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Please explain why you should take an amino acid complex whenever you take a

single amino acid ? what are the reasons ?

Regards

.

Re: [ ] OT-Tryptophan and B12 shots-anyone have any

experience with either of these?

,

I would recommend taking a balanced amino acid complex whenever taking a

single amino acid. Was the recommendation for tryptophan 5-HTP? There

should be a lot more information coming from an amino acid test than just

B12 and tryptophan. You could check this page on my site for more

information on amino acids

http://www.carbonbased.com/AminoAcids.htm

In health,

Mark Schauss

www.cellmatewellness.com

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> I would recommend taking a balanced amino acid complex whenever

taking a

> single amino acid.

I would say it depends on what you are trying to accomplish. There

are lots of circumstances where you are using the amino acids in an

allopathic or orthomolecular sense and DO want to give them without

anything else to compete with them.

Andy

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Andy is right that there are numerous circumstances where single amino acids

are okay without taking anything else at the time. There are a number,

especially the branched chain aminos (Leucine, Isoleucine and Valine) that

shouldn't be taken alone. What my concern is with amino acids is that even

the safer ones like Taurine are taken for a long period of time without

making sure that the balance of the other aminos and co-factors are

competent. Taking glycine for a long period of time without assessing the

competency of serine may cause imbalances in this important metabolic

pathway.

In health,

Mark Schauss

www.cellmatewellness.com

Re: [ ]Amino Acids/Mark

> > I would recommend taking a balanced amino acid complex whenever

> taking a

> > single amino acid.

>

> I would say it depends on what you are trying to accomplish. There

> are lots of circumstances where you are using the amino acids in an

> allopathic or orthomolecular sense and DO want to give them without

> anything else to compete with them.

>

> Andy

>

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been remo

>

>

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<P> The most complete amino acid profiles for the

least amount of $$ is lactose-free whey protein

concentrate. Easy to digest and assimilate.

<P>Respectfully,

<P>Mike Menkes, LMT

<P> & nbsp; <B><I>Mark Schauss

& lt;schauss@... & gt;</I></B> wrote:

<BLOCKQUOTE style= " PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:

5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid " ><TT>Andy is right

that there are numerous circumstances where single

amino acids<BR>are okay without taking anything else

at the time. & nbsp; There are a number,<BR>especially

the branched chain aminos (Leucine, Isoleucine and

Valine) that<BR>shouldn't be taken alone. & nbsp; What

my concern is with amino acids is that even<BR>the

safer ones like Taurine are taken for a long period of

time without<BR>making sure that the balance of the

other aminos and co-factors are<BR>competent. & nbsp;

Taking glycine for a long period of time without

assessing the<BR>competency of serine may cause

imbalances in this important

metabolic<BR>pathway.<BR><BR>In health,<BR>Mark

Schauss<BR>www.cellmatewellness.com<BR><BR>-----

Original Message -----<BR>From:

& lt;AndyCutler@... & gt;<BR>To:

& lt; & gt;<BR>Sent:

Sunday, June 10, 2001 10:30 AM<BR>Subject: Re:

[ ]Amino Acids/Mark<BR><BR><BR> & gt;

& gt; & nbsp; & nbsp; I would recommend taking a balanced

amino acid complex whenever<BR> & gt; taking a<BR> & gt;

& gt; & nbsp; & nbsp; single amino acid.<BR> & gt;<BR> & gt; I

would say it depends on what you are trying to

accomplish. & nbsp; There<BR> & gt; are lots of

circumstances where you are using the amino acids in

an<BR> & gt; allopathic or orthomolecular sense and DO

want to give them without<BR> & gt; anything else to

compete with them.<BR> & gt;<BR> & gt;

Andy<BR> & gt;<BR> & gt; & gt;<BR> & gt; & gt;<BR> & gt;

& gt;<BR> & gt; & gt; [Non-text portions of this message

have been remo<BR> & gt;<BR> & gt;<BR> & gt;

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Lactose-free does not necessarily mean casein-free for gfcf folks.

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On Mon, 11 June 2001, Mike Menkes wrote:

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> & lt;P & gt; The most complete amino acid profiles for the<BR>

> least amount of $$ is lactose-free whey protein<BR>

> concentrate. Easy to digest and assimilate.<BR>

> & lt;P & gt;Respectfully,<BR>

> & lt;P & gt;Mike Menkes, LMT<BR>

> & lt;P & gt; & amp;nbsp; & lt;B & gt; & lt;I & gt;Mark Schauss<BR>

> & amp;lt;schauss@... & amp;gt; & lt;/I & gt; & lt;/B & gt; wrote: <BR>

> & lt;BLOCKQUOTE style= & quot;PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:<BR>

> 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid & quot; & gt; & lt;TT & gt;Andy is right<BR>

