Guest guest Posted October 10, 2006 Report Posted October 10, 2006 , Excellent work with the juicer! That sounds like a positive (and delicious step). I've been feeling a little depressed lately for non-KO reasons and have enrolled myself in a pottery class and am FORCING myself to go. By the time I get done playing with clay for 2 hours, I always feel better--I think I'm just so engrossed that it's theraputic for me(I'm not especially good at it or anything and I don't care). I've had similar results taking dancing classes or joining a chorale--whatever. I think it's just going outside of what I usually do. As for reading--I've got to recommend Full Catastrophe Living. Which is more of a stress reduction/meditation route, but that helped me tremendously. Ah. . .and the Tetons--I have also spent time trekking through there and I sometimes use places I've been, where I felt a great deal of peace and independance in my visualizations. I think you once told me about a visualization that you use. I have one where I visualize myself arriving at a saddle between two peaks in the Tetons where I know I'll be camping for the night. I've been walking all day, my pack is extremely heavy, but now it's time to rest. I drop the pack and put all the hard work of the day behind me. . .I've got nothing else to think about but settling down for the night. All my troubles are behind me. . .far away. Anyway, it works for me. Trish > > No contact has been the greatest journey so far in my 26 years, > greater than hiking through the Grand Teton's or discovering love. It > has been a ride into a 4th dimension. I'm starting to feel for the > first time. There is huge price for that though, my first few weeks I > felt like Bart Simpson when he sold his soul to Millhouse for $50.00. > This was the loneliest time in my life! Do any of you know of > publishing's that helps one get through these bouts of depression? I > don't want to take medication since it's only temporary. I'm trying to > keep myself busy but I find that motivation is a hard thing to find. I > bought a juicer and decided to eat healthy and exercise. > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Posted October 12, 2006 " Way to breath, No-Breath. " (Sorry, I couldn't resist the Simpson's Quote...) You're not without your soul, you're without that weight on your shoulders... but I definitely understand the feeling of " missing something. " I think Trish was on the right track with the pottery; try to find yourself a hobby that you can immerse yourself in. Maybe a hobby you didn't have time or support for before. I always find that when I sit down to draw or paint or write, it's motivating in itself. I want to finish the sketch, landscape, or poem, and finishing one gives me the inspiration to start another. Perhaps you have a digital camera & could take a picture-a-day. Perhaps there are books you'd like to read. Perhaps you'd like to volunteer your time somewhere. I can't say I know of any particular books on motivation, but I find that for myself starting a project that I truly enjoy, and will take a bit of time, is motivation in-itself. And here's some advice on motivation from the web: http://www.motivation-tools.com/elements/seven_rules.htm http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2006/07/motivation-for-smart-people-sans-chest-\ pounding/ http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/07/overcoming-negative-emotions-and-boosti\ ng-motivation/ I'm sure there are many others online, I'd also recommend searching other ppl's bookmarks at del.icio.us for sites on that (or any other) topic. http://del.icio.us/search/?fr=del_icio_us & p=motivation & type=all I hope some of that helps! When all else fails, I think " Trust in yourself and you can achieve anything! " - Lionheart > > No contact has been the greatest journey so far in my 26 years, > greater than hiking through the Grand Teton's or discovering love. It > has been a ride into a 4th dimension. I'm starting to feel for the > first time. There is huge price for that though, my first few weeks I > felt like Bart Simpson when he sold his soul to Millhouse for $50.00. > This was the loneliest time in my life! Do any of you know of > publishing's that helps one get through these bouts of depression? I > don't want to take medication since it's only temporary. I'm trying to > keep myself busy but I find that motivation is a hard thing to find. I > bought a juicer and decided to eat healthy and exercise. > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Posted October 12, 2006 , I recently heard a great sermon on suffering the the buddhist concept around it. I think BP and nonBP's are very intimate with the idea of suffering! The buddhist's believe that they way to escape suffering is to observe it. To get into