Guest guest Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 You should have a reliever inhaler with you at all times if you are asthmatic, no matter what triggers it. I very rarely need mine, but I always have it in my bag when I go out, just in case.JennTha can tek t'lass outta Yorkshire...! Don't brand me, don't classify me, don't tell me what to wear. I'll be who I want to be, and I'm proud to be me.From: Sheri Luckett Subject: Re: Dealing with my employerTo: "asthma " <asthma >Date: Wednesday, 17 August, 2011, 23:24 Well, the human resources lady finally called me back and we had a very nice conversation. She listened to everything I had to say and gave me good advice for dealing with the employee who started all this ruckus to begin with. She agreed that it was perfectly okay for me to politely request that people working with me use the cleaners by pouring them into a rag or using them out of a bucket instead of spraying them with the spray bottle. While I was at the doctor's office picking up my documentation to prove my diagnosis to the guy who accused me of lying, I also made an appointment with the doctor. Recently when someone forgot and sprayed the chemicals and I had an attack, an EMT happened to come to the store and offered to let me use his Advair inhaler. Since I knew he was an EMT, I accepted his offer. It worked quickly and very well. So, I am going to tell that to my doctor and ask him for a prescription for it. I'm not going to use it everyday, though, just when I have a problem. The EMT said it can be used for emergencies but not more than once (or twice?) a day and that it is usually taken once a day to prevent problems. But since the only times I have problems with my asthma are when I have a cold or somebody is too much of a jerk not to use a spray bottle, I don't want to take it all the time. As far as my being shy goes, I also have overcome that in a lot of ways due to working with the public. But when it comes to having a confrontation with someone...ooh, I hate that. I don't want to argue! I don't want to rock the boat. But I do need to stand up for myself and not allow others to walk on me, which I did allow for most of my life. An assertiveness class I took on line has helped me learn the skills to do that, so I am much better at it now. Still hate doing it though.SheriTo: asthma Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:03 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  I can see you are not Sheri and it was uncalled for IMO to be rude to you. Again in my opinion I think as long as you can wet a cloth and clean the item it would be reasonable accommodations!! I always was a shy person too, but being administrator of an assisted living got it out of me to some extent. I was always much better at standing up for others than myself however!! Re: Dealing with my employer Thank you, . I am not an obnoxious person. I am actually a very shy person who has trouble being assertive. That's why I never asked for the district manager to intervene in the first place. Somebody else reported to the first DM that I was having problems. I do not want to be on disability or to get special services or special employment or unemployment. I just want to go to work and do the job I have been doing for 13 years. I have never caused any problems on my job and I am not trying to cause a problem now. I am trying to learn whether using an alternative cleaning method is within the guidelines of the "reasonable accommodations" and I truly cannot see how it can be unreasonable to not use a spray bottle. Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Oh, that sounds good. I know how to speak up for myself too, learned the hard way, but, I still think before doing it, there are so many unusual tempered people out there today, and seems like they always zero in on me for some reason. I hate having to confront people, I don't even like that word. I would rather say, try to work things out. LOL.To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:24 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Well, the human resources lady finally called me back and we had a very nice conversation. She listened to everything I had to say and gave me good advice for dealing with the employee who started all this ruckus to begin with. She agreed that it was perfectly okay for me to politely request that people working with me use the cleaners by pouring them into a rag or using them out of a bucket instead of spraying them with the spray bottle. While I was at the doctor's office picking up my documentation to prove my diagnosis to the guy who accused me of lying, I also made an appointment with the doctor. Recently when someone forgot and sprayed the chemicals and I had an attack, an EMT happened to come to the store and offered to let me use his Advair inhaler. Since I knew he was an EMT, I accepted his offer. It worked quickly and very well. So, I am going to tell that to my doctor and ask him for a prescription for it. I'm not going to use it everyday, though, just when I have a problem. The EMT said it can be used for emergencies but not more than once (or twice?) a day and that it is usually taken once a day to prevent problems. But since the only times I have problems with my asthma are when I have a cold or somebody is too much of a jerk not to use a spray bottle, I don't want to take it all the time. As far as my being shy goes, I also have overcome that in a lot of ways due to working with the public. But when it comes to having a confrontation with someone...ooh, I hate that. I don't want to argue! I don't want to rock the boat. But I do need to stand up for myself and not allow others to walk on me, which I did allow for most of my life. An assertiveness class I took on line has helped me learn the skills to do that, so I am much better at it now. Still hate doing it though.SheriTo: asthma Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:03 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  I can see you are not Sheri and it was uncalled for IMO to be rude to you. Again in my opinion I think as long as you can wet a cloth and clean the item it would be reasonable accommodations!! I always was a shy person too, but being administrator of an assisted living got it out of me to some extent. I was always much better at standing up for others than myself however!! Re: Dealing with my employer Thank you, . I am not an obnoxious person. I am actually a very shy person who has trouble being assertive. That's why I never asked for the district manager to intervene in the first place. Somebody else reported to the first DM that I was having problems. I do not want to be on disability or to get special services or special employment or unemployment. I just want to go to work and do the job I have been doing for 13 years. I have never caused any problems on my job and I am not trying to cause a problem now. I am trying to learn whether using an alternative cleaning method is within the guidelines of the "reasonable accommodations" and I truly cannot see how it can be unreasonable to not use a spray bottle. Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Sheri I am so glad you had a good conversation with your HR person. I hope people will respond positively to your simple request. I use my rescue inhaler at least once a day and frequently twice. It is a wonderful way to manage an asthma attack. If you find you need to use it more regularly you should see your doctor again. I only use it this often because we have not been able to figure out a way to successfully control my asthma without it. And very few people like conflict or confrontation. Good for you for taking the class and recognizing that it is a good skill to have.  Well, the human resources lady finally called me back and we had a very nice conversation. She listened to everything I had to say and gave me good advice for dealing with the employee who started all this ruckus to begin with. She agreed that it was perfectly okay for me to politely request that people working with me use the cleaners by pouring them into a rag or using them out of a bucket instead of spraying them with the spray bottle. While I was at the doctor's office picking up my documentation to prove my diagnosis to the guy who accused me of lying, I also made an appointment with the doctor. Recently when someone forgot and sprayed the chemicals and I had an attack, an EMT happened to come to the store and offered to let me use his Advair inhaler. Since I knew he was an EMT, I accepted his offer. It worked quickly and very well. So, I am going to tell that to my doctor and ask him for a prescription for it. I'm not going to use it everyday, though, just when I have a problem. The EMT said it can be used for emergencies but not more than once (or twice?) a day and that it is usually taken once a day to prevent problems. But since the only times I have problems with my asthma are when I have a cold or somebody is too much of a jerk not to use a spray bottle, I don't want to take it all the time. As far as my being shy goes, I also have overcome that in a lot of ways due to working with the public. But when it comes to having a confrontation with someone...ooh, I hate that. I don't want to argue! I don't want to rock the boat. But I do need to stand up for myself and not allow others to walk on me, which I did allow for most of my life. An assertiveness class I took on line has helped me learn the skills to do that, so I am much better at it now. Still hate doing it though. Sheri To: asthma Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:03 PM Subject: Re: Dealing with my employer   I can see you are not Sheri and it was uncalled for IMO to be rude to you. Again in my opinion I think as long as you can wet a cloth and clean the item it would be reasonable accommodations!!  