> that there are numerous circumstances where single<BR>

> amino acids & lt;BR & gt;are okay without taking anything else<BR>

> at the time. & amp;nbsp; There are a number, & lt;BR & gt;especially<BR>

> the branched chain aminos (Leucine, Isoleucine and<BR>

> Valine) that & lt;BR & gt;shouldn't be taken alone. & amp;nbsp; What<BR>

> my concern is with amino acids is that even & lt;BR & gt;the<BR>

> safer ones like Taurine are taken for a long period of<BR>

> time without & lt;BR & gt;making sure that the balance of the<BR>

> other aminos and co-factors are & lt;BR & gt;competent. & amp;nbsp;<BR>

> Taking glycine for a long period of time without<BR>

> assessing the & lt;BR & gt;competency of serine may cause<BR>

> imbalances in this important<BR>

> metabolic & lt;BR & gt;pathway. & lt;BR & gt; & lt;BR & gt;In health, & lt;BR & gt;Mark<BR>

> Schauss & lt;BR & gt;www.cellmatewellness.com & lt;BR & gt; & lt;BR & gt;-----<BR>

> Original Message ----- & lt;BR & gt;From:<BR>

> & amp;lt;AndyCutler@... & amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt;To:<BR>

> & amp;lt; & amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt;Sent:<BR>

> Sunday, June 10, 2001 10:30 AM & lt;BR & gt;Subject: Re:<BR>

> [ ]Amino Acids/Mark & lt;BR & gt; & lt;BR & gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt;<BR>

> & amp;gt; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; I would recommend taking a balanced<BR>

> amino acid complex whenever & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; taking a & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt;<BR>

> & amp;gt; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; single amino

acid. & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; I<BR>

> would say it depends on what you are trying to<BR>

> accomplish. & amp;nbsp; There & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; are lots of<BR>

> circumstances where you are using the amino acids in<BR>

> an & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; allopathic or orthomolecular sense and DO<BR>

> want to give them without & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; anything else to<BR>

> compete with them. & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt;<BR>

> Andy & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt;

& amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt;<BR>

> & amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; [Non-text portions of this message<BR>

> have been remo & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt;<BR>

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> <BLOCKQUOTE style= " PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:

> 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid " ><TT>Andy is right

> that there are numerous circumstances where single

> amino acids<BR>are okay without taking anything else

> at the time. & nbsp; There are a number,<BR>especially

> the branched chain aminos (Leucine, Isoleucine and

> Valine) that<BR>shouldn't be taken alone. & nbsp; What

> my concern is with amino acids is that even<BR>the

> safer ones like Taurine are taken for a long period of

> time without<BR>making sure that the balance of the

> other aminos and co-factors are<BR>competent. & nbsp;

> Taking glycine for a long period of time without

> assessing the<BR>competency of serine may cause

> imbalances in this important

> metabolic<BR>pathway.<BR><BR>In health,<BR>Mark

> Schauss<BR>www.cellmatewellness.com<BR><BR>-----

> Original Message -----<BR>From:

> AndyCutler@a...<BR>To:

> @y...<BR>Sent:

> Sunday, June 10, 2001 10:30 AM<BR>Subject: Re:

> [ ]Amino Acids/Mark<BR><BR><BR> & gt;

> & gt; & nbsp; & nbsp; I would recommend taking a balanced

> amino acid complex whenever<BR> & gt; taking a<BR> & gt;

> & gt; & nbsp; & nbsp; single amino acid.<BR> & gt;<BR> & gt; I

> would say it depends on what you are trying to

> accomplish. & nbsp; There<BR> & gt; are lots of

> circumstances where you are using the amino acids in

> an<BR> & gt; allopathic or orthomolecular sense and DO

> want to give them without<BR> & gt; anything else to

> compete with them.<BR> & gt;<BR> & gt;

> Andy<BR> & gt;<BR> & gt; & gt;<BR> & gt; & gt;<BR> & gt;

> & gt;<BR> & gt; & gt; [Non-text portions of this message

> have been remo<BR> & gt;<BR> & gt;<BR> & gt;

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> Andy is right that there are numerous circumstances where single

amino acids

> are okay without taking anything else at the time. There are a

number,

> especially the branched chain aminos (Leucine, Isoleucine and

Valine) that

> shouldn't be taken alone. What my concern is with amino acids is

that even

> the safer ones like Taurine are taken for a long period of time

without

> making sure that the balance of the other aminos and co-factors are

> competent. Taking glycine for a long period of time without

assessing the

> competency of serine may cause imbalances in this important

metabolic

> pathway.

I am curious what might happen in these particular cases.

Andy

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> So how many thousands of dollars more do we have to spend to figure

> this out?

none.

>I'm pretty much done in just with the testing and supplement costs,

>to say nothing of travel!

