Re: depression

[Guest guest]

I currently bought the Glucometer Elite XL which has a port that allows you

to upload your bg's into a pc (unfortunately not available for the mac).

You can download the software, WinGlucofacts, ($50.00 value on disk or

CD-ROM) from Bayer's website for free:

http://www.glucometerelitexl.com/orderfrm.htm

It's too bad that these companies charge you for these " extras " . I realize

that with improved technologies there are costs involved. But you would

think, that, diabetes being a billion dollars a year plus industry, they

would include, or offer the cable ($30.00) to you at a discount or for free

- particularly if your insurance doesn't cover any of these " extras " .

I haven't bought the cable yet. I just enter my readings in MS Excel or

Cricket Graph on the Mac for my own analyses and graphs.

At 09:49 PM 9/22/1999 EDT, you wrote:

>From: DeeBent@...

>

><< >For the Accuchek software, just call the company. They will send it to

>you,

> >the software for the Complete was $35. I got in in two days.

>

> How much do you pay for the cable?

> >>

>

>The cable is included in the $35 price.

>

>

>>

sy1@...

[Guest guest]

Ya, I have that one also. Works good huh?

fp

Re: depression

>

>

>I currently bought the Glucometer Elite XL which has a port that allows you

>to upload your bg's into a pc (unfortunately not available for the mac).

>You can download the software, WinGlucofacts, ($50.00 value on disk or

>CD-ROM) from Bayer's website for free:

>

>http://www.glucometerelitexl.com/orderfrm.htm

>

>It's too bad that these companies charge you for these " extras " . I realize

>that with improved technologies there are costs involved. But you would

>think, that, diabetes being a billion dollars a year plus industry, they

>would include, or offer the cable ($30.00) to you at a discount or for free

>- particularly if your insurance doesn't cover any of these " extras " .

>

>I haven't bought the cable yet. I just enter my readings in MS Excel or

>Cricket Graph on the Mac for my own analyses and graphs.

>

>At 09:49 PM 9/22/1999 EDT, you wrote:

>>From: DeeBent@...

>>

>><< >For the Accuchek software, just call the company. They will send it

to

>>you,

>> >the software for the Complete was $35. I got in in two days.

>>

>> How much do you pay for the cable?

>> >>

>>

>>The cable is included in the $35 price.

>>

>>

>>>

>

>sy1@...

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks , that strip is new up here I just ordered some samples to try..

How do you find the machine for accuracy?

fp

Re: depression

>From: DeeBent@...

>

>In a message dated 9/23/1999 5:23:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>footprnt@... writes:

>

><< To: in Cinci....sorry but with all the back and forths I've

>lost

> track of what meter we were talking about please let me know exactly what

> type it is I wanna try and get one. Thanks

> fp

> >>

>

>Both the AccuChek Advantage and the AccuChek Complete use these strips. I

>have the Complete, my mom has the Advantage.

>

> in Cincinnati

>

>

[Guest guest]

, how does the software chart look?

Fp

Re: depression

>From: DeeBent@...

>

>In a message dated 9/23/1999 8:35:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>sy1@... writes:

>

><< It's too bad that these companies charge you for these " extras " . I

realize

> that with improved technologies there are costs involved. But you would

> think, that, diabetes being a billion dollars a year plus industry, they

> would include, or offer the cable ($30.00) to you at a discount or for

free

> - particularly if your insurance doesn't cover any of these " extras " .

> >>

>

>Ain't that the truth! I had to wait 6 months to get the software because I

>was unemployed when I got the Complete meter! As soon as I was once again

>employed, I ordered the software. It makes it SO MUCH EASIER than doing it

>on Excel, which I was.

>

> in Cincinnati

>

>

[Guest guest]

It looks very nice. You can check out some screen shots on Bayer's website at:

http://www.glucometerelitexl.com/screens.asp

It's just that, at this point in time, I refuse to buy the cable at $30.00

plus S/H. I may, in the future, change my mind. I have enough out of pocket

expense paying for strips. The reason I bought the Elite XL was because of

its better memory and storage of bg's than the Elite.

If you're asking about charts in general, they're just regular pie, line or

bar graphs, etc. Plus I can have excel or cricket graph do some statistics

for me like average, max or min bg's, and so forth.

steven

nyc, type II, ten years.

At 10:31 AM 9/23/1999 -0400, you wrote:

>

>

>, how does the software chart look?

>Fp

>

> Re: depression

>

>

>>From: DeeBent@...

