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Hello everyone. I have a puzzling case. Gagnian is an 8mth old Jack Russel who

jumped from the 1st floor balcony of the owner's appartment and fractured a

thorasic vertibra. As his owner abandoned him, the Stray community paid for his

operation which went really good according to the surgeon. The dog was then

taken for hospitality to a kennel and was presented to me yesterday with the

following clinical signs:

- Swollen knees,

- Extended hind limbs - knees bent BACKWARDS

- inability to flex knee joint

- Inability to stand for more than a few seconds

- Tail movement

- Muscle atrophy in both hind limbs

I have started UWTML, physio roll, massage, LASER etc.. In my mind, due to this

dog's ortho issues on top of his neuro deficiences, there is no ability for him

to bear weight on the knees and form a functional walking pattern. I will

suggest a cart and adoption for him. Has anyone had a similar case out there? Am

I missing something?

Thanks,

Natalia Kontogeorgou,

DVM, CCRP

My Pet Care

31 Hroon Polytexneiou str.

Chalandri 15231

Athens, Greece

www.mypetcare.gr

info@...

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Can you send pictures or radiographs? I think I have an idea of exactly what

you are talking about but pictures would be greatly appreciated.

, VMD, CCRP candidate

Veterinary Orthopedic Sports Medicine Group

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From: VetRehab [VetRehab ] On Behalf Of

[cnkonto@...]

Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:54 AM

To: VetRehab

Subject: Puppy Gagnian

Hello everyone. I have a puzzling case. Gagnian is an 8mth old Jack Russel who

jumped from the 1st floor balcony of the owner's appartment and fractured a

thorasic vertibra. As his owner abandoned him, the Stray community paid for his

operation which went really good according to the surgeon. The dog was then

taken for hospitality to a kennel and was presented to me yesterday with the

following clinical signs:

- Swollen knees,

- Extended hind limbs - knees bent BACKWARDS

- inability to flex knee joint

- Inability to stand for more than a few seconds

- Tail movement

- Muscle atrophy in both hind limbs

I have started UWTML, physio roll, massage, LASER etc.. In my mind, due to this

dog's ortho issues on top of his neuro deficiences, there is no ability for him

to bear weight on the knees and form a functional walking pattern. I will

suggest a cart and adoption for him. Has anyone had a similar case out there? Am

I missing something?

Thanks,

Natalia Kontogeorgou,

DVM, CCRP

My Pet Care

31 Hroon Polytexneiou str.

Chalandri 15231

Athens, Greece

www.mypetcare.gr

info@...<mailto:info%40mypetcare.gr>

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I agree with Rick entirely on that one. This little kid is a T3-L3 with what

looks to be subsequent contracture of the hindlimbs. I'm guessing when you

palpate him you will have patella alta. How do the muscle bellies actually

feel? I currently have a lab like this who was treated for neospora as a puppy.

That little guy is about 9 months old now but uses his hindlimbs as stilts. We

are fitting him for little orthotics to provide a weight bearing surface and

prevent crossing over. The only other question I have is how is this little

guys hip range of motion.

, VMD, CCRP candidate

Veterinary Orthopedic Sports Medicine Group

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From: VetRehab [VetRehab ] On Behalf Of Rick

Wall, DVM [drwall@...]

Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 12:23 PM

To: VetRehab

Subject: Re: Puppy Gagnian

,

Your description and pictures suggest a spinal cord injury w/ T3-L3

neuroanatomical localization, that would probably coincide w/ the traumatic

thoracic vertebrae fracture. Upper motor presentation. Any trouble urinating?

Rick Wall, DVM

Certified Canine Rehabilitation Practitioner

Diplomate, American Academy of Pain Management

Certified Myofascial Trigger Point Therapist

Center for Veterinary Pain Management and Rehabilitation

The Woodlands, TX

www.vetrehabcenter.com

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Hello All,

Interesting case. I think this sentence from Jeanine is a very key sentence:

" When you say " inability to flex stifles " , do you mean actively, or do you mean

with attempted passive range of motion, like a contracture, or do you mean lack

of active flexion and increased tone at rear legs? "

If the dog appears to have hypertonia and hyperextension due to purely UMN

disease then with sedation or anesthesia you should passively be able to flex

the stifles, maybe not normally if he does have muscle contraction, but more

than in the awake dog. If you cannot passively flex with sedation or

anesthesia, I would be worried about mechanical limitation due to trauma to

growth plates of either the distal femur or proximal tibia or both resulting in

growth deformity. Another important piece of information for me would be at

what age did the injury occur and how much potential was there left in the

distal femoral and proximal tibial growth plates? History and Radiographs of

the knees and hocks would be a great help in ruling that out. As to my first

sentence, I would love to hear from any neurologist on this list to explain

better whether I am correct or not. Additionally, I have always found that with

hypertonia from UMN disease, I could typically get a withdrawal refl

ex with stifle flexion as a component if there was no mechanical component. Is

there anyone's opinion on this?

