Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 , Thanks for sharing! Wow! I'm so happy and encouraged by your story and pray the rest goes away faster! Debbie OT: The Good news and the bad news. Hi All, My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an EPFX SCIO came over last night and ran me on her program to see what issues came up with me. It was interesting that the last time she ran me Lyme 4 came up as a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not come up at all. It has taken almost 4 years to do it, but I think I am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest progress has been made in the past year with the coil machine. The bad news was that Ascaris and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is thought to be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided energetically lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma herx for me is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so neurological. Anyway, I thought it was good to get a Confirmation from Shirley's machine that I am on the right track with my energy testing. I just hope it is not another 4 years to eradicate the Myco plasma fermentens. Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 , are you using 690 for myco? Are you going to run Lyme once a month, just to keep it in check? I know Doug MacLean has never stopped coiling - 20 years now. He usually treats monthly and hasn't even had a cold or flu in 20 years. (He is always helping others, so he exposed to many frequencies several times a week.) Hi All, My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an EPFX SCIO came over last night and ran me on her program to see what issues came up with me. It was interesting that the last time she ran me Lyme 4 came up as a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not come up at all. It has taken almost 4 years to do it, but I think I am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest progress has been made in the past year with the coil machine. The bad news was that Ascaris and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is thought to be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided energetically lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma herx for me is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so neurological. Anyway, I thought it was good to get a Confirmation from Shirley's machine that I am on the right track with my energy testing. I just hope it is not another 4 years to eradicate the Mycoplasma fermentens. Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Hi ,Congratulations on the departure of Lyme. I really do think you've licked it, although i know you will periodically treat it to guarantee no mre returns. As for the mycoplasma, I think dillignet rifing will eventually do the same. I hesitate to say it (superstitious, I guess) but I've finally run 20 repeats in a row with all the Sutherland mycoplasma frx and not a trace of a herx followed! Just a lot of good new energy! All the habitual herx spots are utterly quiet, and the neural seems to be quiet also. Mycoplasma is finite too. Just keep on trucking! It can't/won't be 4 more years.Be well,Léna Hi All, My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an EPFX SCIO came over last night and ran me on her program to see what issues came up with me. It was interesting that the last time she ran me Lyme 4 came up as a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not come up at all. It has taken almost 4 years to do it, but I think I am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest progress has been made in the past year with the coil machine. The bad news was that Ascaris and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is thought to be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided energetically lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma herx for me is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so neurological. Anyway, I thought it was good to get a Confirmation from Shirley's machine that I am on the right track with my energy testing. I just hope it is not another 4 years to eradicate the Mycoplasma fermentens. Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Hi , The great news is you may not have Lyme any longer.... The bad news is the battle continues... How often are you Coiling for Mycoplasma? Keep up the good work! Jim > > Hi All, > > My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an EPFX SCIO came over last night and ran me on her program to see what issues came up with me. It was interesting that the last time she ran me Lyme 4 came up as a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not come up at all. It has taken almost 4 years to do it, but I think I am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest progress has been made in the past year with the coil machine. The bad news was that Ascaris and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is thought to be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided energetically lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma herx for me is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so neurological. Anyway, I thought it was good to get a Confirmation from Shirley's machine that I am on the right track with my energy testing. I just hope it is not another 4 years to eradicate the Mycoplasma fermentens. > > Take care, > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Okay Lena, What is this " I don't have Lyme anymore week! :-) Good for you too! Jim > > > Hi All, > > > > My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an > > EPFX SCIO came over last night and ran me on her program to see > > what issues came up with me. It was interesting that the last time > > she ran me Lyme 4 came up as a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not > > come up at all. It has taken almost 4 years to do it, but I think I > > am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest progress has been made in > > the past year with the coil machine. The bad news was that Ascaris > > and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is thought to > > be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided energetically > > lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for > > Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma > > herx for me is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so > > neurological. Anyway, I thought it was good to get a Confirmation > > from Shirley's machine that I am on the right track with my energy > > testing. I just hope it is not another 4 years to eradicate the > > Mycoplasma fermentens. > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Yes, I will continue to treat Lyme as I am guided to by my energetic testing which has always worked well for me. I have a chart that I have made of all of the potential infections that I need to rife for and I use it for energy testing. I will stay with rifing once a month probably if I am guided to. just said to rife if and when I get a flare up. I am now running 690 on the coil and today was directed to run Protozoa settings. The battle certainly is far from over, but I am now seeing some light at the end of the tunnel. > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an EPFX SCIO > > came over last night and ran me on her program to see what issues came up > > with me. It was interesting that the last time she ran me Lyme 4 came up as > > a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not come up at all. It has taken almost 4 > > years to do it, but I think I am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest > > progress has been made in the past year with the coil machine. The bad news > > was that Ascaris and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is > > thought to be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided > > energetically lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for > > Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma herx for me > > is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so neurological. Anyway, I > > thought it was good to get a Confirmation from Shirley's machine that I am > > on the right track with my energy testing. I just hope it is not another 4 > > years to eradicate the Mycoplasma fermentens. > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Hi Lena, Well when I started rifing, I was using the EMEM and did the wrong protocol. I was running strings of Lyme frequencies from the CAFL. Although, I don't think it hurt to do this, I think that 432 is the real Lyme killer and I was probably wasting a lot of energy. I also think that the EMEM wasn't quite strong enough to get it all and it eventually flared up again. I am hoping that with occasional treatments that the Lyme will not rear it' ugly head. I have run the Mycoplasma settings now 3 times, but I could only get to 5 minutes before I had a massive herx. I have noticed that there is now less tension in the back of my head and that the head tremor might be better except during the herx. I am thinking that the coil will probably get the Mycoplasma faster then the Lyme as I could only do 15 seconds with the coil when I first started. I will be glad that the only detox I have to worry about is metals. I am glad that you are also 90% better. This is huge for both of us!!! It seems like you and I have been after it for so long. Love and Hugs, > > > Hi All, > > > > My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an > > EPFX SCIO came over last night and ran me on her program to see > > what issues came up with me. It was interesting that the last time > > she ran me Lyme 4 came up as a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not > > come up at all. It has taken almost 4 years to do it, but I think I > > am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest progress has been made in > > the past year with the coil machine. The bad news was that Ascaris > > and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is thought to > > be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided energetically > > lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for > > Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma > > herx for me is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so > > neurological. Anyway, I thought it was good to get a Confirmation > > from Shirley's machine that I am on the right track with my energy > > testing. I just hope it is not another 4 years to eradicate the > > Mycoplasma fermentens. > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Hi ,This is terrific news! Congrats!! I hope the mycoplasma goes much quicker for you than the lyme. It just has to -- your immune system is stronger now and you are very in tune with your body. :-)Have a great weekend!Kara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Thanks Kara, I still have a ways to go, If I can get past the leaky gut, then the allergies would probably resolve. I think the protozoa and fungus combined with the Mycoplasma are still going to be plenty challenging and are major contributing factors to the allergic reactivity. As said it is like peeling the onion one layer at a time. Take care, > > Hi , > > This is terrific news! Congrats!! I hope the mycoplasma goes much quicker for you than the lyme. It just has to -- your immune system is stronger now and you are very in tune with your body. :-) > > Have a great weekend! > Kara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 told me to coil every other day on 690. This may not work too well for me though, as my body is so slow to detox stuff. I tried that this week and it was tough to go to work let alone drive. I am just going to let my intuition guide me on this one. I did Lyme every Thursday night for about 12 months on the coil and it is pretty much gone now. I tried to plan my coil session around my work schedule. I am thinking once summer kicks in then I will be able to hit the coil a bit harder as it won't matter if the herxes flatten me for a couple of days as I won't have to work. Take care, > > > > Hi All, > > > > My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an EPFX SCIO came over last night and ran me on her program to see what issues came up with me. It was interesting that the last time she ran me Lyme 4 came up as a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not come up at all. It has taken almost 4 years to do it, but I think I am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest progress has