I always was a shy person too, but being administrator of an assisted living got it out of me to some extent. I was always much better at standing up for others than myself however!!   Re: Dealing with my employer Thank you, . I am not an obnoxious person. I am actually a very shy person who has trouble being assertive. That's why I never asked for the district manager to intervene in the first place. Somebody else reported to the first DM that I was having problems. I do not want to be on disability or to get special services or special employment or unemployment. I just want to go to work and do the job I have been doing for 13 years. I have never caused any problems on my job and I am not trying to cause a problem now. I am trying to learn whether using an alternative cleaning method is within the guidelines of the " reasonable accommodations " and I truly cannot see how it can be unreasonable to not use a spray bottle. Sheri  -- Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 I will keep it in my purse once I get it. Thanks!To: asthma Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:56 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer You should have a reliever inhaler with you at all times if you are asthmatic, no matter what triggers it. I very rarely need mine, but I always have it in my bag when I go out, just in case.JennTha can tek t'lass outta Yorkshire...! Don't brand me, don't classify me, don't tell me what to wear. I'll be who I want to be, and I'm proud to be me.From: Sheri Luckett Subject: Re: Dealing with my employerTo: "asthma " <asthma >Date: Wednesday, 17 August, 2011, 23:24 Well, the human resources lady finally called me back and we had a very nice conversation. She listened to everything I had to say and gave me good advice for dealing with the employee who started all this ruckus to begin with. She agreed that it was perfectly okay for me to politely request that people working with me use the cleaners by pouring them into a rag or using them out of a bucket instead of spraying them with the spray bottle. While I was at the doctor's office picking up my documentation to prove my diagnosis to the guy who accused me of lying, I also made an appointment with the doctor. Recently when someone forgot and sprayed the chemicals and I had an attack, an EMT happened to come to the store and offered to let me use his Advair inhaler. Since I knew he was an EMT, I accepted his offer. It worked quickly and very well. So, I am going to tell that to my doctor and ask him for a prescription for it. I'm not going to use it everyday, though, just when I have a problem. The EMT said it can be used for emergencies but not more than once (or twice?) a day and that it is usually taken once a day to prevent problems. But since the only times I have problems with my asthma are when I have a cold or somebody is too much of a jerk not to use a spray bottle, I don't want to take it all the time. As far as my being shy goes, I also have overcome that in a lot of ways due to working with the public. But when it comes to having a confrontation with someone...ooh, I hate that. I don't want to argue! I don't want to rock the boat. But I do need to stand up for myself and not allow others to walk on me, which I did allow for most of my life. An assertiveness class I took on line has helped me learn the skills to do that, so I am much better at it now. Still hate doing it though.SheriTo: asthma Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:03 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  I can see you are not Sheri and it was uncalled for IMO to be rude to you. Again in my opinion I think as long as you can wet a cloth and clean the item it would be reasonable accommodations!! I always was a shy person too, but being administrator of an assisted living got it out of me to some extent. I was always much better at standing up for others than myself however!! Re: Dealing with my employer Thank you, . I am not an obnoxious person. I am actually a very shy person who has trouble being assertive. That's why I never asked for the district manager to intervene in the first place. Somebody else reported to the first DM that I was having problems. I do not want to be on disability or to get special services or special employment or unemployment. I just want to go to work and do the job I have been doing for 13 years. I have never caused any problems on my job and I am not trying to cause a problem now. I am trying to learn whether using an alternative cleaning method is within the guidelines of the "reasonable accommodations" and I truly cannot see how it can be unreasonable to not use a spray bottle. Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 One thing I have learned is that people who are abusive are experts at figuring out who they can be abusive to. That's why we get targeted over and over again. That's also why we have to learn how to not be that person that they can pick on.SheriTo: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:58 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Oh, that sounds good. I know how to speak up for myself too, learned the hard way, but, I still think before doing it, there are so many unusual tempered people out there today, and seems like they always zero in on me for some reason. I hate having to confront people, I don't even like that word. I would rather say, try to work things out. LOL.To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:24 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Well, the human resources lady finally called me back and we had a very nice conversation. She listened to everything I had to say and gave me good advice for dealing with the employee who started all this ruckus to begin with. She agreed that it was perfectly okay for me to politely request that people working with me use the cleaners by pouring them into a rag or using them out of a bucket instead of spraying them with the spray bottle. While I was at the doctor's office picking up my documentation to prove my diagnosis to the guy who accused me of lying, I also made an appointment with the doctor. Recently when someone forgot and sprayed the chemicals and I had an attack, an EMT happened to come to the store and offered to let me use his Advair inhaler. Since I knew he was an EMT, I accepted his offer. It worked quickly and very well. So, I am going to tell that to my doctor and ask him for a prescription for it. I'm not going to use it everyday, though, just when I have a problem. The EMT said it can be used for emergencies but not more than once (or twice?) a day and that it is usually taken once a day to prevent problems. But since the only times I have problems with my asthma are when I have a cold or somebody is too much of a jerk not to use a spray bottle, I don't want to take it all the time. As far as my being shy goes, I also have overcome that in a lot of ways due to working with the public. But when it comes to having a confrontation with someone...ooh, I hate that. I don't want to argue! I don't want to rock the boat. But I do need to stand up for myself and not allow others to walk on me, which I did allow for most of my life. An assertiveness class I took on line has helped me learn the skills to do that, so I am much better at it now. Still hate doing it though.SheriTo: asthma Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:03 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  I can see you are not Sheri and it was uncalled for IMO to be rude to you. Again in my opinion I think as long as you can wet a cloth and clean the item it would be reasonable accommodations!! I always was a shy person too, but being administrator of an assisted living got it out of me to some extent. I was always much better at standing up for others than myself however!! Re: Dealing with my employer Thank you, . I am not an obnoxious person. I am actually a very shy person who has trouble being assertive. That's why I never asked for the district manager to intervene in the first place. Somebody else reported to the first DM that I was having problems. I do not want to be on disability or to get special services or special employment or unemployment. I just want to go to work and do the job I have been doing for 13 years. I have never caused any problems on my job and I am not trying to cause a problem now. I am trying to learn whether using an alternative cleaning method is within the guidelines of the "reasonable accommodations" and I truly cannot see how it can be unreasonable to not use a spray bottle. Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Exactly, people always say I an naieve, ( know I didn't spell that right, it is too early in the morning yet) not so, I just refuse to act like they do, I may not get it right that minute, but, give me an hour or so, and I will definatly( ( didn't spell that right either, drinking my morning latte now) get it. I guess I just never expect people to be as nasty, and deceitful as they are. I always try to look for the good in people, and these bullies think if you aren't nasty like them that you are stupid. Far from it.From: Sheri Luckett To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:23 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer One thing I have learned is that people who are abusive are experts at figuring out who they can be abusive to. That's why we get targeted over and over again. That's also why we have to learn how to not be that person that they can pick on.SheriTo: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:58 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Oh, that sounds good. I know how to speak up for myself too, learned the hard way, but, I still think before doing it, there are so many unusual tempered people out there today, and seems like they always zero in on me for some reason. I hate having to confront people, I don't even like that word. I would rather say, try to work things out. LOL.To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:24 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Well, the human resources lady finally called me back and we had a very nice conversation. She listened to everything I had to say and gave me good advice for dealing with the employee who started all this ruckus to begin with. She agreed that it was perfectly okay for me to politely request that people working with me use the cleaners by pouring them into a rag or using them out of a bucket instead of spraying them with the spray bottle. While I was at the doctor's office picking up my documentation to prove my diagnosis to the guy who accused me of lying, I also made an appointment with the doctor. Recently when someone forgot and sprayed the chemicals and I had an attack, an EMT happened to come to the store and offered to let me use his Advair inhaler. Since I knew he was an EMT, I accepted his offer. It worked quickly and very well. So, I am going to tell that to my doctor and ask him for a prescription for it. I'm not going to use it everyday, though, just when I have a problem. The EMT said it can be used for emergencies but not more than once (or twice?) a day and that it is usually taken once a day to prevent problems. But since the only times I have problems with my asthma are when I have a cold or somebody is too much of a jerk not to use a spray bottle, I don't want to take it all the time. As far as my being shy goes, I also have overcome that in a lot of ways due to working with the public. But when it comes to having a confrontation with someone...ooh, I hate that. I don't want to argue! I don't want to rock the boat. But I do need to stand up for myself and not allow others to walk on me, which I did allow for most of my life. An assertiveness class I took on line has helped me learn the skills to do that, so I am much better at it now. Still hate doing it though.SheriTo: asthma Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:03 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  I can see you are not Sheri and it was uncalled for IMO to be rude to you. Again in my opinion I think as long as you can wet a cloth and clean the item it would be reasonable accommodations!! I always was a shy person too, but being administrator of an assisted living got it out of me to some extent. I was always much better at standing up for others than myself however!! Re: Dealing with my employer Thank you, . I am not an obnoxious person. I am actually a very shy person who has trouble being assertive. That's why I never asked for the district manager to intervene in the first place. Somebody else reported to the first DM that I was having problems. I do not want to be on disability or to get special services or special employment or unemployment. I just want to go to work and do the job I have been doing for 13 years. I have never caused any problems on my job and I am not trying to cause a problem now. I am trying to learn whether using an alternative cleaning method is within the guidelines of the "reasonable accommodations" and I truly cannot see how it can be unreasonable to not use a spray bottle. Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 I used to use my controller a lot, a lot, and I found out that I needed better maintenance meds, now I have Symbicort, and spiriva, and make sure I use them closely to the same time each day, so hardly every use my rescue inhaler anymore. Don't like taking all of these meds ,but, at least I can breathe now.To: asthma Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:32 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Sheri I am so glad you had a good conversation with your HR person. I hope people will respond positively to your simple request. I use my rescue inhaler at least once a day and frequently twice. It is a wonderful way to manage an asthma attack. If you find you need to use it more regularly you should see your doctor again. I only use it this often because we have not been able to figure out a way to successfully control my asthma without it. And very few people like conflict or confrontation. Good for you for taking the class and recognizing that it is a good skill to have. Well, the human resources lady finally called me back and we had a very nice conversation. She listened to everything I had to say and gave me good advice for dealing with the employee who started all this ruckus to begin with. She agreed that it was perfectly okay for me to politely request that people working with me use the cleaners by pouring them into a rag or using them out of a bucket instead of spraying them with the spray bottle. While I was at the doctor's office picking up my documentation to prove my diagnosis to the guy who accused me of lying, I also made an appointment with the doctor. Recently when someone forgot and sprayed the chemicals and I had an attack, an EMT happened to come to the store and offered to let me use his Advair inhaler. Since I knew he was an EMT, I accepted his offer. It worked quickly and very well. So, I am going to tell that to my doctor and ask him for a prescription for it. I'm not going to use it everyday, though, just when I have a problem. The EMT said it can be used for emergencies but not more than once (or twice?) a day and that it is usually taken once a day to prevent problems. But since the only times I have problems with my asthma are when I have a cold or somebody is too much of a jerk not to use a spray bottle, I don't want to take it all the time. As far as my being shy goes, I also have overcome that in a lot of ways due to working with the public. But when it comes to having a confrontation with someone...ooh, I hate that. I don't want to argue! I don't want to rock the boat. But I do need to stand up for myself and not allow others to walk on me, which I did allow for most of my life. An assertiveness class I took on line has helped me learn the skills to do that, so I am much better at it now. Still hate doing it though. Sheri To: asthma Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:03 PM Subject: Re: Dealing with my employer  I can see you are not Sheri and it was uncalled for IMO to be rude to you. Again in my opinion I think as long as you can wet a cloth and clean the item it would be reasonable accommodations!! I always was a shy person too, but being administrator of an assisted living got it out of me to some extent. I was always much better at standing up for others than myself however!! Re: Dealing with my employer Thank you, . I am not an obnoxious person. I am actually a very shy person who has trouble being assertive. That's why I never asked for the district manager to intervene in the first place. Somebody else reported to the first DM that I was having problems. I do not want to be on disability or to get special services or special employment or unemployment. I just want to go to work and do the job I have been doing for 13 years. I have never caused any problems on my job and I am not trying to cause a problem now. I am trying to learn whether using an alternative cleaning method is within the guidelines of the "reasonable accommodations" and I truly cannot see how it can be unreasonable to not use a spray bottle. Sheri -- Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Actually I don't think they want you to act like them at all. It is their power. It is their way to get what they want and to make themselves feel better by making others feel small. They do this generally because they are so insecure they can't afford to be vulnerable. Standing up for yourself is the best you can do and hope they are the kind that respects those who can't be intimidated.  