuff that causes migraines causes flares. Aged cheeses,

wines, anything dried or processed with sulfur--figs, and most dried fruit--that

stuff all has sulfur and/or nitrites in it. For some, its always a no-no.Sorry

Jane

snowdrift52003 <snowdrift52003@...> wrote:

Hi ,

Our bodies are all different. Anything that you notice as a troublesome

food is something to take seriously and eliminate it if you can.

I'm sensitive to dairy, wheat, and yeast.

Sierra

>

> I am new at this

> Does anyone know anything about foods I should stay away from?

> I have noticed that cheeses and especially wines will get all my

joints

> to flare up.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's the pits isn't it. Sorry, I had a bad day today. Maybe tomorrow won't be so

bad.

Thanks for your input. How long have you had it? I was diagnosed about one

year ago.

snowdrift52003 <snowdrift52003@...> wrote:

Hi ,

Our bodies are all different. Anything that you notice as a troublesome

food is something to take seriously and eliminate it if you can.

I'm sensitive to dairy, wheat, and yeast.

Sierra

>

> I am new at this

> Does anyone know anything about foods I should stay away from?

> I have noticed that cheeses and especially wines will get all my

joints

> to flare up.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Jane;

I am not that sorry to have to give up some foods, not even cheeses, my

favorite foods. As I said to my son, I gladly give that up and be pain free or

almost and go on with my life.

What I am p-o'd at the 2 doctors I've consulted about RA, they ever said a

word about diet.

Just wondering. Since these flare-ups seemed to be triggered by food

allergies or sensitivities, did any of you ever take benadryl, an antihistamine?

Somehow when I do, the pain seems to be less, or am I just imagining that ....

wishful thinking.

Take care.

Bargeman <mtbargeman30@...> wrote:

hey, .

Some of the same stuff that causes migraines causes flares. Aged cheeses,

wines, anything dried or processed with sulfur--figs, and most dried fruit--that

stuff all has sulfur and/or nitrites in it. For some, its always a no-no.Sorry

Jane

snowdrift52003 <snowdrift52003@...> wrote:

Hi ,

Our bodies are all different. Anything that you notice as a troublesome

food is something to take seriously and eliminate it if you can.

I'm sensitive to dairy, wheat, and yeast.

Sierra

>

> I am new at this

> Does anyone know anything about foods I should stay away from?

> I have noticed that cheeses and especially wines will get all my

joints

> to flare up.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Have you tried " Vegie Shreds " ? A good product that looks and behaves

like shredded cheese. Melts well. Comes in cheddar and motzarella. (A

soy product.)

Sierra

> >

> > I am new at this

> > Does anyone know anything about foods I should stay away from?

> > I have noticed that cheeses and especially wines will get all my

> joints

> > to flare up.

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

No, Benadryl is an antihistamine used to treat allergies and prevent allergic

flares in some cases. That is not in your head.

Jane

" C. Y. " <cjmy3454@...> wrote:

Thanks, Jane;

I am not that sorry to have to give up some foods, not even cheeses, my

favorite foods. As I said to my son, I gladly give that up and be pain free or

almost and go on with my life.

What I am p-o'd at the 2 doctors I've consulted about RA, they ever said a

word about diet.

Just wondering. Since these flare-ups seemed to be triggered by food

allergies or sensitivities, did any of you ever take benadryl, an antihistamine?

Somehow when I do, the pain seems to be less, or am I just imagining that ....

wishful thinking.

Take care.

Bargeman <mtbargeman30@...> wrote:

hey, .

Some of the same stuff that causes migraines causes flares. Aged cheeses,

wines, anything dried or processed with sulfur--figs, and most dried fruit--that

stuff all has sulfur and/or nitrites in it. For some, its always a no-no.Sorry

Jane

snowdrift52003 <snowdrift52003@...> wrote:

Hi ,

Our bodies are all different. Anything that you notice as a troublesome

food is something to take seriously and eliminate it if you can.

I'm sensitive to dairy, wheat, and yeast.

Sierra

>

> I am new at this

> Does anyone know anything about foods I should stay away from?

> I have noticed that cheeses and especially wines will get all my

joints

> to flare up.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

No, Benadryl is an antihistamine used to treat allergies and prevent allergic

flares in some cases. That is not in your head.

Jane

" C. Y. " <cjmy3454@...> wrote:

Thanks, Jane;

I am not that sorry to have to give up some foods, not even cheeses, my

favorite foods. As I said to my son, I gladly give that up and be pain free or

almost and go on with my life.