Yup. Things can get pretty pricey. This is one of the major reasons

for people to take responsibility for trying to figure it out and

managing their own/their kid's case - going to the doc a lot is

EXPENSIVE as well as time consuming. Putting the time into figuring

it out yourself makes the expense less as you see the doc less, AND

you ask for more useful stuff out of the doc than otherwise, so your

dollars go further.

You can buy an awful lot of supplments for one doctor's visit.

Consider the cost of just trying stuff to see if it helps versus

seeing the doc for all supplement suggestions.

Testing is mostly over once a good diagnosis is arrived at.

>And how much does this change from hour to hour?

Depends on who you ask.

> Barb

> Re: [ ]Amino Acids/Mark

>

>

> >Andy is right that there are numerous circumstances where single

amino

> acids

> >are okay without taking anything else at the time. There are a

number,

> >especially the branched chain aminos (Leucine, Isoleucine and

Valine) that

> >shouldn't be taken alone. What my concern is with amino acids is

that even

> >the safer ones like Taurine are taken for a long period of time

without

> >making sure that the balance of the other aminos and co-factors are

> >competent. Taking glycine for a long period of time without

assessing the

> >competency of serine may cause imbalances in this important

metabolic

> >pathway.

> >

> >In health,

> >Mark Schauss

> >www.cellmatewellness.com

> >

> > Re: [ ]Amino Acids/Mark

> >

> >

> >> > I would recommend taking a balanced amino acid complex

whenever

> >> taking a

> >> > single amino acid.

> >>

> >> I would say it depends on what you are trying to accomplish.

There

> >> are lots of circumstances where you are using the amino acids in

an

> >> allopathic or orthomolecular sense and DO want to give them

without

> >> anything else to compete with them.

> >>

> >> Andy

> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been remo

> >>

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So how many thousands of dollars more do we have to spend to figure this

out? I'm pretty much done in just with the testing and supplement costs, to

say nothing of travel! And how much does this change from hour to hour?

Barb

Re: [ ]Amino Acids/Mark

>Andy is right that there are numerous circumstances where single amino

acids

>are okay without taking anything else at the time. There are a number,

>especially the branched chain aminos (Leucine, Isoleucine and Valine) that

>shouldn't be taken alone. What my concern is with amino acids is that even

>the safer ones like Taurine are taken for a long period of time without

>making sure that the balance of the other aminos and co-factors are

>competent. Taking glycine for a long period of time without assessing the

>competency of serine may cause imbalances in this important metabolic

>pathway.

>

>In health,

>Mark Schauss

>www.cellmatewellness.com

>

> Re: [ ]Amino Acids/Mark

>

>

>> > I would recommend taking a balanced amino acid complex whenever

>> taking a

>> > single amino acid.

>>

>> I would say it depends on what you are trying to accomplish. There

>> are lots of circumstances where you are using the amino acids in an

>> allopathic or orthomolecular sense and DO want to give them without

>> anything else to compete with them.

>>

>> Andy

>>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been remo

>>

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<P> Andy: For your scientific information, & nbsp;ALL

proteins have sulfur, even the singles that you

recommend. As far as whey protein being 'life

threatening,' I suggest you STUDY the & nbsp;immune

system-enhancing IMMUNOGLOBULINS contained within whey

protein concentrate. Cancer patients, burn victims,

AIDS patients, and diabetics respond favorably, since

blood sugar is naturally controlled. And, without a

full spectrum of protein, children will not produce

appropriate neuotransmitters like dopamine, serotonin,

melatonin. Also, whey protein concentrate reverses

wasting syndrome [cachexia]. Whey protein concentrate

is still very inexpensive, easy to digest and

assimilate, easy to mix with water, juice, milk, or

added to muffins, pancakes, waffles.

<P>Hair analysis & nbsp;IS valid for chronic exposure,

not acute exposure as you stated. Hair analysis has

decades of scientific validation, not to be dismissed

by the stroke of a key pad.

<P>I have hundreds of pre- and post- oral chelation

hair analysis tests for children with and without

autism and adults, in other words, DOCUMENTATION.

These test results are available to anyone upon

request. Again, SCIENCE is why I have chosen to

recommend Extreme Health US oral chelation:

<P><A

href= " http://www.geocities.com/mikemenkes/oralchelation.html " >http://www.geociti\

es.com/mikemenkes/oralchelation.html</A>

<P>We are ALL exposed to heavy metals. You & nbsp; may

all consider being tested for highs and lows of 22

minerals, since deficiencies cause their own problems.

I am asking for $40/hair analysis.

<P>As far as acidophilus-type products, I recommend a

FOS PRE-biotic, as Kirkman Labs has on their site. FOS

products feed the existing friendly microflora. Once

the microflora are supported, an individual will

produce & nbsp;his/her own B-vitamins, including folate

and B-12, and serotonin [from Vit B 6 conversion], and

produce their own melatonin from serotonin.

