Re: Essential oil safety

[Guest guest]

Thanks, this is just the type of info I needed.

Marguerite

From:

BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

[mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of Limin

Tseng

Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:10 AM

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

Subject: Essential oil safety

Essential oils are the most potent herbal medicines. However, when it comes

to the nature, nothing is truly harmless. One needs to use the oils with

knowledge and information of safety in mind. I am in my leaning process on this

subject and would like to share with the group some safety notes I wrote down

for myself.

1. Do not use perfume grade or commercial grade oils, as they can contain

synthetic chemicals therefore certain degree of toxicity. Use good quality,

therapeutic grade essential oils only.

2. Perfume grade or commercial grade oils might contain the residues of

synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, or herbicides. Inhalation or massaging with

contaminated oils can cause inflammation. Choose a brand of which the essential

oils are distilled from wild-crafted or organically grown plants and herbs.

3. An essential oil may be both safe and toxic depending on the amount

administered. For example, Lavender oil is sedative in low dose and promotes

the body's production of serotonin, but a high dose can cause insomnia.

Essential oils should be diluted in a carrier oil such as olive oil, almond

oil, hazelnut oil, evening primrose oil, coconut oil, or wheat germ oil (if

gluten is not an issue) for massaging.

4. Eucalyptus oil should not be ingested. Ingest larger amounts of Eucalyptus

oil can cause gastrointestinal symptoms, which might be followed by central

nervous system depression. Normal use for inhalation and skin exposure produce

no or minimal symptoms.

5. Undiluted essential oils are never to be placed in the ear, eyes (even

diluted), or nose.

6. Some ketones are neurotoxic, but not all. For example, the ketone content in

Eucalyptus or Rosemary is relatively unproblematic. In some circumstances the

so-call " toxic " constituents are the very ones that are needed of

beneficial results such as the phenol thymol in Thyme oil, an extremely

effective antiseptic and anti-fungal agent. So just be clear about what the

treatments purpose are and use the oils with care.

7. For those with epilepsy or a tendency to seizure activity, it might be safer

to avoid Sage, Rosemary, and Hyssop oils. These oils are rich in camphor - a

natural chemical suspected to trigger seizures.

Limin

www.healthbylimin.com

Young Living Distributor ID: 1111136

[Guest guest]

Limin

 

Thanks for this information......I was wondering if a drop or two of Thieves is an exception to the do not ingest Eucalyptus oil?

 

Eucalyptus oil is one that my daughter with MCS can not yet tolerate. I have used the cinnamon and clove as singles to diffuse for mold as the information from Young Living show each of these to be potent against mold on their own. This worked well for me as I diffused it in a room where I could smell mold around a window.I can no longer detect the smell.

 

I have been using the Thieves cleaner (one capful) in each laundry load to kill bacteria and mold in the wash. What I noticed is everything is coming out much cleaner than with my usual fragrance free natural laundry soap.....sometimes I have felt like I just can't get my laundry really clean without the chemicals.....not now. I love love love the Thieves for this safe boost for my laundry. I add some white vinegar to the rinse and my laundry is very clean and void of chemical. I also noticed since using the Thieves that the laundry is very soft even though I never use softeners of any kind.

 

I went over to my daughter's apartment and cleaned and diffused with Thieves. She lives in a SF apartment close to the ocean and mold can be a problem. I left her a bottle of the Thieves hand soap and she had a young guest over the holidays. Eden is three years old and she kept wanting to wash her hands constantly with the Thieves.Her mom was delighted as she normally has to coax her to wash hands. I don't blame Eden as I just adore the smell of Thieves hand soap.

 

I also left my daughter with a tin of the hard lozenges and the Thieves oil. I told her to suck on the lozenges and put a drop of Thieves on a piece of tissue and tuck into her bra.....because she is attending law school and everyone shows up in class sneezing and coughing.....no one wants to get behind but as a result ....lots of flu going around.

 

I love Thieves!!!!!!

 

 

Essential oils are the most potent herbal medicines. However, when it comes to the nature, nothing is truly harmless. One needs to use the oils with knowledge and information of safety in mind. I am in my leaning process on this subject and would like to share with the group some safety notes I wrote down for myself.

1. Do not use perfume grade or commercial grade oils, as they can contain synthetic chemicals therefore certain degree of toxicity. Use good quality, therapeutic grade essential oils only.2. Perfume grade or commercial grade oils might contain the residues of synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, or herbicides. Inhalation or massaging with contaminated oils can cause inflammation. Choose a brand of which the essential oils are distilled from wild-crafted or organically grown plants and herbs.