been made in the past year with the coil machine. The bad news was that Ascaris and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is thought to be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided energetically lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma herx for me is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so neurological. Anyway, I thought it was good to get a Confirmation from Shirley's machine that I am on the right track with my energy testing. I just hope it is not another 4 years to eradicate the Mycoplasma fermentens. > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Hey, Guys and gals,My Lyme is also not showing up with energy testing. But Babs is rearing its head big time. My CD57 IS 399. Extremely high and said do to with Co's or other infections. Not sure how accurate this test is. Good to hear of positives with people knocking lyme down. JoyceSubject: Re: OT: The Good news and the bad news.To: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:41 PM Okay Lena, What is this "I don't have Lyme anymore week! :-) Good for you too! Jim > > > Hi All, > > > > My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an > > EPFX SCIO came over last night and ran me on her program to see > > what issues came up with me. It was interesting that the last time > > she ran me Lyme 4 came up as a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not > > come up at all. It has taken almost 4 years to do it, but I think I > > am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest progress has been made in > > the past year with the coil machine. The bad news was that Ascaris > > and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is thought to > > be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided energetically > > lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for > > Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma > > herx for me is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so > > neurological. Anyway, I thought it was good to get a Confirmation > > from Shirley's machine that I am on the right track with my energy > > testing. I just hope it is not another 4 years to eradicate the > > Mycoplasma fermentens. > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Hi Jim, Actually, I've suspected that my Borellia has been gone for several months now, but I didn't want to invite trouble by saying so. I still have psoriasis, fungal issues, and must build up my muscles and energy again, and still am prone to uveitis, occasional brain fog, but my immune system is re-establishing itself, my temperature is more stable, sleep is getting better, and this Lymie feels like a 'normie' many days. Now, I'm doing the maximum repeats with the Sutherland frx, and herxes are brief and mild for most of the series. Yay! Be well,Léna Okay Lena, What is this "I don't have Lyme anymore week! :-) Good for you too! Jim > > > Hi All, > > > > My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an > > EPFX SCIO came over last night and ran me on her program to see > > what issues came up with me. It was interesting that the last time > > she ran me Lyme 4 came up as a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not > > come up at all. It has taken almost 4 years to do it, but I think I > > am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest progress has been made in > > the past year with the coil machine. The bad news was that Ascaris > > and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is thought to > > be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided energetically > > lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for > > Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma > > herx for me is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so > > neurological. Anyway, I thought it was good to get a Confirmation > > from Shirley's machine that I am on the right track with my energy > > testing. I just hope it is not another 4 years to eradicate the > > Mycoplasma fermentens. > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Hi ,It has been a long time, made more bearable by people like you. I also value the whole Lyme experience, as it pried me loose from so many attachments and illusions. For a long time that series of losses hurt, but now my life has a simplicity and spareness that suits me and the husband and friends I have left are true-blue!Life is good and worth fighting for.Be well, my dear one,Léna Hi Lena, Well when I started rifing, I was using the EMEM and did the wrong protocol. I was running strings of Lyme frequencies from the CAFL. Although, I don't think it hurt to do this, I think that 432 is the real Lyme killer and I was probably wasting a lot of energy. I also think that the EMEM wasn't quite strong enough to get it all and it eventually flared up again. I am hoping that with occasional treatments that the Lyme will not rear it' ugly head. I have run the Mycoplasma settings now 3 times, but I could only get to 5 minutes before I had a massive herx. I have noticed that there is now less tension in the back of my head and that the head tremor might be better except during the herx. I am thinking that the coil will probably get the Mycoplasma faster then the Lyme as I could only do 15 seconds with the coil when I first started. I will be glad that the only detox I have to worry about is metals. I am glad that you are also 90% better. This is huge for both of us!!! It seems like you and I have been after it for so long. Love and Hugs, > > > Hi All, > > > > My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an > > EPFX SCIO came over last night and ran me on her program to see > > what issues came up with me. It was interesting that the last time > > she ran me Lyme 4 came up as a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not > > come up at all. It has taken almost 4 years to do it, but I think I > > am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest progress has been made in > > the past year with the coil machine. The bad news was that Ascaris > > and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is thought to > > be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided energetically > > lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for > > Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma > > herx for me is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so > > neurological. Anyway, I thought it was good to get a Confirmation > > from Shirley's machine that I am on the right track with my energy > > testing. I just hope it is not another 4 years to eradicate the > > Mycoplasma fermentens. > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Okay Joyce, What is going on! Three of you now think Lyme is caput in just a day! None of my support groups ever had this kind of success... :-) AND the sad news is don't trust the CD-57 test... This unfortunately is not a good reliable test... Marc posted this a while back: >>>>We were at one time looking at Stricker's CD57 test as a better 'monitor' of the overall condition during treatment, but could not ultimately. We have since found many LLMDs do not adhere to this test either. The main problem we had is that it can vary, in fact, if in the midst of a herx or flare-up, is often seen lower. Which would make sense as its measuring immune and not actual microbial load. To udnerscore the variability, there have been cases of folks feeling poorly with normal to high NK counts, and conversely, folks feeling better overall with lower NK. I know if one gal feeling significantly better all the way around and showing 0 (that's zero) NK count(!) Until a better monitor benchmark is found, folks keeping regular diaries and logs and comparing gains, as well as notable symptom improvement, appears to be the most empirical way to gauge progresss<<<<< What he says of folks with a low number feeling good and with a high number feeling badly is what I have seen of some Lymies also... Keep up the good work!! Jim :-) > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an > > > > EPFX SCIO came over last night and ran me on her program to see > > > > what issues came up with me. It was interesting that the last time > > > > she ran me Lyme 4 came up as a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not > > > > come up at all. It has taken almost 4 years to do it, but I think I > > > > am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest progress has been made in > > > > the past year with the coil machine. The bad news was that Ascaris > > > > and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is thought to > > > > be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided energetically > > > > lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for > > > > Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma > > > > herx for me is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so > > > > neurological. Anyway, I thought it was good to get a Confirmation > > > > from Shirley's machine that I am on the right track with my energy > > > > testing. I just hope it is not another 4 years to eradicate the > > > > Mycoplasma fermentens. > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 I have been very leery of saying so, but I think my lyme is either gone or on the way out. I'm still dealing with some other issues like mycoplasma and babesia, but my god it feels so much better to have this one big thing knocked down and I hope, out. I cannot say enough good things about teasel root tincture. Almost since the 2nd week of taking it, I have felt uplifted and it's holding. In addition, I can sleep longer without having to get up to pee, like 7 or 8 hours. And.....my facial cysts and related acne are completely gone. I feel like a walking miracle. It's spring and I am happy!To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Fri, April 9, 2010 3:41:51 PMSubject: Re: OT: The Good news and the bad news. Okay Lena, What is this "I don't have Lyme anymore week! :-) Good for you too! Jim > > > Hi All, > > > > My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an > > EPFX SCIO came over last night and ran me on her program to see > > what issues came up with me. It was interesting that the last time > > she ran me Lyme 4 came up as a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not > > come up at all. It has taken almost 4 years to do it, but I think I > > am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest progress has been made in > > the past year with the coil machine. The bad news was that Ascaris > > and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is thought to > > be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided energetically > > lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for > > Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma > > herx for me is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so > > neurological. Anyway, I thought it was good to get a Confirmation > > from Shirley's machine that I am on the right track with my energy > > testing. I just hope it is not another 4 years to eradicate the > > Mycoplasma fermentens. > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Hi , Unfortunately, you working and having Lyme (can I still say this of you :-) ) presents a different set of problems as you sure can't afford a bad herx on the days you are working.. I agree with you hitting this harder while you are off from work... That is going to be your big chance to get ahead of the Myco... I sure want to follow your success on this, for many Myco is tough to rid, but they didn't rife, but used other protocols including abx... Jim > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an EPFX SCIO came over last night and ran me on her program to see what issues came up with me. It was interesting that the last time she ran me Lyme 4 came up as a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not come up at all. It has taken almost 4 years to do it, but I think I am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest progress has been made in the past year with the coil machine. The bad news was that Ascaris and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is thought to be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided energetically lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma herx for me is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so neurological. Anyway, I thought it was good to get a Confirmation from Shirley's machine that I am on the right track with my energy testing. I