<P>Respectfully,

<P>Mike Menkes, LMT

<P> & nbsp; <B><I>AndyCutler@...</I></B> wrote:

<BLOCKQUOTE style= " PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:

5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid " ><TT><BR> & gt; & lt;P & gt; The

most complete amino acid profiles for the<BR> & gt;

least amount of $$ is lactose-free whey

protein<BR> & gt; concentrate. Easy to digest and

assimilate.<BR><BR>Life threatening for the high

sulfur individual, too.<BR><BR>Andy<BR><BR> & gt;

& lt;P & gt;Respectfully,<BR> & gt; & lt;P & gt;Mike Menkes,

LMT<BR> & gt; & lt;P & gt; & amp;nbsp; & lt;B & gt; & lt;I & gt;Mark

Schauss<BR> & gt; schauss@c... & lt;/I & gt; & lt;/B & gt;

wrote: <BR> & gt; & lt;BLOCKQUOTE style= " PADDING-LEFT:

5px; MARGIN-LEFT:<BR> & gt; 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff

2px solid " & gt; & lt;TT & gt;Andy is right<BR> & gt; that

there are numerous circumstances where single<BR> & gt;

amino acids & lt;BR & gt;are okay without taking anything

else<BR> & gt; at the time. & amp;nbsp; There are a

number, & lt;BR & gt;especially<BR> & gt; the branched chain

aminos (Leucine, Isoleucine and<BR> & gt; Valine)

that & lt;BR & gt;shouldn't be taken alone. & amp;nbsp;

What<BR> & gt; my concern is with amino acids is that

even & lt;BR & gt;the<BR> & gt; safer ones like Taurine are

taken for a long period of<BR> & gt; time

without & lt;BR & gt;making sure that the balance of

the<BR> & gt; other aminos and co-factors

are & lt;BR & gt;competent. & amp;nbsp;<BR> & gt; Taking

glycine for a long period of time without<BR> & gt;

assessing the & lt;BR & gt;competency of serine may

cause<BR> & gt; imbalances in this important<BR> & gt;

metabolic & lt;BR & gt;pathway. & lt;BR & gt; & lt;BR & gt;In

health, & lt;BR & gt;Mark<BR> & gt;

Schauss & lt;BR & gt;www.cellmatewellness.com & lt;BR & gt; & lt;BR & gt;-----<BR> & gt;

Original Message ----- & lt;BR & gt;From:<BR> & gt;

AndyCutler@a... & lt;BR & gt;To:<BR> & gt;

@y... & lt;BR & gt;Sent:<BR> & gt; Sunday,

June 10, 2001 10:30 AM & lt;BR & gt;Subject: Re:<BR> & gt;

[ ]Amino

Acids/Mark & lt;BR & gt; & lt;BR & gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt;<BR> & gt;

& amp;gt; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; I would recommend taking

a balanced<BR> & gt; amino acid complex

whenever & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; taking

a & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt;<BR> & gt;

& amp;gt; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; single amino

acid. & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; I<BR> & gt;

would say it depends on what you are trying to<BR> & gt;

accomplish. & amp;nbsp; There & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; are lots

of<BR> & gt; circumstances where you are using the amino

acids in<BR> & gt; an & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; allopathic or

orthomolecular sense and DO<BR> & gt; want to give them

without & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; anything else to<BR> & gt;

compete with

them. & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt;<BR> & gt;

Andy & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt;

& amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt;

& amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt;<BR> & gt;

& amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; & amp;gt; [Non-text portions

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<BR> & gt; & lt;BLOCKQUOTE style= " PADDING-LEFT:

> 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:<BR> & gt; 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff

> 2px solid " & gt; & lt;TT & gt;Andy is right<BR> & gt; that

> there are numerous circumstances where single<BR> & gt;

> amino acids & lt;BR & gt;are okay without taking anything

> else<BR> & gt; at the time. & amp;nbsp; There are a

> number, & lt;BR & gt;especially<BR> & gt; the branched chain

> aminos (Leucine, Isoleucine and<BR> & gt; Valine)

> that & lt;BR & gt;shouldn't be taken alone. & amp;nbsp;

> What<BR> & gt; my concern is with amino acids is that

> even & lt;BR & gt;the<BR> & gt; safer ones like Taurine are

> taken for a long period of<BR> & gt; time

> without & lt;BR & gt;making sure that the balance of

> the<BR> & gt; other aminos and co-factors

> are & lt;BR & gt;competent. & amp;nbsp;<BR> & gt; Taking

> glycine for a long period of time without<BR> & gt;

> assessing the & lt;BR & gt;competency of serine may

> cause<BR> & gt; imbalances in this important<BR> & gt;

> metabolic & lt;BR & gt;pathway. & lt;BR & gt; & lt;BR & gt;In

> health, & lt;BR & gt;Mark<BR> & gt;

>

Schauss & lt;BR & gt;www.cellmatewellness.com & lt;BR & gt; & lt;BR & gt;-----<BR>