Mark B. Parchman, DVM, DACVS, CVA, CCRT

Bend Veterinary Specialists

Bend, Oregon

Puppy Gagnian

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> Received: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 11:54 AM

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> Hello everyone. I have a puzzling case. Gagnian is an 8mth old Jack

> Russel who jumped from the 1st floor balcony of the owner's

> appartment and fractured a thorasic vertibra. As his owner

> abandoned him, the Stray community paid for his operation which

> went really good according to the surgeon. The dog was then taken

> for hospitality to a kennel and was presented to me yesterday with

> the following clinical signs:

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> - Swollen knees,

> - Extended hind limbs - knees bent BACKWARDS

> - inability to flex knee joint

> - Inability to stand for more than a few seconds

> - Tail movement

> - Muscle atrophy in both hind limbs

>

> I have started UWTML, physio roll, massage, LASER etc.. In my mind,

> due to this dog's ortho issues on top of his neuro deficiences,

> there is no ability for him to bear weight on the knees and form a

> functional walking pattern. I will suggest a cart and adoption for

> him. Has anyone had a similar case out there? Am I missing

> something?

>

> Thanks,

> Natalia Kontogeorgou,

> DVM, CCRP

>

> My Pet Care

> 31 Hroon Polytexneiou str.

> Chalandri 15231

> Athens, Greece

> www.mypetcare.gr

> info@...

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Hello to all, thanks for all your great ideas and questions. I had to dig a

little to find out what really happened to this dog. Here is the complete story:

Gagnian now and 8mth old puppy at age 4 mths jumped from the 2nd floor and

landed on the ground. The vet that originally saw him thought that he had broken

his legs so he casted them for 4 weeks!!! After removal of the casts Gagnian was

left with his broken back untreated and two quad contracted legs. His owner

abandoned him and the Stray society adopted and paid for his decompression

surgery. 3 mths later he is brought to me for rehab. There is no deep pain

perception, there is tail movement. There is movement of his legs, mostly

involuntary movements. The urethral sphincter is spastic, I have to releave his

bladder 4 times a day. His hind legs DO NOT BEND (left bends up to 40o and the

right 26o). As a consequence the legs remain extended. I have done a lot of work

with him to achieve some bending of the knees, by strapping them separately with

therabands and making him stand. All this work is gone since when he sits, is

placed in the cart or is just lying down, sine his legs jerk involuntarily and

his knees remain locked.

Any ideas on how to deal with this?

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> > To: VetRehab

> > Received: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 11:54 AM

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> > Hello everyone. I have a puzzling case. Gagnian is an 8mth old Jack

> > Russel who jumped from the 1st floor balcony of the owner's

> > appartment and fractured a thorasic vertibra. As his owner

> > abandoned him, the Stray community paid for his operation which

> > went really good according to the surgeon. The dog was then taken

> > for hospitality to a kennel and was presented to me yesterday with

> > the following clinical signs:

> >

> > - Swollen knees,

> > - Extended hind limbs - knees bent BACKWARDS

> > - inability to flex knee joint

> > - Inability to stand for more than a few seconds

> > - Tail movement

> > - Muscle atrophy in both hind limbs

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> > I have started UWTML, physio roll, massage, LASER etc.. In my mind,

> > due to this dog's ortho issues on top of his neuro deficiences,

> > there is no ability for him to bear weight on the knees and form a

> > functional walking pattern. I will suggest a cart and adoption for

> > him. Has anyone had a similar case out there? Am I missing

> > something?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Natalia Kontogeorgou,

> > DVM, CCRP

> >

> > My Pet Care

> > 31 Hroon Polytexneiou str.

> > Chalandri 15231

> > Athens, Greece

> > www.mypetcare.gr

> > info@...

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