Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 Hi Elva, That is good I hope I follow and lose the weight in my breast also. I have lost around 30 pds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 This is just an opinion and is based on nothing but observation of myself and my family and it is fine if ya'll agree or disagree but I don't really know. My face and my breast and maybe some other parts became almost misshapened and once the diabetes came under control that seem to go away. My face did not even look like me, at all.They seemed in a way to retain fluid or something,maybe sugar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 You have no idea,Susie. Some of the guys may not be chiming in because they have wives that have to live with this and they know its a real pain in the back side that people often make light of,but is a very serious situation for the women that have to live with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 Hi You are afraid what will happen to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 I think my waist and hips are reverse but I'm working on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 Elva writes: << ... My breasts have shrunk, but they were fairly big to begin with so I didnt mind at all. There's still plenty there ;-) >> I wonder if there's a connection between large breasts and diabetes ... I mean, other than that type 2's tend to weigh more. I imagine attending a diabetics' gathering, looking around the room, and going, " Hooterville! " Susie :x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 writes: << That is good I hope I follow and lose the weight in my breast also. I have lost around 30 pds >> Notice none of the guys are chiming in here ... Gee, , that would be *great* if you grew smaller breasts! Dang things just get in our way ... Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 In a message dated 8/6/1999 12:59:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ottercritter@... writes: << I'm unscientific, but I sense there is a connection between cortisone and insulin and adrenalin, etc. People who get cortisone shots for a long time often get moon-faced, and those of who are controlling type 2 on diet alone can have a powerful adrenalin " rush " if we overindulge in fast carbs. And when my glucose gets too high, I retain water like mad. >> Having been through problems with excess corticol steroids ( same as cortisol), I can definately state the excessive cortisol elevates BG. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 In a message dated 8/6/1999 1:10:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ottercritter@... writes: << Another rule of thumb is 80% ... keep the waist to no more than 80% of hip size. >> Wow! Then my 72 inch hips and 68 inch waist is just right! LOL Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 Susie - Interesting question! I remember something about body type affecting one's risk for heart problems; i.e., men are supposed to be " bulky " on top and women are supposed to have big hips (pear shaped). If you're the other way round, it can increase the risk. Not sure why. Its like what they're now finding out about overweight people -- that being overweight isn't necessarily a life threatening problem. That its more important to maintain a certain weight, instead of yo-yo'ing up and down, and to be toned (aerobically fit). There's so much that isn't known! Plus, traditionally, studies have been made on health risks/factors for men, not necessarily women. The medical community finallys seems to be waking up to the fact that there's a difference between men & women. Duh! Beth Type II, dx'd about 3 yrs ago, coming out of diabetes denial (subscribing here is a big step) OtterCritter wrote: > > > > Elva writes: > > << ... My breasts have shrunk, but they were fairly big to begin with so I > didnt mind at all. > There's still plenty there ;-) >> > > I wonder if there's a connection between large breasts and diabetes ... I > mean, other than that type 2's tend to weigh more. I imagine attending a > diabetics' gathering, looking around the room, and going, " Hooterville! " > > Susie :x > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 I forget who mentioned finally being able to buy lacy bras since their weight loss -- congratulations! The last time I lost mucho poundage, I remember the thrill of discovering my collarbones! In my family, bras are referred to as " over the shoulder boulder holders " ! VPolzin@... wrote: > > From: VPolzin@... > > You have no idea,Susie. Some of the guys may not be chiming in because they > have wives that have to live with this and they know its a real pain in the > back side that people often make light of,but is a very serious situation for > the women that have to live with it. > > > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 > <<<...Some of the guys may not be chiming in because they have wives that have > to live with this and they know its a real pain in the back side that people > often make light...>>> Hi , We're afraid that if we talk about it it will happen to us... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 > <<<We're afraid that if we talk about it it will happen to us...>>> Uh...that would be the " sex " part...not the " breasts " part.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 > <<<You are afraid what will happen to you?>>> , No, just don't want any self-fulfilling prophecies.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 Jeny wrote: << My face and my breast and maybe some other parts became almost misshapened and once the diabetes came under control that seem to go away. My face did not even look like me, at all.They seemed in a way to retain fluid or something,maybe sugar? >> I'm unscientific, but I sense there is a connection between cortisone and insulin and adrenalin, etc. People who get cortisone shots for a long time often get moon-faced, and those of who are controlling type 2 on diet alone can have a powerful adrenalin " rush " if we overindulge in fast carbs. And when my glucose gets too high, I retain water like mad. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 Hammond writes: << I remember something about body type affecting one's risk for heart problems; i.e., men are supposed to be " bulky " on top and women are supposed to have big hips (pear shaped). If you're the other way round, it can increase the risk. >> I have read that our greatest danger is intra-abdominal fat ... the fat that lies in between the organs in the abdomen - not the fat that is near the surface. Diabetics who have had liposuction report more illness following the surgery, and I would think this could be the reason why ... the trauma of the operation, plus it isn't removing the " problem fat " . Fat is pretty inert metabolically ... just dead weight that we drag around with us. But I think I read that the intra-abdominal fat is more active metabolically, and this could be the problem. A read a recent study saying that - everything else aside - if women keep their waist size beneath 30 inches, there is a great health advantage. Another rule of thumb is 80% ... keep the waist to no more than 80% of hip size. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 OtterCritter wrote: > > > > Elva writes: > > << ... My breasts have shrunk, but they were fairly big to begin with so I > didnt mind at all. > There's still plenty there ;-) >> > > I wonder if there's a connection between large breasts and diabetes ... I > mean, other than that type 2's tend to weigh more. I imagine attending a > diabetics' gathering, looking around the room, and going, " Hooterville! " > > Susie :x That just goes to prove that being diabetic isn't all bad... -- Dave -- August 6, 1999 dorcutt@... t2 08/98 Glucophage & Aspartame Davor's daily aphorism: Lead me not into temptation, I can find it myself. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 OtterCritter wrote: > > > > writes: > > << That is good I hope I follow and lose the weight in my breast also. I > have > lost around 30 pds >> > > Notice none of the guys are chiming in here ... Gee, , that would be > *great* if you grew smaller breasts! Dang things just get in our way ... > > Susie Wow, even after losing 30 lbs in one? -- Dave -- August 6, 1999 dorcutt@... t2 08/98 Glucophage & Aspartame Davor's daily aphorism: Lead me not into temptation, I can find it myself. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 Again, very interesting information. About five years ago, in the hope of avoiding a family history of diabetes, I lost 101 lbs., coming within 20 pounds or so of my ideal weight. Shortly after going on " maintenance " , my gallbladder acted up and I had to have it removed. I remember the surgeon telling me afterwards (not sure if he knew I'd just lost all that weight) that I should try and lose more, saying something about my having too much fat around my internal organs. At the time, it felt like he was adding " insult to injury " and it was the last thing I wanted to hear, at the time! About a year later, " The Learning Channel " ran a tv series, I think called " The Operation, " that followed a surgeon throughout an entire operation. One operation was on removal of the gallbladder -- having been there, it of course fascinated me. I remember seeing the fat deposits surrounding the liver, pancreas, etc., in a patient I thought was at least a healthy weight. I just thought the fat deposits were nature's way of protecting/cushioning the organs. I guess not, if I follow what you're saying, Susie. Its not enough to lose the weight we can pinch; we need to worry about what we can't see. What next? Guess I'll have to work on by body ratios. And, yes, I gained the weight back. Major bummer. Now-a-days I'm concentrating on eating healthier vs. trying to lose weight. That's why I've found the discussions on low-carbing so informative -- despite what most diets recommend, I've found I need protein to keep my energy up, etc. OtterCritter wrote: > > I have read that our greatest danger is intra-abdominal fat ... the fat that > lies in between the organs in the abdomen - not the fat that is near the > surface. Diabetics who have had liposuction report more illness following > the surgery, and I would think this could be the reason why ... the trauma > of the operation, plus it isn't removing the " problem fat " . Fat is pretty > inert metabolically ... just dead weight that we drag around with us. But I > think I read that the intra-abdominal fat is more active metabolically, and > this could be the problem. > > A read a recent study saying that - everything else aside - if women keep > their waist size beneath 30 inches, there is a great health advantage. > Another rule of thumb is 80% ... keep the waist to no more than 80% of hip > size. > > Susie > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 In a message dated 99-08-06 11:04:34 EDT, you write: << I wonder if there's a connection between large breasts and diabetes ... I mean, other than that type 2's tend to weigh more. I imagine attending a diabetics' gathering, looking around the room, and going, " Hooterville! " Susie :x >> Susie, by my experience...no. Vicki (size aa) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 Hammond wrote: << ... . Its not enough to lose the weight we can pinch; we need to worry about what we can't see. What next? Guess I'll have to work on by body ratios. >> I think people have oversimplified the carbohydrates/diabetes/body fat thing, and we are just beginning to unravel its secrets. I suspect that somehow the diabetes *causes* the intra-abdominal fat, along with all the other problems. As goofy as it would sound to someone not on this list, I think carbohydrates cause fat! Now, Jim is our hero ... dealing with so many other serious health issues. But for many of us, diabetes is our only serious challenge. I just hold onto this sense that, if we can keep our numbers as close to 100 as possible - as much of the time as possible - those other things will fade into memory. I suspect the intra-abdominal fat will take a hike when our bodies no longer consider themselves " diabetic. " Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 In a message dated 99-08-06 11:12:26 EDT, you write: << You have no idea,Susie. Some of the guys may not be chiming in because they have wives that have to live with this and they know its a real pain in the back side that people often make light of,but is a very serious situation for the women that have to live with it. >> When I was younger I used to wish fervently that I was bigger but now that I'm older (and wiser) I'm pretty happy with my aa...my knees may sag but my breasts don't! (Not enough there to sag) Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 In a message dated 99-08-06 13:43:46 EDT, you write: << I think carbohydrates cause fat! >> Well, that makes perfect sense...because it all turns into sugar...if you're not eating breads, pasta, rice as well as desserts, you're going to lose weight! I speak from personal experience...Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 1999 Report Share Posted August 6, 1999 > > Elva writes: > > << ... My breasts have shrunk, but they were fairly big to begin with so I > didnt mind at all. > There's still plenty there ;-) >> > > I wonder if there's a connection between large breasts and diabetes ... I > mean, other than that type 2's tend to weigh more. I imagine attending a > diabetics' gathering, looking around the room, and going, " Hooterville! " > > Susie :x Mine are so small that I am getting a little woried about all this talk about losing weight from them....If I do that they will dissapear completely.... <Grin> Actually the first place that weight loss is noticable on me is under my chin and on my face.... Rhondda > > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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