>>

>>In a message dated 9/23/1999 8:35:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>>sy1@... writes:

>>

>><< It's too bad that these companies charge you for these " extras " . I

>realize

>> that with improved technologies there are costs involved. But you would

>> think, that, diabetes being a billion dollars a year plus industry, they

>> would include, or offer the cable ($30.00) to you at a discount or for

>free

>> - particularly if your insurance doesn't cover any of these " extras " .

>> >>

>>

>>Ain't that the truth! I had to wait 6 months to get the software because I

>>was unemployed when I got the Complete meter! As soon as I was once again

>>employed, I ordered the software. It makes it SO MUCH EASIER than doing it

>>on Excel, which I was.

>>

>> in Cincinnati

>>

>>

>

>>

[Guest guest]

, get on the phone and call 'em direct and cry to 'em, make up some

sob story. You can do it, get tough!!.

fp

Re: depression

>>

>>

>>>From: DeeBent@...

>>>

>>>In a message dated 9/23/1999 8:35:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>>>sy1@... writes:

>>>

>>><< It's too bad that these companies charge you for these " extras " . I

>>realize

>>> that with improved technologies there are costs involved. But you would

>>> think, that, diabetes being a billion dollars a year plus industry, they

>>> would include, or offer the cable ($30.00) to you at a discount or for

>>free

>>> - particularly if your insurance doesn't cover any of these " extras " .

>>> >>

>>>

>>>Ain't that the truth! I had to wait 6 months to get the software because

I

>>>was unemployed when I got the Complete meter! As soon as I was once

again

>>>employed, I ordered the software. It makes it SO MUCH EASIER than doing

it

>>>on Excel, which I was.

>>>

>>> in Cincinnati

>>>

>>>

>>

>>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What the hell, all they can say is no right?

steven

At 02:57 PM 9/23/1999 -0400, you wrote:

>

>

>, get on the phone and call 'em direct and cry to 'em, make up some

>sob story. You can do it, get tough!!.

>fp

>

> Re: depression

>

>

>>

>>

>>It looks very nice. You can check out some screen shots on Bayer's website

>at:

>>

>>http://www.glucometerelitexl.com/screens.asp

>>

>>It's just that, at this point in time, I refuse to buy the cable at $30.00

>>plus S/H. I may, in the future, change my mind. I have enough out of pocket

>>expense paying for strips. The reason I bought the Elite XL was because of

>>its better memory and storage of bg's than the Elite.

>>

>>If you're asking about charts in general, they're just regular pie, line or

>>bar graphs, etc. Plus I can have excel or cricket graph do some statistics

>>for me like average, max or min bg's, and so forth.

>>

>>steven

>>nyc, type II, ten years.

>>

[Guest guest]

That's right , but if you play your cards right you'll find 'em purty

sympathetic. We all hate rejection don't we. LOL

fp

Re: depression

>>

>>

>>>

>>>

>>>It looks very nice. You can check out some screen shots on Bayer's

website

>>at:

>>>

>>>http://www.glucometerelitexl.com/screens.asp

>>>

>>>It's just that, at this point in time, I refuse to buy the cable at

$30.00

>>>plus S/H. I may, in the future, change my mind. I have enough out of

pocket

>>>expense paying for strips. The reason I bought the Elite XL was because

of

>>>its better memory and storage of bg's than the Elite.

>>>

>>>If you're asking about charts in general, they're just regular pie, line

or

>>>bar graphs, etc. Plus I can have excel or cricket graph do some

statistics

>>>for me like average, max or min bg's, and so forth.

>>>

>>>steven

>>>nyc, type II, ten years.

>>>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 08:34 AM 9/23/99 -0400, R. Yuen you wrote:

>I haven't bought the cable yet. I just enter my readings in MS Excel or

>Cricket Graph on the Mac for my own analyses and graphs.

I agree.. Unless I need to do some scientific analyst, then why I had to

fork out

more money when other source is available..

[Guest guest]

At 02:33 PM 9/23/99 -0400, R. Yuen you wrote:

>If you're asking about charts in general, they're just regular pie, line or

>bar graphs, etc. Plus I can have excel or cricket graph do some statistics

>for me like average, max or min bg's, and so forth.

You could used Acess to the same...

[Guest guest]

I called this morning and the Kari, the service rep said, " Sorry, we don't

have any kind of program in place at this time to offer you a cable. " I

explained to her that my medical / prescription plan doesn't cover the

strips, lancets, etc. I use for my Glucometer Elite and Elite XL. Also,

that testing up to three times a day gets very costly. She said she

understands but unfortunately, no can do. She also said that I could save a

lot of money by downloading their software, WinGlucofacts from their

website for free. I said I already have but don't use it because I don't

have the cable.

