Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Hi Anne, > I have never had difficulty dealing with painful menses. > What have you used so far? Is there clotting? Have you a problem > with 'cold' in that area? > > I would fully explore using indiginious herbs first before trying herbs from > other continents. Agreed on both counts. About Canadian fleabane though: it's called Canadian, but it's naturalized over wide areas of Europe. Here's where it grows: http://linnaeus.nrm.se/flora/di/astera/conyz/conycanv.jpg You'll likely find it where you're at, if you start to look for it. (It has a peppery taste, if I remember correctly). H. -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.henriettesherbal.com Uusi kirja: http://www.henriettesherbal.com/fi/kayt-laak.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 I don't usually have problems with painful menses either! This is the only lady! She is in her mid thirties. Last 2 babies were Caesars - no endometriosis was detected. She does not have medical insurance, so we cannot rule out fibroids. She has a 2 weekly cycle and bleeds for a week, with cramping that responds to Ibuprofen or cramp bark. Her bowels become " inflamed " (her words) with the onset of bleeding. After a day of pain, the pain changes and is unresponsive to anything we use. She has one day of extremely heavy bleeding (she uses a mentstrual cup and says it measures 3x normal flow) and then light for 6 days. Her sx have improved, but are obviously far from right. Her diet was atrocious: she is now gluten free and knows that is helping, (she did have IBS) generally low in inflammatory foods, lots fruit and veg, adequate protein. She is of slight build, not very curvy. Over several years we have used Achillea, Gelsimium, Alchemilla, Paeonia, Vitex, Potentilla, Geranium, plus some anti inflammatory herbs for high prostaglandin levels. Her progesterone levels tend o be low although she has carried 3 babies to term quite well. I have changed her mix this week to include Cimicifuga, sinensis, Berberis and a little Caulophyllum. I have given her a pain mix with Piscidia, Pulsatilla and Vib op, plus a tea of motherwort, licorice, fennel, chamomile, ginger and yarrow. I am hoping I won't actually need the fleabane - the question was proactive! Thanks for your input everyone - I appreciate it J Fidler, MCPP, (RH) AHG Herbalist ________________________________ To: ukherbal group <ukherbal-list > Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 3:33:34 AM Subject: Canadian fleabane Hi , I have never had difficulty dealing with painful menses. What have you used so far? Is there clotting? Have you a problem with 'cold' in that area? I would fully explore using indiginious herbs first before trying herbs from other continents. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Hi , I think that the sinensis might aggravate the heavy bleeding? Marilena. To: ukherbal-list From: riverdellherbs@... Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 08:56:34 -0800 Subject: Re: Canadian fleabane I don't usually have problems with painful menses either! This is the only lady! She is in her mid thirties. Last 2 babies were Caesars - no endometriosis was detected. She does not have medical insurance, so we cannot rule out fibroids. She has a 2 weekly cycle and bleeds for a week, with cramping that responds to Ibuprofen or cramp bark. Her bowels become " inflamed " (her words) with the onset of bleeding. After a day of pain, the pain changes and is unresponsive to anything we use. She has one day of extremely heavy bleeding (she uses a mentstrual cup and says it measures 3x normal flow) and then light for 6 days. Her sx have improved, but are obviously far from right. Her diet was atrocious: she is now gluten free and knows that is helping, (she did have IBS) generally low in inflammatory foods, lots fruit and veg, adequate protein. She is of slight build, not very curvy. Over several years we have used Achillea, Gelsimium, Alchemilla, Paeonia, Vitex, Potentilla, Geranium, plus some anti inflammatory herbs for high prostaglandin levels. Her progesterone levels tend o be low although she has carried 3 babies to term quite well. I have changed her mix this week to include Cimicifuga, sinensis, Berberis and a little Caulophyllum. I have given her a pain mix with Piscidia, Pulsatilla and Vib op, plus a tea of motherwort, licorice, fennel, chamomile, ginger and yarrow. I am hoping I won't actually need the fleabane - the question was proactive! Thanks for your input everyone - I appreciate it J Fidler, MCPP, (RH) AHG Herbalist ________________________________ To: ukherbal group <ukherbal-list > Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 3:33:34 AM Subject: Canadian fleabane Hi , I have never had difficulty dealing with painful menses. What have you used so far? Is there clotting? Have you a problem with 'cold' in that area? I would fully explore using indiginious herbs first before trying herbs from other continents. