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Becky asks:

<< Are any of you familiar with Dr. J. D'Adamo's book, Eat Right for

Your Type? ... >>

Hi Becky. We did a survey in a huge low-carb diabetes ListServ group and

decided his theory was crap. Most of us were type O's.

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Vicki...Me too.. But T1.5 but Type...with a type A hubby with no dm! Toni

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> Well, Becky, that's a new one on me. I'm a " smoldering type 1 " and I'm blood

> type O. So guess that puts a dent in that theory! Vicki

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There were about 2000 of us in this diabetes/low-carb group, and our blood

types fell right along " normal " lines. None of us could detect any pattern

of blood type being related to diabetes.

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I am O type 2 diabetic married to an O non diabetic and have 3 kids with O

and we have to watch 2 of them for bg .

Stormy

D'Adamo's book/blood types

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>Are any of you familiar with Dr. J. D'Adamo's book, Eat Right for

>Your Type (published by G.P. Putnam's Sons, ISBN 0-399-14255-X)? He

>explains how the 4 different blood types require different types of

>food. He mentions that blood type A's are susceptible to diabetes (as

>well as a few other ailments). He recommends particular foods to eat and

>to avoid for each group. Since I am an A, who has both type II diabetes

>and an immune system disorder (fibromyalgia), I found some of his

>information really pertinent to me.

>

>I'm curious, how many type A's do we have on the list? How many B's (who

>are susceptible to type I diabetes)? How many AB's (who share some

>characteristics with both A's and B's)? I'm guessing we have only a

>small number of O's, who are probably the least likely to be diabetic?

>

>Since many of you tout the benefits of eating/avoiding certain foods, I

>wonder if blood type isn't indeed a factor as to why some foods work so

>well for some of you yet harm others.. D'Adamo mentions that Type 0's do

>well with high protein, but the Type A's need low protein. Thus, O's can

>benefit from red meat in their diets; A's should be primarily

>vegetarians.

>

>Becky (an A married to a non-diabetic O)

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Hi, Tehanne, my diabetes educator's definition of " smoldering type I " as

related to me: I'm thin, 61 years old, have exercised regularly for years and

also eaten low-fat for many yeras, no diabetes in family, rather sudden onset

of diabetes (within six-month period), need for insulin but very low doses --

I'm doing carb matching and so far have gotten by on less than 10 units a day.

I also have been hypothyroid for over 30 years and was diagnosed with

Sjogren's syndrome (autoimmune and/or endocrine conditions). So even though

I was diagnosed at age 60, nothing in profile matches typical type II so I

guess that's why she called it " smoldering " . Vicki

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I'm type O+ and Type 2

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>

>I am an O!

>

>Tehanne

>

>

>----Original Message Follows----

>

>

>

>

>Are any of you familiar with Dr. J. D'Adamo's book, Eat Right for

>Your Type (published by G.P. Putnam's Sons, ISBN 0-399-14255-X)? He

>explains how the 4 different blood types require different types of

>food. He mentions that blood type A's are susceptible to diabetes (as

>well as a few other ailments). He recommends particular foods to eat and

>to avoid for each group. Since I am an A, who has both type II diabetes

>and an immune system disorder (fibromyalgia), I found some of his

>information really pertinent to me.

>

>I'm curious, how many type A's do we have on the list? How many B's (who

>are susceptible to type I diabetes)? How many AB's (who share some

>characteristics with both A's and B's)? I'm guessing we have only a

>small number of O's, who are probably the least likely to be diabetic?

>

>Since many of you tout the benefits of eating/avoiding certain foods, I

>wonder if blood type isn't indeed a factor as to why some foods work so

>well for some of you yet harm others.. D'Adamo mentions that Type 0's do

>well with high protein, but the Type A's need low protein. Thus, O's can

>benefit from red meat in their diets; A's should be primarily

>vegetarians.

>

>Becky (an A married to a non-diabetic O)

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I am an O!

Tehanne

----Original Message Follows----

Are any of you familiar with Dr. J. D'Adamo's book, Eat Right for

Your Type (published by G.P. Putnam's Sons, ISBN 0-399-14255-X)? He

explains how the 4 different blood types require different types of

food. He mentions that blood type A's are susceptible to diabetes (as

well as a few other ailments). He recommends particular foods to eat and

to avoid for each group. Since I am an A, who has both type II diabetes

and an immune system disorder (fibromyalgia), I found some of his

information really pertinent to me.

