Re: I'm being explanted on the 30th

[Guest guest]

Hi Stephani,

Good luck on your explant. I think you're going into it with a

great attitude, and I'm glad to hear that your doctors are

supportive and that the plastic surgeon will operate according to

your wishes. As for your husband, glad he's supportive even though

skeptical. My husband is one who always wants medical proof, and

therefore I had a hard time convincing him, but in time he came

around. I spent each day during the six months that I had them

saying to myself " I just want these things out of my body " . I think

my husband thought I'd bounce back overnight, but it takes time.

Sis

>

> I've only posted one other time. I've just had a visit with both

my rheumatologist and my plastic surgeon. I'm being explanted March

30th.

>

> My rheumatologist, when asked to give his 'gut' on the topic of

illness and explants said his gut says that they don't cause a

problem, but that if I would like to try explant to try and trigger

my own remission that he saw no harm done with the surgery. (I told

him remission is my goal and I'm going to keep trying things until

I'm there.) He gave me his go-ahead to proceed saying on his end

everything was fine. He's a great guy and I really like him. He's

doctor Surbeck in Oklahoma. He was professional and supportive.

>

> I then saw my plastic surgeon and got his opinion. I asked for

his 'professional opinion' on implants and Lupus. He's doctor

Ratliff in Tulsa, Oklahoma. He said that a Harvard study says

implants don't cause illness, but that if I want explant along with

the capsule he'll take them out, no problem. Again, I got his

opinion but also his support. Based on his vibe, I think Dr.

Ratliff is personally convinced that implants don't cause illness,

but is perfectly willing to let me test my boundaries and theories

without giving me any grief at all. I told him also that if one is

lucky enough to have a disease that can go into remission, one would

be INSANE not to try and trigger it however possible, and that's my

goal. So here we go. I'll see for myself if I get better! I'm

crossing my fingers and praying and hoping that this is the answer

to fatigue and ill health.

>

> ly I didn't have the cash lying around. My mother is

loaning me the money so I can explant right now. She said it feels

like 'life and death' to her and I feel the same way. We both have

good feelings and are hoping for the best.

>

> Before this, I had my Mercury fillings removed seeing if that

was the problem. (it didn't help, but I have nice white fillings so

no loss) I quit drinking diet drinks or anything with aspartame. (it

didn't help, but I lost 10 pounds. Go figure). I stopped drinking

alcohol. (lost 10 MORE pounds) I tried an herbal detox method.

(no change) I tried meditation and relaxation methods. (I'm

relaxed, but still sick ) I also, and this is the truth and

exhibits my desperation, hired a 'psychic healer'. I'd try a shaman

rain dance at this point to feel well.

>

> My mother last month said, " Maybe it's the implants. "

>

> I said, " They're saline - water. " To which she replied that

maybe I had an allergy to the plastic. I was dumbfounded. I hadn't

considered that. Hence my internet search and then my stop here.

I'm thankful I found a possible way to health. It can't be

coincidence that we all have the same symptoms. My mother also

pointed out that I was perfectly healthy until implantation.

>

> As a side note, I've had tingling and full loss of feeling in my

left pink and ring finger. It comes and goes, like they fell

asleep. I thought I was pinching a nerve, but after reading the

posts here and the same symptoms, I'm now seriously, heavily

suspicious that the tingling is also due to implantation. I also

have a rash on both arms that isn't very visible but as it clears it

lightens my skin. It looks like a birth mark and is my newest

symptom. My first one was severe hair loss, then excessive,

profound fatigue.

>

> With the Lupus diagnosis I'm absolutely no better, just more

medicated.

>

> I have very high hopes. I'm also a little nervous about what my

breasts will look like after 11 years implanted. I plan to do an

aggressive detox after explant - any recommendations of brands or

methods?

>

> My husband is thinking I'm grasping at straws with the explant,

but is willing to let me try it since my mother is the one who

literally put the cash on the table. Does anyone have links a man

might find convincing? Right now he's just going on my gut, my

mother's gut and internet research.

