Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Is anyone using glutapak at there facility? My boss just ordered it, but I'm still not comfortable using it. I've read articles about glutamine, but it seems inconclusive. Some questions: 1. How do you use it with tube feedings? With p.o. diet?2. What are the doses & what are the formulas used for adults?3. At what stage of an ulcer do you use it?4. Do you use Vit C and Zinc first or glutamine or altogether? Thanks in advance. Cunha, RD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 Just sending you my info on glutamine from old posts. . .you'll have to 'wade' through it to find the answers to your specific questions, but hope it helps anyway. Jan Patenaude, RD Nutritional Supplements: Supplement Savvy for Cancer: Glutamine Home > Total Nutrition > Supplements for Health and Healing Supplement Savvy for Cancer: Glutamine Reduces Cancer Treatment Symptoms By Jill Place, MA, RD What It Is . . . Glutamine is the most plentiful protein in your blood. Your body normally makes enough but under stressful conditions like cancer it's necessary to get extra. And the best way to get all you need under stressful conditions is with a supplement. What It Does . . . Glutamine has many benefits. First, Glutamine keeps your gut working right. And having a healthy gut also boosts immunity because about 65% of your immune system is in your gut. Second, Glutamine may actually stop the growth of tumors by boosting glutathione, a protein that's important for maintaining cell health and preventing oxidative stress. Third, Glutamine may slow weight loss and muscle wasting. Fourth, Glutamine might reduce the symptoms of chemotherapy and radiation, such as diarrhea, aching, numbness, swallowing difficulties, and mouth sores. Fifth, extra Glutamine may actually help your treatments work better. Lastly, Glutamine feeds and protects normal, intestinal, and immune cells but doesn't feed or protect cancer cells. With all these pluses, Glutamine might be first on your list when you are considering what supplements to take during treatment. What To Do . . . Research studies show that you need to take 30 grams or more of Glutamine for best results. This large amount is very expensive and difficult to take if you're buying commercial-grade, low-dose tablets or capsules at the Health Food Store. Also, commercial Glutamine, which is used mainly for bodybuilding, is mixed with other ingredients such as creatine. It's better to take a pure pharmaceutical powdered form of Glutamine. Glutamine loses potency when it's mixed ahead of time, so the best way to take it is to mix it with a liquid or moist food and eat or drink it within 30 minutes of mixing. The powder is odorless and tasteless so it won't spoil the flavor of foods. Try it with any thing listed below or be creative with your own food or drink choices: Juices, such as apple or cranberryNectars, such as apricot or pear Ginger ale (also for nausea)Mineral water (plain or flavored) Iced herbal teasCafix, Postum, or other cereal coffee substitutes Sugar-free Carnation Instant Breakfast (with soy or regular milk) Custard TapiocaIndividual pudding cups Shakes, homemade or cannedLow-fat regular or soy yogurt Canned supplements (low-sugar like Glucerna and dmChoice)Instant pudding made with rice, soy, almond, or regular milk Berries, granola, and yogurtMori-Nu tofu pudding mix Individual fruit-in-juice cupsApplesauce Soft-serve frozen yogurtHot cereals, such as oatmeal Mashed potatoes with gravySauces, such as marinara Pureed winter squashChili or other soups or stews Refried beansVegetable juices, such as carrot Green or black hot or iced teaSoup or potatoes-in-a-cup How Much To Take . . . You want to take at least 30 grams of Glutamine in three divided doses a day as far apart as you can, like at 6am, 2pm, and 10pm, to keep Glutamine and glutathione levels high all day. That's easy to do if you have a scoop already in the can, but if you don't you might want to take about a Tablespoon or whatever the 10-gram equivalent is on the label of the Glutamine supplement you're taking mixed into any in snack-size Ziploc bags. of the foods or drinks above three times a day. It might be easier to pre-measure and store individual servings Studies have shown that Glutamine works best with specific chemo and radiotherapies and specific symptoms. But it also can generally reduce moderate to severe symptoms of any treatment. Have your dietitian or Supplement Savvy Specialist choose from one of the options on the next page for you to follow: If your chemotherapy is TAXOL (paclitaxel) and/or _____________________________, you may get relief from muscular aches, pain, and numbness if you take 30 grams of Glutamine per day divided into three ten-gram doses at ___am, ___pm, and ___pm on the day of your chemo and 4 days following. If your chemotherapy is CAMPTOSAR (irinotecan) and/or________________________, you may get relief from diarrhea if you take 30 grams of Glutamine per day divided into three ten-gram doses at ___am, ___pm, and ___pm on the day of your chemo and 4 days following. If your chemotherapy is 5-FLUOROURACIL and/or_____________________________, you may get relief from mouth sores if you take 30 grams of Glutamine per day divided into three ten-gram doses at ___am, ___pm, and ___pm with 4 to 6 ounces of water, non-acid juice such as apple, or any other mild liquid swished in the mouth in small amounts 10 to 20 times and then swallowed beginning one week prior to your first treatment and continuing through one week after the last treatment. If you are having ABDOMINAL OR HEAD AND NECK RADIATION, you may get relief from mouth sores, stomach or intestinal problems, and/or damage to your mucous membranes if you take 30 grams of Glutamine per day divided into three ten-gram doses at ___am, ___pm, and ___pm beginning one week before your first treatment and continuing for one week after your last treatment. Other treatment:__________________________________________________________ take ___ grams of Glutamine per day divided into three ___-gram doses at ____ am,__pm, and ___pm_____________________________________________. There are also supplements that combine Glutamine with other substances that protect the gut, such as aloe and licorice. Ask your Supplement Savvy Specialist about alternatives and a possible gut maintenance program after you finish treatment. What To Watch Out For . . . If you're pregnant, nursing, or have kidney or liver failure you may not want to use Glutamine supplements. Also, you may experience constipation and bloating, but these symptoms are rare. Glutamine makes human growth hormone, indomethacin, methotrexate, paclitaxel, and most chemotherapies and radiotherapies work better. If you're taking supplements with Licorice Root and Aloe here's some extra considerations. There are many people who shouldn't use licorice, including those with kidney and liver problems, diabetes, arrhythmias, high blood pressure, and low potassium levels. edema, high sodium levels, heart problems, and those who are pregnant. You also shouldn't use licorice if you're taking furosemide/thiazide diuretics, digitalis glycosides, or anti-arrhythmic agents such as procainamide and quinidine, or corticosteroids. Deglycyrrhizinized licorice root extract supposedly does away with the side effects above. Doses greater than 50 grams a day are not recommended, and much less is needed if blended synergistically with other compounds. Aloe shouldn't be used if you have intestinal obstruction and intestinal inflammations such as Crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis. Prolonged use may cause albumin and blood in the urine, and potassium loss, which may increase the action of glycosides and antiarrhythmic drugs. There may also be a potassium deficiency when aloe is used with thiazide diuretics, loop diuretics, licorice, and corticosteriods. There are other side effects with aloe use, but these usually occur only with very high doses. © Copyright 2002 Jill Place, MA, RD If there is something in this article you have particularly liked, you can e-mail a note to yourself as a reminder. Learn more about how to send a note to yourself, or create a note now. The product we use is Glutasolve. It has 15 gm of Glutamine per package. Recomendations are typically .57 gm/kg IBW. My dosage info about glutamine came from a conservative professor I had in a post-doctoral class within the past year.    Also, the only contraindications were for those sensitive to MSG, those who have hepatic or renal disease, and those on anticonvulsant drugs.    The motto of my docs is to start low, go slow.  