Re: and now that yall prolly think I'm nuts

[Guest guest]

> How many of yall do the same thing with other things.

> Know more about certain things than most people or

> research odd bits of material... for years.

Computer, engine (especially turbine of any kind), law & court rulling

(to be exact, the recent supreme Chaoulli & Zeliotis vs the Quebec

health system court rulling but also the Auton case), Autism & Asperger

informations.

except the engine & turbine stuff, all of this has been necessity,

computer because i had problem handwritting (dysgraphia?), Linux because

i had problem with windows, making my own Linux distribution because i

had problem with Linux, law & court rulling because i'm sueing Quebec's

ministry of education, Autism & Asperger for the same reason but also to

better know about myself.

I've been diagnosed Autistic in December last year but today, i knew

that i've been diagnosed having Asperger Syndrome about 11 years ago but

the diagnostic was marked " confidential " all over it, this is probably

one of the reason i phoned my SS agent about 10 times in the last 3

month and i had to write a (legaly threatening) letter in order to get

the dawn thing, this was the last missing puzzle piece i needed in order

to sue the ministry.

Alain

[Guest guest]

My reading tends to be eclectic, but certain strands reoccur. For

example, here are two other blubs from my book page:

Killer Smog, by Wise (Rand McNally, 1968). Engrossing account

of the lethal 1952 " smog incident " in London. Includes an overview of

the several centuries' worth of bureaucratic waffling that made it

all possible.

Heat Wave: A Social Autopsy of Disaster in Chicago, by

Klinenberg (University of Chicago Press, 2002). This is a good book.

Klinenberg investigated what factors determined which members of

vulnerable populations survived and which members died in the 1995

Chicago heat wave. (There were between 645 and 733 heat-related

deaths in one week, depending on who is doing the counting.)

Fascinating stuff. Besides telling that story well, Klinenberg uses

the details of the disaster to bring to light (and illustrate) some

deeply disturbing trends in U.S. society and politics. The currently

popular " entrepreneurial " style of government, he shows, turns out

to be a new, more efficient way to ensure that the " haves " get more

and the " have-nots " end up even more cut off from public services.

Klinenberg also examines the role of the media and their

interactions with government agencies. Highly recommended.

As it says on the top of my book page, " My library card is one of my

most precious possessions! "

Jane

[Guest guest]

> except the engine & turbine stuff, all of this has been necessity,

And these necessity are one of the reasons i don't post often, they take

a lot of time.

Alain

[Guest guest]

hey Alain

I do the court stuff too... does that mean your on

disability? If you don't want to answer that of course

you don't have to... just wondering how hard it is to

get if diagnosed in the austism spectrum.

Serena

--- Alain Toussaint

wrote:

> > How many of yall do the same thing with other

> things.

> > Know more about certain things than most people or

> > research odd bits of material... for years.

>

> Computer, engine (especially turbine of any kind),

> law & court rulling

> (to be exact, the recent supreme Chaoulli & Zeliotis

> vs the Quebec

> health system court rulling but also the Auton

> case), Autism & Asperger

> informations.

>

> except the engine & turbine stuff, all of this has

> been necessity,

> computer because i had problem handwritting

> (dysgraphia?), Linux because

> i had problem with windows, making my own Linux

> distribution because i

> had problem with Linux, law & court rulling because

> i'm sueing Quebec's

> ministry of education, Autism & Asperger for the

> same reason but also to

> better know about myself.

>

> I've been diagnosed Autistic in December last year

> but today, i knew

> that i've been diagnosed having Asperger Syndrome

> about 11 years ago but

> the diagnostic was marked " confidential " all over

> it, this is probably

> one of the reason i phoned my SS agent about 10

> times in the last 3

> month and i had to write a (legaly threatening)

> letter in order to get

> the dawn thing, this was the last missing puzzle

> piece i needed in order

> to sue the ministry.

>

> Alain

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

hey Jane

Killer smog sounds good.... the name alone reminds me

of what is going on in Tehran right now.. I'm pretty

eclectic in my reading too.. music as well... I love a

variety.

Serena

--- Jane Meyerding wrote:

> My reading tends to be eclectic, but certain strands

> reoccur. For

> example, here are two other blubs from my book

> page:

>

> Killer Smog, by Wise (Rand McNally, 1968).