>

> I've been reading the digest every day. Thanks for sharing.

You were the catalyst for my decision. I'm praying it's the answer

to my prayers, and I think it is.

>

> Stephani

>

[Guest guest]

Stephani,

You impress me as a very level headed woman who won't

be defeated! . . . Good for you! . . .

You're on the right track! The shells of saline

implants are made of silicone. After being implanted

this long, the shells are degrading and tiny amounts

of silicone are spreading through your body. Where

they end up, or what trouble they cause is purely

individual.

Another concern is what contaminants your implants

hold. As they degrade small amounts of contaminated

saline will leak into your body. A rupture could make

you very, very ill.

As for how you will look . . . There are several

factors. . . How did you look before? . . . If you

were saggy before, and you don't get a lift, you will

probably be saggy again. If your skin is still

elastic, you will bounce back much better than if your

skin has lost it's elasticity (as one does with age).

Most women are shocked initially when they see how

flat, even concave they are. But . . . just as a

pillow gradually fluffs after you quit sitting on it,

your breasts will fluff when the implants come off.

This will begin shortly after explant and continue for

months afterwards.

Rashes are an indication that toxins are trying to

escape your body. . . You'll probably want to try a

number of detox programs after getting your implants

removed. . . We have a bunch listed in the archives.

Just don't try to do everything at once. You could

start detoxing now . . . but, until your implants are

out, you can't expect to feel a lot better.

I'm glad you found us . . . that you have the support

of your family and doctors . . . and that you will

soon be free of implants! . . .

If there's anything we can help you with, just know

we're here and we want to help you.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Stephani

I can't help but believe that your implants are making you sick.

And I agree that I also would do anything to give myself a chance to

get better. Four years ago I was diagnosed with mixed connective

tissue disease with mainly lupus symptoms and some scleroderma. I

found this site and became convinced my implants were at the root of

my problems. I got explanted and several symptoms got better or

disappeared fairly quickly. Other symptoms continued to rotate in

and out and I have done alot of changing my diet, detoxing, and

supporting my immune system. I was also on the Antibiotic Protocol

the last four years which can deal quite successfully with many

autoimmune diseases. I now consider myself significantly recovered

with mainly minor episodes of fatigue and muscle/tendon pain that

tend to mostly be related to herxing or to hormonal imbalance. This

is despite having FMS for the last twenty years also. So all things

considered, I am doing quite well! I think you should follow your

gut instinct and get them out. One thing is for sure---if they are

causing your illness, you will only continue to get more and more

symptoms. Best of luck to you.

Hugs, Kathy

>

> I've only posted one other time. I've just had a visit with both

my rheumatologist and my plastic surgeon. I'm being explanted March

30th.

>

> My rheumatologist, when asked to give his 'gut' on the topic of

illness and explants said his gut says that they don't cause a

problem, but that if I would like to try explant to try and trigger

my own remission that he saw no harm done with the surgery. (I told

him remission is my goal and I'm going to keep trying things until

I'm there.) He gave me his go-ahead to proceed saying on his end

everything was fine. He's a great guy and I really like him. He's

doctor Surbeck in Oklahoma. He was professional and supportive.

>

> I then saw my plastic surgeon and got his opinion. I asked for

his 'professional opinion' on implants and Lupus. He's doctor

Ratliff in Tulsa, Oklahoma. He said that a Harvard study says

implants don't cause illness, but that if I want explant along with

the capsule he'll take them out, no problem. Again, I got his

opinion but also his support. Based on his vibe, I think Dr.

Ratliff is personally convinced that implants don't cause illness,

but is perfectly willing to let me test my boundaries and theories

without giving me any grief at all. I told him also that if one is

lucky enough to have a disease that can go into remission, one would

be INSANE not to try and trigger it however possible, and that's my

goal. So here we go. I'll see for myself if I get better! I'm

crossing my fingers and praying and hoping that this is the answer

to fatigue and ill health.

