Rosemarie

[Guest guest]

I am not Andy (thank god)

Let me had my 2 shekels of worth

For me Andy tells stories that are 100% theoretical for me

When I have the thought that I want to understand him, I feel stress, cause

I don't.

When I have the thought that Andy knows something I don't know

And that Andy is more evolved than me by knowing whatever that may be

I feel stress again

So, I don't read his mails (hey, I am T - I do what is right for me)

And about your daughter

You felt bad cause IN THE MOMENT, you had the thought

that you are your daughter would be better (at the moment!) if you met her

Personally I think that being with , is better than being with your

daughter

So I don't see the problem, but I was just teasing you

So, be gentle to yourself

And don't try to understand Andy

Love, T

-- Re: Andy

Andy, I really like all your highly interesting comments and

compilations on your favourite topics like " we are not the doer " ,

" there is no past and no future " , etc. - or, let´s say, I used to

like them - and, anyhow, I still haven´t got the slightest motive to

doubt what you say -

however it´s getting too much theoretical for me.

I miss the appropriate examples taken from our everyday life.

There is one example from my experience:

When I was in Berlin I met there and then I missed my

daughter who I had promised to pick her up in time and drive her

to the station.

I was down, because I had really wished to meet her and do as I

had promised.

At the same time I *remebered " that things like that had been

happening to me years before, again and again.

I said to " Why does this happen to me again and again? "

and he said " Because you remember! "

Well, and you say There is no such thing as a past and a future.

The only moment that exists is the present moment.

O.k. let´s say that´s right - and it is, I do have no objection to

this, of course!

But let me see: I remember events in the past and these are

mere thought constructions (as you say).

But why do those *remembered* events play still a part in my life

today? They obviously DO have something to do with my present

life.

The events of past times (which actually do not exist) have got

some power over me, I feel that and that is quite REAL for me.

I feel that I´m still suffering from these experiences long time

ago, and I don´t have the feeling they didn´t exist!

I missed my daughter at some occasions when she was still

small, I also didn´t keep some promises I´d made to her.

This happened in the past which has never existed and doesn´t

exist at all but it is actually affecting what happens to me now.

If it had not existed how can I remember?

I think this is also related to what Roslyn was talking about

latetly. Isn´t it, Roslyn?

We have to meet the same or similar challenges again and agin

until we finally do no longer believe maybe some underlying

thought - as in my case would probably be " I am not a good

mother " or " I really should be more proper in organizing my

schedule " and so on.

So, please let´s talk about those significant topics (also) in a way

that I can apply to my REAL experiences which actually exist in

the presen!.

The mere statement " there is no and has never been anything

like past and future " etc. really doesn´t help me at all.

Thanks.

Love, Rosemarie

>

> OK let me rephrase that my energy was not completly in the

now

> moment..

>

>

> *****Sweetheart: there is ONLY a " now moment. " NOW is the

only time

> anything happens. Everything else is a thought construction.

>

>

> Colin writes about having energy in the past and in teh

> future..

>

>

> *****There is NO past or future. Except in thought. Past and

future

> are just....not....real.

>

>

> if you are keeping emotions in check from the past and not

> expressing them and letting them go.. you are taking energy

from teh

> now.. or if you are worried about something in the future.. that

is

> also taking away energy. from the now moment..

>

>

> *****Certainly this can happen. But you are not doing it.

>

>

> does it feel good to be critical no..

> I would of created it differently thats true.. but our world reflects

> our inner beliefs -isnt that also true? or what we need to

experience

> to learn .

>

>

> *****The world doesn't " reflect " beliefs: the world, as

experienced

> (and that is all the world is), IS a compendium of the beliefs

> instilled. If it is believed, it is experienced (as the world). We

> see people and things not as they are, but as we are, because

there

> are no people and things, there are only our thoughts which

say " here

> are people and things. "

>

>

> And I think it is harder for a person to forgive themselves than

to

> forgive others..

>

>

> *****It is neither hard, nor easy. Forgiveness either happens or

it

> doesn't. It's not something that can be forced. It happens

when it

> is seen that there is no one to forgive, and no one to do the

> forgiving.

>