Re: Gun stuff

[Guest guest]

Klein wrote:

> We don't have to slant anything; we have facts on our side. Lott

> wasn't pro-gun before he started his research-- he expected to prove

> that gun control works. His work shows that allowing people to carry

> concealed guns reduces violent crime. Even the Clinton Administration's

> research failed to show that any of Clinton's gun control measures

> reduced crime in any way.

>

It would appear that you can't tell the difference between the people

murdered using guns and the total amount of people killed by guns. There

is a big difference.

You remind me of the song " That's My Story " . Wife asks husband where he

has been. He says he fell asleep in the hammock in the yard. She tells

him she put the hammock in the attic some time ago. He says that's my

story and I'm sticking to it.

Red

[Guest guest]

redhottech@... wrote:

> Klein wrote:

>

> > We don't have to slant anything; we have facts on our side.

> > Lott wasn't pro-gun before he started his research-- he expected to

> > prove that gun control works. His work shows that allowing people

> > to carry concealed guns reduces violent crime. Even the Clinton

> > Administration's research failed to show that any of Clinton's gun

> > control measures reduced crime in any way.

> >

>

> It would appear that you can't tell the difference between the people

> murdered using guns and the total amount of people killed by guns.

> There is a big difference.

Yeah-- murders is what we were talking about. " Total people killed with

guns " is a useless statistic. Most of those are suicides, and you would

have to be _very_ delusional to think that the people that used guns to

kill themselves would not have killed themselves if a gun were not

handy. As Parrish pointed out, Japan has a higher rate of suicide than

the US, and virtually none of those are done with guns.

This just goes to show how far the anti-gun people like you have to

stretch to make statistics that make it seem like guns are the cause.

Guns are the reason that hateful people kill each other; guns are the

reason that depressed people kill themselves. It's very irrational to

blame the tool for what people do.

> You remind me of the song " That's My Story " . Wife asks husband where

> he has been. He says he fell asleep in the hammock in the yard. She

> tells him she put the hammock in the attic some time ago. He says

> that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

I'm not surprised that debating someone that sticks to the facts has

this effect upon you.

[Guest guest]

Hi I'm new here and was just reading the thread on gun control. I

really don't have an opinion but knowledge of guns seems to be one of

my AS obsessions. I seem to know an awful lot about them, especially

the weapons of WWII. I always wanted a 1903 Springfield firing

the .30-06. Whenever I watch a movie about WWII, I always pay close

attention to the guns. I say to myself " that's a British SMLE, or a

German Strumgewehr " . I even know about the more obscure guns made by

and Reising.