Tom [Ncc] glutamine and candida I have always thought that glutamine was very helpful and soothing to someone combating candida esp. with dysbiosis and yeast die off symptoms. A physician with GSDL told my patient's internist that with candida, the patient should not be on glutamine or FOS. Huh? I am embarrassed and fear that I have giving out the wrong advise. Please set me straight! I truly value the knowledge and experience out there. Heartfelt thanks. Bonnie The Ultimate Nutrient : Glutamine/the Essential Nonessential Amino Acid by Judy Shabert, Ehrlich (Contributor) Average Customer Review: Usually ships in 24 hours http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0895295881/qid%3D970467667/candidafaq/002-1704586-6229625 Glutamine is highly recommended as a treatment for ulcers, Crohn's disease, IBS and diarrhea. "L" in name stands for natural amino acids, "D" stands for synthetic and. "LD" stands for a mix. There are some things to have in mind when using L-Glutamine: When L-glutamine is converted into glutamate in the intestines, ammonia is formed. Candida and parasites also form ammonia, therefore your system can be overloaded with toxins. Your body might not be able to tolerate the extra ammonia at this time. Also, as glutamine induces excess water to be removed from the bowels. That property of L-Glutamine can be used to threat diarrhea, but can also cause constipation. Daily need for L-Glutamine is 0.2 g/kg of body weight. The person weighting 70 kg needs 14g L-Glutamine daily. L-Glutamine is found abundantly in food and average person inputs 8 grams by eating. It is recommended to take L-Glutamine on empty stomach (between meals). As it requires no digestion, intake of L-Glutamine with food will slow the absorbtion. From CAndida Website: http://www.infosky.net/~alexmi/candida.htm Supplement Glutamine Description Glutamine is the most abundant amino acid in the body – comprising approximately half of the free amino acids in the blood and muscle. As a non-essential amino acid, glutamine can be produced in the body by conversion from another amino acid - glutamic acid (primarily by the skeletal muscle and liver. Glutamine’s main functions in the body include serving as a precursor in the synthesis of other amino acids and glucose for energy. Cells of the immune system, the small intestine and the kidney are the major consumers of glutamine. Claims Boosts immune system function Maintains muscle mass Prevents muscle catabolism (breakdown) Enhances glycogen storage Aids recovery from exercise Theory Intense exercise training results in a well-described drop in plasma glutamine levels. Chronically low glutamine levels have been implicated as a possible contributing factor in athletic overtraining syndrome as well as the transient immunosuppression and increased risk of infections that typically affects competitive athletes during intense training and competition. Under conditions of metabolic stress, the body’s need for glutamine may exceed its ability to produce adequate levels – meaning that a dietary source is required to prevent catabolism of skeletal muscle – the primary source of stored glutamine in the body. Scientific Support A significant body of scientific literature exists to support the beneficial effects of glutamine supplementation in maintaining muscle mass and immune system function in critically ill patients and in those recovering from extensive burns and major surgery. When plasma glutamine levels fall, skeletal muscles may enter a state of catabolism in which muscle protein is degraded to provide free glutamine for the rest of the body. Since skeletal muscle is the major source of glutamine (other than the diet), prolonged deficits in plasma glutamine can lead to a significant loss of skeletal muscle protein and muscle mass. Very little specific work has been done, however, to address the primary target population for the majority of commercially produced glutamine supplements on the market today – competitive athletes In recent years, at least a half-dozen studies have been conducted on glutamine supplementation in athletes and a strong basis exists for the efficacy of glutamine supplements in athletic populations. For example, glutamine’s role in immune system support has been shown to prevent infections following intense bouts of physical activity – which tend to reduce plasma glutamine levels. Glutamine supplements have also been shown to play a role in counteracting the catabolic (muscle-wasting) effects of stress hormones such as cortisol, which are typically elevated by strenuous exercise. The function of glutamine in stimulating glycogen synthase, the enzyme which controls the synthesis and storage of glycogen fuel storage in muscles and liver, may provide a mechanism by which glutamine supplements promote enhanced fuel stores. Glutamine supplements cause a rapid rise in cellular glutamine levels and glutamine stores in muscle. Glutamine is also thought to increase cell volume, where it may stimulate the activity of enzymes in the liver and muscles involved in glycogen storage as well as those