>

> ly I didn't have the cash lying around. My mother is

loaning me the money so I can explant right now. She said it feels

like 'life and death' to her and I feel the same way. We both have

good feelings and are hoping for the best.

>

> Before this, I had my Mercury fillings removed seeing if that

was the problem. (it didn't help, but I have nice white fillings so

no loss) I quit drinking diet drinks or anything with aspartame. (it

didn't help, but I lost 10 pounds. Go figure). I stopped drinking

alcohol. (lost 10 MORE pounds) I tried an herbal detox method.

(no change) I tried meditation and relaxation methods. (I'm

relaxed, but still sick ) I also, and this is the truth and

exhibits my desperation, hired a 'psychic healer'. I'd try a shaman

rain dance at this point to feel well.

>

> My mother last month said, " Maybe it's the implants. "

>

> I said, " They're saline - water. " To which she replied that

maybe I had an allergy to the plastic. I was dumbfounded. I hadn't

considered that. Hence my internet search and then my stop here.

I'm thankful I found a possible way to health. It can't be

coincidence that we all have the same symptoms. My mother also

pointed out that I was perfectly healthy until implantation.

>

> As a side note, I've had tingling and full loss of feeling in my

left pink and ring finger. It comes and goes, like they fell

asleep. I thought I was pinching a nerve, but after reading the

posts here and the same symptoms, I'm now seriously, heavily

suspicious that the tingling is also due to implantation. I also

have a rash on both arms that isn't very visible but as it clears it

lightens my skin. It looks like a birth mark and is my newest

symptom. My first one was severe hair loss, then excessive,

profound fatigue.

>

> With the Lupus diagnosis I'm absolutely no better, just more

medicated.

>

> I have very high hopes. I'm also a little nervous about what my

breasts will look like after 11 years implanted. I plan to do an

aggressive detox after explant - any recommendations of brands or

methods?

>

> My husband is thinking I'm grasping at straws with the explant,

but is willing to let me try it since my mother is the one who

literally put the cash on the table. Does anyone have links a man

might find convincing? Right now he's just going on my gut, my

mother's gut and internet research.

>

> I've been reading the digest every day. Thanks for sharing.

You were the catalyst for my decision. I'm praying it's the answer

to my prayers, and I think it is.

>

> Stephani

>

[Guest guest]

Stephani - you are a very determined woman! I hope this is the

answer for you. I think that once our immune systems get to this

point it seems we are sensitive to everything! I was explanted in

October and felt better pretty quickly, then relapsed. Right now I

am feeling pretty good, juicing organic fruits and vegies twice a

day, and recently started going to an infrared sauna. The women

here have wonderful detox advice, and I know you will get a lot of

help from them. For me,I found that treatment by an ND was the best

thing and keeps me from floundering around wasting a lot of money on

supplements that weren't right for me. The doctor was recommended

by Kenda and he is in Oklahoma.

You are right, the similar symptoms can't be just coincidence, and I

think you are doing the right thing to be explanted. My husband was

supportive through the whole thing, he just wants me to get well. I

know he would be happy to share his experience with your husband if

you think that would help.

As far as the way you will look when you are done, the women here

highly recommend docs that will make you look great when they are

done. I went to my implanting surgeon, and I don't know if it makes

a difference or not, but I don't think I look that great. But I

don't really care either, I just want to feel good. With clothes

on, I actually like being small again, I feel more like myself. I

was always aware of the bags of water on my chest, especially when I

laid down. I may still need some time to " fluff " . If not, I tell

myself that I did this to myself, and it's a daily reminder of what

I went through. I have grown so much from the experience, that I

don't regret it and wouldn't trade it.

You'll get through this. It's wonderful your mother is supporting

you, and it sounds like your husband just needs some more info. It

may take time to get well, even after explant, but you will have

hope!!

