I'm so angry

October 13, 2009

So are you saying that it was unusual for them to have done this or are you

saying that

people who don't have their beliefs couldn't get the healing?

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

From: Crystal <sweetnwright@...>

Subject: RE: I'm so Angry

hypothyroidism

Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 8:38 PM

I know 2 people who no longer have Hashimoto's because they changed the way

they think. Both are Christians. I believe that our thyroids can " wake up "

: )

CW

-- I'm so Angry

I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low thyroid

can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor has mentioned

this to me. I'm really furious because they have all tried to get me to take

statins, but never once suggested working with me to really raise my thyroid

level. Instead their stupid TSH test has falsely shown my thyroid to be

elevated, even though I kept complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just

took new thyroid tests yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now

maybe I will be able to get to the bottom of this mess.

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

October 13, 2009

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

From: Crystal <sweetnwright@...>

Subject: RE: I'm so Angry

hypothyroidism

Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 8:38 PM

I know 2 people who no longer have Hashimoto's because they changed the way

they think. Both are Christians. I believe that our thyroids can " wake up "

: )

CW

October 13, 2009

Means Jehovah.

hypothyroidism

From: deifspirit@...

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:14:06 -0700

Subject: RE: I'm so Angry

What does YHWH mean?

-- I'm so Angry

I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low thyroid

can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor has mentioned

this to me. I'm really furious because they have all tried to get me to take

statins, but never once suggested working with me to really raise my thyroid

level. Instead their stupid TSH test has falsely shown my thyroid to be

elevated, even though I kept complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just

took new thyroid tests yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now

maybe I will be able to get to the bottom of this mess.

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

October 13, 2009

That is really cool! i would like to know more about that Nancie. Can

acupuncture cure hypothyroidism is my question? Have you been going to her for

hypothyroidism?

hypothyroidism

From: deifspirit@...

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:49:10 -0700

Subject: Re: I'm so Angry

actually acupuncture can cure many diseases as any good

educated acupuncturist and either Chinese or Japanese practitioner will tell

you. I have a Chinese Medical Provider who is also my dentist and she has

degrees in both Chinese medicine and dentistry. She uses acupuncture and/or

herbs exclusively with many of her medical clients including several with

cancer. she has cured people of diseases and conditions using acupuncture.

Nancie

From: Debrah Galloway

Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:46 PM

Hypothyroidism

Subject: RE: I'm so Angry

It seems to me that if it clears blocked energies causing the body to access its

own power that that would be the key. Isn't that what the thyroid really

needs..access to power or to the body's own power, so that it can function

properly. And yes that may be what thousands of reputable practitioners say here

in America, while there are reputable practitioners in China that would say

otherwise. Sometimes i feel that we are a little close minded here and think

that all we need is a pill to solve all our problems. I " m not saying you do or

anyone on this program does. I " m just saying that about many here in America in

general.

hypothyroidism

From: matchermaam@...

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:15:20 -0700

Subject: RE: I'm so Angry

Accupuncture is good for clearing blocked energies so that the body can access

its own power. It doesn't " cure " anything, as any reputable practitioner will

tell you.

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

From: Debrah Galloway <debzdeb2@...>

Subject: RE: I'm so Angry

hypothyroidism

Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 8:00 AM

Hey i looked it up and found out from one websight that hypothyroidism is

perfectly curable (according to the chinese) with Herbal remedies, essential

oils, and acupuncture. Does anyone know anything about this.. or have experience

with it?

I have done some " energy work " with mine and it seemed to be improving for a

while. Kindof like it was 'waking up' if you will.

let me know!

hypothyroidism

From: vegasmomof3@...

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 23:23:23 -0700

Subject: RE: I'm so Angry

I was very angry too when I first started this journey a year and a half

ago. I've softened now because I've learned that the doctors just don't

know these things. It's not their fault completely. They are human just

like us and have families and being a doctor is their job. They don't have

time after work to do the hours of research that it would really take to

stay up on things.