just hope it is not another 4 years to eradicate the Mycoplasma fermentens. > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Hi Jim, I know all the controversy about this test. Lots of different ideas about it,like everythings else. I am mainly saying that Lyme is hiding or gone when my doc or I energy test. Would be nice if its gone. Time will tell. All I know is Babs is kicking my butt big time along with dumping metals a toxins. I was not CD57 tested when I was first dxed with lyme and co by Igenx. I was CDC positive. I wonder what it would have said before treatment. Will never know that one. Healing Hugs JSubject: Re: OT: The Good news and the bad news.To: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 4:13 PM Okay Joyce, What is going on! Three of you now think Lyme is caput in just a day! None of my support groups ever had this kind of success... :-) AND the sad news is don't trust the CD-57 test... This unfortunately is not a good reliable test... Marc posted this a while back: >>>>We were at one time looking at Stricker's CD57 test as a better 'monitor' of the overall condition during treatment, but could not ultimately. We have since found many LLMDs do not adhere to this test either. The main problem we had is that it can vary, in fact, if in the midst of a herx or flare-up, is often seen lower. Which would make sense as its measuring immune and not actual microbial load. To udnerscore the variability, there have been cases of folks feeling poorly with normal to high NK counts, and conversely, folks feeling better overall with lower NK. I know if one gal feeling significantly better all the way around and showing 0 (that's zero) NK count(!) Until a better monitor benchmark is found, folks keeping regular diaries and logs and comparing gains, as well as notable symptom improvement, appears to be the most empirical way to gauge progresss<<< << What he says of folks with a low number feeling good and with a high number feeling badly is what I have seen of some Lymies also... Keep up the good work!! Jim :-) > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an > > > > EPFX SCIO came over last night and ran me on her program to see > > > > what issues came up with me. It was interesting that the last time > > > > she ran me Lyme 4 came up as a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not > > > > come up at all. It has taken almost 4 years to do it, but I think I > > > > am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest progress has been made in > > > > the past year with the coil machine. The bad news was that Ascaris > > > > and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is thought to > > > > be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided energetically > > > > lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for > > > > Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma > > > > herx for me is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so > > > > neurological. Anyway, I thought it was good to get a Confirmation > > > > from Shirley's machine that I am on the right track with my energy > > > > testing. I just hope it is not another 4 years to eradicate the > > > > Mycoplasma fermentens. > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Hi Lena, Yes, good thinking... I have believed for some time now Bb is highly intelligent and I would not doubt for a second they read your thoughts... :-) So best to keep this hush - hush! Have you tried mag oil for your psoriasis? I think I may have mentioned this to you once before... It may help... Check out this link, it is written by " phaelosopher " who is actually Adam Abraham, the health reporter... His info is usually pretty good... http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2007/09/10/understanding-magnesium-replenishme\ nt-transdermally/ >>>I spoke to a man the other day whose son has an extreme case of psoriasis. He gave his son some " magnesium oil " (actually contains no oil). When he applied it, it was like someone had put liquid fire on his back. He summarily put the magnesium down, and didn't pick it up again. What happened? I told his dad that this is what happens when magnesium chloride encounters toxins, pathogens, or heavy metal deposits that have lodged themselves in skin tissue. The magnesium chloride solution — which tests have shown contain virtually no toxins or impurities — would cause no discomfort if applied to tissue areas that have no toxin or heavy metal buildup. Since magnesium works in ionic form, entering inside each cell, it is crucial that a sufficient supply of magnesium ions are available. When they enter through the skin, they will encounter toxins where they reside. Sensations experienced can range from mild itching to wildly painful. I call it a " shootout at the OK corral. " If you know what's happening, then you won't put the magnesium down and forget about it. You can dilute it and reapply, or add it to bath water or a foot bath. You can also apply it to another part of the body that doesn't react as dramatically. Once the magnesium has entered the body, it will be carried to the place of greatest need, where the greatest benefit can be realized. As your levels get to normal — whatever that is for you — any discomfort that you may have experienced, will abate. All you need to know is that it's critical to the restoration and maintenance of your health.