What I am p-o'd at the 2 doctors I've consulted about RA, they ever said a

word about diet.

Just wondering. Since these flare-ups seemed to be triggered by food

allergies or sensitivities, did any of you ever take benadryl, an antihistamine?

Somehow when I do, the pain seems to be less, or am I just imagining that ....

wishful thinking.

Take care.

Bargeman <mtbargeman30@...> wrote:

hey, .

Some of the same stuff that causes migraines causes flares. Aged cheeses,

wines, anything dried or processed with sulfur--figs, and most dried fruit--that

stuff all has sulfur and/or nitrites in it. For some, its always a no-no.Sorry

Jane

snowdrift52003 <snowdrift52003@...> wrote:

Hi ,

Our bodies are all different. Anything that you notice as a troublesome

food is something to take seriously and eliminate it if you can.

I'm sensitive to dairy, wheat, and yeast.

Sierra

>

> I am new at this

> Does anyone know anything about foods I should stay away from?

> I have noticed that cheeses and especially wines will get all my

joints

> to flare up.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Never heard of it. I'll make sure to look for it the next time I go shopping.

Thanks.

snowdrift52003 <snowdrift52003@...> wrote:

Have you tried " Vegie Shreds " ? A good product that looks and behaves

like shredded cheese. Melts well. Comes in cheddar and motzarella. (A

soy product.)

Sierra

> >

> > I am new at this

> > Does anyone know anything about foods I should stay away from?

> > I have noticed that cheeses and especially wines will get all my

> joints

> > to flare up.

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

I was just told not to drink alcohol. They didn't tell me not to eat certain foods, but I feel sure that we shouldn't eat things that are difficult to digest, and antioxidants are supposed to help. We drink green tea a lot, and there are other herbs that are helpful, but when I asked my doctor, he just told me that there was no medical evidence to prove that these do any good. I felt like he just wanted for me to do the interferon treatment. I'm not sure if it is for the money, or if it was really true. I am going to a different doctor next month, because I really didn't feel comfortable with him.delynn2211 <delynn2211@...> wrote: is there any kind of foods i need to stay away from. i am hearing where lots of water is required. not a problem there as i drink lots anyway. are there any foods that i need to eat

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Morning DeLynne, I have alot more info on my website about whats good to eat and what not. Its best to eat fresh fruits and veggies as much as possible. Avoid processed & fast foods and Dairy as much as you can. That means french fries, sodas, micro-waved foods too. Red meat is really really hard to digest - it takes like 17 hours to completely digest red meat - so that takes up energy that could be used building up your immune system. Less stress on your

liver. I eat more greens - and add things like Spirulina Smoothies to my diet every morning. I can send you the recipe if you like and I have it printed there on my website. Avoid sugars & fried foods as much as you can. Even juice is loaded with sugar - so I put Rice Milk on my cereal todayl and into my smoothie mix. I drink tons of herbal teas and my favorites today are the Super Antioxidant YOGI Green Tea or a Red Rooibos tea - the Red Rooibos was written up in the LA Times as a proven Anti-viral!!! Anti-viral means that it stimulates the T-Cells. More greens More fresh veggies More fresh fruit Salmon Chicken Turkey Brown Rice Salads Fresh Salad Dressing Lemon in your Drinking Water Herbal Tea Hope this helps! Love, http://alternativehopeforhepc.com Like flashes of Spiritual lightning, there are moments when the clear perception of immortality shines through, full of peace and joy, and an unforgettable sense of who we really are. ALTERNATIVE HOPE FOR HEP c http://alternativehopeforhepc.com ALTERNATIVE HOPE EPFX/SCIO http://alternativehopeepfx.com Q2 Energy Machine http://alternativehopeQ2energy.com

[Guest guest]

>

> Doing quite well. I made a salad dressing using stevia as the

sweetner. Did quite well and it tasted so well. I was not sure if I

could eat something raw.

==>If your digestion is okay raw veggies are okay, but nutrients in

some veggies are increased by cooking especially greens.

>

> Sleep is good and usually after I take care of my grandkids my

muscles> are so tight and the chiropractor told me that my muscles

are so> relaxed and not tight. So that is a big plus.

>

> I have good energy as well.

==>, that great you are doing so much better. Keep up the

good work!