I'm curious, how many type A's do we have on the list? How many B's (who

are susceptible to type I diabetes)? How many AB's (who share some

characteristics with both A's and B's)? I'm guessing we have only a

small number of O's, who are probably the least likely to be diabetic?

Since many of you tout the benefits of eating/avoiding certain foods, I

wonder if blood type isn't indeed a factor as to why some foods work so

well for some of you yet harm others.. D'Adamo mentions that Type 0's do

well with high protein, but the Type A's need low protein. Thus, O's can

benefit from red meat in their diets; A's should be primarily

vegetarians.

Becky (an A married to a non-diabetic O)

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At 05:01 PM 3/14/99 -0600, Bill Eastman wrote:

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>I'm type O+ and Type 2

>

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>>

>>

>>I am an O!

>>

>>Tehanne

I am type A with type 1 diabetes, but late onset.

JOhn

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Vicki...forgive my ignorance....i must have missed the post..but what is

a " smouldering type I " ??

Tehanne

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From: WHIMSY2@...

Well, Becky, that's a new one on me. I'm a " smoldering type 1 " and I'm

blood

type O. So guess that puts a dent in that theory! Vicki

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Vicki..thank you for the explanation. Now i understand what you mean! I

am probably what you would call a 1.5 hehee.

Tehanne

----Original Message Follows----

From: WHIMSY2@...

Hi, Tehanne, my diabetes educator's definition of " smoldering type I " as

related to me: I'm thin, 61 years old, have exercised regularly for

years and also eaten low-fat for many yeras, no diabetes in family,

rather sudden onset of diabetes (within six-month period), need for

insulin but very low doses -- I'm doing carb matching and so far have

gotten by on less than 10 units a day.

I also have been hypothyroid for over 30 years and was diagnosed with

Sjogren's syndrome (autoimmune and/or endocrine conditions). So even

though I was diagnosed at age 60, nothing in profile matches typical

type II so I guess that's why she called it " smoldering " . Vicki

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Hi All,

I am a type O+......

Margie

>

>

> Are any of you familiar with Dr. J. D'Adamo's book, Eat Right for

> Your Type (published by G.P. Putnam's Sons, ISBN 0-399-14255-X)? He

> explains how the 4 different blood types require different types of

> food. He mentions that blood type A's are susceptible to diabetes (as

> well as a few other ailments). He recommends particular foods to eat and

> to avoid for each group. Since I am an A, who has both type II diabetes

> and an immune system disorder (fibromyalgia), I found some of his

> information really pertinent to me.

>

> I'm curious, how many type A's do we have on the list? How many B's (who

> are susceptible to type I diabetes)? How many AB's (who share some

> characteristics with both A's and B's)? I'm guessing we have only a

> small number of O's, who are probably the least likely to be diabetic?

>

> Since many of you tout the benefits of eating/avoiding certain foods, I

> wonder if blood type isn't indeed a factor as to why some foods work so

> well for some of you yet harm others.. D'Adamo mentions that Type 0's do

> well with high protein, but the Type A's need low protein. Thus, O's can

> benefit from red meat in their diets; A's should be primarily

> vegetarians.

>

> Becky (an A married to a non-diabetic O)

>

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Papa wrote:

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> At 11:11 PM 3/17/99 -03-30, you wrote:

> >

> >I'm a type II insulin dependent. I am also trying to follow Dr. Berstein's

> >plan of

> >6-12-12. I don't know if anyone is following this plan, but I find it

> >difficult

> >to do. Today I have found myself get very frustated. For the first time in a

> >long

> >time I was craving something sweet like a bar or an ice cream. I haven't

> had a

> >bar since I was diagnosed in June of last year. Do anyone else find that

> >they get

> >frustrated over food?

>

> I too am a Type 2 (6 years now) and this is the reason I don't ascribe to a

> set, rigid diet all the time. I figured that once in a while I want a

> pizza slice (not the whole thing like before) or ice cream (I buy the small

> pint serving). I usually go off no more that once a week, usually Sat or

> Sun night. I made the decision, with the doctor's knowledge, that I didn't

> want to live 30 years with diabetes and be sitting on my porch complaining

> about all the things I didn't eat. A little indulgence now and then isn't

> going to send you into a tailspin but it makes going back onto the stricter

> diet more tolerable.