> Engrossing account

> of the lethal 1952 " smog incident " in London.

> Includes an overview of

> the several centuries' worth of bureaucratic

> waffling that made it

> all possible.

>

> Heat Wave: A Social Autopsy of Disaster in Chicago,

> by

> Klinenberg (University of Chicago Press, 2002). This

> is a good book.

> Klinenberg investigated what factors determined

> which members of

> vulnerable populations survived and which members

> died in the 1995

> Chicago heat wave. (There were between 645 and 733

> heat-related

> deaths in one week, depending on who is doing the

> counting.)

> Fascinating stuff. Besides telling that story well,

> Klinenberg uses

> the details of the disaster to bring to light (and

> illustrate) some

> deeply disturbing trends in U.S. society and

> politics. The currently

> popular " entrepreneurial " style of government, he

> shows, turns out

> to be a new, more efficient way to ensure that the

> " haves " get more

> and the " have-nots " end up even more cut off from

> public services.

> Klinenberg also examines the role of the media and

> their

> interactions with government agencies. Highly

> recommended.

>

> As it says on the top of my book page, " My library

> card is one of my

> most precious possessions! "

>

> Jane

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure if you were implying Bubonic Plague was level four, but

it isn't. It's level three, along with botulism and anthrax. Ebola

however is BSL-4.

But yeah... I am the same way. I am really into medical stuff and

bioscience, which is a relatively new perseveration in that I only got

back into science in the past year after a long hiatus (I spent my

childhood in love with science).

I'm also into worldbuilding/the development of my own science fiction universe.

I have always been really into diseases, but I am more into the human

aspect, I spend more time reading about people's experience with the

disease and its emotional/social/cultural impact than the more arcane

scientific aspects, although lately more and more those scientific

aspects are fascinating me as well.

After spending my twenties underemployed in computers, I am happily

shifting into health care. I love it, too.

> How many of yall do the same thing with other things.

> Know more about certain things than most people or

> research odd bits of material... for years.

>

> For me the other research topics I tend to stress are

> the black death ( go figure)

> all level four viruses - are we noticing a trend yet

> and the Holocaust... no one in my family was or is

> jewish ... I read a book when I was ten for young

> adults by a young adult... other than the diary of

> anne frank, and was hooked on learning about it.

>

> Serena

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Nah I knew bubonic was a level three because there is

treatment for it... oddly enough.. I got out of video

games till recently.. its a passion again,and one i've

really enjoyed. Sometimes the games made for kids are

a lot of fun because of my lack of good hand eye

coordination. the level of coordination I have is as

good as it is because I played video games so much as

a child.... plus it does help w/ stress relief.

Serena

--- " a.f.wilson " wrote:

> I'm not sure if you were implying Bubonic Plague was

> level four, but

> it isn't. It's level three, along with botulism and

> anthrax. Ebola

> however is BSL-4.

>

> But yeah... I am the same way. I am really into

> medical stuff and

> bioscience, which is a relatively new perseveration

> in that I only got

> back into science in the past year after a long

> hiatus (I spent my

> childhood in love with science).

> I'm also into worldbuilding/the development of my

> own science fiction universe.

>

> I have always been really into diseases, but I am

> more into the human

> aspect, I spend more time reading about people's

> experience with the

> disease and its emotional/social/cultural impact

> than the more arcane

> scientific aspects, although lately more and more

> those scientific

> aspects are fascinating me as well.

>

> After spending my twenties underemployed in

> computers, I am happily

> shifting into health care. I love it, too.

>

>

> On 12/12/05, Serena Pridgen

> wrote:

> > How many of yall do the same thing with other

> things.

> > Know more about certain things than most people

> or

> > research odd bits of material... for years.

> >

> > For me the other research topics I tend to stress

> are

> > the black death ( go figure)

> > all level four viruses - are we noticing a trend

> yet

> > and the Holocaust... no one in my family was or

> is

> > jewish ... I read a book when I was ten for young

> > adults by a young adult... other than the diary

> of

> > anne frank, and was hooked on learning about it.

> >

> > Serena

> >

> >

> __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

> I do the court stuff too... does that mean your on

> disability?

yes I am.

according to some other people, i don't deserve it but i don't care

about them, some other people are wondering how i can manage being at

university (my management teacher for example couldn't believe it), i

had 2 fellow student who recognize me as a genius but other than that,

i'm still having a hard time going through everything i started.

