Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Dear Dave: Welcome to the group. You said you had tests. What tests were those and were they to determine if you in fact had Generalized Anxiety Disorder???? I'm chuckling here because once, on an airplane, when the damn thing dropped over a thousand feet after hitting an air pocket, I had an anxiety attack on the plane. People were screaming, stuff was flying all over the place, I was covered in whatever it was I was drinking at the time. That was in 1974. Thereafter, I usually had an emergency script of low-dose Valium with me on long flights especially when I trotted back and forth to Europe from the West Coast. Most of the time I didn't need to take it; it was a security blanket. Isolated panic attacks can be caused by a variety of things, excess caffeine consumption for one, a thyroid problem for another, but now I see they have made you a mental patient. I was given Paxil in 1997 when I expressed anxiety over not being able to use my arm because of injuries suffered in an automobile accident. Within two weeks of being on this drug, at a 10 mg dose, I landed in the squirrel farm. Upon reading my medical notes some years later, I see that I complained to the doctor about the feelings that I was about to have a panic attack that never materialized. I didn't know it at the time but this was the beginning of akathisia, a very serious side effect of this drug. After being released from the nutbin where they should've taken me off this drug, and instead increased it by two, my anxiety and panic attacks increased to the point that I was completely deranged and couldn't leave my house, one time for a whole month. You might think that Paxil is helping you, but I'm here to tell you that if you are experiencing that kind of anxiety that doesn't quite go anywhere, you are headed for trouble. Paxil increases cortisol, Paxil actually increases anxiety, Paxil actually causes depression, and a long list of other neurological problems that often don't even go away once you are off this drug. It appears that you are soliciting support for taking this drug while you "recover" but those of us who are suffering years later from taking this crap for even a short period of time will tell you that there are other ways to deal with whatever you experienced on that plane and afterwards that don't include taking a mind-altering substance. I found out not too long ago that the air in an airplane, which is recirculated (the very thought of that now makes me cringe!) and is of very poor quality when you consider how many people are breathing it and then exhaling. It's quite possible that the very air you were breathing was enough to trigger some kind of response in your body. Please don't buy into the rhetoric and moneymaking scheme of labeling people with a mental illness. "Blind Reason" a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 I don't really have many side effects from the Paxil, except for a little trouble sleeping, and some feelings of anxiousness or "buzzy" feeling during the day, and times when I don't feel like I can concentrate at work, but the attacks have for the most part gone away. Dave, please look at what you said here. You don't have "many side effects." But the ones you are having - difficulty sleeping, anxiety, lack of concentration, are all indications that this drug is doing something to your brain. Out of curiosity, are you taking the Xanax with the Paxil? I've always wondered why if Paxil is the great drug they claim it to be for anxiety why they always prescribe an anti-anxiety drug to quell the side effects of Paxil. And is right about the Aconitum Nappellus -- it works far better than either of these two drugs, and if won't scramble your brains. And you won't get addicted, and you won't go through hellish withdrawals. "Blind Reason" a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Dear Dave, Panic attacks are one of theceasiest things to address without toxic pharmaceutical drugs. A homeopathic remedy called Aconitum Napellus 30C does the trick very nicely. Two pellets under your tongue (dispensed from the cap--don't touch them) does the trick. Do this immediately at the onset of an attack. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 er, how can it be classic panic disorder when i thought those were " triggered " ? did he try to figure out what was triggering these attacks? and did he explain why paxil, an anti-depressant, was the right drug for you? for that matter, why a drug at all? oh, right, cause that is easier for the doctor. gee, all these great " off-topic " uses for anti-depressants... Sorry, Dave.. you might note a tad of bitterness from a lot of ppl here. It's all warranted, trust me. too bad we trusted the docs and/or drug companies. susan B Re: Welcome Glitterari, Sorry, I don't know your real name. (Should I be responding directly to you or posting to the group?) First of all, thank you VERY much for responding, and caring. Let me try to explain in better detail what happened and what I've done up until this point to try to control the panic episodes. My first experience with the panic attacks was on the plane. It happened when I was reading a magazine. Nothing scared me like a drop in altitude, etc. I felt this rush of adrenaline, pressure in my head, sweating, heart pounding, and a need to " get out of there " . I told the flight attendants what happened, and they stayed with me until the plane landed and the paramedics took me. I had all of the tests associated with heart problems, ekg, CT scan, etc. and everything was normal, so they released me. I flew home later that night, without problem. I had no symptoms for the next 3 weeks. I was going on vacation with my family and was concerned about the flight, so my Dr. gave me Xanax to take for the flight, which I did, and had no problems. Then, while on vacation, in the morning, I was making my son breakfast, and it happened again. Sweaty, clammy, the rush feeling, pressure in the head, and I panicked. Heart racing, trouble breathing. All of it. I took Xanax and it finally settled down, although the feelings came and went throughout the day. From that point on I continued to have these episodes on a farely frequent basis. All out of know where. I wasn't worrying about things. They just happen. So, I went to my Dr. and told him what was going on. I did a complete blood work up and physical. Everything was fine, including another ekg. He put me on 12.5 mg. of Paxil for 2 weeks to see how I handled it, and didn't have any episodes while on that dose. He then bumped me up to 25mg. I asked why and he said that 12.5 was a really low dose and 25 would be normal for me, but wanted to make sure I was ok with the lower dose. I did have one episode while on this dose, during a business meeting at a customer. I rode it out and was fine, but I think this was because I was worried that I didn't have the Xanax with me incase something happened, and I worked myself up over that. Since then I've been fine. To answer your question about the Xanax, I haven't taken any Xanax while on the Paxil, but have it incase I have another episode. I also saw a Pschiatrist to discuss the problems, and he said I've got a classic case of Panic Disorder, and the Paxil is what he would suggest as well. I'm seeing him in another month for followup, but I'm also going to see another person that specializes in the Panic Disorders. That's where I am at. As for the side effects, I might have over stated what I'm feeling. I have had a little trouble sleeping, and feel from time to time through out the day a sort of buzzy feeling, like I've had too much coffee. I have felt some of the heart fluttering but I've felt that before on an ongoing and intermittent basis. You have definitely peaked my curiosity as to whether or not I should be taking the Paxil, and doing what my Dr. says, and I thank you again for all the input. Thanks, Dave > In a message dated 10/27/04 9:13:12 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > emfbo1@y... writes: > > > > I don't really have > > many side effects from the Paxil, except for a little > > trouble sleeping, and some feelings of anxiousness or > > " buzzy " feeling during the day, and times when I don't > > feel like I can concentrate at work, but the attacks > > have for the most part gone away. > > Dave, please look at what you said here. You don't have " many side effects. " > But the ones you are having - difficulty sleeping, anxiety, lack of > concentration, are all indications that this drug is doing something to your brain. > Out of curiosity, are you taking the Xanax with the Paxil? I've always > wondered why if Paxil is the great drug they claim it to be for anxiety why they > always prescribe an anti-anxiety drug to quell the side effects of Paxil. And > is right about the Aconitum Nappellus -- it works far better than > either of these two drugs, and if won't scramble your brains. And you won't get > addicted, and you won't go through hellish withdrawals. > > " Blind Reason " > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's > Unsafe At Any Dose To subscribe to the off-topic list go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/socialWandR/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 I've not heard this before Glitter. May I ask, what ever became to the therapist you went to for help? Does she know what's happened? Oh, yeah, I had a few choice words for her when I was going through withdrawal and she insisted that my mental illness was just now coming out and that I was schizophrenic, blah blah blah. What I said to her is too vulgar to repeat here, but I gave her a good piece of what was left of my mind!!!! "Blind Reason" a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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