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Here's an article with a first person account of xin by someone

who is on it:

http://www.bostoncure.org:8080/article.pl?sid=05/05/03/1114242 & mode=nested

Note that xin is NOT a drug--they take your T-cells and look for

the " rogue " T-cells that cause the immune system to be overstimulated,

then they kill these cells and reinject them back into you.

It's a vaccine, not a drug.

Seems to work for the folks who are on it--probably 3 years out before

it hits the market.

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Thank you both for your answer, let us hope that something positive will come

out of it...

Zora

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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:32:26 -0700 (PDT)

From: Pugh

Subject: Re: xin

Hi Zora. I read about it. It's still in clinical trial, phase I. It won't be

available to the public until 2007 or 2008 if the trials go well. The

expectations are high, but there isn't enough evidence that it will work yet. I

hope it does, but drugs aren't for me.

Zora wrote:Did anybody hear anything about xin and MS?

Zora

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Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 19:54:15 -0000

From: " scott_627 "

Subject: Re: xin

Here's an article with a first person account of xin by someone

who is on it:

http://www.bostoncure.org:8080/article.pl?sid=05/05/03/1114242 & mode=nested

Note that xin is NOT a drug--they take your T-cells and look for

the " rogue " T-cells that cause the immune system to be overstimulated,

then they kill these cells and reinject them back into you.

It's a vaccine, not a drug.

Seems to work for the folks who are on it--probably 3 years out before

it hits the market.

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About xin

I would like to know more about this vaccine, when will it be available

to other people

It is currently in FDA trial. My guess would be 2007 or 2008.

and what will be the cost? I have no guess about that.

I am in an FDA trial for an MS vaccine. The vaccine appears to have arrested my

disease and has done the same for the other people in the study. I have two

small websites that show a timeline of events. The first one is www.ihavems.com

It starts with the first injection and goes for 18 months. My websites are

little 10-page boilerplate sites, so my timeline continues on a second website

www.timswellness.com from June 2004 to the present. I am a little behind on the

second website. I haven't written anything since the end of February, but I will

get back to it soon. My Dad and I work on it together.

I am actually out doing things again. I just returned from a solo trip to see

some friends in San Francisco. This is amazing, since two years ago, my parents

were taking me from our home in Michigan to Houston in a wheelchair.

xin is an autologous vaccine. That means they take some of my blood, cull

out the T-cells and introduce them to human myelin. Those that react to the

myelin are culled out and replicated. Once there are enough for the vaccine,

about 45 million cells, the T-cells are irradiated so that they are still alive,

but cannot reproduce. That is the vaccine.

The vaccine is injected just under my skin, you can see some pictures at

www.timswellness.com , and the body treats these T-cells as a foreign invader

and makes antibodies to eliminate only these specific T-cells. These antibodies

not only take out the T-cells from the vaccine, but also eliminate all of that

same type of T-cell throughout my body.

The body produces 2 to 3 trillion red blood cells per day. I am not sure how

many T-cells are produced per day, but if 1 or 2 per million are troublemakers,

that means there are hundreds of millions of myelin reactive T-cells floating

around in the blood stream of someone with MS. A flare is when the body produces

too many of these bad T-cells. No one is sure why this happens, but it may be

caused by an upper respiratory infection, or a cold sore, or some other immune

response that triggers the body to produce T-cells that mistake myelin as

something bad.

By eliminating these 1 or 2 per 1 million T-cells does not compromise the immune

system, but it does eliminate all of the T-cells that destroy the myelin. No bad

T-cells means no more attacks. Anyone on xin will need to get a booster

twice a year to keep the antibodies at a level sufficient to continue to

eliminate all of the myelin reactive T-cells as they are produced. This is just

like a flu shot.

I think about 30 to 40% of the damage that was done by the attacks has been

reversed. The body will repair itself, as long as the attacks stop. I am helping

myself by doing a lot of exercising and activities that improve my small motor

skills.

I am doing many things that I was no longer able to do. When I started the

vaccine, my parent's were cutting my food and feeding it to me. I am able to cut

my own food, and today, I peeled some shrimp. Realizing that I can again do

something as insignificant as peel a shrimp really makes me feel good. I used to

wonder why people got so excited to see a disabled family member regain some

little ability, now I understand, and I understand why my family is trilled at

even my smallest improvement.

Best regards, Tim

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Hi Tim

I have no training in medicine, so I would like a explanation

of:

" the T-cells are irradiated so that they are still alive "

(interesting post)

Regards,

Szpak

>About xin

>

> xin is an autologous vaccine. That means they take some of my

blood, cull out the T-cells and introduce them to human myelin.

Those that react to the myelin are culled out and replicated. Once

there are enough for the vaccine, about 45 million cells, the T-

cells are irradiated so that they are still alive, but cannot

reproduce. That is the vaccine.

>

> >

>>

> >> Best regards, Tim

>

>

>

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> Hi Tim

>

> I have no training in medicine, so I would like a explanation

> of:

>

> " the T-cells are irradiated so that they are still alive "

>

> (interesting post)

>

> Regards,

>

> Szpak

>

>

>

>

> >About xin

>

>

> >

> > xin is an autologous vaccine. That means they take some of

my

> blood, cull out the T-cells and introduce them to human myelin.

> Those that react to the myelin are culled out and replicated. Once

> there are enough for the vaccine, about 45 million cells, the T-

> cells are irradiated so that they are still alive, but cannot

> reproduce. That is the vaccine.

> >

> > >

> >>

> > >> Best regards, Tim

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Ask Tim the queastions, he is on the trial..................Zora

Tims email:

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