Exactly, people always say I an naieve, ( know I didn't spell that right, it is too early in the morning yet) not so, I just refuse to act like they do, I may not get it right that minute, but, give me an hour or so, and I will definatly( ( didn't spell that right either, drinking my morning latte now) get it. I guess I just never expect people to be as nasty, and deceitful as they are. I always try to look for the good in people, and these bullies think if you aren't nasty like them that you are stupid. Far from it. From: Sheri Luckett To: " asthma " <asthma > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:23 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  One thing I have learned is that people who are abusive are experts at figuring out who they can be abusive to. That's why we get targeted over and over again. That's also why we have to learn how to not be that person that they can pick on. Sheri To: " asthma " <asthma >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:58 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  Oh, that sounds good. I know how to speak up for myself too, learned the hard way, but, I still think before doing it, there are so many unusual tempered people out there today, and seems like they always zero in on me for some reason. I hate having to confront people, I don't even like that word. I would rather say, try to work things out. LOL. To: " asthma " <asthma > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:24 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  Well, the human resources lady finally called me back and we had a very nice conversation. She listened to everything I had to say and gave me good advice for dealing with the employee who started all this ruckus to begin with. She agreed that it was perfectly okay for me to politely request that people working with me use the cleaners by pouring them into a rag or using them out of a bucket instead of spraying them with the spray bottle. While I was at the doctor's office picking up my documentation to prove my diagnosis to the guy who accused me of lying, I also made an appointment with the doctor. Recently when someone forgot and sprayed the chemicals and I had an attack, an EMT happened to come to the store and offered to let me use his Advair inhaler. Since I knew he was an EMT, I accepted his offer. It worked quickly and very well. So, I am going to tell that to my doctor and ask him for a prescription for it. I'm not going to use it everyday, though, just when I have a problem. The EMT said it can be used for emergencies but not more than once (or twice?) a day and that it is usually taken once a day to prevent problems. But since the only times I have problems with my asthma are when I have a cold or somebody is too much of a jerk not to use a spray bottle, I don't want to take it all the time. As far as my being shy goes, I also have overcome that in a lot of ways due to working with the public. But when it comes to having a confrontation with someone...ooh, I hate that. I don't want to argue! I don't want to rock the boat. But I do need to stand up for myself and not allow others to walk on me, which I did allow for most of my life. An assertiveness class I took on line has helped me learn the skills to do that, so I am much better at it now. Still hate doing it though. Sheri To: asthma Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:03 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer   I can see you are not Sheri and it was uncalled for IMO to be rude to you. Again in my opinion I think as long as you can wet a cloth and clean the item it would be reasonable accommodations!!  I always was a shy person too, but being administrator of an assisted living got it out of me to some extent. I was always much better at standing up for others than myself however!!   Re: Dealing with my employer Thank you, . I am not an obnoxious person. I am actually a very shy person who has trouble being assertive. That's why I never asked for the district manager to intervene in the first place. Somebody else reported to the first DM that I was having problems. I do not want to be on disability or to get special services or special employment or unemployment. I just want to go to work and do the job I have been doing for 13 years. I have never caused any problems on my job and I am not trying to cause a problem now. I am trying to learn whether using an alternative cleaning method is within the guidelines of the " reasonable accommodations " and I truly cannot see how it can be unreasonable to not use a spray bottle. Sheri  -- Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Agreed.To: asthma Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:47 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Actually I don't think they want you to act like them at all. It is their power. It is their way to get what they want and to make themselves feel better by making others feel small. They do this generally because they are so insecure they can't afford to be vulnerable. Standing up for yourself is the best you can do and hope they are the kind that respects those who can't be intimidated. Exactly, people always say I an naieve, ( know I didn't spell that right, it is too early in the morning yet) not so, I just refuse to act like they do, I may not get it right that minute, but, give me an hour or so, and I will definatly( ( didn't spell that right either, drinking my morning latte now) get it. I guess I just never expect people to be as nasty, and deceitful as they are. I always try to look for the good in people, and these bullies think if you aren't nasty like them that you are stupid. Far from it. From: Sheri Luckett To: "asthma " <asthma > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:23 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer One thing I have learned is that people who are abusive are experts at figuring out who they can be abusive to. That's why we get targeted over and over again. That's also why we have to learn how to not be that person that they can pick on. Sheri To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:58 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Oh, that sounds good. I know how to speak up for myself too, learned the hard way, but, I still think before doing it, there are so many unusual tempered people out there today, and seems like they always zero in on me for some reason. I hate having to confront people, I don't even like that word. I would rather say, try to work things out. LOL. To: "asthma " <asthma > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:24 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Well, the human resources lady finally called me back and we had a very nice conversation. She listened to everything I had to say and gave me good advice for dealing with the employee who started all this ruckus to begin with. She agreed that it was perfectly okay for me to politely request that people working with me use the cleaners by pouring them into a rag or using them out of a bucket instead of spraying them with the spray bottle. While I was at the doctor's office picking up my documentation to prove my diagnosis to the guy who accused me of lying, I also made an appointment with the doctor. Recently when someone forgot and sprayed the chemicals and I had an attack, an EMT happened to come to the store and offered to let me use his Advair inhaler. Since I knew he was an EMT, I accepted his offer. It worked quickly and very well. So, I am going to tell that to my doctor and ask him for a prescription for it. I'm not going to use it everyday, though, just when I have a problem. The EMT said it can be used for emergencies but not more than once (or twice?) a day and that it is usually taken once a day to prevent problems. But since the only times I have problems with my asthma are when I have a cold or somebody is too much of a jerk not to use a spray bottle, I don't want to take it all the time. As far as my being shy goes, I also have overcome that in a lot of ways due to working with the public. But when it comes to having a confrontation with someone...ooh, I hate that. I don't want