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 > Hi , Re: menstrual cramps: have you tried homeopathic Mag Phos 6C? I've always found it very helpful. Kind regards, Kerry > > -- Kerry Hackett, MNIMH, RH Medical Herbalist www.kerryhackett.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 And I always use one of the Viburnums, usually opulus in the main mix. Having said that, I had a patient with such severe menstrual pain that nothing touched it including Magnesium supplements. She moved away, I don't know if her then local herbalist had any more success. Where did the fleabane information come from? Sally >> Hi , > > Re: menstrual cramps: have you tried homeopathic Mag Phos 6C? I've > always found it very helpful. > > Kind regards, > Kerry >> >> > -- > Kerry Hackett, MNIMH, RH > Medical Herbalist > www.kerryhackett.ca > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 The fleabane info came from Aviva Romm's new textbook on Women's Health J Fidler, MCPP, (RH) AHG Herbalist ________________________________ To: ukherbal-list Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 3:20:23 PM Subject: Re: Canadian fleabane And I always use one of the Viburnums, usually opulus in the main mix. Having said that, I had a patient with such severe menstrual pain that nothing touched it including Magnesium supplements. She moved away, I don't know if her then local herbalist had any more success. Where did the fleabane information come from? Sally >> Hi , > > Re: menstrual cramps: have you tried homeopathic Mag Phos 6C? I've > always found it very helpful. > > Kind regards, > Kerry >> >> > -- > Kerry Hackett, MNIMH, RH > Medical Herbalist > www.kerryhackett.ca > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Thanks, not heard of her. > The fleabane info came from Aviva Romm's new textbook on Women's > Health > J Fidler, MCPP, (RH) AHG > Herbalist > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: ukherbal-list > Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 3:20:23 PM > Subject: Re: Canadian fleabane > > > And I always use one of the Viburnums, usually opulus in the main mix. > > Having said that, I had a patient with such severe menstrual pain that > nothing touched it including Magnesium supplements. She moved away, > I don't know if her then local herbalist had any more success. > Where did the fleabane information come from? > > Sally > > > >>> Hi , >> >> Re: menstrual cramps: have you tried homeopathic Mag Phos 6C? I've >> always found it very helpful. >> >> Kind regards, >> Kerry >>> >>> >> -- >> Kerry Hackett, MNIMH, RH >> Medical Herbalist >> www.kerryhackett.ca >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Actually, to be strictly accurate it did reduce, but they usually clear up completely in time Sally > And I always use one of the Viburnums, usually opulus in the main mix. > > Having said that, I had a patient with such severe menstrual pain that > nothing touched it including Magnesium supplements. She moved away, > I don't know if her then local herbalist had any more success. > Where did the fleabane information come from? > > > Sally > > > > >>> Hi , >> >> Re: menstrual cramps: have you tried homeopathic Mag Phos 6C? I've >> always found it very helpful. >> >> Kind regards, >> Kerry >>> >>> >> -- >> Kerry Hackett, MNIMH, RH >> Medical Herbalist >> www.kerryhackett.ca >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 She has been the president of the American Herbalist Guild for a number of years, with a long standing herbal practise specialising in Women's issues and midwifery. She has recently qualified as an MD. J Fidler, MCPP, (RH) AHG Herbalist ________________________________ To: ukherbal-list Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 4:50:57 PM Subject: Re: Canadian fleabane Thanks, not heard of her. > The fleabane info came from Aviva Romm's new textbook on Women's > Health > J Fidler, MCPP, (RH) AHG > Herbalist > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: ukherbal-list > Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 3:20:23 PM > Subject: Re: Canadian fleabane > > > And I always use one of the Viburnums, usually opulus in the main mix. > > Having said that, I had a patient with such severe menstrual pain that > nothing touched it including Magnesium supplements. She moved away, > I don't know if her then local herbalist had any more success. > Where did the fleabane information come from? > > Sally > > > >>> Hi , >> >> Re: menstrual cramps: have you tried homeopathic Mag Phos 6C? I've >> always found it very helpful. >> >> Kind regards, >> Kerry >>> >>> >> -- >> Kerry Hackett, MNIMH, RH >> Medical Herbalist >> www.kerryhackett.ca >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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