I think that's one of the keys to proper maintenance.. If we don't

indulge once in a while it all becomes a real drudge, and people might

tend to give up. One thing I do is when I do the weekly grocery

shopping, I get the juiciest, sugar laden danish, or jelly doughnut that

I can find, and obsess myself to death. Think it's gonna kill me? Nope!

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Hi, Gail.

I have been following Bernstein's diet for three months. Actually I have

less carbs than the 6-12-12 most of the time. The only time I go a little

high is when I eat out. Then I usually have a steak and beans. So far, I

don't crave for anything. I am hungry in the mornings, though. Just

hungry. I live on about 1400 calories so I guess I can expect to be hungry

a little. But, all in all, it works well for me. I am over weight, Type II

NIDDM. In the three months on his diet I have lost about 40 lbs. My

numbers are great (90 mg/dl pp) on average. Even my doctor is impressed.

Winston

Re: D'Adamo's book/blood types

>

>

>Hi

>

>I'm a type II insulin dependent. I am also trying to follow Dr. Berstein's

plan of

>6-12-12. I don't know if anyone is following this plan, but I find it

difficult

>to do. Today I have found myself get very frustated. For the first time in

a long

>time I was craving something sweet like a bar or an ice cream. I haven't

had a

>bar since I was diagnosed in June of last year. Do anyone else find that

they get

>frustrated over food?

>

>(frustated & depressed)

>Gail

>

>Wlknshoes@... wrote:

>

>> From: Wlknshoes@...

>>

>> Hi all,

>> I am behind on my mail and just read the letter about blood type and

foods and

>> diabetes. I am a type II diabetic (blood type O+) Yes, it runs in my

>> family, I am the second daughter to get it. My Mother and Grandmother

were

>> also typeII. I try to follow Dr. Bernstein's plan of 6-12-12, some days

I

>> have a few more carbs but not many. My blood sugar readings are within

normal

>> limits and I have no problems with my diet (feeling deprived).

>> Just wanted to respond.

>> Spillman

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Hi Dave.

Danish pastry:

No, it will hopefully not kill you, so you may enjoy it, I guess.

But bear in mind that its somewhat like a glucose-tolerance-test

to your Pancreas, so you are stressing your relative insufficient

endogene insulin production!

By the way, I've allways wondered, why its called " Danish Pastry " .

In Germany / Austria its called " Kopenhagener Gebaeck " ~

" Copenhagener Pastry " .

We Danes call it " Wienerbroed " ~ " Vienna-bread " , don't we .

Oluf, Dane, DM-Type-1 living in Germany

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At 09:08 AM 3/18/99 -0500, you wrote:

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>I think that's one of the keys to proper maintenance.. If we don't

>indulge once in a while it all becomes a real drudge, and people might

>tend to give up. One thing I do is when I do the weekly grocery

>shopping, I get the juiciest, sugar laden danish, or jelly doughnut that

>I can find, and obsess myself to death. Think it's gonna kill me? Nope!

I have very few problems during the week. Most of us are on a set

schedule; wake up time, work, etc.. Its the weekend where I have the most

problems. That's why one of the meals is a variation, not a binge but a

meal that is not in, well...complete conformance. I usually compensate by

an extra 30 min walk or so (I usually walk in the am).

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Hi Winston,

Thanks for your response. I don't how you manage to follow the plan 6-12-12.

Maybe you can tell me what some of the foods are that you eat. I need to lose

about 25lbs.

Winston wrote:

>

>

> Hi, Gail.

>

> I have been following Bernstein's diet for three months. Actually I have

> less carbs than the 6-12-12 most of the time. The only time I go a little

> high is when I eat out. Then I usually have a steak and beans. So far, I

> don't crave for anything. I am hungry in the mornings, though. Just

> hungry. I live on about 1400 calories so I guess I can expect to be hungry

> a little. But, all in all, it works well for me. I am over weight, Type II

> NIDDM. In the three months on his diet I have lost about 40 lbs. My

> numbers are great (90 mg/dl pp) on average. Even my doctor is impressed.