to argue! I don't want to rock the boat. But I do need to stand up for myself and not allow others to walk on me, which I did allow for most of my life. An assertiveness class I took on line has helped me learn the skills to do that, so I am much better at it now. Still hate doing it though. Sheri To: asthma Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:03 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  I can see you are not Sheri and it was uncalled for IMO to be rude to you. Again in my opinion I think as long as you can wet a cloth and clean the item it would be reasonable accommodations!! I always was a shy person too, but being administrator of an assisted living got it out of me to some extent. I was always much better at standing up for others than myself however!! Re: Dealing with my employer Thank you, . I am not an obnoxious person. I am actually a very shy person who has trouble being assertive. That's why I never asked for the district manager to intervene in the first place. Somebody else reported to the first DM that I was having problems. I do not want to be on disability or to get special services or special employment or unemployment. I just want to go to work and do the job I have been doing for 13 years. I have never caused any problems on my job and I am not trying to cause a problem now. I am trying to learn whether using an alternative cleaning method is within the guidelines of the "reasonable accommodations" and I truly cannot see how it can be unreasonable to not use a spray bottle. Sheri -- Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 You should look for the good in people. I do that too. I try to keep realistic about the fact that there are nasty people in the world. But I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt until they prove themselves not to deserve it. That's true about people who are bullies and also about people who lie, cheat, etc. If you don't do what they do, then they think you are stupid. In the end, though, they wind up in a worse place as the get the results of their deeds.From: "willothewispl@..." To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 AMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Exactly, people always say I an naieve, ( know I didn't spell that right, it is too early in the morning yet) not so, I just refuse to act like they do, I may not get it right that minute, but, give me an hour or so, and I will definatly( ( didn't spell that right either, drinking my morning latte now) get it. I guess I just never expect people to be as nasty, and deceitful as they are. I always try to look for the good in people, and these bullies think if you aren't nasty like them that you are stupid. Far from it.From: Sheri Luckett To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:23 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer One thing I have learned is that people who are abusive are experts at figuring out who they can be abusive to. That's why we get targeted over and over again. That's also why we have to learn how to not be that person that they can pick on.SheriTo: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:58 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Oh, that sounds good. I know how to speak up for myself too, learned the hard way, but, I still think before doing it, there are so many unusual tempered people out there today, and seems like they always zero in on me for some reason. I hate having to confront people, I don't even like that word. I would rather say, try to work things out. LOL.To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:24 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Well, the human resources lady finally called me back and we had a very nice conversation. She listened to everything I had to say and gave me good advice for dealing with the employee who started all this ruckus to begin with. She agreed that it was perfectly okay for me to politely request that people working with me use the cleaners by pouring them into a rag or using them out of a bucket instead of spraying them with the spray bottle. While I was at the doctor's office picking up my documentation to prove my diagnosis to the guy who accused me of lying, I also made an appointment with the doctor. Recently when someone forgot and sprayed the chemicals and I had an attack, an EMT happened to come to the store and offered to let me use his Advair inhaler. Since I knew he was an EMT, I accepted his offer. It worked quickly and very well. So, I am going to tell that to my doctor and ask him for a prescription for it. I'm not going to use it everyday, though, just when I have a problem. The EMT said it can be used for emergencies but not more than once (or twice?) a day and that it is usually taken once a day to prevent problems. But since the only times I have problems with my asthma are when I have a cold or somebody is too much of a jerk not to use a spray bottle, I don't want to take it all the time. As far as my being shy goes, I also have overcome that in a lot of ways due to working with the public. But when it comes to having a confrontation with someone...ooh, I hate that. I don't want to argue! I don't want to rock the boat. But I do need to stand up for myself and not allow others to walk on me, which I did allow for most of my life. An assertiveness class I took on line has helped me learn the skills to do that, so I am much better at it now. Still hate doing it though.SheriTo: asthma Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:03 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  I can see you are not Sheri and it was uncalled for IMO to be rude to you. Again in my opinion I think as long as you can wet a cloth and clean the item it would be reasonable accommodations!! I always was a shy person too, but being administrator of an assisted living got it out of me to some extent. I was always much better at standing up for others than myself however!! Re: Dealing with my employer Thank you, . I am not an obnoxious person. I am actually a very shy person who has trouble being assertive. That's why I never asked for the district manager to intervene in the first place. Somebody else reported to the first DM that I was having problems. I do not want to be on disability or to get special services or special employment or unemployment. I just want to go to work and do the job I have been doing for 13 years. I have never caused any problems on my job and I am not trying to cause a problem now. I am trying to learn whether using an alternative cleaning method is within the guidelines of the "reasonable accommodations" and I truly cannot see how it can be unreasonable to not use a spray bottle. Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 I always assume most people are basically decent. Unless I know otherwise. I know that these people will pay in the end, whenever that is, and I probably won't be around to see it, but, I still go through such depression. My son tells me why do I feel that it is me, I don't really, but, these people always make you feel that way. I know that I am not perfect, but, I also know that I am a good decent person, it just drags you down sometimes. And right now it is very hard to get back up. But, I do everyday, I don't know how, but, I am doing it. LOL.To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:49 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer You should look for the good in people. I do that too. I try to keep realistic about the fact that there are nasty people in the world. But I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt until they prove themselves not to deserve it. That's true about people who are bullies and also about people who lie, cheat, etc. If you don't do what they do, then they think you are stupid. In the end, though, they wind up in a worse place as the get the results of their deeds.From: "willothewispl@..." To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 AMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Exactly, people always say I an naieve, ( know I didn't spell that right, it is too early in the morning yet) not so, I just refuse to act like they do, I may not get it right that minute, but, give me an hour or so, and I will definatly( ( didn't spell that right either, drinking my morning latte now) get it. I guess I just never expect people to be as nasty, and deceitful as they are. I always try to look for the good in people, and these bullies think if you aren't nasty like them that you are stupid. Far from it.From: Sheri Luckett To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:23 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer One thing I have learned is that people who are abusive are experts at figuring out who they can be abusive to. That's why we get targeted over and over again. That's also why we have to learn how to not be that person that they can