Re: Boron/// Body Pains///hair loss

[Guest guest]

I tried taking boron tablets internally about a year ago for my arthritis.

Shortly afterward my hairdresser found a bare patch on my head. I'm 62 years old

and (knock on wood) very thick hair that I'm not anxious to give up. Since boron

was the only different thing I was doing, so I discontinued it. The hair grew

back. A few weeks ago I decided to give it a try again. Another bare patch in

the same place. Yikes! I'm considering trying it transdermally after the bare

patch is gone. Sure would be nice if the boron helped my arthritis. I already

have a total knee replacement from arthritis damage, my back is a mess

(arthritis-spinal stenosis) and I'm not anxious to have to do other surgeries.

Has anyone else experienced hair loss? I also have been eliminating sugar and

white flour from my diet since last September. My arthritis has improved some,

but I was sure hoping the boron would help.

 

Janet Duncan

University of Southern Indiana - Go Eagles!

If at first you don't succeed, try again. If you still don't succeed. Try again

and again and again...Tippy and Jericho

>________________________________

>

>To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO "

<DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO >

>Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:16 PM

>Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains

>

>I don't know, but I continue into my 4th week on 12mg Boron capsules

daily....am I cured, H*LL no, but there is hope for relief....I deal with nasty

Spinal Stenosis....so that is a bear.....

>________________________________

>

>To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

>Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:06 AM

>Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains

>

>Do you know if BORIC ACID,  BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster)

>and BORON are interchangable?

>Thnk so much

>

>

>>

>> Rex Newnham as in the link below.

>>

>> Are  your body pains caused by Arthritis ? If so, have you not tried

>> taking Boron internally ? A nutritionist fellow in Australia proved he

>> could reverse Arthritis by dosing up with approx 12mg of Boron daily and in

>> 3 months he cured Arthritis completely. He maintained if we stayed on a

>> maintenance dose after that, 6-12 mg daily as needed, then it would not

>> re-occur,. He was hounded out of Australia of course ! Moved to England and

>> continued his work there.

>

[Guest guest]

Janet, no hair loss here..but some yrs ago I tried the low dose long course of

Doxy for OA issues and got a patch of hair come out....so stopped the abx...

 

HypoT is also a biggie re: hair loss...

 

Boy, that spinal stenosis is a crappy crappy issue and it all got worse after

hip replacement 19 months ago....

 

I also want no more surgeries...

 

Don't know what to say re: hair loss and boron, so far I'm good with it, but

certainly not cured....  

________________________________

To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO "

<DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO >

Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:55 PM

Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains///hair loss

 

I tried taking boron tablets internally about a year ago for my arthritis.

Shortly afterward my hairdresser found a bare patch on my head. I'm 62 years old

and (knock on wood) very thick hair that I'm not anxious to give up. Since boron

was the only different thing I was doing, so I discontinued it. The hair grew

back. A few weeks ago I decided to give it a try again. Another bare patch in

the same place. Yikes! I'm considering trying it transdermally after the bare

patch is gone. Sure would be nice if the boron helped my arthritis. I already

have a total knee replacement from arthritis damage, my back is a mess

(arthritis-spinal stenosis) and I'm not anxious to have to do other surgeries.

Has anyone else experienced hair loss? I also have been eliminating sugar and

white flour from my diet since last September. My arthritis has improved some,

but I was sure hoping the boron would help.

 

Janet Duncan

University of Southern Indiana - Go Eagles!

If at first you don't succeed, try again. If you still don't succeed. Try again

and again and again...Tippy and Jericho

>________________________________

>

>To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO "

<DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO >

>Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:16 PM

>Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains

>

>I don't know, but I continue into my 4th week on 12mg Boron capsules

daily....am I cured, H*LL no, but there is hope for relief....I deal with nasty

Spinal Stenosis....so that is a bear.....

>________________________________

>

>To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

>Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:06 AM

>Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains

>

>Do you know if BORIC ACID,  BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster)

>and BORON are interchangable?

>Thnk so much

>

>

>>

>> Rex Newnham as in the link below.

>>

>> Are  your body pains caused by Arthritis ? If so, have you not tried

>> taking Boron internally ? A nutritionist fellow in Australia proved he

>> could reverse Arthritis by dosing up with approx 12mg of Boron daily and in

>> 3 months he cured Arthritis completely. He maintained if we stayed on a

>> maintenance dose after that, 6-12 mg daily as needed, then it would not

>> re-occur,. He was hounded out of Australia of course ! Moved to England and

>> continued his work there.