& gt;

> Original Message ----- & lt;BR & gt;From:<BR> & gt;

> AndyCutler@a... & lt;BR & gt;To:<BR> & gt;

> @y... & lt;BR & gt;Sent:<BR> & gt; Sunday,

> June 10, 2001 10:30 AM & lt;BR & gt;Subject: Re:<BR> & gt;

> [ ]Amino

> Acids/Mark & lt;BR & gt; & lt;BR & gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt;<BR> & gt;

> & amp;gt; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; I would recommend taking

> a balanced<BR> & gt; amino acid complex

> whenever & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; taking

> a & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt;<BR> & gt;

> & amp;gt; & amp;nbsp; & amp;nbsp; single amino

> acid. & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; I<BR> & gt;

> would say it depends on what you are trying to<BR> & gt;

> accomplish. & amp;nbsp; There & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; are lots

> of<BR> & gt; circumstances where you are using the amino

> acids in<BR> & gt; an & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; allopathic or

> orthomolecular sense and DO<BR> & gt; want to give them

> without & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; anything else to<BR> & gt;

> compete with

> them. & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt;<BR> & gt;

> Andy & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt;

> & amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt;

> & amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt; & amp;gt;<BR> & gt;

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Andy: It is a good thing that PRACTITIONERS exist. Your THEORY of thiol groups

and autism is low in correlation. Only a person quoting sites, instead of

dealing with thousand of patients, will conclude that mercury causes thiol-group

sensitivity.

For your edification, and the hundreds of people who have been misled by your

scholarly mis-associations, the actual thiol-group culprit is NOT mercury, but,

low liver function.

Enhance LIVER function and be amazed what even an autistic child's body can do.

Also, it seems to me that a big part of the autistic picture is being ignored.

The pre-natal emotional interplay between the future parents have a higher

correlation of pre-autistic disposition than your thiol culprit.

As far as my licensing is concerned, it is people like you who come off as being

an expert in the field. I have seen otherwise.

Merriam-Webster says that proteins consist of carbon, oxygen, hydrogen,

nitrogen, and usually sulfur. You split more hairs than a hair analysis.

If children and/or adults do not get a full spectrum of amino acids, as found in

whey protein concentrate, their over-all health picture will spiral down.

When you are able to lift your head out of the texts/websites, you may want to

associate with practitioners who are fighting toxic wars from all fronts. In

lieu of asking me to go off-list, why don't you take a time-out?

Mike Menkes, LMT

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> even & lt;BR & gt;the<BR> & gt; safer ones like Taurine are

> taken for a long period of<BR> & gt; time

> without & lt;BR & gt;making sure that the balance of

> the<BR> & gt; other aminos and co-factors

> are & lt;BR & gt;competent. & amp;nbsp;<BR> & gt; Taking

> glycine for a long period of time without<BR> & gt;

> assessing the & lt;BR & gt;competency of serine may

> cause<BR> & gt; imbalances in this important<BR> & gt;

> metabolic & lt;BR & gt;pathway. & lt;BR & gt; & lt;BR & gt;In

> health, & lt;BR & gt;Mark<BR> & gt;

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> Also, it seems to me that a big part of the autistic picture is

>being ignored. The pre-natal emotional interplay between the future parents

>have a higher correlation of pre-autistic disposition than your thiol culprit.

In other words the old " Refigerator Mother Theory " ????

Laurie

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> > Also, it seems to me that a big part of the autistic picture is

> >being ignored. The pre-natal emotional interplay between the future

parents

> >have a higher correlation of pre-autistic disposition than your thiol

culprit.

Would you kindly explain what it is you intended to say here?

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The verbal fighting between both spouses prior to the birth. Pre-natal tension

can bring on all sorts of unresolved childhood insecurities from both sides. An

autistic child may have chosen not to participate nor choose sides. Divorces

usually occur for reasons set in place before the marriage.

Respectfully,

Mike Menkes, LMT

Laurie Hunter <chinamom@...> wrote:

> Also, it seems to me that a big part of the autistic picture is

>being ignored. The pre-natal emotional interplay between the future parents

>have a higher correlation of pre-autistic disposition than your thiol culprit.

In other words the old " Refigerator Mother Theory " ????

Laurie

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I can't believe what I'm reading! We are in the year 2001, right?

How insensitive and ignorant you must be. Prenatal tension causing

autism? There was no verbal fighting with my spouse, or anyone else

for that matter, while I was pregnant or afterwards, but to defend

myself from such a stupid statement is giving the statement too much

credit.

Respectfully putting my foot up your butt,

Kaye

> > Also, it seems to me that a big part of the autistic picture is

> >being ignored. The pre-natal emotional interplay between the

future parents

> >have a higher correlation of pre-autistic disposition than your

thiol culprit.

