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Dear cheryl,

I was put on paxil about 2 weeks after my dad died.Was I deppressed probably, was i anxious probably.The reason i went to the doctor was because i had trouble sleeping as i witnesed my dads death.I kept waking up in the night hearing him scream.I was having trouble coping with it i don't deney that.I know being put on paxil for that was wrong because i would have gotten over it eventualy.I am not bipolar and i suffered horrendously coming off the stuff.To me bipolar sounds like ups and downs and who doesn't feel them to me it's part of life.Believe me i have had my fair share of that in my life and never turned to drugs for it the doctor knew that to, all i needed was for someone to talk to as i had never experienced death before.Don't let anyone label him with anything as he will have to live with it for the rest of his life.

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As I've read more and more about Paxil's effect on

personality one thing keeps coming to my attention...that is, people

who are Bi-polar may react badly to paxil.

This was a very clever way for the drug companies to cover their butts when people flipped out on paxil. I was told the same thing -- that I'd been bi-polar my whole life and didn't know it until I took Paxil. The inanity of that statement speaks for itself. Paxil is a dirty rotten drug. And it causes perfectly normal people to go manic on it.

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Dear Cheryl,

You said:

<<Good Morning group...Found out the Dr. who prescribed my son the

Paxil is out of town until Wed. Just my luck...Anyway, I spoke with

his associates nurse. She's going to ask the other Dr. about the

liquid Paxil (she never heard of it). She said he'll probably want to

see him in the office, which is ok...just expensive since my son is

no longer covered on our insurance...oh well...So now I'm

waiting...As I've read more and more about Paxil's effect on

personality one thing keeps coming to my attention...that is, people

who are Bi-polar may react badly to paxil.

My son has never been diagnosed as bi-polar, but I've had many people

swear he is. Could that be why he's had so much trouble with this

drug? And if that is the case, are we sure he should be placed back

on it? Just double checking....I sure don't want to make any further

mistakes at this point.>>

** If your son had " bipolar disorder " he would have become manic on

Paxil. I didn't pick that up from the description of him that you wrote.

We have many people here with no trace of " bipolar disordser " who also

had adverse effects to Paxil (and other antidepressants).

Watch ouyt fro the tendency and need that those in medicine have to label

everything. Your son was fine most of his life according to you as long

as he got the nutrients he needed.

You state he experienced mild depression and that's how he came to take

Paxil. Depression is a normal life experience ESPECIALLY for teens and

young adults. It is a normal and valid emotion to some things in life. You

didn't say what precipitated the depression but in most cases it is a life

circumstance that does this. When we drug people for this we rob them of

the opportunities to master their emotions and their lives as they learn to

weather and respond to difficult life experiences.

Is still doing a nutritional protocol? This would be really

helpful to him right now. Also, if he experiences pain from discontinuing

the amitriptyline Benedryl will be helpful (it has anticholinergic

properites. When discintinuing an antidepressant [and benzodiazepines] the

cholinergic system becomes over-responsive. This causes pain and a flu-like

syndrome).

High five to for his rational decisions when he is feeling so

poorly. Hang in there, . You'll make it. Feel free to jump in here

yourself and talk to us. We have a number of guys here around your age.

They'll come out of the woodwork if you post.

Regards,

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Hi Ros,

I appreciate your input and your comments. I am sorry for what

happened to you...I wish someone would have been there for you when

you needed to talk. I'm glad you're in this group, your experience

is valuable to those of us so new...

Thanks for the " hugs " !

Cheryl

> Dear cheryl,

> I was put on paxil about 2 weeks after my dad died.Was I deppressed

probably,

> was i anxious probably.The reason i went to the doctor was because

i had

> trouble sleeping as i witnesed my dads death.I kept waking up in

the night hearing

> him scream.I was having trouble coping with it i don't deney that.I

know

> being put on paxil for that was wrong because i would have gotten

over it

> eventualy.I am not bipolar and i suffered horrendously coming off

the stuff.To me

> bipolar sounds like ups and downs and who doesn't feel them to me

it's part of

> life.Believe me i have had my fair share of that in my life and

never turned to

> drugs for it the doctor knew that to, all i needed was for someone

to talk to

> as i had never experienced death before.Don't let anyone label him

with

> anything as he will have to live with it for the rest of his life.

> Hugs Ros

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> ** If your son had " bipolar disorder " he would have become

manic on Paxil. I didn't pick that up from the description of him

that you wrote.

Good...I'll try to not worry about that anymore...

> We have many people here with no trace of " bipolar disordser "

who also had adverse effects to Paxil (and other antidepressants).

> Watch ouyt fro the tendency and need that those in medicine have to

label everything. Your son was fine most of his life according to

you as long as he got the nutrients he needed.

Yes, for the most part that is true..he did have some academic and

behavorial problems in school..but as he got older it seemed

to " level out " and he was doing pretty good.

>

> You state he experienced mild depression and that's how he came to

take Paxil. Depression is a normal life experience ESPECIALLY for

teens and young adults. It is a normal and valid emotion to some

things in life. You didn't say what precipitated the depression but

in most cases it is a life circumstance that does this. When we drug

people for this we rob them of the opportunities to master their

emotions and their lives as they learn to weather and respond to

difficult life experiences.

I'm not real sure what precipitated his depression...I think he

was just feeling down cause he wasn't making the money he wanted to,

he didn't feel as if he was a good father to his son, cause he wasn't

able to offer the financial support he felt he should be giving...his

son's mother is very insulting and degrading to him (). That

doesn't help any...Just alot of things I guess...mostly little

things...Like Ros, he probably could have gotten by without any type

of anti-depressant..

>Is still doing a nutritional protocol? This would be really

helpful to him right now.

Yes, he began taking the Original Limu shortly after he began

experiencing the withdrawal. I sent the nutritional information on

Limu earlier....The only other things he takes is calcium/magnesium

and he doesn't take it regularly.

Also, if he experiences pain from discontinuing

> the amitriptyline Benedryl will be helpful (it has anticholinergic

> properites. When discintinuing an antidepressant [and

benzodiazepines] the

> cholinergic system becomes over-responsive. This causes pain and a

flu-like

> syndrome).

>

>

> High five to for his rational decisions when he is

feeling so poorly. Hang in there, . You'll make it. Feel

free to jump in here yourself and talk to us. We have a number of

guys here around your age. They'll come out of the woodwork if you

post.

Unfortunaely doesn't type, not much anyway...actually he

doesn't spell very well. He was labeled early on with a learning

disability and placed in a " self contained special education class " .

(BIG MISTAKE on our part!) He didn't get much of an education in

there, it was a joke!)..I did home school him a couple years, he did

well...but over-all he has alot of trouble reading and writing. I

read all the posts to him. And have offered to respond for him, he

just doesn't want to..He may try sitting down and writing you all

eventually, he just doesn't have the patience right now..

Prior to the paxil problems I was encouraging him to go to night

school and get his ged. He could do it, he just doesn't believe he

can do it. I've often told him " he is his own worst enemy " .

Still waiting to hear from the doctor...

Cheryl

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