>

[Guest guest]

Janet, are you up on your Vit D levels...this is critical and so MANY are

deficient we're finding.   joyce

________________________________

To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO "

<DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO >

Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:20 PM

Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains///hair loss

 

Janet, no hair loss here..but some yrs ago I tried the low dose long course of

Doxy for OA issues and got a patch of hair come out....so stopped the abx...

 

HypoT is also a biggie re: hair loss...

 

Boy, that spinal stenosis is a crappy crappy issue and it all got worse after

hip replacement 19 months ago....

 

I also want no more surgeries...

 

Don't know what to say re: hair loss and boron, so far I'm good with it, but

certainly not cured....  

________________________________

To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO "

<DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO >

Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:55 PM

Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains///hair loss

 

I tried taking boron tablets internally about a year ago for my arthritis.

Shortly afterward my hairdresser found a bare patch on my head. I'm 62 years old

and (knock on wood) very thick hair that I'm not anxious to give up. Since boron

was the only different thing I was doing, so I discontinued it. The hair grew

back. A few weeks ago I decided to give it a try again. Another bare patch in

the same place. Yikes! I'm considering trying it transdermally after the bare

patch is gone. Sure would be nice if the boron helped my arthritis. I already

have a total knee replacement from arthritis damage, my back is a mess

(arthritis-spinal stenosis) and I'm not anxious to have to do other surgeries.

Has anyone else experienced hair loss? I also have been eliminating sugar and

white flour from my diet since last September. My arthritis has improved some,

but I was sure hoping the boron would help.

 

Janet Duncan

University of Southern Indiana - Go Eagles!

If at first you don't succeed, try again. If you still don't succeed. Try again

and again and again...Tippy and Jericho

>________________________________

>

>To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO "

<DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO >

>Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:16 PM

>Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains

>

>I don't know, but I continue into my 4th week on 12mg Boron capsules

daily....am I cured, H*LL no, but there is hope for relief....I deal with nasty

Spinal Stenosis....so that is a bear.....

>________________________________

>

>To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

>Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:06 AM

>Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains

>

>Do you know if BORIC ACID,  BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster)

>and BORON are interchangable?

>Thnk so much

>

>

>>

>> Rex Newnham as in the link below.

>>

>> Are  your body pains caused by Arthritis ? If so, have you not tried

>> taking Boron internally ? A nutritionist fellow in Australia proved he

>> could reverse Arthritis by dosing up with approx 12mg of Boron daily and in

>> 3 months he cured Arthritis completely. He maintained if we stayed on a

>> maintenance dose after that, 6-12 mg daily as needed, then it would not

>> re-occur,. He was hounded out of Australia of course ! Moved to England and

>> continued his work there.

>

[Guest guest]

Janet,

Have you eliminated gluten? Something else to consider….

mara

> I tried taking boron tablets internally about a year ago for my arthritis.

Shortly afterward my hairdresser found a bare patch on my head. I'm 62 years old

and (knock on wood) very thick hair that I'm not anxious to give up. Since boron

was the only different thing I was doing, so I discontinued it. The hair grew

back. A few weeks ago I decided to give it a try again. Another bare patch in

the same place. Yikes! I'm considering trying it transdermally after the bare

patch is gone. Sure would be nice if the boron helped my arthritis. I already

have a total knee replacement from arthritis damage, my back is a mess

(arthritis-spinal stenosis) and I'm not anxious to have to do other surgeries.

>

> Has anyone else experienced hair loss? I also have been eliminating sugar and

white flour from my diet since last September. My arthritis has improved some,

but I was sure hoping the boron would help.

>

> Janet Duncan

> University of Southern Indiana - Go Eagles!

> If at first you don't succeed, try again. If you still don't succeed. Try

again and again and again...Tippy and Jericho

>

> >________________________________

> >

> >To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO "

<DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO >

> >Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:16 PM

> >Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains

> >

> >I don't know, but I continue into my 4th week on 12mg Boron capsules

daily....am I cured, H*LL no, but there is hope for relief....I deal with nasty

Spinal Stenosis....so that is a bear.....