I hope this makes sense, I fell asleep in the middle of the last

paragraph!! I have to go to bed!

Prayers for you,

Cherie

>

> I've only posted one other time. I've just had a visit with both

my rheumatologist and my plastic surgeon. I'm being explanted March

30th.

>

> My rheumatologist, when asked to give his 'gut' on the topic of

illness and explants said his gut says that they don't cause a

problem, but that if I would like to try explant to try and trigger

my own remission that he saw no harm done with the surgery. (I told

him remission is my goal and I'm going to keep trying things until

I'm there.) He gave me his go-ahead to proceed saying on his end

everything was fine. He's a great guy and I really like him. He's

doctor Surbeck in Oklahoma. He was professional and supportive.

>

> I then saw my plastic surgeon and got his opinion. I asked for

his 'professional opinion' on implants and Lupus. He's doctor

Ratliff in Tulsa, Oklahoma. He said that a Harvard study says

implants don't cause illness, but that if I want explant along with

the capsule he'll take them out, no problem. Again, I got his

opinion but also his support. Based on his vibe, I think Dr.

Ratliff is personally convinced that implants don't cause illness,

but is perfectly willing to let me test my boundaries and theories

without giving me any grief at all. I told him also that if one is

lucky enough to have a disease that can go into remission, one would

be INSANE not to try and trigger it however possible, and that's my

goal. So here we go. I'll see for myself if I get better! I'm

crossing my fingers and praying and hoping that this is the answer

to fatigue and ill health.

>

> ly I didn't have the cash lying around. My mother is

loaning me the money so I can explant right now. She said it feels

like 'life and death' to her and I feel the same way. We both have

good feelings and are hoping for the best.

>

> Before this, I had my Mercury fillings removed seeing if that

was the problem. (it didn't help, but I have nice white fillings so

no loss) I quit drinking diet drinks or anything with aspartame. (it

didn't help, but I lost 10 pounds. Go figure). I stopped drinking

alcohol. (lost 10 MORE pounds) I tried an herbal detox method.

(no change) I tried meditation and relaxation methods. (I'm

relaxed, but still sick ) I also, and this is the truth and

exhibits my desperation, hired a 'psychic healer'. I'd try a shaman

rain dance at this point to feel well.

>

> My mother last month said, " Maybe it's the implants. "

>

> I said, " They're saline - water. " To which she replied that

maybe I had an allergy to the plastic. I was dumbfounded. I hadn't

considered that. Hence my internet search and then my stop here.

I'm thankful I found a possible way to health. It can't be

coincidence that we all have the same symptoms. My mother also

pointed out that I was perfectly healthy until implantation.

>

> As a side note, I've had tingling and full loss of feeling in my

left pink and ring finger. It comes and goes, like they fell

asleep. I thought I was pinching a nerve, but after reading the

posts here and the same symptoms, I'm now seriously, heavily

suspicious that the tingling is also due to implantation. I also

have a rash on both arms that isn't very visible but as it clears it

lightens my skin. It looks like a birth mark and is my newest

symptom. My first one was severe hair loss, then excessive,

profound fatigue.

>

> With the Lupus diagnosis I'm absolutely no better, just more

medicated.

>

> I have very high hopes. I'm also a little nervous about what my

breasts will look like after 11 years implanted. I plan to do an

aggressive detox after explant - any recommendations of brands or

methods?

>

> My husband is thinking I'm grasping at straws with the explant,

but is willing to let me try it since my mother is the one who

literally put the cash on the table. Does anyone have links a man

might find convincing? Right now he's just going on my gut, my

mother's gut and internet research.

>

> I've been reading the digest every day. Thanks for sharing.

You were the catalyst for my decision. I'm praying it's the answer

to my prayers, and I think it is.

>

> Stephani

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Here is Karl's e-mail, karlbjellum@...