Cholesterol lowering medications are the #1 money maker for pharmaceutical

companies. There is no incentive for them to tell us the truth, even if

they know it. Using something as simple as thyroid medicaion would ruin

them! Even so, most doctors do not know the thyroid/cholesterol link. They

aren't taught it in school - medical schools are usually funded by

pharmaceutical companies, so you can imagine why.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/03/medical-school-ethics-at-_n_171315.

html

Someone suggested www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

<http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/> - fantastic site. Another good one

is http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrenal_fatigue.asp.

My biggest advice is to learn how your body works. I not only looked at

sites like the ones I've recommended, but I also have read several books

written by doctors, medical journal research and even medical textbooks.

After being very ill for 20 years, and actually having issues for my whole

life (I'm 39) I said 'enough is enough'. I read everything I could get my

hands on and I continue to do so.

We have to be our own best health advocates!

_____

From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ]

On Behalf Of Roni Molin

Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:39 PM

hypothyroidism

Subject: I'm so Angry

I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low thyroid

can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor has mentioned

this to me. I'm really furious because they have all tried to get me to take

statins, but never once suggested working with me to really raise my thyroid

level. Instead their stupid TSH test has falsely shown my thyroid to be

elevated, even though I kept complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just

took new thyroid tests yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now

maybe I will be able to get to the bottom of this mess.

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

October 13, 2009

Hey i know of someone who had it....almost died..and currently does not

have it anymore. Completely gone. Cured. She used iodine.

hypothyroidism

From: rubyrain11@...

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:41:39 -0700

Subject: Re: Re: I'm so Angry

Funny, mine is going away on the iodine protocol.

-Ali

On Oct 12, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Crystal wrote:

> I know 2 people who do not know each other who no longer have

> hashi's and

> both of them changed the way they think. Fear, unforgiveness, anger,

> lust

> and others can cause the thyroid to stop working. If you can get rid

> of

> those stresses than maybe your thyroid can work again. http://store.iblp

> org/products/RSDS/

> CW

>

> -- Re: I'm so Angry

>

> You can find many websites with " cures " from anything and everything

> from cancer to hangnail, and for only a few dollars they will be

> glad to

> send you the concoctions. Bottom line is there is no known cure for

> hypothyroidism and anyone who tells you different is painfully lacking

> in knowledge or is a quack or con artist.

>

> .

>

> >

> > Posted by: " Debrah Galloway " debzdeb2@...

> > <mailto:debzdeb2@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20I%27m%20so%20Angry>

> >

> > Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:59 am (PDT)

> >

> > Hey i looked it up and found out from one websight that

> hypothyroidism

> > is perfectly curable (according to the chinese) with Herbal

> remedies,

> > essential oils, and acupuncture. Does anyone know anything about

> > this.. or have experience with it?

>

October 13, 2009

Perhaps. And perhaps the tooth fairy helped them! [ggg]

..

>

> Posted by: " Crystal " sweetnwright@...

> <mailto:sweetnwright@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20I%27m%20so%20Angry>

> sweetenloe1 <sweetenloe1>

>

> Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:43 am (PDT)

>

> I know 2 people who do not know each other who no longer have hashi's and

> both of them changed the way they think. Fear, unforgiveness, anger, lust

> and others can cause the thyroid to stop working. If you can get rid of

> those stresses than maybe your thyroid can work again.

> http://store.iblp <http://store.iblp>

> org/products/

> RSDS/

> CW

>

> -- Re: I'm so Angry

>

> You can find many websites with " cures " from anything and everything

> from cancer to hangnail, and for only a few dollars they will be glad to

> send you the concoctions. Bottom line is there is no known cure for

> hypothyroidism and anyone who tells you different is painfully lacking

> in knowledge or is a quack or con artist.

>

October 13, 2009

Earlier this year I read of a rather large study of acupuncture IIRC in

which two groups were treated. One group had the needles placed

according to the lore of the practice while the other group had the

needles placed at random locations. Both groups showed significant

improvement. I cannot now remember where I read about it.

>

> Posted by: " nancie barnett " deifspirit@...