>

> In other words the old " Refigerator Mother Theory " ????

>

> Laurie

>

>

>

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> The verbal fighting between both spouses prior to the birth. Pre-natal

tension can bring on all sorts of unresolved childhood insecurities from

both sides. An autistic child may have chosen not to participate nor choose

sides. Divorces usually occur for reasons set in place before the marriage.

> Respectfully,

> Mike Menkes, LMT

Dear Mike,

I apologize. I am under-educated and do not know what an LMT is ...

licensed medical technician is my best guess and even at that I do not know

what an LMT does.

Now you have broached one of my areas of expertise. I've been studying

people who have outlandish theories such as " unresolved childhood

insecurities " and some have even claimed those come from past life

experiences.

As far as verbal fighting between my former husband and myself previous to

the birth, there was absolutely zero of that and I have never suffered from

any insecurities, but do admit he had many, which is why he was attracted to

a person of my abilities. He used to tell people " Oh, if only I could be

her for just five minutes to see what it must feel like. " While it is true

that his admiration for my abilities grew towards losing his masculinity

since he could not lead his household effectively or manage to study

anything helpful to my daughter in order to heal her to the extent that I

have spiritually, my story might offer some new insight since you are rather

holistically (perhaps) inclined.

I am an expert at Sabian Astrology, The Mandala and The I'Ching as it

relates to astrological progression of the events of superior advancements

and was born at Zero degrees Libra. My starchart says I shall marry a

lesser being in order to bear an instrument that shall thrust me towards my

dharma and that I shall fulfill my destiny by entering a world wherein I

represent and provide protection for an epidemic of children who cannot

speak or in any manner defend themselves. It says I shall divorce that man

to marry a sage and shall partner with him in order to change history in the

world where this epidemic exists. I have found three so far who are good

candidates. To find them I advertised over the Internet for men who were

compatible to my wishes. It has been very easy for me.

I did not know all of this was predestined by astrological designations

until after it began to become true. Now, whereas astrology itself is bunk

because it only takes one singular act to undo everything God intends shall

happen and He then has to start all over, Sabian Symbols came about with a

visionary and two prophets dealing as sages in astrological mathematicity.

They do not forecast (these symbols) as future, but merely lay dharma (God's

Plan) before you and they have never been recognized as faulty in any way.

My daughter is considered to be the " fine dart " that offers me a route

towards perfection and attainment of my goals for the many afflicted just

like her and I have been asked by the NIH to gather what I consider to be

all experts within the world of healing autism. It will hopefully net my

foundation a grant and will be one of the first times that allopathic as

well as natural medicinal practices shall be joined with conventional

medicine and it will be the first time that America shall recognize parents

who have cured their autistic children as the experts they must be to have

cured their children. Only parents have cured their children since it takes

more than a singular therapy or physician or even a method of healing.

I intend that when I am through Medicaid shall disburse even the EASe CD to

combat hypersensitive hearing in autism and doctors shall be forced by the

American Pediatric Association, to comply with dispensing those prescriptive

needs.

The children of autism own their disability and it is thievery for the

government, through the Social Security Administration laws, to say that if

the parent makes a certain amount of money, that child does not deserve an

SSI disability payment close to the $400 per month his/her parents need for

the supplements it takes to heal many aspects of autism and it is thievery

to disallow those children as individuals under law to get Medicaid

benefits. It is unfortunate, however, that Medicaid does not allow for the

dispensing of Perfect B (sublingual B vitamins) while even Walgreens has it

contained in their pharmacies now,. so someone IS dispensing at least that

via doctor's prescriptions.

So many things need to be changed and somehow fate has placed these things

within my grasp. Never would my spiritual life have been so utterly

socially redeeming and worthwhile had it not been that I was given the gift

of an autistic child and as a reward of a kind, my daughter's likeness was

painted by an artist who never saw her but somehow painted her with stars of

lights encircling her fingers and toes. My daughter used to whirl her

fingers and toes and there is no way he could have known this.

For years I taught on The Minc List that my daughter was " the epitome of joy

and mirth " and one day a subscriber told me to run to a bookstore to peek

into Mr. Froud's book, " Good Faeries, Bad Faeries. " There was my

daughter, named Lacey (Irish for cheerful) called " The Faery of Pure Joy. "

Across from her portrait, for every S and T placed together, The Sign of

Omega sits atop and joins them. The artist has no idea why he chose to do

this but I have long complained that America has no reverence and the people

are too lazy to even spell out the entire word, SAINT.

I write a spiritual column and own an Internet church comprised of people of

all faiths from ten major countries and I have long claimed that the

children of autism shall come in the multitudes directly from Heaven itself

to teach everyone that the lack of cognizant abilities in this country is

staggering. Boys wearing black nail polish have a mental disorder of some

kind and I think even girls who wear lime green nail polish have some severe

compromises keeping them from feminine artistry. And their parents sit like

drones in front of televisions all day while the world of autism proudly

studies medicinal practices and learns what it takes to heal body, mind and

spirit. They own children who by mystical force refuse to look at them and

those children speak symbolically of the people who walk in neighborhoods

and malls and stare at their feet rather than extend the life of spiritual

uplifting towards each other and smile to invoke any form of friendship.