I had surgery yesterday. This saline group has offered me a lot of

support. I really wanted to check in with everyone after my

surgery. Since I wasn't up to it I had my husband read posts to me

last night. He had heard me talk about the support group and how it

has helped me. When he read your post I asked him to reply to it.

Hugs, Marcy

>

> I've only posted one other time. I've just had a visit with both

my rheumatologist and my plastic surgeon. I'm being explanted March

30th.

>

> My rheumatologist, when asked to give his 'gut' on the topic of

illness and explants said his gut says that they don't cause a

problem, but that if I would like to try explant to try and trigger

my own remission that he saw no harm done with the surgery. (I told

him remission is my goal and I'm going to keep trying things until

I'm there.) He gave me his go-ahead to proceed saying on his end

everything was fine. He's a great guy and I really like him. He's

doctor Surbeck in Oklahoma. He was professional and supportive.

>

> I then saw my plastic surgeon and got his opinion. I asked for

his 'professional opinion' on implants and Lupus. He's doctor

Ratliff in Tulsa, Oklahoma. He said that a Harvard study says

implants don't cause illness, but that if I want explant along with

the capsule he'll take them out, no problem. Again, I got his

opinion but also his support. Based on his vibe, I think Dr.

Ratliff is personally convinced that implants don't cause illness,

but is perfectly willing to let me test my boundaries and theories

without giving me any grief at all. I told him also that if one is

lucky enough to have a disease that can go into remission, one would

be INSANE not to try and trigger it however possible, and that's my

goal. So here we go. I'll see for myself if I get better! I'm

crossing my fingers and praying and hoping that this is the answer

to fatigue and ill health.

>

> ly I didn't have the cash lying around. My mother is

loaning me the money so I can explant right now. She said it feels

like 'life and death' to her and I feel the same way. We both have

good feelings and are hoping for the best.

>

> Before this, I had my Mercury fillings removed seeing if that

was the problem. (it didn't help, but I have nice white fillings so

no loss) I quit drinking diet drinks or anything with aspartame. (it

didn't help, but I lost 10 pounds. Go figure). I stopped drinking

alcohol. (lost 10 MORE pounds) I tried an herbal detox method.

(no change) I tried meditation and relaxation methods. (I'm

relaxed, but still sick ) I also, and this is the truth and

exhibits my desperation, hired a 'psychic healer'. I'd try a shaman

rain dance at this point to feel well.

>

> My mother last month said, " Maybe it's the implants. "

>

> I said, " They're saline - water. " To which she replied that

maybe I had an allergy to the plastic. I was dumbfounded. I hadn't

considered that. Hence my internet search and then my stop here.

I'm thankful I found a possible way to health. It can't be

coincidence that we all have the same symptoms. My mother also

pointed out that I was perfectly healthy until implantation.

>

> As a side note, I've had tingling and full loss of feeling in my

left pink and ring finger. It comes and goes, like they fell

asleep. I thought I was pinching a nerve, but after reading the

posts here and the same symptoms, I'm now seriously, heavily

suspicious that the tingling is also due to implantation. I also

have a rash on both arms that isn't very visible but as it clears it

lightens my skin. It looks like a birth mark and is my newest

symptom. My first one was severe hair loss, then excessive,

profound fatigue.

>

> With the Lupus diagnosis I'm absolutely no better, just more

medicated.

>

> I have very high hopes. I'm also a little nervous about what my

breasts will look like after 11 years implanted. I plan to do an

aggressive detox after explant - any recommendations of brands or

methods?

>

> My husband is thinking I'm grasping at straws with the explant,

but is willing to let me try it since my mother is the one who

literally put the cash on the table. Does anyone have links a man

might find convincing? Right now he's just going on my gut, my

mother's gut and internet research.

>

> I've been reading the digest every day. Thanks for sharing.

You were the catalyst for my decision. I'm praying it's the answer

to my prayers, and I think it is.

>

> Stephani

>