> If you don't want to answer that of course

> you don't have to...

no big deal, if it help someone here, all the better.

> just wondering how hard it is to

> get if diagnosed in the austism spectrum.

umm... ehh... it's a big story, give me a few hours and i should have it

written down.

Alain

[Guest guest]

I do it with medicine. I used to be into cosmology and astrophysics more

than medicine, but switched about 8 or 10 years ago, I guess. I tend to

know more about stuff than the doctors do, and have to direct them to the

relevant literature.

Lately, I've been obsessing about birth. Research into natural birth,

unassisted birth, medicalized (shudder) birth, etc. Probably perfectly

normal, since I'm due with my fifth baby (3rd pregnancy) pretty soon, and

I've been screwed over by professionals with every other birth. Hopefully

the birth obsession will end after the baby comes. I get really into it, I

know a lot about it and I get very passionate about all sorts of little

details with it. Definitely a perseveration. But I need to find a new one,

because this one isn't going anywhere. I could never be a midwife or even a

doula, because I know I'd get banned from every hospital and who knows what

else, because I'm too confrontational.

Elayne

http://www.huntfamilyhome.net

" The government thinks you're an idiot. " -- Radley Balko,

www.theagitator.com

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Serena Pridgen

> How many of yall do the same thing with other things.

> Know more about certain things than most people or

> research odd bits of material... for years.

[Guest guest]

That's 'cause we're all nuts...teehee...

Elayne

http://www.huntfamilyhome.net

" The government thinks you're an idiot. " -- Radley Balko,

www.theagitator.com

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Serena Pridgen

> I do notice no one has said I wasn't nuts.

[Guest guest]

It's interesting how many of us are into viruses...I haven't read any

recent books on viruses and disease, but one of my favorites in my

collection is The Science of Viruses by Ann Giudici Fettner. The

section on the Sleeping Sickness (last big flu pandemic) was

fascinating. What I found the most interesting was the connection

between influenza and heart disease, and that the influenza's real

target is the heart, or at least the ordinary flus and the Sleeping

Sickness has been connected to heart disease. The lungs have a defense

system (hence flu symptoms), but the heart is a sitting duck, and

suffers in silence...

Anyway, things that I research or have researched extensively are: (no

particular order, just as I think of them)

- astrophysics & quanta

- viruses

- DNA

- neurosis

- human sexuality

- vampires (and death)

- cats (first perseveration as a kid)

- microsoft

- court cases that challenge freedom of speech

- pollutants

- evolution

a

> How many of yall do the same thing with other things.

> Know more about certain things than most people or

> research odd bits of material... for years. 

>

> For me the other research topics I tend to stress are

> the black death ( go figure)

> all level four viruses - are we noticing a trend yet

> and the Holocaust... no one in my family was or is

> jewish ... I read a book when I was ten for young

> adults by a young adult... other than the diary of

> anne frank, and was hooked on learning about it.

>

> Serena

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I do too, usually, but I've decided that the fringe is an okay place to

be...more fun...

Elayne

http://www.huntfamilyhome.net

" The government thinks you're an idiot. " -- Radley Balko,

www.theagitator.com

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Serena Pridgen

> I think i'm aspy.. my aspy friends thin I'm

> aspy... but still.. I kinda feel on the fringe..

[Guest guest]

a

That looks really neat I " ll have to look into that.

I do notice no one has said I wasn't nuts.

Serena

--- " a C. MacNeil " wrote:

> It's interesting how many of us are into viruses...I

> haven't read any

> recent books on viruses and disease, but one of my

> favorites in my

> collection is The Science of Viruses by Ann Giudici

> Fettner. The

> section on the Sleeping Sickness (last big flu

> pandemic) was

> fascinating. What I found the most interesting was

> the connection

> between influenza and heart disease, and that the

> influenza's real

> target is the heart, or at least the ordinary flus

> and the Sleeping

> Sickness has been connected to heart disease. The

> lungs have a defense

> system (hence flu symptoms), but the heart is a

> sitting duck, and

> suffers in silence...

