Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Posted December 10, 2008 I would get him checked for PANDAS with those numbers and get him on a LARGE probiotic dose Recovering from Autism is a marathonNOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!Read more about it on my BLOGs athttp://www.myspace.com/christelkinghttp://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwisheshttp://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677063169 OLE - bacteria - dieoff - what to do next? Christel and others- Considering we have all this stuff going on fromthe Diflucan, what would you say would be a good starting dose of OLEfor my 4yo, 42lb. DS? I want to be gentle on his system, but at thesame time, if we have these many issues even after Difl was stopped,maybe the bacteria have taken over, and perhaps I should act soonerrather than later? Does this make sense, or should I let him 'recover'first?What kind of die-off can I expect from OLE?And kind of OT, but DS has been having behavior issues at school withthis whole issue, and will have a 2-week holiday break soon. Whatwould you suggest I can try out- I thought with school being out, Icould support his detox/die-off issues better at home. We really haveyeast, bacteria, and virus issues, and the bacteria #s are scarier.Varicella Zoster Titer 3.25 (1.09 and more is +ve)DDI Stool resultsPseudomonas Aeruginosa 4+Bacillus spp. 1+Enterobacter cloacae 2+Gamma Strep 4+Beta Strep not Grp A or B 4+Klebsiella Oxytoca 2+Proteus Mirabilis 2+Bifidobacterium and Lactobacc. spp. 0+E.coli and Enterococcus spp. 4+No yeast cultured in stool, but markers in OAT high.What can I do next so I don't do a repeat of this nightmare? Thanks somuch in advance - its great to have this kind of support and advice! No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1841 - Release Date: 12/10/2008 9:30 AM Quote
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Posted December 10, 2008 His ASO titers were within range (lower end)- would that rule out PANDAS? What would be a large dose of probiotics? I replaced the VSL3 with something we used before called Ortho Biotic for the AM, and before bed he gets Klaire's Therbiotic Detox, and Factor 4. SHould I give more if the same, or try a new brand? Thanks again! > > I would get him checked for PANDAS with those numbers and get him on a LARGE probiotic dose > > Recovering from Autism is a marathon > NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible! > Read more about it on my BLOGs at > http://www.myspace.com/christelking > http://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677063169 > > OLE - bacteria - dieoff - what to do next? > > > Christel and others- Considering we have all this stuff going on from > the Diflucan, what would you say would be a good starting dose of OLE > for my 4yo, 42lb. DS? I want to be gentle on his system, but at the > same time, if we have these many issues even after Difl was stopped, > maybe the bacteria have taken over, and perhaps I should act sooner > rather than later? Does this make sense, or should I let him 'recover' > first? > What kind of die-off can I expect from OLE? > > And kind of OT, but DS has been having behavior issues at school with > this whole issue, and will have a 2-week holiday break soon. What > would you suggest I can try out- I thought with school being out, I > could support his detox/die-off issues better at home. We really have > yeast, bacteria, and virus issues, and the bacteria #s are scarier. > > Varicella Zoster Titer 3.25 (1.09 and more is +ve) > > DDI Stool results > Pseudomonas Aeruginosa 4+ > Bacillus spp. 1+ > Enterobacter cloacae 2+ > Gamma Strep 4+ > Beta Strep not Grp A or B 4+ > Klebsiella Oxytoca 2+ > Proteus Mirabilis 2+ > > Bifidobacterium and Lactobacc. spp. 0+ > E.coli and Enterococcus spp. 4+ > > No yeast cultured in stool, but markers in OAT high. > > What can I do next so I don't do a repeat of this nightmare? Thanks so > much in advance - its great to have this kind of support and advice! > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1841 - Release Date: 12/10/2008 9:30 AM > Quote
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Posted December 11, 2008 alot of this is a personal choice. titers timing is important to catching a dx. we have run titers the first 2 times we saw regression with our son, only to not catch it right. (we didn't realize you want to do it LATER after the regression catching it between 6-8 weeks. but for the dx of the strep you need it sooner, SO you may have to test a FEW times with a few weeks BETWEEN them to see if you can catch it Recovering from Autism is a marathonNOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!Read more about it on my BLOGs athttp://www.myspace.com/christelkinghttp://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwisheshttp://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677063169 OLE - bacteria - dieoff - what to do next?> > > Christel and others- Considering we have all this stuff going on from> the Diflucan, what would you say would be a good starting dose of OLE> for my 4yo, 42lb. DS? I want to be gentle on his system, but at the> same time, if we have these many issues even after Difl was stopped,> maybe the bacteria have taken over, and perhaps I should act sooner> rather than later? Does this make sense, or should I let him 'recover'> first?> What kind of die-off can I expect from OLE?> > And kind of OT, but DS has been having behavior issues at school with> this whole issue, and will have a 2-week holiday break soon. What> would you suggest I can try out- I thought with school being out, I> could support his detox/die-off issues better at home. We really have> yeast, bacteria, and virus issues, and the bacteria #s are scarier.> > Varicella Zoster Titer 3.25 (1.09 and more is +ve)> > DDI Stool results> Pseudomonas Aeruginosa 4+> Bacillus spp. 1+> Enterobacter cloacae 2+> Gamma Strep 4+> Beta Strep not Grp A or B 4+> Klebsiella Oxytoca 2+> Proteus Mirabilis 2+> > Bifidobacterium and Lactobacc. spp. 0+> E.coli and Enterococcus spp. 4+> > No yeast cultured in stool, but markers in OAT high.> > What can I do next so I don't do a repeat of this nightmare? Thanks so> much in advance - its great to have this kind of support and advice!> > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1841 - Release Date:12/10/2008 9:30 AM> No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1841 - Release Date: 12/10/2008 9:30 AM Quote
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