pick on.SheriTo: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:58 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Oh, that sounds good. I know how to speak up for myself too, learned the hard way, but, I still think before doing it, there are so many unusual tempered people out there today, and seems like they always zero in on me for some reason. I hate having to confront people, I don't even like that word. I would rather say, try to work things out. LOL.To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:24 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Well, the human resources lady finally called me back and we had a very nice conversation. She listened to everything I had to say and gave me good advice for dealing with the employee who started all this ruckus to begin with. She agreed that it was perfectly okay for me to politely request that people working with me use the cleaners by pouring them into a rag or using them out of a bucket instead of spraying them with the spray bottle. While I was at the doctor's office picking up my documentation to prove my diagnosis to the guy who accused me of lying, I also made an appointment with the doctor. Recently when someone forgot and sprayed the chemicals and I had an attack, an EMT happened to come to the store and offered to let me use his Advair inhaler. Since I knew he was an EMT, I accepted his offer. It worked quickly and very well. So, I am going to tell that to my doctor and ask him for a prescription for it. I'm not going to use it everyday, though, just when I have a problem. The EMT said it can be used for emergencies but not more than once (or twice?) a day and that it is usually taken once a day to prevent problems. But since the only times I have problems with my asthma are when I have a cold or somebody is too much of a jerk not to use a spray bottle, I don't want to take it all the time. As far as my being shy goes, I also have overcome that in a lot of ways due to working with the public. But when it comes to having a confrontation with someone...ooh, I hate that. I don't want to argue! I don't want to rock the boat. But I do need to stand up for myself and not allow others to walk on me, which I did allow for most of my life. An assertiveness class I took on line has helped me learn the skills to do that, so I am much better at it now. Still hate doing it though.SheriTo: asthma Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:03 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  I can see you are not Sheri and it was uncalled for IMO to be rude to you. Again in my opinion I think as long as you can wet a cloth and clean the item it would be reasonable accommodations!! I always was a shy person too, but being administrator of an assisted living got it out of me to some extent. I was always much better at standing up for others than myself however!! Re: Dealing with my employer Thank you, . I am not an obnoxious person. I am actually a very shy person who has trouble being assertive. That's why I never asked for the district manager to intervene in the first place. Somebody else reported to the first DM that I was having problems. I do not want to be on disability or to get special services or special employment or unemployment. I just want to go to work and do the job I have been doing for 13 years. I have never caused any problems on my job and I am not trying to cause a problem now. I am trying to learn whether using an alternative cleaning method is within the guidelines of the "reasonable accommodations" and I truly cannot see how it can be unreasonable to not use a spray bottle. Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 At the end of the day there is only one head on that pillow accountable for your behaviors. You can't control anyone else, but you can feel good about how you responded and that you brought your best self to that situation. If it didn't go quite as you had hoped, there is always tomorrow. If you are busy feeling bad, you can't give the good energy to the people who are waiting to receive it. And then you too will feel good.  You should look for the good in people. I do that too. I try to keep realistic about the fact that there are nasty people in the world. But I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt until they prove themselves not to deserve it. That's true about people who are bullies and also about people who lie, cheat, etc. If you don't do what they do, then they think you are stupid. In the end, though, they wind up in a worse place as the get the results of their deeds. From: " willothewispl@... " To: " asthma " <asthma > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 AMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  Exactly, people always say I an naieve, ( know I didn't spell that right, it is too early in the morning yet) not so, I just refuse to act like they do, I may not get it right that minute, but, give me an hour or so, and I will definatly( ( didn't spell that right either, drinking my morning latte now) get it. I guess I just never expect people to be as nasty, and deceitful as they are. I always try to look for the good in people, and these bullies think if you aren't nasty like them that you are stupid. Far from it. From: Sheri Luckett To: " asthma " <asthma > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:23 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  One thing I have learned is that people who are abusive are experts at figuring out who they can be abusive to. That's why we get targeted over and over again. That's also why we have to learn how to not be that person that they can pick on. Sheri To: " asthma " <asthma >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:58 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  Oh, that sounds good. I know how to speak up for myself too, learned the hard way, but, I still think before doing it, there are so many unusual tempered people out there today, and seems like they always zero in on me for some reason. I hate having to confront people, I don't even like that word. I would rather say, try to work things out. LOL. To: " asthma " <asthma > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:24 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  Well, the human resources lady finally called me back and we had a very nice conversation. She listened to everything I had to say and gave me good advice for dealing with the employee who started all this ruckus to begin with. She agreed that it was perfectly okay for me to politely request that people working with me use the cleaners by pouring them into a rag or using them out of a bucket instead of spraying them with the spray bottle. While I was at the doctor's office picking up my documentation to prove my diagnosis to the guy who accused me of lying, I also made an appointment with the doctor. Recently when someone forgot and sprayed the chemicals and I had an attack, an EMT happened to come to the store and offered to let me use his Advair inhaler. Since I knew he was an EMT, I accepted his offer. It worked quickly and very well. So, I am going to tell that to my doctor and ask him for a prescription for it. I'm not going to use it everyday, though, just when I have a problem. The EMT said it can be used for emergencies but not more than once (or twice?) a day and that it is usually taken once a day to prevent problems. But since the only times I have problems with my asthma are when I have a cold or somebody is too much of a jerk not to use a spray bottle, I don't want to take it all the time. As far as my being shy goes, I also have overcome that in a lot of ways due to working with the public. But when it comes to having a confrontation with someone...ooh, I hate that. I don't want to argue! I don't want to rock the boat. But I do need to stand up for myself and not allow others to walk on me, which I did allow for most of my life. An assertiveness class I took on line has helped me learn the skills to do that, so I am much better at it now. Still hate doing it though. Sheri To: asthma Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:03 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer   I can see you are not Sheri and it was uncalled for IMO to be rude to you. Again in my opinion I think as long as you can wet a cloth and clean the item it would be reasonable accommodations!!  I always was a shy person too, but being administrator of an assisted living got it out of me to some extent. I was always much better at standing up for others than myself however!!   