Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 The sublimation of war is SPORT! Providing it can be kept in the vessel. In Greece, wars were stopped during the Olympics. The sublimation of the warrior is the knight, who protects and defends........? in haste love ao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 In a message dated 7/12/2004 4:15:28 PM Central Daylight Time, IonaDove@... writes: >The sublimation of war is SPORT! Providing it can be kept in the vessel. Interesting synchronicity. I'd just written something similar to this in my journal yesterday, though in much more casual words. My musings led me to the conclusion that, no matter how horrible and terrible war is, it often, if not usually, provides a forum in which human beings are stretched beyond their limits, sometimes for good, sometimes for ill. Games, on the other hand, no matter how valiantly they're fought, don't have the thrill of life or death (well, except in the case of soccer, maybe *WEG*) that adds an intensity that no sport ever can. Unless you get into the extreme sports. Of course, with those you have the potential for loss of life but it's not in the context of competition in many cases, e.g., scaling Mt. Everest (which, as an aside, in both Nepal and Tibet, has names that call it a goddess). Still, there's room for evolution of sport. Maybe the extreme games are the beginnings. Wasn't there an old Star Trek episode where there were civilizations that had computer games instead of wars? Only there, when the game was won, the number of dead on the loser's side quietly walked into death rays or something? So, war without the blood. What good is that as a learning experience? Oh, well. Namasté Sam in Texas §(ô¿ô)§ Vision without action is a daydream. Action without vision is a nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 In a message dated 7/12/2004 5:15:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, IonaDove@... writes: The sublimation of the warrior is the knight, who protects and defends........? So why leave all the burdens of War on the poor weary Knight when all of the other pieces on the board have their own role to play in the Struggle for Existence state of human endeavor! The Mutt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 Dear Alice, IonaDove@... wrote: > The sublimation of war is SPORT! Providing it can be kept in the vessel. In the modern world it is also capitalism - yes, providing it can be kept in the vessel. Think of Mr. Gates. Regards, Dan > > > In Greece, wars were stopped during the Olympics. > > The sublimation of the warrior is the knight, who protects and > defends........? > > in haste > > love > > ao > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 > -----Original Message----- > From: sampatron@... > Still, there's room for evolution of sport. Maybe the > extreme games are the > beginnings. Wasn't there an old Star Trek episode where there were > civilizations that had computer games instead of wars? Only > there, when the game was > won, the number of dead on the loser's side quietly walked > into death rays or > something? So, war without the blood. What good is that as > a learning > experience? Oh, well. This reminds me of a scene from " Patton " where GC as the title character is asked by a reporter about the " future " of warfare... something about how future wars would be fought by machines and technology and button-pushing by enemies who never actually faced each other in combat in the field. Patton's response is along the lines of, without true combat, without that physical face off between combatants, there's no opportunity for individual courage or heroism to be made manifest. War without heroes? He wasn't interested, lol. I agree that war, like so many overwhelming traumatic experiences, can cause individuals to " dig deep " (or be plunged there) and find both the best and the worst of the potential that lies within them. Conflict of one kind or another, I think, is both unavoidable and necessary for growth, whether one walks into it with conscious intent or is simply thrown into the fray by circumstance. Kione Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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