Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Lyndi, Thanks so much for this article. Although it is quite disturbing, it is good to know these things. I get sooo angry and could ramble on for hours about how mad this kind of thing makes me. Good Dr's going to jail for dishonest patients. It is just plain cruel. And its more cruel to all the patients he will not be able to treat because of these lying dirt bags. And the court is GOING TO LISTEN to someone who has covered track marks and someone who smokes crack, but WILL NOT LISTEN to a respected Dr. Does that make any sense at all....NO, none of it does. Very disturbing indeed. Caitlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 In a past life, I reviewed affidavits from law enforcement officers and reviewed them for probable cause, and when satisfied issued warrants. I occassionally interviewed drug enforcement officers in these cases. I found them to be generally well-qualified decent people meaning to do their best for society. The current problems with DEA and the medical profession come from the highest levels of DOJ and DEA. DEA Administrator Tandy has declared war on Oxycontin, and it was the drug involved in the investigations that led to federal charges against MDs in South Shore, Indiana, and Virginia. Success of the enforcement effort was gauged by a reduction in prescriptions for and sales of Oxycontin. This information was part of her presentation before the House Appropriations Committee this year. The President's National Drug Strategy has performance-based goals. These goals must be met. Apparently it hasn't dawned on Tandy that as a result of her efforts many patients who needed relief from pain are now in pain. This is great disservice to the people of this country. " Let 'em bite bullets, " ought to be the new DEA motto. For all the right reasons, the agency is doing all the wrong things. It is intimidating doctors and injuring patients rather than protecting the public. Write your congressional representative, senators, and the president. Let them know what you think about DEA's intimidation of MDs. DEA has a very difficult job. The agency does some very good work. However, in this case they've gone from protecting to harming. They must not be allowed to interfere with a doctors treatment of his or her patient. Recently we've been discussing some of our " hidden pain " and how that has caused some of us grief over something as simple as parking our vehicles in the spaces reserved for disability parking. Over the years in this group, the subject of family members and close friends not knowing or not understanding we are in pain has come up for discussion repeatedly. If people who know us well and see us regularly don't know we are in pain, or can't tell when we are in pain, how is a doctor supposed to know unless we tell him/her? > Imagine being a doctor convicted of " Drug Trafficking " for not being able to tell who was was lying about being in chronic pain. The following case is going to send negative signals to the compassionate chronic pain doctors who so far, have been willing to help us lead our lives with some degree of comfort and dignity. I think it should be the fake *patients* who lied to get prescription pain drugs illegally who should be the ones on trial for drug trafficking, not the doctors who prescribed. The doc didn't sell drugs on the street, the lying *patients* did. Yet they're off scott free and he's in jail. What's wrong with this picture???? " More to the point, the jury was not supposed to determine whether Hurwitz was a good doctor; that's an issue for the state medical board. The jury was supposed to determine whether Hurwitz intentionally fed the black market in opioids. Since the evidence indicated that he prescribed in good faith, with the intent of treating pain, convicting him of drug trafficking sets a chilling precedent. " http://www.reason.com/sullum/121704.shtml " That verdict sends a clear message to doctors that it's better to err on the side of suspicion. Knowing they could be prosecuted for believing a patient who turned out to be an addict or a dealer, doctors will be even less inclined to take the risk, compounding the already appalling problem of people in pain who suffer needlessly because physicians are afraid to help them. " Please click on the highlighted words in the article. They lead to other articles with a wide variety of opinions on this case. -- > Lyndi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2004 Report Share Posted December 25, 2004 Hi, I am swamped with emails and I must have missed the article about this doctor. Is it possible to re-post this? I would appreciate it. It's a shame that doctor's are held responsible for deceitful patients. Kathleen in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 This is something that i went through with my DR. I have 6 DR's all were very nervous about the liquid oxycontin drops i was on for years. I have since been on Fentanyl patches that work even better because i would wait to long to take my pain meds. but i still get the drops as a break through. I remember the day when my Dr who happened to be a DO also told me im not taking enough pain medication. this puzzled me to no end.. i thought the drs didn't want to give it out so i really tried to not take it.?? well.. it was then my dr told me that i shouldn't worry about him. He said that only DR.s that write an extreme number of prescriptions to ppl for these kinda pain meds are looked at by the DEA and that as long as the patients are indeed in pain and can prove it.????? hmmm so were these drs doing something wrong? was it the patients? I don't know. I do know that all this has made a lot of DR's afraid to write the prescriptions to the ppl who need them. I guess most ppl have to do like i do and talk to the dr about what their concerns are and how we as the patient can make sure that we both do our part in this confusing time of pain and our government getting lost in the idea of protecting us and doing what s right has gone over the edge and forgot why ppl needed the meds in the first place. in the end i hope that they will not require everyone to go to pain clinics. I refuse to be another experimental lab rat. I have done my part in that area already. My Drs are ok with me and we have talked about the meds and what they can and have done to me and what in the end is going to happen as i run outta meds to take and become resistant to the ones I'm on. guess its just something that i don't think about anymore. Hope everyone has a good holiday. -- karen " Al " <santas_lil_brother@s...> wrote: The current problems with DEA and the medical profession come from the highest levels of DOJ and DEA. DEA Administrator Tandy has declared war on Oxycontin, and it was the drug involved in the investigations that led to federal charges against MDs in South Shore, Indiana, and Virginia. Success of the enforcement effort was gauged by a reduction in prescriptions for and sales of Oxycontin. This information was part of her presentation before the House Appropriations Committee this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 Hi, I missed the article URL for this-could you please it again? My wonderful doc I had for 5 years was arrested July 2003 so I have a very personal conviction about what is going on with our government's actions. I am praying for my doc's clearance in his trial. Thanks, Chris-FL -- Moderator Note: Might as well stick my moderator response in. Here's the url for you :-) http://www.reason.com/sullum/121704.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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