This kills the Christian spirit of friendship and togetherness.

I see these children move symbolically by a spiritual force science will

never be able to explain. What poison may I offer to force you to wave your

arms all day like the children of Angelman's syndrome or rock back and forth

to warn of leaded waters and other rocks in the food and water supply? By

magic they all love French fries and I think all mothers of autistic

children had a lack of choline while building their brains, but I am an

expert at symbology and said to be a Seer.

I say these children come by special design and were it not so, my starchart

would not say so without room for any question and I would not have been

graced in the multitude of manners that I have been. Many times my words

bounce back at me. One day I will write I am a spitfire of a woman (the way

I feel after reading your post) and then a woman named Fox to my Minc writes

" Libran eyes spit fire " only one day after I wrote those very words.

Another day I will tell everyone I know " that is perfection! " and she will

write " Now you know what perfection is. "

Perhaps you are not familiar with the concept of " pennies from Heaven, " but

some do receive orders from Heaven and made it a commandment to make Heaven

on Earth a reality and it is through the world of these children I call

" cherubs " that these things are being performed on a grander scale than you

can even imagine.

These children are not as a result of parental arguments while the children

were telepaths in the womb and are by special design or they would not all u

se these mysterious spiritual movements that they do, take on the same

fascinations that they do, speak in the language that not many comprehend

.... what poison might I give you to adore ceiling fans or try to destroy

VCRs?

We are fans of Heaven and it is through the world of parents of autistic

children and those cherubs themselves that other people are later going to

learn how to achieve a higher ability for mental acuity. We demand sages

from this country and we are far from it as it currently stands, but there

are people such as Mr. Bernard Windham and Mr. Cutler who have

continued through self-studies and serve the many each day with their

participation in this arena of endeavor.

And truths continue to be exposed. Currently autopsies show 30 year olds

have white plaque accumulating wthin their brains - the same white plaque

found in victims of Alzheimers ... it appears to me that white plaque

somehow removes the ability for seemingly normal people to love and respect

each other - just as victims of Alzheimers' forget they love their family.

However, we do NOT forget we love our own family and that family has become

the fantastic world of autism. These parents willingly martyr themselves

and they have long learned they need to take the world of healing in their

own hands and by all they do, each of us steps forward and not really ever

backward since we continue to learn and to share with open hands and not

closed fists.

Let there be no misunderstanding. These children are specialists in what

they can achieve as a growing epidemic. You may not realize this but the

Name of Jesus is Hebrew and is not pronounced by anyone in this country in

its proper form! So how cognizant are even the Christians when they do not

know it is pronounced " Ya-Shua " ?

We worry for the souls of the majority so there are children waving their

arms like angels. There are children rocking and waving their arms. There

are children who will play a video over and over and stop it just as an

eagle tries to fly. These are mystical, magical children by Higher Order so

do not try to say they are as a result of their parents arguing while they

were in the womb.

Tell me what those parents could have said that causes them to do the things

they can do that you would never have the patience for. They are here to

teach healing - all that is healing. They are of the Spirit, so they do not

look in their own parents' eyes that those parents will know beyond question

that the bread must be removed.

And all the while, literally millions upon millions of Christians have been

actively praying for their daily bread.

So if you think this is not a push towards recognition of spiritual forces

at work, know now I can prove this beyond the shadow of a doubt. Until all

that is healing has been established and all charlatans out of the business,

all poisons removed, all remedies announced, until the FDA decides to

evaluate all supplements, the world of autism rocks like none other.

It is, as I have long written, a rock and roll (referring to wheat) sort of

endeavor and we have high aspirations.

Minc

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Re: [ ]Amino Acids/Mark

> I can't believe what I'm reading! We are in the year 2001, right?

> How insensitive and ignorant you must be. Prenatal tension causing

> autism? There was no verbal fighting with my spouse, or anyone else

> for that matter, while I was pregnant or afterwards, but to defend

> myself from such a stupid statement is giving the statement too much

> credit.

> Respectfully putting my foot up your butt,

> Kaye

>

>

>

> > > Also, it seems to me that a big part of the autistic picture is

> > >being ignored. The pre-natal emotional interplay between the

> future parents

> > >have a higher correlation of pre-autistic disposition than your

> thiol culprit.

> >

> > In other words the old " Refigerator Mother Theory " ????