3. An essential oil may be both safe and toxic depending on the amount administered. For example, Lavender oil is sedative in low dose and promotes the body's production of serotonin, but a high dose can cause insomnia. Essential oils should be diluted in a carrier oil such as olive oil, almond oil, hazelnut oil, evening primrose oil, coconut oil, or wheat germ oil (if gluten is not an issue) for massaging.

4. Eucalyptus oil should not be ingested. Ingest larger amounts of Eucalyptus oil can cause gastrointestinal symptoms, which might be followed by central nervous system depression. Normal use for inhalation and skin exposure produce no or minimal symptoms.

5. Undiluted essential oils are never to be placed in the ear, eyes (even diluted), or nose. 6. Some ketones are neurotoxic, but not all. For example, the ketone content in Eucalyptus or Rosemary is relatively unproblematic. In some circumstances the so-call " toxic " constituents are the very ones that are needed of beneficial results such as the phenol thymol in Thyme oil, an extremely effective antiseptic and anti-fungal agent. So just be clear about what the treatments purpose are and use the oils with care.

7. For those with epilepsy or a tendency to seizure activity, it might be safer to avoid Sage, Rosemary, and Hyssop oils. These oils are rich in camphor - a natural chemical suspected to trigger seizures.Limin

www.healthbylimin.comYoung Living Distributor ID: 1111136

[Guest guest]

...so Makayla is good with the scent of Thieves? She is so sensitive and I'm thinking if she can handle it, anyone can!

Tami

Limin

Thanks for this information......I was wondering if a drop or two of Thieves is an exception to the do not ingest Eucalyptus oil?

Eucalyptus oil is one that my daughter with MCS can not yet tolerate. I have used the cinnamon and clove as singles to diffuse for mold as the information from Young Living show each of these to be potent against mold on their own. This worked well for me as I diffused it in a room where I could smell mold around a window.I can no longer detect the smell.

I have been using the Thieves cleaner (one capful) in each laundry load to kill bacteria and mold in the wash. What I noticed is everything is coming out much cleaner than with my usual fragrance free natural laundry soap.....sometimes I have felt like I just can't get my laundry really clean without the chemicals.....not now. I love love love the Thieves for this safe boost for my laundry. I add some white vinegar to the rinse and my laundry is very clean and void of chemical. I also noticed since using the Thieves that the laundry is very soft even though I never use softeners of any kind.

I went over to my daughter's apartment and cleaned and diffused with Thieves. She lives in a SF apartment close to the ocean and mold can be a problem. I left her a bottle of the Thieves hand soap and she had a young guest over the holidays. Eden is three years old and she kept wanting to wash her hands constantly with the Thieves.Her mom was delighted as she normally has to coax her to wash hands. I don't blame Eden as I just adore the smell of Thieves hand soap.

I also left my daughter with a tin of the hard lozenges and the Thieves oil. I told her to suck on the lozenges and put a drop of Thieves on a piece of tissue and tuck into her bra.....because she is attending law school and everyone shows up in class sneezing and coughing.....no one wants to get behind but as a result ....lots of flu going around.

I love Thieves!!!!!!

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Limin Tseng <liminslett (DOT) net> wrote:

Essential oils are the most potent herbal medicines. However, when it comes to the nature, nothing is truly harmless. One needs to use the oils with knowledge and information of safety in mind. I am in my leaning process on this subject and would like to share with the group some safety notes I wrote down for myself.1. Do not use perfume grade or commercial grade oils, as they can contain synthetic chemicals therefore certain degree of toxicity. Use good quality, therapeutic grade essential oils only.2. Perfume grade or commercial grade oils might contain the residues of synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, or herbicides. Inhalation or massaging with contaminated oils can cause inflammation. Choose a brand of which the essential oils are distilled from wild-crafted or organically grown plants and herbs. 3. An essential oil may be both safe and toxic depending on the amount administered. For example, Lavender oil is sedative in low dose and promotes the body's production of serotonin, but a high dose can cause insomnia. Essential oils should be diluted in a carrier oil such as olive oil, almond oil, hazelnut oil, evening primrose oil, coconut oil, or wheat germ oil (if gluten is not an issue) for massaging. 4. Eucalyptus oil should not be ingested. Ingest larger amounts of Eucalyptus oil can cause gastrointestinal symptoms, which might be followed by central nervous system depression. Normal use for inhalation and skin exposure produce no or minimal symptoms. 5. Undiluted essential oils are never to be placed in the ear, eyes (even diluted), or nose. 6. Some ketones are neurotoxic, but not all. For example, the ketone content in Eucalyptus or Rosemary is relatively unproblematic. In some circumstances the so-call "toxic" constituents are the very ones that are needed of beneficial results such as the phenol thymol in Thyme oil, an extremely effective antiseptic and anti-fungal agent. So just be clear about what the treatments purpose are and use the oils with care.7. For those with epilepsy or a tendency to seizure activity, it might be safer to avoid Sage, Rosemary, and Hyssop oils. These oils are rich in camphor - a natural chemical suspected to trigger seizures.Liminwww.healthbylimin.comYoung Living Distributor ID: 1111136