> >________________________________

> >

> >To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

> >Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:06 AM

> >Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains

> >

> >Do you know if BORIC ACID, BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster)

> >and BORON are interchangable?

> >Thnk so much

> >

> >

> >>

> >> Rex Newnham as in the link below.

> >>

> >> Are your body pains caused by Arthritis ? If so, have you not tried

> >> taking Boron internally ? A nutritionist fellow in Australia proved he

> >> could reverse Arthritis by dosing up with approx 12mg of Boron daily and in

> >> 3 months he cured Arthritis completely. He maintained if we stayed on a

> >> maintenance dose after that, 6-12 mg daily as needed, then it would not

> >> re-occur,. He was hounded out of Australia of course ! Moved to England and

> >> continued his work there.

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I do take a D supplement. Think it is D-3. I've been taking it for several

years. None of my recent tests show any " D " deficiency. Sure is strange that

hair loss started when I was taking boron, went away when I stopped, then back

again when I started taking boron again. 

 

Janet Duncan

University of Southern Indiana - Go Eagles!

If at first you don't succeed, try again. If you still don't succeed. Try again

and again and again...Tippy and Jericho

>________________________________

>

>To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO "

<DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO >

>Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:27 PM

>Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains///hair loss

>

>Janet, are you up on your Vit D levels...this is critical and so MANY are

deficient we're finding.   joyce

>

>

>

>________________________________

>

>To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO "

<DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO >

>Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:20 PM

>Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains///hair loss

>

>

> 

>Janet, no hair loss here..but some yrs ago I tried the low dose long course of

Doxy for OA issues and got a patch of hair come out....so stopped the abx...

> 

>HypoT is also a biggie re: hair loss...

> 

>Boy, that spinal stenosis is a crappy crappy issue and it all got worse after

hip replacement 19 months ago....

> 

>I also want no more surgeries...

> 

>Don't know what to say re: hair loss and boron, so far I'm good with it, but

certainly not cured....  

>

>________________________________

>

>To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO "

<DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO >

>Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:55 PM

>Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains///hair loss

>

> 

>I tried taking boron tablets internally about a year ago for my arthritis.

Shortly afterward my hairdresser found a bare patch on my head. I'm 62 years old

and (knock on wood) very thick hair that I'm not anxious to give up. Since boron

was the only different thing I was doing, so I discontinued it. The hair grew

back. A few weeks ago I decided to give it a try again. Another bare patch in

the same place. Yikes! I'm considering trying it transdermally after the bare

patch is gone. Sure would be nice if the boron helped my arthritis. I already

have a total knee replacement from arthritis damage, my back is a mess

(arthritis-spinal stenosis) and I'm not anxious to have to do other surgeries.

>

>Has anyone else experienced hair loss? I also have been eliminating sugar and

white flour from my diet since last September. My arthritis has improved some,

but I was sure hoping the boron would help.

> 

>Janet Duncan

>University of Southern Indiana - Go Eagles!

>If at first you don't succeed, try again. If you still don't succeed. Try again

and again and again...Tippy and Jericho

>

>>________________________________

>>

>>To: " DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO "

<DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO >

>>Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:16 PM

>>Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains

>>

>>I don't know, but I continue into my 4th week on 12mg Boron capsules

daily....am I cured, H*LL no, but there is hope for relief....I deal with nasty

Spinal Stenosis....so that is a bear.....

>>________________________________

>>

>>To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

>>Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:06 AM

>>Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains

>>

>>Do you know if BORIC ACID,  BORAX POWDER (as is sold as a laundry booster)

>>and BORON are interchangable?

>>Thnk so much

>>

>>

>>>

>>> Rex Newnham as in the link below.

>>>

>>> Are  your body pains caused by Arthritis ? If so, have you not tried

>>> taking Boron internally ? A nutritionist fellow in Australia proved he

>>> could reverse Arthritis by dosing up with approx 12mg of Boron daily and in

>>> 3 months he cured Arthritis completely. He maintained if we stayed on a

>>> maintenance dose after that, 6-12 mg daily as needed, then it would not

>>> re-occur,. He was hounded out of Australia of course ! Moved to England and

>>> continued his work there.

>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Here's one speculative thought about that ...

Boron & borax are said to eliminate mold & fungus from the body ~ perhaps your

body is using this particular elimination route for the toxins that boron is

addressing?