>

> Anyway, things that I research or have researched

> extensively are: (no

> particular order, just as I think of them)

>

> - astrophysics & quanta

> - viruses

> - DNA

> - neurosis

> - human sexuality

> - vampires (and death)

> - cats (first perseveration as a kid)

> - microsoft

> - court cases that challenge freedom of speech

> - pollutants

> - evolution

>

> a

>

>

>

>

> > How many of yall do the same thing with other

> things.

> > Know more about certain things than most people

> or

> > research odd bits of material... for years. 

> >

> > For me the other research topics I tend to stress

> are

> > the black death ( go figure)

> > all level four viruses - are we noticing a trend

> yet

> > and the Holocaust... no one in my family was or

> is

> > jewish ... I read a book when I was ten for young

> > adults by a young adult... other than the diary

> of

> > anne frank, and was hooked on learning about it.

> >

> > Serena

> >

> >

> __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Elayne

Since i " m only diagnosed NVLD that was really nice to

hear.... I think i'm aspy.. my aspy friends thin I'm

aspy... but still.. I kinda feel on the fringe..

Serena

--- Elayne Glantzberg

wrote:

> That's 'cause we're all nuts...teehee...

>

> Elayne

> http://www.huntfamilyhome.net

> " The government thinks you're an idiot. " -- Radley

> Balko,

> www.theagitator.com

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Serena Pridgen

> > I do notice no one has said I wasn't nuts.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've never gotten to that place.. i mean yea its more

fun, but it still bothers me... a lot.. for some

reason.

Serena

--- Elayne Glantzberg

wrote:

> I do too, usually, but I've decided that the fringe

> is an okay place to

> be...more fun...

>

> Elayne

> http://www.huntfamilyhome.net

> " The government thinks you're an idiot. " -- Radley

> Balko,

> www.theagitator.com

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Serena Pridgen

> > I think i'm aspy.. my aspy friends thin I'm

> > aspy... but still.. I kinda feel on the fringe..

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

a wrote:

>It's interesting how many of us are into viruses...I haven't read any

>recent books on viruses and disease, but one of my favorites in my

>collection is The Science of Viruses by Ann Giudici Fettner. The

>section on the Sleeping Sickness (last big flu pandemic) was

>fascinating.

When I was in 3rd or 4th grade, we were told that one of our

classmates was out of school because she had sleeping sickness. That

was in northern Illinois in 1958 or '59. Know anything about a

sleeping sickness outbreak then? I never heard of anyone else in the

U.S. getting that disease.

Jane

[Guest guest]

I haven't heard of it either, I have heard of limited

cases in the US of people going to sleep for a really

long time and then waking up years later, and I have

to wonder oif she wasn't talking about narcolpsy.

Serena

--- Jane Meyerding wrote:

> a wrote:

> >It's interesting how many of us are into

> viruses...I haven't read any

> >recent books on viruses and disease, but one of my

> favorites in my

> >collection is The Science of Viruses by Ann Giudici

> Fettner. The

> >section on the Sleeping Sickness (last big flu

> pandemic) was

> >fascinating.

>

> When I was in 3rd or 4th grade, we were told that

> one of our

> classmates was out of school because she had

> sleeping sickness. That

> was in northern Illinois in 1958 or '59. Know

> anything about a

> sleeping sickness outbreak then? I never heard of

> anyone else in the

> U.S. getting that disease.

>

> Jane

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It mostly only bothers me now because I don't always have somebody to talk

to. I have exactly one friend, and if she's not available, I have nobody.

And I never have anybody to do anything with. That's what bothers being

about " being fringe " : I have no community, no circle of friends. And I'm

unable to acquire one. I accept that, but I don't have to like it.

Elayne

http://www.huntfamilyhome.net

" The government thinks you're an idiot. " -- Radley Balko,

www.theagitator.com

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Serena Pridgen

> I've never gotten to that place.. i mean yea its more

> fun, but it still bothers me... a lot.. for some

> reason.