> >

> > Laurie

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Mark, What balanced amino acids complex do you suggest? Should amino acids,

minerals, vitamins be given separately and at different times? During school

season, we open all pills and capsules, mix with liquid supplements, shake it up

in a jar, pour into large jigger, gulp, then a chaser; drinks 16 oz. drink on

the way to school. Is there a better or healthier way to give supplements? We

use mostly Kirkmans products. We use Andy and Amy's original protocol for

chelating since late summer 00 with no problems. Thank you.

Judie Forehand, Grandmother to Josh and Connor, age 9

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Mike,

I seem to recall references to the thiol interference of mercury in a several of

the well-known books on mercury poisoning from dental fillings including " It's

all in your Head " by Hal Huggins, DDS, and a couple of the Ziff books among

others. I don't have them with me since I'm out of town, so I can't quote them

or cite pages today.

Perhaps you can enlighten the group on the therapies/approaches you feel have

benefitted or have the potential to benefit individuals w/ autism or mercury

poisoning. I'm catching up on mail, so perhaps you've already done so and I

just haven't gotten to it yet.

S

On Tue, 12 June 2001, Mike Menkes wrote:

>

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> <BR>

> Andy: It is a good thing that PRACTITIONERS exist. Your THEORY of thiol

groups and autism is low in correlation. Only a person quoting sites, instead of

dealing with thousand of patients, will conclude that mercury causes thiol-group

sensitivity.<BR>

> For your edification, and the hundreds of people who have been misled by your

scholarly mis-associations, the actual thiol-group culprit is NOT mercury, but,

low liver function.<BR>

> Enhance LIVER function and be amazed what even an autistic child's body can

do.<BR>

> Also, it seems to me that a big part of the autistic picture is being ignored.

The pre-natal emotional interplay between the future parents have a higher

correlation of pre-autistic disposition than your thiol culprit.<BR>

> As far as my licensing is concerned, it is people like you who come off as

being an expert in the field. I have seen otherwise.<BR>

> Merriam-Webster says that proteins consist of carbon, oxygen, hydrogen,

nitrogen, and usually sulfur. You split more hairs than a hair analysis.<BR>

> If children and/or adults do not get a full spectrum of amino acids, as found

in whey protein concentrate, their over-all health picture will spiral down.<BR>

> When you are able to lift your head out of the texts/websites, you may want to

associate with practitioners who are fighting toxic wars from all fronts. In

lieu of asking me to go off-list, why don't you take a time-out?<BR>

> Mike Menkes, LMT<BR>

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> > there are numerous circumstances where single<BR> & gt;

> > amino acids & lt;BR & gt;are okay without taking anything

> > else<BR> & gt; at the time. & amp;nbsp; There are a

> > number, & lt;BR & gt;especially<BR> & gt; the branched chain

> > aminos (Leucine, Isoleucine and<BR> & gt; Valine)

> > that & lt;BR & gt;shouldn't be taken alone. & amp;nbsp;

> > What<BR> & gt; my concern is with amino acids is that

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> > taken for a long period of<BR> & gt; time

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> > are & lt;BR & gt;competent. & amp;nbsp;<BR> & gt; Taking

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> > Also, it seems to me that a big part of the autistic picture is

> >being ignored. The pre-natal emotional interplay between the future

parents

> >have a higher correlation of pre-autistic disposition than your

thiol culprit.

>

> In other words the old " Refigerator Mother Theory " ????

It is apparently a lot easier to blame the mothers than to learn some

biochemistry or pay attention to test results.

Andy

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Mike,

I have to comment here.

You said.:

> Also, it seems to me that a big part of the autistic picture is being

ignored. The pre-natal emotional interplay between the future parents have a

higher correlation of pre-autistic disposition than your thiol culprit.

>

You just lost any potential for credibility with me and I suspect with most

of the parents on this list. It's almost as good as the " lets blame the

refrigerator mother " theory that Bettleheim put forward back in the dark

ages.

I can only assume that the rest of your theories also came from the rear end

of a bull.

Celia

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Mike,

That's like saying firetrucks cause fires...I think you have the cause and

effect pieces backwards. By the way how would that explain the twins I know,

one w/ autism, the other w/out...

S

> You said.:<BR>

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> ignored. The pre-natal emotional interplay between the future parents have

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> higher correlation of pre-autistic disposition than your thiol culprit.<BR>

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Mike,

How do you explain 2 boys toe-walking,losing speech while they have

the measles'rash on their bodies the entire time the regression

was happening? Enlighten me!! Kerri

- In @y..., l_shepard@m... wrote:

> Mike,

> That's like saying firetrucks cause fires...I think you have the

cause and effect pieces backwards. By the way how would that explain

the twins I know, one w/ autism, the other w/out...

> S

>

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> > You said.:<BR>

> > & gt; Also, it seems to me that a big part of the autistic picture

is being<BR>

> > ignored. The pre-natal emotional interplay between the future

parents have a<BR>

> > higher correlation of pre-autistic disposition than your thiol

culprit.<BR>

>

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