Re: Dealing with my employer Thank you, . I am not an obnoxious person. I am actually a very shy person who has trouble being assertive. That's why I never asked for the district manager to intervene in the first place. Somebody else reported to the first DM that I was having problems. I do not want to be on disability or to get special services or special employment or unemployment. I just want to go to work and do the job I have been doing for 13 years. I have never caused any problems on my job and I am not trying to cause a problem now. I am trying to learn whether using an alternative cleaning method is within the guidelines of the " reasonable accommodations " and I truly cannot see how it can be unreasonable to not use a spray bottle. Sheri  -- Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 Early on I was working with this one disability guy, and he told me to just stay in my apt, and away from as many people as I could, and I was already doing that for a long time. Exactly, all I can control are my own actions. I do not argue with anyone, ever, I will try to talk to them nicely, but, that doesn't seem to work in here, so I am trying to move, but, having a really hard time finding an apt. I think I will move, and have to go into some sort of therapy, I am so traumatized, so still looking for apts, on here.From: Wolf To: asthma Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:56 AMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer At the end of the day there is only one head on that pillow accountable for your behaviors. You can't control anyone else, but you can feel good about how you responded and that you brought your best self to that situation. If it didn't go quite as you had hoped, there is always tomorrow. If you are busy feeling bad, you can't give the good energy to the people who are waiting to receive it. And then you too will feel good. You should look for the good in people. I do that too. I try to keep realistic about the fact that there are nasty people in the world. But I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt until they prove themselves not to deserve it. That's true about people who are bullies and also about people who lie, cheat, etc. If you don't do what they do, then they think you are stupid. In the end, though, they wind up in a worse place as the get the results of their deeds. From: "willothewispl@..." To: "asthma " <asthma > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 AMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Exactly, people always say I an naieve, ( know I didn't spell that right, it is too early in the morning yet) not so, I just refuse to act like they do, I may not get it right that minute, but, give me an hour or so, and I will definatly( ( didn't spell that right either, drinking my morning latte now) get it. I guess I just never expect people to be as nasty, and deceitful as they are. I always try to look for the good in people, and these bullies think if you aren't nasty like them that you are stupid. Far from it. From: Sheri Luckett To: "asthma " <asthma > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:23 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer One thing I have learned is that people who are abusive are experts at figuring out who they can be abusive to. That's why we get targeted over and over again. That's also why we have to learn how to not be that person that they can pick on. Sheri To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:58 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Oh, that sounds good. I know how to speak up for myself too, learned the hard way, but, I still think before doing it, there are so many unusual tempered people out there today, and seems like they always zero in on me for some reason. I hate having to confront people, I don't even like that word. I would rather say, try to work things out. LOL. To: "asthma " <asthma > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:24 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Well, the human resources lady finally called me back and we had a very nice conversation. She listened to everything I had to say and gave me good advice for dealing with the employee who started all this ruckus to begin with. She agreed that it was perfectly okay for me to politely request that people working with me use the cleaners by pouring them into a rag or using them out of a bucket instead of spraying them with the spray bottle. While I was at the doctor's office picking up my documentation to prove my diagnosis to the guy who accused me of lying, I also made an appointment with the doctor. Recently when someone forgot and sprayed the chemicals and I had an attack, an EMT happened to come to the store and offered to let me use his Advair inhaler. Since I knew he was an EMT, I accepted his offer. It worked quickly and very well. So, I am going to tell that to my doctor and ask him for a prescription for it. I'm not going to use it everyday, though, just when I have a problem. The EMT said it can be used for emergencies but not more than once (or twice?) a day and that it is usually taken once a day to prevent problems. But since the only times I have problems with my asthma are when I have a cold or somebody is too much of a jerk not to use a spray bottle, I don't want to take it all the time. As far as my being shy goes, I also have overcome that in a lot of ways due to working with the public. But when it comes to having a confrontation with someone...ooh, I hate that. I don't want to argue! I don't want to rock the boat. But I do need to stand up for myself and not allow others to walk on me, which I did allow for most of my life. An assertiveness class I took on line has helped me learn the skills to do that, so I am much better at it now. Still hate doing it though. Sheri To: asthma Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:03 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  I can see you are not Sheri and it was uncalled for IMO to be rude to you. Again in my opinion I think as long as you can wet a cloth and clean the item it would be reasonable accommodations!! I always was a shy person too, but being administrator of an assisted living got it out of me to some extent. I was always much better at standing up for others than myself however!! Re: Dealing with my employer Thank you, . I am not an obnoxious person. I am actually a very shy person who has trouble being assertive. That's why I never asked for the district manager to intervene in the first place. Somebody else reported to the first DM that I was having problems. I do not want to be on disability or to get special services or special employment or unemployment. I just want to go to work and do the job I have been doing for 13 years. I have never caused any problems on my job and I am not trying to cause a problem now. I am trying to learn whether using an alternative cleaning method is within the guidelines of the "reasonable accommodations" and I truly cannot see how it can be unreasonable to not use a spray bottle. Sheri -- Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 Prayers still with you and if you feel you need therapy it can be very helpful. Listen to your body. It generally tells you what it needs.  Early on I was working with this one disability guy, and he told me to just stay in my apt, and away from as many people as I could, and I was already doing that for a long time. Exactly, all I can control are my own actions. I do not argue with anyone, ever, I will try to talk to them nicely, but, that doesn't seem to work in here, so I am trying to move, but, having a really hard time finding an apt. I think I will move, and have to go into some sort of therapy, I am so traumatized, so still looking for apts, on here. From: Wolf To: asthma Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:56 AMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  At the end of the day there is only one head on that pillow accountable for your behaviors. You can't control anyone else, but you can feel good about how you responded and that you brought your best self to that situation. If it didn't go quite as you had hoped, there is always tomorrow. If you are busy feeling bad, you can't give the good energy to the people who are waiting to receive it. And then you too will feel good.  