I have read that people with bald spots sometimes find a " cure " for their

baldness when they apply anti-fungal type of things like organic apple cider

vinegar (which I believe I've read has a decent amount of boron in it as do

apples)

I would be curios if a topical application of diluted organic ACV or coconut oil

(some type of antibacterial/antifungal type of thing) on your scalp would help

with limiting the hair loss. Or if perhaps the hair loss is temporary while

your body is eliminating whatever boron is addressing.

Another thought that comes to mind is hormone levels. Boron is known to

regulate hormone levels though I wonder if in the initial stages things get more

stirred up before they settle down.

Oh heck, I just did a google search for 'boron bald spot' and there was a result

from Earth Clinic in the hair loss section:

" 01/16/2012: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: " What I know is cortisone may

have delayed some of the hair loss and some fungus infection set in before the

cortisone, that's my guess. Most hormone treatments if done right, not in

excess, actually increase hair growth, such as growth hormones, cortisone,

estrogen (cellular proliferation which also encourages cancer too), and others.

Most of the areas of the scalp are usually fungus, and there are two methods I

employ, if it is severe then I would just kill it, with tea tree, or lavender,

and others, but in case the body's immune system is down, well that's too much

sugar intake, and deficiencies, usually from the niacinamide deficiency, and

lack of hormones. Boron (borax) will increase the hormones across the board and

it also is anti fungal. I will used borax and niacinamide paste to apply, mostly

is like 90% niacinamide B3 and 10% borax, and apply as a wet paste (moisten with

water), it will address both fungus and deficiency issues on the scalp. B3

niacinamide is taken internally also and is known to reduce anxiety and stress

also, not just fungus issue. If anemia is indicated, then the blood stream has

lots of fungus which will usually clear up with a 3% H2O2 one capful in one

liter of water as a drinking water.

As always, the hardest remedy to resolve for me is always the hair loss, the

reason why has a lot to do with many minerals are involved, hormones, and

especially the anemia problem. Now in case of hair loss fungus eats blood cells

and may be defeated with hydrogen peroxide in drinking water.

Ted "

To access that information go to this link:

http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/hair_loss_questions.html

and if you are using Safari you can use the tab " Edit " then " Find " and type

boron in the little box that comes up in the upper right hand side. The screen

will darken and every place that the word boron is used will be highlighted.

>

> Yes, I do take a D supplement. Think it is D-3. I've been taking it for

several years. None of my recent tests show any " D " deficiency. Sure is strange

that hair loss started when I was taking boron, went away when I stopped, then

back again when I started taking boron again. 

>  

> Janet Duncan

> University of Southern Indiana - Go Eagles!

> If at first you don't succeed, try again. If you still don't succeed. Try

again and again and again...Tippy and Jericho

[Guest guest]

Do you not think it is from taking too much Boron? From instructions i have

read in using the laundry borax/boron, one only wets the first segment of the

index finger, dip in the boron powder, shake excess then lick followed by water.

I think the 12mg is a lot. Never tried it, but this is the safest way they say

to take Boron.

>

> Yes, I do take a D supplement. Think it is D-3. I've been taking it for

several years. None of my recent tests show any " D " deficiency. Sure is strange

that hair loss started when I was taking boron, went away when I stopped, then

back again when I started taking boron again. 

>  

> Janet Duncan

> University of Southern Indiana - Go Eagles!

> If at first you don't succeed, try again. If you still don't succeed. Try

again and again and again...Tippy and Jericho

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The 12mg is for 3 months....then one sees  how they are feeling arthritic

wise....

________________________________

To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:49 PM

Subject: Re: Boron/// Body Pains///hair loss

 

Do you not think it is from taking too much Boron? From instructions i have read

in using the laundry borax/boron, one only wets the first segment of the index

finger, dip in the boron powder, shake excess then lick followed by water. I

think the 12mg is a lot. Never tried it, but this is the safest way they say to

take Boron.

>

> Yes, I do take a D supplement. Think it is D-3. I've been taking it for

several years. None of my recent tests show any " D " deficiency. Sure is strange

that hair loss started when I was taking boron, went away when I stopped, then

back again when I started taking boron again. 

>  

> Janet Duncan

> University of Southern Indiana - Go Eagles!

> If at first you don't succeed, try again. If you still don't succeed. Try

again and again and again...Tippy and Jericho

>

>

>