Re: Re: Steve+

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What somebody knows is not anywhere as thrilling to me as is who they are.***I maintain only for my own purposes:(1) The paradoxes are really paradoxical(2) dualism and non-dualism and both and none-of-the-aboveto which I now add:(3) the human is the mystery(4) my preference for rigorous uncertainty rather than superficial certaintyIf this doesn't all fit into the norms of mysticism, I add:(A) Krassner: "my only sacred cow is that I have no sacred cows"( Lilly: "my beliefs are unbelievable***The most fun spiritual challenge day in and day out, for me, is to sincerely love the whole awesome culmination face-to-face with friends, partners, strangers.As you completely picked up. It is not some mountain to climb, it's a hop and a skip once the priorities get straightened out. I'm not very good it but its fun nevertheless.As for the dour delaying to tomorrow for the sake of dragging the ol' cross up the incline today...not for me.It's the mysterionis's fault! <<:-)love,What a fine CREDO! I am truly happy that J-F served for u to formulate it.

btw, I met Lilly at lunch wh I was teaching at Esalen. A wonderful man.

Here's tae ye!love

ao

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Alice, all,

Lilly's became a much wilder man of course. Some might argue too much

ketamine, I'd say, 'maybe the right amount'.

Simulations of God stirred me, and, Programming and Metaprogramming

in the Human Biocomputer remains a necessary source of my work and

sense. Additionally, SDT (float tank) experience definitely made an

impact, although I never did so on hallucigenics. :-(

I appreciate your calling my 'credo' fine. To me its a very crude

albeit serviceable credo. J-F didn't have much to do with its

formation, but the online era has assisted with its expressive

formulation. Of course, on a lower level, all such expression in my

case is merely a gob of persona mongering and, no doubt, it has

tracked here through different presentations and generations and

pretensions.

This said, its formulation is by virtue of leading a

psychedelic-contemplative life for many years. Toni suggested that I

thought I " knew everything at 13 " even though I didn't write to say

so. But, on the other hand, it's not a bad idea to relativize all the

ensueing 'knowledge' over decades upon decades that accrue to the

fine credo of a 13 year old.

***

It is true that exposure to the Jung email world has provoked me

substantially to become much less of a Jung Man. Not so much from any

exposure to enlightened skepticism, but rather exposure to richness

of human nature.

Anyway, I'm much too playful a philosopher, ('a pursuer and lover of

wisdom,') to hang with received systems too closely. The system that

counts is the one that one is.

regards,

ps. Alice, if I remember correctly, I came to The Web in the Sea

years before encountering you here because Bly recommended it

to my former wife; she played in Marcus's 'house band' at The Great

Mother Conferences for several years.