You should look for the good in people. I do that too. I try to keep realistic about the fact that there are nasty people in the world. But I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt until they prove themselves not to deserve it. That's true about people who are bullies and also about people who lie, cheat, etc. If you don't do what they do, then they think you are stupid. In the end, though, they wind up in a worse place as the get the results of their deeds. From: " willothewispl@... " To: " asthma " <asthma > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 AMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  Exactly, people always say I an naieve, ( know I didn't spell that right, it is too early in the morning yet) not so, I just refuse to act like they do, I may not get it right that minute, but, give me an hour or so, and I will definatly( ( didn't spell that right either, drinking my morning latte now) get it. I guess I just never expect people to be as nasty, and deceitful as they are. I always try to look for the good in people, and these bullies think if you aren't nasty like them that you are stupid. Far from it. From: Sheri Luckett To: " asthma " <asthma > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:23 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  One thing I have learned is that people who are abusive are experts at figuring out who they can be abusive to. That's why we get targeted over and over again. That's also why we have to learn how to not be that person that they can pick on. Sheri To: " asthma " <asthma >Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:58 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  Oh, that sounds good. I know how to speak up for myself too, learned the hard way, but, I still think before doing it, there are so many unusual tempered people out there today, and seems like they always zero in on me for some reason. I hate having to confront people, I don't even like that word. I would rather say, try to work things out. LOL. To: " asthma " <asthma > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:24 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  Well, the human resources lady finally called me back and we had a very nice conversation. She listened to everything I had to say and gave me good advice for dealing with the employee who started all this ruckus to begin with. She agreed that it was perfectly okay for me to politely request that people working with me use the cleaners by pouring them into a rag or using them out of a bucket instead of spraying them with the spray bottle. While I was at the doctor's office picking up my documentation to prove my diagnosis to the guy who accused me of lying, I also made an appointment with the doctor. Recently when someone forgot and sprayed the chemicals and I had an attack, an EMT happened to come to the store and offered to let me use his Advair inhaler. Since I knew he was an EMT, I accepted his offer. It worked quickly and very well. So, I am going to tell that to my doctor and ask him for a prescription for it. I'm not going to use it everyday, though, just when I have a problem. The EMT said it can be used for emergencies but not more than once (or twice?) a day and that it is usually taken once a day to prevent problems. But since the only times I have problems with my asthma are when I have a cold or somebody is too much of a jerk not to use a spray bottle, I don't want to take it all the time. As far as my being shy goes, I also have overcome that in a lot of ways due to working with the public. But when it comes to having a confrontation with someone...ooh, I hate that. I don't want to argue! I don't want to rock the boat. But I do need to stand up for myself and not allow others to walk on me, which I did allow for most of my life. An assertiveness class I took on line has helped me learn the skills to do that, so I am much better at it now. Still hate doing it though. Sheri To: asthma Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:03 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer   I can see you are not Sheri and it was uncalled for IMO to be rude to you. Again in my opinion I think as long as you can wet a cloth and clean the item it would be reasonable accommodations!!  I always was a shy person too, but being administrator of an assisted living got it out of me to some extent. I was always much better at standing up for others than myself however!!   Re: Dealing with my employer Thank you, . I am not an obnoxious person. I am actually a very shy person who has trouble being assertive. That's why I never asked for the district manager to intervene in the first place. Somebody else reported to the first DM that I was having problems. I do not want to be on disability or to get special services or special employment or unemployment. I just want to go to work and do the job I have been doing for 13 years. I have never caused any problems on my job and I am not trying to cause a problem now. I am trying to learn whether using an alternative cleaning method is within the guidelines of the " reasonable accommodations " and I truly cannot see how it can be unreasonable to not use a spray bottle. Sheri  -- Take care, -- Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Amen to that and Advair is a long acting, you need a short acting. Advair is a combination of two drugs, a steroid and an long acting beta antagonist. Re: Dealing with my employer You should have a reliever inhaler with you at all times if you are asthmatic, no matter what triggers it. I very rarely need mine, but I always have it in my bag when I go out, just in case. Jenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 I plan to tell my doctor that the Advair worked quickly and well, but of course, he should prescribe whatever he thinks will work best. The Advair seemed to work better than what they gave me when I had the flu, which was Albuterol. Whatever he gives me, I will keep it with me. Thanks.To: asthma Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:05 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer Amen to that and Advair is a long acting, you need a short acting. Advair is a combination of two drugs, a steroid and an long acting beta antagonist. Re: Dealing with my employer You should have a reliever inhaler with you at all times if you are asthmatic, no matter what triggers it. I very rarely need mine, but I always have it in my bag when I go out, just in case. Jenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Sheri,Advair is a controller med. It is to prevent flares. You should us your controller meds every day even when you don't have symptoms. That is the whole point. For most people, when you get sick or are directly exposed to something that aggravates your lungs the asthma can flare even with a controller on board. For breakthrough symptoms, you use a rescue med which is the albuterol. Albuterol is very fast acting and stays in your system on a short while.MadelineTo: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:20 AMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer I plan to tell my doctor that the Advair worked quickly and well, but of course, he should prescribe whatever he thinks will work best. The Advair seemed to work better than what they gave me when I had the flu, which was Albuterol. Whatever he gives me, I will keep it with me. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011  I have heard that Ventrolin works better than the Proair but I have not gotten a prescription yet. The old albuterol worked good for me. The new one is pretty useless. I have a nebulizer though I can use if I get too gobbed up. Re: Dealing with my employer I plan to tell my doctor that the Advair worked quickly and well, but of course, he should prescribe whatever he thinks will work best. The Advair seemed to work better than what they gave me when I had the flu, which was Albuterol. Whatever he gives me, I will keep it with me. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 THANKS!To: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:47 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer YEAH!!!! Way to go Sheri! That is terrific.MadelineTo: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:58 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer I went to the doctor today and got my doctor's statement for my employer. He gave me ProAir to use as a rescue inhaler should I need it and said if I started using it as much as twice a week to come back and then he would put me on Advair. He also praised my 20 pound weight loss and said that my blood pressure has returned to normal, which was my motivation for losing the weight. So, I'm happy!SheriTo: "asthma " <asthma >Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 7:03 AMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer I tried the Ventolin HFA and it didn't work well for me but the ProAir does. What works well for one of us may not work well for another so we have to keep trying till we find what works.To: asthma Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:55 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with my employer  I have heard that Ventrolin works better than the Proair but I have not gotten a prescription yet. The old albuterol worked good for me. The new one is pretty useless. I have a nebulizer though I can use if I get too gobbed up. Re: Dealing with my employer I plan to tell my doctor that the Advair worked quickly and well, but of course, he should prescribe whatever he thinks will work best. The Advair seemed to work better than what they gave me when I had the flu, which was Albuterol. Whatever he gives me, I will keep it with me. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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