[Guest guest]

Tami

 

No the only thing she seems to react to in the Thieves is the Eucalyptus which is why I only diffuse the singles cinnamon and clove for mold (for now)

She tried the tooth paste and mouthwash and I think she reacts to the peppermint and the eucalyptus. So we have put those on hold.I love the tooth paste for myself and don't want to be without it. I don't use it right before I am going to drive her anywhere as she reacts to my breathe....yes my minty fresh breath!!!!! I can wash out the shower and toilets and then air out the room and she handles it ok after some time has passed. I do rinse the laundry in white vinegar because it neutralizes the smell of the Thieves and she is able to handle all laundry which has been boosted with Thieves as long as there is vinegar in the rinse cycle. Yes Tami she is very severe in her MCS and I think she will eventually be able to handle these products but for now we must go slow. I believe Suzan said her son could not handle them at first but she kept trying and now he is good with it. She even diffuses it.

 

Hugs,

 

 

 

...so Makayla is good with the scent of Thieves?   She is so sensitive and I'm thinking if she can handle it, anyone can!

 

Tami

 

 

 

 

Limin

 

Thanks for this information......I was wondering if a drop or two of Thieves is an exception to the do not ingest Eucalyptus oil?

 

Eucalyptus oil is one that my daughter with MCS can not yet tolerate. I have used the cinnamon and clove as singles to diffuse for mold as the information from Young Living show each of these to be potent against mold on their own. This worked well for me as I diffused it in a room where I could smell mold around a window.I can no longer detect the smell.

 

I have been using the Thieves cleaner (one capful) in each laundry load to kill bacteria and mold in the wash. What I noticed is everything is coming out much cleaner than with my usual fragrance free natural laundry soap.....sometimes I have felt like I just can't get my laundry really clean without the chemicals.....not now. I love love love the Thieves for this safe boost for my laundry. I add some white vinegar to the rinse and my laundry is very clean and void of chemical. I also noticed since using the Thieves that the laundry is very soft even though I never use softeners of any kind.

 

I went over to my daughter's apartment and cleaned and diffused with Thieves. She lives in a SF apartment close to the ocean and mold can be a problem. I left her a bottle of the Thieves hand soap and she had a young guest over the holidays. Eden is three years old and she kept wanting to wash her hands constantly with the Thieves.Her mom was delighted as she normally has to coax her to wash hands. I don't blame Eden as I just adore the smell of Thieves hand soap.

 

I also left my daughter with a tin of the hard lozenges and the Thieves oil. I told her to suck on the lozenges and put a drop of Thieves on a piece of tissue and tuck into her bra.....because she is attending law school and everyone shows up in class sneezing and coughing.....no one wants to get behind but as a result ....lots of flu going around.

 

I love Thieves!!!!!!

 

 

Essential oils are the most potent herbal medicines. However, when it comes to the nature, nothing is truly harmless. One needs to use the oils with knowledge and information of safety in mind. I am in my leaning process on this subject and would like to share with the group some safety notes I wrote down for myself.

1. Do not use perfume grade or commercial grade oils, as they can contain synthetic chemicals therefore certain degree of toxicity. Use good quality, therapeutic grade essential oils only.2. Perfume grade or commercial grade oils might contain the residues of synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, or herbicides. Inhalation or massaging with contaminated oils can cause inflammation. Choose a brand of which the essential oils are distilled from wild-crafted or organically grown plants and herbs.

3. An essential oil may be both safe and toxic depending on the amount administered. For example, Lavender oil is sedative in low dose and promotes the body's production of serotonin, but a high dose can cause insomnia. Essential oils should be diluted in a carrier oil such as olive oil, almond oil, hazelnut oil, evening primrose oil, coconut oil, or wheat germ oil (if gluten is not an issue) for massaging.