<<<< So really, good to hear of you progress and don't let your guard down, Bb does have a history of coming back sometimes... Do you no longer have any fatigue either? Take care, Jim > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an > > > > EPFX SCIO came over last night and ran me on her program to see > > > > what issues came up with me. It was interesting that the last time > > > > she ran me Lyme 4 came up as a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not > > > > come up at all. It has taken almost 4 years to do it, but I > > think I > > > > am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest progress has been made in > > > > the past year with the coil machine. The bad news was that Ascaris > > > > and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is > > thought to > > > > be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided energetically > > > > lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for > > > > Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma > > > > herx for me is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so > > > > neurological. Anyway, I thought it was good to get a Confirmation > > > > from Shirley's machine that I am on the right track with my energy > > > > testing. I just hope it is not another 4 years to eradicate the > > > > Mycoplasma fermentens. > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Alright , Come clean with me, what's going on! Are you all now in the ex-Lyme club! :-) Good to hear, keep this up and don't trust this bacteria, it does have a history of coming back... Do a maintenance protocol just to be sure... I am very happy for you also! Jim > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an > > > EPFX SCIO came over last night and ran me on her program to see > > > what issues came up with me. It was interesting that the last time > > > she ran me Lyme 4 came up as a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not > > > come up at all. It has taken almost 4 years to do it, but I think I > > > am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest progress has been made in > > > the past year with the coil machine. The bad news was that Ascaris > > > and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is thought to > > > be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided energetically > > > lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for > > > Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma > > > herx for me is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so > > > neurological. Anyway, I thought it was good to get a Confirmation > > > from Shirley's machine that I am on the right track with my energy > > > testing. I just hope it is not another 4 years to eradicate the > > > Mycoplasma fermentens. > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Hi Joyce, S found as he killed off Lyme, another coinfection appeared, and when he killed it off, another one appeared... This kinda made me think these bacteria do have a pecking order, the strongest one you are always dealing with, when it is gone, the next strongest appears... And from what other are saying, they confirm this.. Keep up the good work! Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an > > > > > > > > EPFX SCIO came over last night and ran me on her program to see > > > > > > > > what issues came up with me. It was interesting that the last time > > > > > > > > she ran me Lyme 4 came up as a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not > > > > > > > > come up at all. It has taken almost 4 years to do it, but I think I > > > > > > > > am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest progress has been made in > > > > > > > > the past year with the coil machine. The bad news was that Ascaris > > > > > > > > and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is thought to > > > > > > > > be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided energetically > > > > > > > > lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for > > > > > > > > Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma > > > > > > > > herx for me is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so > > > > > > > > neurological. Anyway, I thought it was good to get a Confirmation > > > > > > > > from Shirley's machine that I am on the right track with my energy > > > > > > > > testing. I just hope it is not another 4 years to eradicate the > > > > > > > > Mycoplasma fermentens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Hey Jim,That is my experience also. I have been tested for years for parasites with stool tests and nothing showed up. When I first started killing lyme and co all kinds of parasites showed up in the stool test. This is after yrs of nothing. I had knocked down Babs and now its up again. Myco also was here and then disapeared as well as bart. They r having a good time keeping me on my toes. KPU has changed the picture, hard to keep up with whats going on. I think we need to invent a good guy critter that we can take internally and it can gobble all of these things up. Anyway,slowly I go peeling the onion layers. Happy peeling everyone. JoyceFrom: Sunshine Subject: Re: OT: The Good news and the bad news.To: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 5:13 PM Hi Joyce, S found as he killed off Lyme, another coinfection appeared, and when he killed it off, another one appeared... This kinda made me think these bacteria do have a pecking order, the strongest one you are always dealing with, when it is gone, the next strongest appears... And from what other are saying, they confirm this.. Keep up the good work! Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My friend Shirley who was out visiting from Minnesota and has an > > > > > > > > EPFX SCIO came over last night and ran me on her program to see > > > > > > > > what issues came up with me. It was interesting that the last time > > > > > > > > she ran me Lyme 4 came up as a Big issue. Yesterday, Lyme did not > > > > > > > > come up at all. It has taken almost 4 years to do it, but I think I > > > > > > > > am past Lyme (knock on wood) My biggest progress has been made in > > > > > > > > the past year with the coil machine. The bad news was that Ascaris > > > > > > > > and Protozoa came up along with Chronic Fatigue which is thought to > > > > > > > > be Mycoplasma Fermentens related. I have been guided energetically > > > > > > > > lately to no longer rife for Lyme and to rife instead for > > > > > > > > Mycoplasma. OMG! I forgot how bad herxes can get. The Mycoplasma > > > > > > > > herx for me is worse then the Lyme herx, because it is so > > > > > > > > neurological. Anyway, I thought it was good to get a Confirmation > > > > > > > > from Shirley's machine that I am on the right track with my energy > > > > > > > > testing. I just hope it is not another 4 years to eradicate the > > > > > > > > Mycoplasma fermentens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 thinks it is better to pick off one infection at a time. I think his main rationale for sticking with one frequency is that you can see if you experience herxes on the individual frequency. If you