involved in anabolic activities such as protein synthesis. Glutamine supplements have also been hypothesized to increase levels of growth hormone, which may be expected to help stimulate protein synthesis and encourage gains in muscle mass and strength, but reliable evidence for this effect of glutamine supplements has not been demonstrated by clinical studies. Safety Glutamine supplements are well tolerated at levels up to at least 20 grams per day and intakes of as much as 40 grams per day should induce no significant adverse effects outside of mild gastrointestinal discomfort. As with any isolated amino acid supplement, consumption in divided 2-4 divided doses throughout the day should increase total body stores without posing significant absorption issues. Value Glutamine supplements are relatively inexpensive compared to other amino acid supplements. For anybody exposed to heightened levels of stress, such as those recovering from injury, surgery, or intense exercise, glutamine supplements represent an economical way to promote tissue repair, reduce muscle catabolism and help prevent infections. Dosage For the immune system support and anti-catabolic actions that are of interest to most athletes, recommended doses range from 1-10 grams. References 1. Alvestrand A, Bergstrom J, Furst P, Germanis G, Widstam U. 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Sports Med. 1998 Sep;26(3):177-91. 25. Young LS, Bye R, Scheltinga M, Ziegler TR, s DO, Wilmore DW. Patients receiving glutamine-supplemented intravenous feedings report an improvement in mood. JPEN J Parenter Enteral Nutr. 1993 Sep-Oct;17(5):422-7. 26. Zanker CL, Swaine IL, Castell LM, Newsholme EA. Responses of plasma glutamine, free tryptophan and branched-chain amino acids to prolonged exercise after a regime designed to reduce muscle glycogen. Eur J Appl Physiol Occup Physiol. 1997;75(6):543-8. Related Supplements Is Glutamine Supplementation Helpful or Harmful?  Dr. Mercola's Comment: Glutamine is an amino acid that makes up the majority of our skeletal muscle. There is some controversy over whether oral glutamine supplementation is toxic or helpful to healthy people. In a past article, Dr. Crayhon expressed the view of many natural medicine experts, "After reviewing the literature, I am unconvinced that high-dose oral glutamine supplementation is toxic to neurons in healthy persons." However, Dr. Blaylock, a board-certified neurosurgeon and author of the highly recommended Excitotoxins: The Taste that Kills wrote in to me with another viewpoint and his response is below. By L. Blaylock, M.D. Advanced Nutritional Concepts, LLC. Dr. Crayhon posted comments on this site indicating that I was terribly mistaken in my caution concerning the use of glutamine and that he had consulted several “cell biologists†who were also concerned with my statements on glutamine safety. In fact it was stated that I apparently did not understand that glutamine was not an excitotoxin and was not converted into an excitotoxin. Of course, I never stated glutamine was an excitotoxin, but I do state that it is converted into the excitotoxin glutamate within neurons. Numerous recent studies as well as Siegel’s Basic Neurochemistry textbook emphatically state that the major source of glutamate is from glutamine in the brain. Normally, when the brain finishes using glutamate for chemical communication between brain cells at the synapse the glutamate is taken up by surrounding glial cells and changed by the enzyme glutamine synthease into glutamine, where it is stored. The Problem With Excitotoxins The glutamine is then transported to the neuron and by the enzyme glutaminase, it is converted to glutamate--the potential excitotoxin. I say potential because unless it accumulates outside the brain cell it is harmless. This is the major source of glutamate within the brain. Excitotoxins are usually amino acids, such as glutamate and aspartate. These special amino acids cause particular brain cells to become excessively excited, to the point they will quickly die. Excitotoxins can also cause a loss of brain synapses and connecting fibers. Food-borne excitotoxins include such additives as MSG, aspartame, hydrolyzed protein and soy protein extract. In two recent studies it was found that the amount of glutamine in the bra could predict the brain damage seen both in pediatric brain injuries and brain damage secondary to seizures. Adding large amounts of glutamine to the diet increases significantly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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