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Amen sister!! Gosh...my nada does that constantly, and it just makes me

want to SCREAM! You know, my nada has always had this way of taking silly

jokes personally saying " there is alot of truth in kidding...if someone

tells you a joke, that is there way of calling you stupid " So for her,

jokingly saying " if that were true i would have battened down the hatches

and gotten out of town " ....she may have picked up on it...maybe not...either

way i would have said it, just to get it out of my system.

As far as correcting her...I don't know that it is worth it. I guess it

would depend on the memory. I have found in some cases, if my mom was

telling a " story " to a friend..if I correct her, she just ends up telling

HER version to 10 others without me...I guess to " even the score " . In my

particular case, I have found when she recalls something incorrectly, I just

get this look on my face like she is making it all up and shake my head...or

I may simply, in a very harsh tone say to her... " you know, for some reason

you feel it is necessary to recall that in that way....I was there, and it

couldn't be further from the truth " and then I change the subject. As I

have gotten older, I have noticed my nada's sister and aunts have picked up

that she does this to them too. They just refuse to respond to her in any

way at all. They just get silent...nothing like an awkward silence to ruin

a flowing conversation. I can tell it really bothers her....she gets very

uncomfortable, and she has never tried to make " excuses " for their silence.

On ONE occasion I was able to get to my nada....we were at the home of my

brother's fiance's parents for his fiance's birthday. My nada decided to

re-tell this story about me which, not only wasn't true....but it had

NOTHING to do with the subject matter at hand....after telling the story, I

said " you know what?...I'm going to go stand across the room, because I don

t want to be anywhere near you when you get struck by that lightning bolt. "

Everyone there laughed and walked away with me...and she stood there smiling

after chuckling a bit. Then it occurred to me...EVERYONE got what I said

but HER! Well, my father must have clued her in on what it all meant,

because when I got home I had a nasty message on my answering machine about

how she would appreciate it if, in the future i refrained from embarrassing

her with all my " fancy talk " . (only she said a-frained...she is always

mispronouncing words) I still have the message....because it cracks me up.

Chalk one up for the KO's!!

As far as which is best...it's probably different in each situation. On one

hand, correcting them and making them realize that you HAVEN'T forgotten how

it actually happened may be the best way to handle it....but on the other,

ignoring them and refusing to have any other conversation with them may

remove the validation from their story. At the end of the day no matter

what we say or do to correct them...they will always have either total

amnesia or convenient self-validating recall. I would say, take each

scenario as it comes....and do whatever your instincts tell you. Just know

that you aren't alone...and somewhere out there....there are other KO's

healing with you.

Kisses and Nibbles,

Bunny

-- Modifying memories

I HATE how Nada always reworks here memories to suit herself. That just

makes me crazy. I am convinced it is a grand plan of hers to stay in control

and manipulate. She keeps pulling this " I told you I was coming by to visit

my granddaughter " crap when there is no way that is true. Whenever she even

vaguely hints dropping by it is time to to batton down the hatches and warn

everyone in sight. Like I would just FORGET. HA! I am tempted to tell her

that. As for her other memories, is it even worth correcting her? AGH!

BUtifulGrace

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Beach Bunny wrote:

At the end of the day no matter

what we say or do to correct them...they will always have either total

amnesia or convenient self-validating recall

>>>>>There you have it right there. They will always warp it regardless. Not

worth it I guess.

BUtifulGrace

Amen sister!! Gosh...my nada does that constantly, and it just makes me

want to SCREAM! You know, my nada has always had this way of taking silly

jokes personally saying " there is alot of truth in kidding...if someone

tells you a joke, that is there way of calling you stupid " So for her,

jokingly saying " if that were true i would have battened down the hatches

and gotten out of town " ....she may have picked up on it...maybe not...either

way i would have said it, just to get it out of my system.

As far as correcting her...I don't know that it is worth it. I guess it

would depend on the memory. I have found in some cases, if my mom was

telling a " story " to a friend..if I correct her, she just ends up telling

HER version to 10 others without me...I guess to " even the score " . In my

particular case, I have found when she recalls something incorrectly, I just

get this look on my face like she is making it all up and shake my head...or

I may simply, in a very harsh tone say to her... " you know, for some reason

you feel it is necessary to recall that in that way....I was there, and it

couldn't be further from the truth " and then I change the subject. As I

have gotten older, I have noticed my nada's sister and aunts have picked up

that she does this to them too. They just refuse to respond to her in any

way at all. They just get silent...nothing like an awkward silence to ruin

a flowing conversation. I can tell it really bothers her....she gets very

uncomfortable, and she has never tried to make " excuses " for their silence.

On ONE occasion I was able to get to my nada....we were at the home of my

brother's fiance's parents for his fiance's birthday. My nada decided to

re-tell this story about me which, not only wasn't true....but it had

NOTHING to do with the subject matter at hand....after telling the story, I

said " you know what?...I'm going to go stand across the room, because I don

t want to be anywhere near you when you get struck by that lightning bolt. "

Everyone there laughed and walked away with me...and she stood there smiling

after chuckling a bit. Then it occurred to me...EVERYONE got what I said

but HER! Well, my father must have clued her in on what it all meant,

because when I got home I had a nasty message on my answering machine about

how she would appreciate it if, in the future i refrained from embarrassing

her with all my " fancy talk " . (only she said a-frained...she is always

mispronouncing words) I still have the message....because it cracks me up.

Chalk one up for the KO's!!