a mental state and say to yourself " wow, this is interesting, look at that emotion pop up. " I think depression is a lot like that. When I've been through periods of great sadness or pain the only way through it IS " through " it. To acknowledge without either avoiding it or attaching to it. Hard to do, easy to say. I do like everyone's idea to keep busy and I have used those times too to improve or have fun in a different area of my life: getting fit while unemployed, etc. You have my support, a > > No contact has been the greatest journey so far in my 26 years, > greater than hiking through the Grand Teton's or discovering love. It > has been a ride into a 4th dimension. I'm starting to feel for the > first time. There is huge price for that though, my first few weeks I > felt like Bart Simpson when he sold his soul to Millhouse for $50.00. > This was the loneliest time in my life! Do any of you know of > publishing's that helps one get through these bouts of depression? I > don't want to take medication since it's only temporary. I'm trying to > keep myself busy but I find that motivation is a hard thing to find. I > bought a juicer and decided to eat healthy and exercise. > Quote
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Posted October 12, 2006 I went N/C three months ago and I went through the " finding " myself phase. I was very depressed and still experience some days when I wonder what the heck I'm doing. It is very reassuring that I'm not alone. In response, I actually applied to college, took up violin and have considered moving out of state into a new job !! I feel unstuck for the first time in my life. Freedom of choice, how exhilerating !! KW > >Reply-To: WTOAdultChildren1 >To: WTOAdultChildren1 >Subject: Re: NC Literature >Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:14:12 -0000 > > " Way to breath, No-Breath. " (Sorry, I couldn't resist the Simpson's >Quote...) You're not without your soul, you're without that weight on >your shoulders... but I definitely understand the feeling of " missing >something. " > >I think Trish was on the right track with the pottery; try to find >yourself a hobby that you can immerse yourself in. Maybe a hobby you >didn't have time or support for before. I always find that when I sit >down to draw or paint or write, it's motivating in itself. I want to >finish the sketch, landscape, or poem, and finishing one gives me the >inspiration to start another. Perhaps you have a digital camera & >could take a picture-a-day. Perhaps there are books you'd like to >read. Perhaps you'd like to volunteer your time somewhere. > >I can't say I know of any particular books on motivation, but I find >that for myself starting a project that I truly enjoy, and will take a >bit of time, is motivation in-itself. > >And here's some advice on motivation from the web: > >http://www.motivation-tools.com/elements/seven_rules.htm > >http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2006/07/motivation-for-smart-people-sans-chest\ -pounding/ >http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/07/overcoming-negative-emotions-and-boost\ ing-motivation/ > >I'm sure there are many others online, I'd also recommend searching >other ppl's bookmarks at del.icio.us for sites on that (or any other) >topic. http://del.icio.us/search/?fr=del_icio_us & p=motivation & type=all > >I hope some of that helps! When all else fails, I think " Trust in >yourself and you can achieve anything! " - Lionheart > > > > > > > > > > > No contact has been the greatest journey so far in my 26 years, > > greater than hiking through the Grand Teton's or discovering love. It > > has been a ride into a 4th dimension. I'm starting to feel for the > > first time. There is huge price for that though, my first few weeks I > > felt like Bart Simpson when he sold his soul to Millhouse for $50.00. > > This was the loneliest time in my life! Do any of you know of > > publishing's that helps one get through these bouts of depression? I > > don't want to take medication since it's only temporary. I'm trying to > > keep myself busy but I find that motivation is a hard thing to find. I > > bought a juicer and decided to eat healthy and exercise. > > > > > > > > >Problems? Ask our friendly List Manager for help at >@.... SEND HER ANY POSTS THAT CONCERN YOU; DO NOT Respond ON >THE GROUP. > >To order the KO bible " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " call 888-35-SHELL >() for your copy. We also refer to “Understanding the >Borderline Mother” (Lawson) and “Surviving the Borderline Parent,” (Roth) >which you can find at any bookstore. Welcome to the WTO community! > >From Randi Kreger, Owner BPDCentral, WTO Online Community and author SWOE >and the SWOE Workbook. > Quote
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