[Guest guest]

" Sleeping " sickness, yes, it's also something you can get from the

tse-tse fly....but Sleeping sickness was also the name of flu pandemic

that began in 1918. Sorry for the confusion

I've had a long day today. I travelled 90 minutes to the city after

two hours sleep and my brakes gave out once to the city. Brake lines

broke, probably due to the last cold snap we had. Got the brakes fixed

in the city. Then started my way home. Car started bucking and the

speedometer went crazy. Had to pullover, turn off the car and wait for

my husband and a friend to travel 90 kms to get me and the car. Sat

there and shivered. Get home, there's 78 e-mails in my inbox, 2/3's of

them from here!

a

> a wrote:

> >It's interesting how many of us are into viruses...I haven't read any

> >recent books on viruses and disease, but one of my favorites in my

> >collection is The Science of Viruses by Ann Giudici Fettner.  The

> >section on the Sleeping Sickness (last big flu pandemic) was

> >fascinating.

>

> When I was in 3rd or 4th grade, we were told that one of our

> classmates was out of school because she had sleeping sickness. That

> was in northern Illinois in 1958 or '59. Know anything about a

> sleeping sickness outbreak then? I never heard of anyone else in the

> U.S. getting that disease.

>

> Jane

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

No, not narcolepsy. I know what that is, in fact I was going to ask

others here something in regards to it sometime as I've had

narcoleptic-like episodes, especially between 14 and 19 when they hit

me everyday. Might as well do so now come to think...

I've heard of those on the autistic spectrum having epileptic

" episodes " at certain junctures in their life, not continuous, but

sporadic or only during a certain time period, then they disappear.

Has anyone heard of connections between autism and narcoleptic (or

narcoleptic-like) seizures in the same way? I don't mean being a

lifelong epileptic or narcoleptic. Forgive me my question isn't clear,

I'm having a real hard time thinking right now.

As to Sleeping Sickness...I also learned about the 1918 flu under this

name in grade 6. It's apparently not a very well known term for it

nowadays (?). The book I mentioned earlier (Science of Viruses) also

refers to it as the sleeping sickness.

a

> I haven't heard of it either, I have heard of limited

> cases in the US of people going to sleep for a really

> long time and then waking up years later, and I have

> to wonder oif she wasn't talking about narcolpsy.

> Serena

>

> --- Jane Meyerding wrote:

>

> > a wrote:

> > >It's interesting how many of us are into

> > viruses...I haven't read any

> > >recent books on viruses and disease, but one of my

> > favorites in my

> > >collection is The Science of Viruses by Ann Giudici

> > Fettner.  The

> > >section on the Sleeping Sickness (last big flu

> > pandemic) was

> > >fascinating.

> >

> > When I was in 3rd or 4th grade, we were told that

> > one of our

> > classmates was out of school because she had

> > sleeping sickness. That

> > was in northern Illinois in 1958 or '59. Know

> > anything about a

> > sleeping sickness outbreak then? I never heard of

> > anyone else in the

> > U.S. getting that disease.

> >

> > Jane

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Ah...now I know what was confusing me...been a couple of years, excuse

my stunted brain tonight...While I had learned the term " sleeping

sickness " in regards to the 1918 flu...well, let me just type out what

the book (Science of Viruses) says..

" In 1918 a novel influenza virus collided with humankind in a killing

spree. Half the people of the world were affected, and 22 million

died. Many of those who seemed to have recovered from the several

waves of flu succombed to encephalitis lethargica [sounds like what I'm

feeling like now ...ed.], named by Constantine von Economo and

commonly called sleeping sickness.....It came, killed and disabled

millions, and then disappeared. But while this widespread horror

hasn't come again, outbreaks of similar localized encephalitis

lethargica had been noted for hundreds of years. "

The term " sleeping sickness " was stuck in my head regarding the flu due

to connection...and the details of what the flu does to the heart still

stands. I just got the name wrong! (still embarrassing nonetheless ;(

)

a

> No, not narcolepsy. I know what that is, in fact I was going to ask

> others here something in regards to it sometime as I've had

> narcoleptic-like episodes, especially between 14 and 19 when they hit

> me everyday. Might as well do so now come to think...

>

> I've heard of those on the autistic spectrum having epileptic

> " episodes " at certain junctures in their life, not continuous, but

> sporadic or only during a certain time period, then they disappear.

> Has anyone heard of connections between autism and narcoleptic (or

> narcoleptic-like) seizures in the same way? I don't mean being a

> lifelong epileptic or narcoleptic. Forgive me my question isn't

> clear, I'm having a real hard time thinking right now.