> <mailto:deifspirit@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20I%27m%20so%20Angry>

> aspenfairy1 <aspenfairy1>

>

> Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:50 am (PDT)

>

> actually acupuncture can cure many diseases as any good educated

> acupuncturist and either Chinese or Japanese practitioner will tell

> you. I have a Chinese Medical Provider who is also my dentist and she

> has degrees in both Chinese medicine and dentistry. She uses

> acupuncture and/or herbs exclusively with many of her medical clients

> including several with cancer. she has cured people of diseases and

> conditions using acupuncture.

> Nancie

October 13, 2009

No matter what you try you're likely to either get better, get worse or

stay the same. The level of probability for each outcome depends upon

the condition as well as other factors. Thus an unrelated event can get

established as a causative factor in some minds.

..

>

> Posted by: " Bev " bdowns45681@...

> <mailto:bdowns45681@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20I%27m%20so%20Angry>

> bdowns45681 <bdowns45681>

>

> Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:36 am (PDT)

>

> I don't know about all the other stuff but I've tried acupuncture for

> other things that it was supposed to help but it didn't it just caused

> more pain for me.

> Bev

October 13, 2009

Healing isn't unusual in my world : ) I suppose God can heal anyone He

wants to.

CW

-- I'm so Angry

I guess I must be really thick, because I just discovered that low thyroid

can cause high cholesterol. All these years not one doctor has mentioned

this to me. I'm really furious because they have all tried to get me to take

statins, but never once suggested working with me to really raise my thyroid

level. Instead their stupid TSH test has falsely shown my thyroid to be

elevated, even though I kept complaining of low thyroid symptoms. I just

took new thyroid tests yesterday, as well as cholesterol tests too. Now

maybe I will be able to get to the bottom of this mess.

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

October 13, 2009

It's one way to say " God " in one particular creation myth. Frequently

written as " Yahweh " .

..

>

> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

> <mailto:matchermaam@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20I%27m%20so%20Angry>

> matchermaam <matchermaam>

>

> Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:35 pm (PDT)

>

> I don't understand your reference to these people being Christians.

> What does that have to do with anything?

>

> Roni

> <>Just because something

> isn't seen doesn't mean it's

> not there<>

>

> From: Crystal <sweetnwright@... <mailto:sweetnwright%40cox.net>>

> Subject: RE: I'm so Angry

> hypothyroidism

> <mailto:hypothyroidism%40>

> Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 8:38 PM

>

> I know 2 people who no longer have Hashimoto's because they changed

> the way

> they think. Both are Christians. I believe that our thyroids can

> " wake up "

> : )

> CW

October 13, 2009

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

From: <res075oh@...>

Subject: Re: I'm so Angry

hypothyroidism

Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 9:27 AM

Perhaps. And perhaps the tooth fairy helped them! [ggg]

..

>

> Posted by: " Crystal " sweetnwright@...

> <mailto:sweetnwright@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20I%27m%20so%20Angry>

> sweetenloe1 <sweetenloe1>

>

> Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:43 am (PDT)

>

> I know 2 people who do not know each other who no longer have hashi's and

> both of them changed the way they think. Fear, unforgiveness, anger, lust

> and others can cause the thyroid to stop working. If you can get rid of

> those stresses than maybe your thyroid can work again.

> http://store.iblp <http://store.iblp>

> org/products/

> RSDS/

> CW

>

> -- Re: I'm so Angry

>

> You can find many websites with " cures " from anything and everything

> from cancer to hangnail, and for only a few dollars they will be glad to

> send you the concoctions. Bottom line is there is no known cure for

> hypothyroidism and anyone who tells you different is painfully lacking

> in knowledge or is a quack or con artist.

>

------------------------------------

October 13, 2009

It's the same with hypnosis. My whole family went to see a show and there was

hypnotist

who was going to hypnotize the entire audience. I experienced nothing, my

husband either

and also my mother. My father, however, started to get hypnotized until my

mother pinched him. Some people are just more susceptible to suggestion.

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

From: <res075oh@...>

Subject: Re: I'm so Angry

hypothyroidism

Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 9:36 AM

No matter what you try you're likely to either get better, get worse or

stay the same. The level of probability for each outcome depends upon

the condition as well as other factors. Thus an unrelated event can get

established as a causative factor in some minds.

..

>

> Posted by: " Bev " bdowns45681@...