don't then you can assume at least for now that you don't have that infection. I did strickly 432 this past year and before that I was running all manner of frequencies. It wasn't until I started solely on 432 that I really felt like I had made a lot of progress. I tried rifing for Mycoplasma last spring and never really herxed. Now that the Lyme is gone, I am definitely herxing from running 690. Once Mycoplasma gets eradicated, who knows maybe some other infection will rear it's ugly head, but I do hope that I am close to the end as this has been such a long process about 4 years. Although I am working on parasites and Mycoplasma simultaneously because I haven't experienced any herxing from running parasite settings. I would not add Candida into the mix though as the metals dumping causes a huge herx. > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: OT: The Good news and the bad news. > > To: Lyme_and_Rife > > Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 5:13 PM > > > > > > > > > > Hi Joyce, > > > > S found as he killed off Lyme, another coinfection appeared, and when > > he killed it off, > > another one appeared... This kinda made me think these bacteria do have a > > pecking order, > > the strongest one you are always dealing with, when it is gone, the next > > strongest > > appears... > > > > And from what other are saying, they confirm this.. > > > > Keep up the good work! > > > > Jim > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 thinks it is better to pick off one infection at a time. I think his main rationale for sticking with one frequency is that you can see if you experience herxes on the individual frequency. If you don't then you can assume at least for now that you don't have that infection. I did strickly 432 this past year and before that I was running all manner of frequencies. It wasn't until I started solely on 432 that I really felt like I had made a lot of progress. I tried rifing for Mycoplasma last spring and never really herxed. Now that the Lyme is gone, I am definitely herxing from running 690. Once Mycoplasma gets eradicated, who knows maybe some other infection will rear it's ugly head, but I do hope that I am close to the end as this has been such a long process about 4 years. Although I am working on parasites and Mycoplasma simultaneously because I haven't experienced any herxing from running parasite settings. I would not add Candida into the mix though as the metals dumping causes a huge herx. > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: OT: The Good news and the bad news. > > To: Lyme_and_Rife > > Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 5:13 PM > > > > > > > > > > Hi Joyce, > > > > S found as he killed off Lyme, another coinfection appeared, and when > > he killed it off, > > another one appeared... This kinda made me think these bacteria do have a > > pecking order, > > the strongest one you are always dealing with, when it is gone, the next > > strongest > > appears... > > > > And from what other are saying, they confirm this.. > > > > Keep up the good work! > > > > Jim > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Yeah, I know did one thing at a time, but I don't know if he realized he has so many co-infections. ?It would be interesting to know what percentage of people are treating one at a time and what percentage are doing multiple diseases. This would be interesting to track. L thinks it is better to pick off one infection at a time. I think his main rationale for sticking with one frequency is that you can see if you experience herxes on the individual frequency. If you don't then you can assume at least for now that you don't have that infection. I did strickly 432 this past year and before that I was running all manner of frequencies. It wasn't until I started solely on 432 that I really felt like I had made a lot of progress. I tried rifing for Mycoplasma last spring and never really herxed. Now that the Lyme is gone, I am definitely herxing from running 690. Once Mycoplasma gets eradicated, who knows maybe some other infection will rear it's ugly head, but I do hope that I am close to the end as this has been such a long process about 4 years. Although I am working on parasites and Mycoplasma simultaneously because I haven't experienced any herxing from running parasite settings. I would not add Candida into the mix though as the metals dumping causes a huge herx. > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: OT: The Good news and the bad news. > > To: Lyme_and_Rife > > Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 5:13 PM > > > > > > > > > > Hi Joyce, > > > > S found as he killed off Lyme, another coinfection appeared, and when > > he killed it off, > > another one appeared... This kinda made me think these bacteria do have a > > pecking order, > > the strongest one you are always dealing with, when it is gone, the next > > strongest > > appears... > > > > And from what other are saying, they confirm this.. > > > > Keep up the good work! > > > > Jim > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 , Do you do any " maintenance " against Lyme? How would you know if it came back? deb > > thinks it is better to pick off one infection at a time. I think his main rationale for sticking with one frequency is that you can see if you experience herxes on the individual frequency. If you don't then you can assume at least for now that you don't have that infection. I did strickly 432 this past year and before that I was running all manner of frequencies. It wasn't until I started solely on 432 that I really felt like I had made a lot of progress. I tried rifing for Mycoplasma last spring and never really herxed. Now that the Lyme is gone, I am definitely herxing from running 690. Once Mycoplasma gets eradicated, who knows maybe some other infection will rear it's ugly head, but I do hope that I am close to the end as this has been such a long process about 4 years. Although I am working on parasites and Mycoplasma simultaneously because I haven't experienced any herxing from running parasite settings. I would not add Candida into the mix though as the metals dumping causes a huge herx. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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