>

> As to Sleeping Sickness...I also learned about the 1918 flu under this

> name in grade 6. It's apparently not a very well known term for it

> nowadays (?). The book I mentioned earlier (Science of Viruses) also

> refers to it as the sleeping sickness.

>

> a

>

>

>> I haven't heard of it either, I have heard of limited

>> cases in the US of people going to sleep for a really

>> long time and then waking up years later, and I have

>> to wonder oif she wasn't talking about narcolpsy.

>> Serena

>>

>> --- Jane Meyerding wrote:

>>

>> > a wrote:

>> > >It's interesting how many of us are into

>> > viruses...I haven't read any

>> > >recent books on viruses and disease, but one of my

>> > favorites in my

>> > >collection is The Science of Viruses by Ann Giudici

>> > Fettner.  The

>> > >section on the Sleeping Sickness (last big flu

>> > pandemic) was

>> > >fascinating.

>> >

>> > When I was in 3rd or 4th grade, we were told that

>> > one of our

>> > classmates was out of school because she had

>> > sleeping sickness. That

>> > was in northern Illinois in 1958 or '59. Know

>> > anything about a

>> > sleeping sickness outbreak then? I never heard of

>> > anyone else in the

>> > U.S. getting that disease.

>> >

>> > Jane

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

a wrote:

>I've heard of those on the autistic spectrum having epileptic

> " episodes " at certain junctures in their life, not continuous, but

>sporadic or only during a certain time period, then they disappear.

>Has anyone heard of connections between autism and narcoleptic (or

>narcoleptic-like) seizures in the same way?

When I was a young teen, I had episodes of falling out of

consciousness occasionally. I would be doing something (or nothing),

and the next thing I knew I'd be picking myself up off the floor.

Hasn't happened recently (for which I am thankful, given how much

more painful and long-lasting the consequences of falling are for

someone my age).

Jane

[Guest guest]

> a wrote:

> >I've heard of those on the autistic spectrum having epileptic

> > " episodes " at certain junctures in their life, not continuous, but

> >sporadic or only during a certain time period, then they disappear.

> >Has anyone heard of connections between autism and narcoleptic (or

> >narcoleptic-like) seizures in the same way?

>

> When I was a young teen, I had episodes of falling out of

> consciousness occasionally. I would be doing something (or nothing),

> and the next thing I knew I'd be picking myself up off the floor.

> Hasn't happened recently (for which I am thankful, given how much

> more painful and long-lasting the consequences of falling are for

> someone my age).

>

> Jane

I wonder if it has something to do with all the stresses that come with

adolescence on top of autism. And I've been remembering that time in

my teens more lately as I've been having trouble staying awake again

(particularly when I really NEED to be awake). Not to the same degree,

and it's probably stress doing it, but this is the first time in a long

while that I've felt this way.

In my teens, I mostly just couldn't stay awake no matter how hard I

tried. I would fall asleep in school so often the teachers just let me

be. I remember a substitute math teacher asking the class, " does she

always do this? " and in unison they'd say " yesssss " ....Very

overwhelming waves would hit me, and I'd be out like in no time, but

always hearing what was being said around me (while also dreaming). I

missed my bus stop quite frequently. The worst was when I'd be

standing up (such as in church) and just pass out, hitting the pew with

a resounding thud.

No, it's definitely not something I'd want to experience now

especially. I've shattered bones before and that's not much fun at

all...but on the bright side I did gain a lot more left hand dexterity

after I obliterated the bones in my right wrist! (which is now

functioning pretty much the same, except for the added bonus of

arthritis...this I am fine with, as I didn't expect my hand to heal as

well as it did.)

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[Guest guest]

> I do notice no one has said I wasn't nuts.

I don't believe you're nut.

Alain

[Guest guest]

> No, not narcolepsy. I know what that is, in fact I was going to ask

> others here something in regards to it sometime as I've had

> narcoleptic-like episodes, especially between 14 and 19 when they hit

> me everyday. Might as well do so now come to think...

I once fixed a tooth ache with demerol and i experienced with a bunch of

narcoleptics (percodent and percocet spring up to mind, there is surely

some other but they don't spring to mind), didn't sleep after taking the

demerol but once the dentist took out the teeth, it took one of my

brother as well as my father to bring me back to the car, i slept for 2

days, woke up for 3 or 4 hours and then slept for one more day.

Alain