>

> Winston

>

> Re: D'Adamo's book/blood types

>

> >

> >

> >Hi

> >

> >I'm a type II insulin dependent. I am also trying to follow Dr. Berstein's

> plan of

> >6-12-12. I don't know if anyone is following this plan, but I find it

> difficult

> >to do. Today I have found myself get very frustated. For the first time in

> a long

> >time I was craving something sweet like a bar or an ice cream. I haven't

> had a

> >bar since I was diagnosed in June of last year. Do anyone else find that

> they get

> >frustrated over food?

> >

> >(frustated & depressed)

> >Gail

> >

> >Wlknshoes@... wrote:

> >

> >> From: Wlknshoes@...

> >>

> >> Hi all,

> >> I am behind on my mail and just read the letter about blood type and

> foods and

> >> diabetes. I am a type II diabetic (blood type O+) Yes, it runs in my

> >> family, I am the second daughter to get it. My Mother and Grandmother

> were

> >> also typeII. I try to follow Dr. Bernstein's plan of 6-12-12, some days

> I

> >> have a few more carbs but not many. My blood sugar readings are within

> normal

> >> limits and I have no problems with my diet (feeling deprived).

> >> Just wanted to respond.

> >> Spillman

> >>

> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Oh yes, Dave, I do. But what I've seen of Danish Pastry outside Denmark,

including the USA, is n-o-t the titbit, as sweet and as greasy as the original

stuff, you get in Denmark!

One of my Danish cousins is both a learned cook and confectioner. Once he

was chef on the Custeau-expeditions to the Antarctis. He baked the real stuff.

The Australien members fo these expeditions used to " steal " a whole bar of it,

still warm , and a coke to go with it. They loved it. Guess they needed a lot

of

carbs and calories down there.

Oluf

>Dave wrote:

>Actually, I'll bet it has no resemblence to what you might think it is..

>:) It's generally a sugar-glazed flat pastry, with either cherry, lemon,

>rasberry filling placed in the middle with sugar frosting over that.

>Real good!

>--

>Dave -- March 18, 1999

>t2 08/98 Glucophage

>

>A closed mind gathers no intelligence

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Gail writes:

<< I'm a type II insulin dependent. I am also trying to follow Dr.

Berstein's plan of 6-12-12. I don't know if anyone is following this plan,

but I find it difficultto do. Today I have found myself get very frustated.

For the first time in a longtime I was craving something sweet like a bar or

an ice cream. I haven't had a bar since I was diagnosed in June of last

year. Do anyone else find that they getfrustrated over food? >>

Gail, I could not stick literally to Dr. Bernstein's plan either. But

nevertheless, I appreciate the half century of insight he has gained by

intensive study of this disease, and his helpful suggestions. What I do is

read read read ... Dr. B, as well as several other authors ... and put

together My Own Plan. It still seems to be working for me. Dr. Bernstein's

recommendations are just plain too Spartan for many of us ... we need more

flexibility ... more carbohydrates than he allows. But he is full of good

ideas. His books are always excellent resources for us. But I find that in

order to stick with this day in and day out, I need a carbohydrate level

that is closer to 100 grams daily.

Susie

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Papa writes:

<< I too am a Type 2 (6 years now) and this is the reason I don't ascribe to

a set, rigid diet all the time. I figured that once in a while I want a

pizza slice (not the whole thing like before) or ice cream (I buy the small

pint serving). I usually go off no more that once a week, usually Sat or

Sun night. I made the decision, with the doctor's knowledge, that I didn't

want to live 30 years with diabetes and be sitting on my porch complaining

about all the things I didn't eat. A little indulgence now and then isn't

going to send you into a tailspin but it makes going back onto the stricter

diet more tolerable. >>

My sentiments too, Papa! We need to find that balance that permits us to

stick with our program for the Rest of Our Lives (because, like weight loss

or exercise or anything else, a short-term fix won't do the job). And for

many of us, that means the occasional excursion into Carbo-Land.

Susie

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Norgaard writes:

<< ... By the way, there is some on-line stores that sell Danish

specialities worldwide, from websites here in Denmark. Should any be

interested, then do not hesitate to contact me and I shall see if I can find

some of them on the Danish search engines. >>

Immediately I heard a song in my head: " You're the Devil in Disguise " ...

hahahahaha

Susie

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