As far as which is best...it's probably different in each situation. On one

hand, correcting them and making them realize that you HAVEN'T forgotten how

it actually happened may be the best way to handle it....but on the other,

ignoring them and refusing to have any other conversation with them may

remove the validation from their story. At the end of the day no matter

what we say or do to correct them...they will always have either total

amnesia or convenient self-validating recall. I would say, take each

scenario as it comes....and do whatever your instincts tell you. Just know

that you aren't alone...and somewhere out there....there are other KO's

healing with you.

Kisses and Nibbles,

Bunny

-- Modifying memories

I HATE how Nada always reworks here memories to suit herself. That just

makes me crazy. I am convinced it is a grand plan of hers to stay in control

and manipulate. She keeps pulling this " I told you I was coming by to visit

my granddaughter " crap when there is no way that is true. Whenever she even

vaguely hints dropping by it is time to to batton down the hatches and warn

everyone in sight. Like I would just FORGET. HA! I am tempted to tell her

that. As for her other memories, is it even worth correcting her? AGH!

BUtifulGrace

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That is crazymaking ... they need to make us the one with the distorted

recollections.

The thing about confronting a nada is that everything escalates when you do.

It is fairly predicable that nada is not going to consider any boundaries

or constructive criticism as anything but an attack.

With my nada, it is all or nothing; you either bite your tongue off or stand

up for yourself...I'm in the 'stand up and roll with the consequences camp'.

Her self defense mechanisms are scary and vile. Standing up to her has led

to my requiring no contact. Carol

In a message dated 6/19/2006 11:06:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

butifulgrace@... writes:

I HATE how Nada always reworks here memories to suit herself. That just

makes me crazy. I am convinced it is a grand plan of hers to stay in control

and

manipulate. She keeps pulling this " I told you I was coming by to visit my

granddaughter " crap when there is no way that is true. Whenever she even

vaguely hints dropping by it is time to to batton down the hatches and warn

everyone in sight. Like I would just FORGET. HA! I am tempted to tell her

that.

As for her other memories, is it even worth correcting her? AGH!

BUtifulGrace

Guest guest
Posted

Hmm. SO if I am looking for a reason to go no contact I should confront. I LIKE

IT!

BGrace

getevenpersevere@... wrote:

That is crazymaking ... they need to make us the one with the distorted

recollections.

The thing about confronting a nada is that everything escalates when you do.

It is fairly predicable that nada is not going to consider any boundaries

or constructive criticism as anything but an attack.

With my nada, it is all or nothing; you either bite your tongue off or stand

up for yourself...I'm in the 'stand up and roll with the consequences camp'.

Her self defense mechanisms are scary and vile. Standing up to her has led

to my requiring no contact. Carol

In a message dated 6/19/2006 11:06:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

butifulgrace@... writes:

I HATE how Nada always reworks here memories to suit herself. That just

makes me crazy. I am convinced it is a grand plan of hers to stay in control and

manipulate. She keeps pulling this " I told you I was coming by to visit my

granddaughter " crap when there is no way that is true. Whenever she even

vaguely hints dropping by it is time to to batton down the hatches and warn

everyone in sight. Like I would just FORGET. HA! I am tempted to tell her that.

As for her other memories, is it even worth correcting her? AGH!

BUtifulGrace

Guest guest
Posted

Indeed.

I would like to be able to say that they can't help it, but Ive seen Yeti

completely revise history (sometimes even before its happened) to either

manipulate everyone, or make herself the victim of her own behaviour so

people feel sorry (not to mention endebted) to her.

Most commonly, she manipulates people . into feeling sorry for her ... and

guilty about . well, everything.

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[mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of

getevenpersevere@...

Sent: Tuesday, 20 June 2006 3:25 PM

To: WTOAdultChildren1

Subject: Re: Modifying memories

That is crazymaking ... they need to make us the one with the distorted

recollections.

The thing about confronting a nada is that everything escalates when you do.

It is fairly predicable that nada is not going to consider any boundaries

or constructive criticism as anything but an attack.

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Guest guest
Posted

Beach Bunny, I don't think you need any other excuse to go no contact

than the fact that you have grown up with a BP parent and now feel

that no contact is important for you--so you can heal or lead a normal

life--or so you can have a break!

I do understand what you mean about the " final straw " though. Lately,

I've been kind of just thinking to myself, " go ahead, do it! " when I

see my nada going into pre-rage. I am ready to go NC anytime if I

need to and, at this point, it might really just be a relief!

Trish

>

> That is crazymaking ... they need to make us the one with the distorted

> recollections.

>

> The thing about confronting a nada is that everything escalates when

you do.

> It is fairly predicable that nada is not going to consider any

boundaries

> or constructive criticism as anything but an attack.

>

> With my nada, it is all or nothing; you either bite your tongue off

or stand

> up for yourself...I'm in the 'stand up and roll with the

consequences camp'.

> Her self defense mechanisms are scary and vile. Standing up to her

has led

> to my requiring no contact. Carol

>

>

>

> In a message dated 6/19/2006 11:06:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> butifulgrace@... writes:

>

> I HATE how Nada always reworks here memories to suit herself. That just

> makes me crazy. I am convinced it is a grand plan of hers to stay in

control and

> manipulate. She keeps pulling this " I told you I was coming by to

visit my

> granddaughter " crap when there is no way that is true. Whenever she

even

> vaguely hints dropping by it is time to to batton down the hatches

and warn

> everyone in sight. Like I would just FORGET. HA! I am tempted to

tell her that.

> As for her other memories, is it even worth correcting her? AGH!

> BUtifulGrace

>

>

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