Re: 4 week build up?

[Guest guest]

You don't say what symptoms you are experiancing, but from what you

describe I think I can help.

Because of the amount of pred and HC you're taking, your adrenals

aren't entering into it. Is likely because you took to long to reach

1 grain (should have been at 1 grain at two weeks). 2 weeks between

increases (1/2 grain increments should work if adrenals are fine or

cortisol fully replaced) until you get to 2 1/2 grain (stay at 2 1/2

grains for 6 weeks, then raise by 1/4 grain every 6 weeks) is what is

recommended.

If you are experiancing hyperlike symptoms (if cortisol at a good

level in natural or HC, you shouldn't be going hyper on that low dose

Armour), then I think you need to try replacing the 10 mg HC with 2

1/2 mg pred (you might post your cortisol tests for me to see).

Hope this was helpful.

Chris

>

> Can someone why I get adrenal symptoms four weeks to the day of

> starting Armour? I started on 1/2 grain, and built my way up to 1 grain

> in that time, as per normal practice. I take 5mg Pred and 10mg HC - so

> it's not as if my adrenals aren't supported to the hilt. I am thinking

> my adrenals are super sensitive, and I am going to have to go slower -

> maybe 1/4 grain every 3-4 weeks?

>

> Nicola

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Chris

OK - my symptoms last night were adrenalin surges, fast heart beat

and a weird sort of flickering in the adrenal area. From past

experience I know this feeling to be adrenal related. I have had

problems previously when getting to 1 1/4 grains, and had to stop and

start again. The thing that may have caused problems was that in the

last few days I switched from Armour to Thyroid S, which I gather is

slightly stronger. Also had a fair amount of stress in the past week

as my son had an emergency appendectomy. All this coming at the same

time as the 4 week mark (is this when the T4 levels build up?) made

me think adrenals.

I will drop back by 1/4 grain on the dose today and will go back to

Armour, but I need to be at least 1 grain to get rid of the nocturnal

hypoglycemia, which drives me crazy. I think I have very weak

adrenals.

Don't actually have any accurate cortisol results, apart from a serum

8am reading of 16.7 (range of 6.7 - 22.6), which from reading

previous posts I know is low. All the other results are skewed as

I'd already started on Isocort in order to function. I was

prescribed the pred / HC by my endo on symptoms alone. I hate taking

them, and want to get off them as soon as possible. I know, dream on.

Nicola

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wrote:

>

> You don't say what symptoms you are experiancing, but from what you

> describe I think I can help.

>

> Because of the amount of pred and HC you're taking, your adrenals

> aren't entering into it. Is likely because you took to long to

reach

> 1 grain (should have been at 1 grain at two weeks). 2 weeks

between

> increases (1/2 grain increments should work if adrenals are fine or

> cortisol fully replaced) until you get to 2 1/2 grain (stay at 2 1/2

> grains for 6 weeks, then raise by 1/4 grain every 6 weeks) is what

is

> recommended.

>

> If you are experiancing hyperlike symptoms (if cortisol at a good

> level in natural or HC, you shouldn't be going hyper on that low

dose

> Armour), then I think you need to try replacing the 10 mg HC with 2

> 1/2 mg pred (you might post your cortisol tests for me to see).

>

> Hope this was helpful.

> Chris

>

>

> >

> > Can someone why I get adrenal symptoms four weeks to the day of

> > starting Armour? I started on 1/2 grain, and built my way up to 1

grain

> > in that time, as per normal practice. I take 5mg Pred and 10mg

HC - so

> > it's not as if my adrenals aren't supported to the hilt. I am

thinking

> > my adrenals are super sensitive, and I am going to have to go

slower -

> > maybe 1/4 grain every 3-4 weeks?

> >

> > Nicola

> >

>