> <mailto:bdowns45681@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20I%27m%20so%20Angry>

> bdowns45681 <bdowns45681>

>

> Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:36 am (PDT)

>

> I don't know about all the other stuff but I've tried acupuncture for

> other things that it was supposed to help but it didn't it just caused

> more pain for me.

> Bev

------------------------------------

October 13, 2009

Again IIRC there have been credible studies that showed healing benefit

due to belief/faith. But not any particular faith.

..

>

> Posted by: " Debrah Galloway " debzdeb2@...

> <mailto:debzdeb2@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20I%27m%20so%20Angry>

>

> Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:08 pm (PDT)

>

> Sounds to me like what you believe in has the most powerful effect!

>

> hypothyroidism

> <mailto:hypothyroidism%40>

> From: res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>

> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:32:05 -0400

> Subject: Re: I'm so Angry

>

> Earlier this year I read of a rather large study of acupuncture IIRC in

>

> which two groups were treated. One group had the needles placed

>

> according to the lore of the practice while the other group had the

>

> needles placed at random locations. Both groups showed significant

>

> improvement. I cannot now remember where I read about it.

>

October 13, 2009

I think your response is perfectly natural and understandable. God is

sovereign and our thoughts are not His thoughts.

CW

-- Re: I'm so Angry

And what kind of creature could watch hundreds of innocent children

suffer unspeakably and die every day when he could heal them all with a

snap of his fingers??? What kind of name would you call a human who

withheld healing from the innocent when he/she was perfectly capable of

healing them with no cost to him/herself?

..

>

> Posted by: " Crystal " sweetnwright@...

> <mailto:sweetnwright@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20I%27m%20so%20Angry>

> sweetenloe1 <sweetenloe1>

>

> Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:42 am (PDT)

>

> Healing isn't unusual in my world : ) I suppose God can heal anyone He

> wants to.

> CW

October 14, 2009

A long time ago, I had a supervisor who always taught us " If you think you can,

you can! "

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

From: <res075oh@...>

Subject: Re: I'm so Angry

hypothyroidism

Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 10:38 PM

Again IIRC there have been credible studies that showed healing benefit

due to belief/faith. But not any particular faith.

..

>

> Posted by: " Debrah Galloway " debzdeb2@...

> <mailto:debzdeb2@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20I%27m%20so%20Angry>

>

> Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:08 pm (PDT)

>

> Sounds to me like what you believe in has the most powerful effect!

>

> hypothyroidism

> <mailto:hypothyroidism%40>

> From: res075oh@... <mailto:res075oh%40verizon.net>

> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:32:05 -0400

> Subject: Re: I'm so Angry

>

> Earlier this year I read of a rather large study of acupuncture IIRC in

>

> which two groups were treated. One group had the needles placed

>

> according to the lore of the practice while the other group had the

>

> needles placed at random locations. Both groups showed significant

>

> improvement. I cannot now remember where I read about it.

>

------------------------------------

October 14, 2009

I know the accounts of the gospels vary. Luke (who was a doctor) gave a

different account of Christ's last words than Mark did. So the agony Christ

faced was told by different people from their viewpoint which gives a more

balanced story. The better question is how can all of these different

people write about the same man who has been historically proven as much as

any other biblical figure, be denied today like he never lived? People

walked among him and wrote his about his life. Those people saw different

things as we all do when we meet and become friends with someone.

-- Re: I'm so Angry

According to scripture what were the last words Christ said before he

died upon the cross, which atoned for all the sins of all the true

believers now and forever?

..

>

> Posted by: " Crystal " sweetnwright@...

> <mailto:sweetnwright@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20I%27m%20so%20Angry>

> sweetenloe1 <sweetenloe1>

>

> Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:23 pm (PDT)

>

> According to scripture (Isaiah 53:5) because Christ was beaten we are able

> to receive healing.

October 14, 2009

The bible was begun to be written two or three decades after his death, and then

other people of newer generations kept working on it and in some instances

changed things. None of them walked anywhere near him.

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

From: Crystal <sweetnwright@...>

Subject: Re: Re: I'm so Angry

hypothyroidism

Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 11:30 PM