>

> I think with any of us, you just have to find out what works for

> yourself and stick to it.Bees program is wonderful and we all need

> support and here we can find it.

>

> Eating olive oil and lard seems to be working for me as coconut oil

> does not work for me. Eating salmon also is helpful. So not craving

> fat as much anymore,but after I eat I seem to not be full enough and

> need to top off my meal with something else. I guess coming away

from the table it is ok to stay a little hungry rather than to be so

full overstuffed.

==>At some point you would do best having coconut oil, starting with

1/2 teaspoon and gradually increasing it. That's good you are

increasing your other fats however. Well done .

Hugs, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

I made a salad dressing using stevia as the sweetner.

>> Please send the recipe!!!!!<<

I have good energy as well.

>>Isn't it a wonderful feeling !!! <<

I think with any of us, you just have to find out what works for yourself and

stick to it. Bees program is wonderful and we all need support and here we can

find it.

>> I must agree,, Not every plan works for everyone!! I do also agree about

the support here.. Most people I tell about my condition definately need more

education! LOL I am just the one to do it while I have them captive! LOL <<

I guess coming away from the table it is ok to stay a little hungry rather than

to be so full overstuffed.

>>this is the best way to deal with any situation.. How do you feel when you

are overstuffed?? Don't like that feeling do you? then why would we do that to

ourselves?? <<

HUGS Have a great day.

Find a way to make someone SMILE today!

Cory

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[Guest guest]

,

Thanks for detailing this for us. It's hard for me to imagine life

without grains, but if calorie-counting doesn't work for me, I'm

going to give it a try.

Jessie

>

> I have had great success when I completely eliminate all grains

and all starchy vegetables, and sugar. So, no pasta, bread, candy,

potatoes, rice, crackers, etc. I eat lots of chicken and fish and

big cobb salads with lots of chopped veggies, romaine lettuce, baby

spinach, cabbage, olive oil and vinegar dressings. I limit my

fruits to strawberries and blueberries, and only one or two small

servings of those a day. I eat lots of broccoli, asparagus, bell

peppers, zucchini - all stir fried or steamed with no breading. Add

a little olive oil and parmesan cheese, and it tastes great.

>

> When I stick to this, the sugar cravings go away after a couple

of weeks, and I don't want sugar and starches anymore. My energy

level is higher. My head is clearer. I feel good. As soon as I

cheat, the cravings come back, and my mood starts to sink, and I get

tired and anxious and depressed.

>

> It's hard to get started, and the first couple weeks are a

bitch. But once I'm on the wagon, it's easy to stay there. It

helps that my husband is on the same diet. If there was junk food

in the house, I would not be able to resist eating it.

>

> Shopping is easy. Just shop the perimeter - dairy to

meat/chicken/fish to produce. Drink water. I only cut through the

aisles for olive oil.

>

> It works for me. Even before treatment, eating this way

significantly decreased all my Lyme symptoms (and lost those

annoying extra pounds).

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I wanted to thank you for posting this- I copied it off and showed

it to my son. Hopefully he will realize it's not just me talking and

start to eat better so we can get ahead of this stuff- This is what

is a big obstacle for him

Thanks Rose Marie

>

>

> >

> > I have had great success when I completely eliminate all grains

> and all starchy vegetables, and sugar. So, no pasta, bread,

candy,

> potatoes, rice, crackers, etc. I eat lots of chicken and fish and

> big cobb salads with lots of chopped veggies, romaine lettuce,

baby

> spinach, cabbage, olive oil and vinegar dressings. I limit my

> fruits to strawberries and blueberries, and only one or two small

> servings of those a day. I eat lots of broccoli, asparagus, bell

> peppers, zucchini - all stir fried or steamed with no breading.

Add

> a little olive oil and parmesan cheese, and it tastes great.

> >

> > When I stick to this, the sugar cravings go away after a

couple

> of weeks, and I don't want sugar and starches anymore. My energy

> level is higher. My head is clearer. I feel good. As soon as I

> cheat, the cravings come back, and my mood starts to sink, and I

get

> tired and anxious and depressed.

> >

> > It's hard to get started, and the first couple weeks are a

> bitch. But once I'm on the wagon, it's easy to stay there. It

> helps that my husband is on the same diet. If there was junk food

> in the house, I would not be able to resist eating it.

> >

> > Shopping is easy. Just shop the perimeter - dairy to

> meat/chicken/fish to produce. Drink water. I only cut through

the

> aisles for olive oil.