It's too bad that Bayer turns its back on the little guys just when you

need them.

Matter of principle.

steven

At 05:13 PM 9/23/1999 -0400, you wrote:

>

>

>That's right , but if you play your cards right you'll find 'em purty

>sympathetic. We all hate rejection don't we. LOL

>fp

>

> Re: depression

>

>

>>

>>

>>What the hell, all they can say is no right?

>>

>>steven

>>

>>At 02:57 PM 9/23/1999 -0400, you wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>, get on the phone and call 'em direct and cry to 'em, make up some

>>>sob story. You can do it, get tough!!.

>>>fp

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/23/1999 10:29:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

footprnt@... writes:

<< Thanks , that strip is new up here I just ordered some samples to

try..

How do you find the machine for accuracy?

fp >>

As far as accuracy goes, so far it has been right on. My last A1C was 6.3

(yipee!) and it coincided with the average results from my Complete.

in Cincinnati

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/23/1999 10:30:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

footprnt@... writes:

<< , how does the software chart look?

Fp >>

I will try to send you a copy of my latest report. I don't know if you will

be able to read it or not, but it's worth a try!

in Cincinnati

[Guest guest]

Get a supervisor, tell yr testing 8 + times a day, sob, sob

fp

Re: depression

>>

>>

>>>

>>>

>>>What the hell, all they can say is no right?

>>>

>>>steven

>>>

>>>At 02:57 PM 9/23/1999 -0400, you wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>, get on the phone and call 'em direct and cry to 'em, make up

some

>>>>sob story. You can do it, get tough!!.

>>>>fp

>

>>

[Guest guest]

Thanks , I will check it out.

fp

Re: depression

>In a message dated 9/23/1999 10:30:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>footprnt@... writes:

>

><< , how does the software chart look?

> Fp >>

>

>I will try to send you a copy of my latest report. I don't know if you

will

>be able to read it or not, but it's worth a try!

>

> in Cincinnati

>

[Guest guest]

, whats a .MTR file.?? Opens with what program?

fp

Re: depression

>In a message dated 9/23/1999 10:30:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>footprnt@... writes:

>

><< , how does the software chart look?

> Fp >>

>

>I will try to send you a copy of my latest report. I don't know if you

will

>be able to read it or not, but it's worth a try!

>

> in Cincinnati

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/26/1999 9:25:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

footprnt@... writes:

<< , whats a .MTR file.?? Opens with what program?

fp >>

Probably opens only with Accutility. Sorry. I'll try to figure some way of

converting it.

in Cincinnati

[Guest guest]

They have this new comfort curve strip that pulls the blood into it so you

need only a tiny drop, they're great :0

Meenie

Re: depression

>

>

>>From: DeeBent@...

>>

>>In a message dated 9/20/1999 12:31:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>>b-allen@... writes:

>>

>><< How do you know the meter is erratic? And how did you get your meters

>> without paying for them? Have you tried the Advantage Accuchek, and if

>so,

>> what did you think of it?

>> Thanks,

>> Debbie

>> >>

>>

>>Debbie,

>>

>>My mother has the Accuchek Advantage, and I have the Accuchek Complete.

We

>>are both completely satisfied with our meters. The Complete downloads to

a

>>computer program called Accutility. Unfortunately, it runs about $35. I

>>used to use a One Touch Basic, it was good, but the Accuchek is easier to

>>use, it requires less blood, and the sample is easier to get onto the

strip

>>with the new comfort curve strips.

>>

>> in Cincinnati

>>

>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It sure does, I just finished trying them out and they work good although

they require quite a lot of blood compared to Glucometer Elite or FastTake.

The accuracy is excellent too.

fp

Re: depression

>>

>>

>>>From: DeeBent@...

>>>

>>>In a message dated 9/20/1999 12:31:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>>>b-allen@... writes:

>>>

>>><< How do you know the meter is erratic? And how did you get your meters

>>> without paying for them? Have you tried the Advantage Accuchek, and if

>>so,

>>> what did you think of it?

>>> Thanks,

>>> Debbie

>>> >>

>>>

>>>Debbie,

>>>

>>>My mother has the Accuchek Advantage, and I have the Accuchek Complete.

>We

>>>are both completely satisfied with our meters. The Complete downloads to

>a

>>>computer program called Accutility. Unfortunately, it runs about $35. I

>>>used to use a One Touch Basic, it was good, but the Accuchek is easier to

>>>use, it requires less blood, and the sample is easier to get onto the

>strip

>>>with the new comfort curve strips.

>>>

>>> in Cincinnati

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

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