> >

> > It works for me. Even before treatment, eating this way

> significantly decreased all my Lyme symptoms (and lost those

> annoying extra pounds).

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You're welcome.

These days, I usually keep quiet about my diet - people just assume I'm caught

up in the Atkins craze and ignore me.

I've been cheating a bit for a couple months, and feeling worse, and my blood

sugar is heading in the wrong direction. So I'm back on the wagon, and already

feeling a whole lot better.

Good luck to you and your son.

fancy1413 <fancy1413@...> wrote:

I wanted to thank you for posting this- I copied it off and showed

it to my son. Hopefully he will realize it's not just me talking and

start to eat better so we can get ahead of this stuff- This is what

is a big obstacle for him

Thanks Rose Marie

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Jessie,

The _Protein Power Lifeplan_ by and Dan Eades (both MDs) is a

really good primer on this sort of diet. It has tons of information on

supplements and what they do, all in plain English. They have a BB at

http://proteinpower.com/forum/. I've never tried it, but it looks like a good

place to ask questions.

The book has a whole chapter on magnesium. It sure was an eye-opener for

me - bye, bye migraines.

Best,

Jessie MacMillan <jessiemacmillan@...> wrote: ,

Thanks for detailing this for us. It's hard for me to imagine life

without grains, but if calorie-counting doesn't work for me, I'm

going to give it a try.

Jessie

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[Guest guest]

Your comment about magnesium is interesting. I have Restless Legs

Syndrome and magnesium was the first thing to help and I continue to

take it. I thought my migraines went away with menopause, but now

I'm wondering if it's the magnesium.

Jessie

,

>

> Thanks for detailing this for us. It's hard for me to imagine life

> without grains, but if calorie-counting doesn't work for me, I'm

> going to give it a try.

>

> Jessie

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/16/2006 7:43:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

ponyrubs@... writes:

The book has a whole chapter on magnesium. It sure was an eye-opener for

me - bye, bye migraines.

,

Could you please give a few tips on this? We are moving and I can't buy the

book right now, but migranes are a huge problem and any summary you can

write would be much appreciated!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/16/2006 9:42:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

jessiemacmillan@... writes:

Your comment about magnesium is interesting. I have Restless Legs

Syndrome and magnesium was the first thing to help and I continue to

take it. I thought my migraines went away with menopause, but now

I'm wondering if it's the magnesium.

Jessie,

Could you please explain what type of magnesium you are taking and the dose?

My daughter has terrible Restless Legs and migranes and we've tried

supplementing w/ magnesium but nothing is helping so far. Thanks

[Guest guest]

Sadly, I've loaned the book and don't have it...

I don't remember dosage, but I think 800 mg/day was recommended for

maintenance - not sure how much more for deficiency - probably 1200, but not

sure. I remember that blood tests for Mg deficiency are kinda useless, as the

body will rob the tissues in order to keep blood levels up. So if you test,

you have to test actual tissue by doing a cheek scraping.

Take it in a chelated form for better absorption - Magnesium Citrate or

Malate or Aspartate. But read the label carefully to be sure you are getting

enough actual magnesium. Like, 800 mg of Calcium Aspartate may have 400 mg of

Mg and 400 mg of Aspartate (not accurate numbers, but you get the idea). So

you'd need to take double.

The elemental form, like Magnesium Oxide, is less well absorbed, but

immediately useful upon absorption, so it's not a bad idea to take both.

Do not take it with calcium. If you supplement calcium, take them several

hours apart. Ca & Mg are absorbed through the same ion channels, and the body

absorbs Ca preferentially to Mg, so if you take them together, the Mg will

mostly be flushed.

That's about all I can remember right now. I know that Mg is helpful in the

release process of muscles, which is why it helps migraines. If the smooth

muscles lining the blood vessels are held in contraction, the vessels have a

smaller opening, which can limit circulation and raise blood pressure. Many

people experience a lowering of blood pressure when taking magnesium, so if

you're on BP meds, it's a good idea to monitor, and let your doc know if you

think you need to cut back on the dosage.

Hope this helps. I get the best deals on Mg from Vitamin World. They

have a website - think it's vitaminworld.com, but don't have time to look right

now. (This dial-up is pitiful.)

TUESDAYMT@... wrote:

,

Could you please give a few tips on this? We are moving and I can't buy the

book right now, but migranes are a huge problem and any summary you can

write would be much appreciated!

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info and for other responses to my questions about magnesium