4. Eucalyptus oil should not be ingested. Ingest larger amounts of Eucalyptus oil can cause gastrointestinal symptoms, which might be followed by central nervous system depression. Normal use for inhalation and skin exposure produce no or minimal symptoms.

5. Undiluted essential oils are never to be placed in the ear, eyes (even diluted), or nose. 6. Some ketones are neurotoxic, but not all. For example, the ketone content in Eucalyptus or Rosemary is relatively unproblematic. In some circumstances the so-call " toxic " constituents are the very ones that are needed of beneficial results such as the phenol thymol in Thyme oil, an extremely effective antiseptic and anti-fungal agent. So just be clear about what the treatments purpose are and use the oils with care.

7. For those with epilepsy or a tendency to seizure activity, it might be safer to avoid Sage, Rosemary, and Hyssop oils. These oils are rich in camphor - a natural chemical suspected to trigger seizures.Limin

www.healthbylimin.comYoung Living Distributor ID: 1111136

 

[Guest guest]

Tami

 

My hint that we could diffuse the single cinnamon was that she puts tons of cinnamon in her unsweetened coconut milk or rice milk. I purchase a cinnamon powder from my co-op in San Francisco which has a high oil content and is very potent. She drinks it everyday....just loves it. I think it is so interesting as this will work against fungus in her gut and she gravitates toward it.I think I remember cinnamon as being good for sugar metabolism as well? Limin?

 

Limin mentions she just puts a drop of the Thieves in her egg nog over the holidays and it was absolutely delicious so we will start with a drop of the cinnamon oil fro Living Young as it is pure food grade of course and see how she does with that!!!! We are watching our sugar grams and the cinnamon alone without the sweeteners in eggnog is really yummy. ...also you can try the " Just Like Sugar " product that we have all been introduced to from your conference and add that and a drop of Thieves or plain cinnamon oil to either unsweetened coconut milk or rice milk. We do ok with soy so we use it in there occasionally.

 

I am having so much fun exploring with Living Young....

 

Hugs,

Tami

 

No the only thing she seems to react to in the Thieves is the Eucalyptus which is why I only diffuse the singles cinnamon and clove for mold (for now)

She tried the tooth paste and mouthwash and I think she reacts to the peppermint and the eucalyptus. So we have put those on hold.I love the tooth paste for myself and don't want to be without it. I don't use it right before I am going to drive her anywhere as she reacts to my breathe....yes my minty fresh breath!!!!! I can wash out the shower and toilets and then air out the room and she handles it ok after some time has passed. I do rinse the laundry in white vinegar because it neutralizes the smell of the Thieves and she is able to handle all laundry which has been boosted with Thieves as long as there is vinegar in the rinse cycle. Yes Tami she is very severe in her MCS and I think she will eventually be able to handle these products but for now we must go slow. I believe Suzan said her son could not handle them at first but she kept trying and now he is good with it. She even diffuses it.

 

Hugs,

 

 

 

...so Makayla is good with the scent of Thieves?   She is so sensitive and I'm thinking if she can handle it, anyone can!

 

Tami

 

 

 

 

Limin

 

Thanks for this information......I was wondering if a drop or two of Thieves is an exception to the do not ingest Eucalyptus oil?

 

Eucalyptus oil is one that my daughter with MCS can not yet tolerate. I have used the cinnamon and clove as singles to diffuse for mold as the information from Young Living show each of these to be potent against mold on their own. This worked well for me as I diffused it in a room where I could smell mold around a window.I can no longer detect the smell.

 

I have been using the Thieves cleaner (one capful) in each laundry load to kill bacteria and mold in the wash. What I noticed is everything is coming out much cleaner than with my usual fragrance free natural laundry soap.....sometimes I have felt like I just can't get my laundry really clean without the chemicals.....not now. I love love love the Thieves for this safe boost for my laundry. I add some white vinegar to the rinse and my laundry is very clean and void of chemical. I also noticed since using the Thieves that the laundry is very soft even though I never use softeners of any kind.

 

I went over to my daughter's apartment and cleaned and diffused with Thieves. She lives in a SF apartment close to the ocean and mold can be a problem. I left her a bottle of the Thieves hand soap and she had a young guest over the holidays. Eden is three years old and she kept wanting to wash her hands constantly with the Thieves.Her mom was delighted as she normally has to coax her to wash hands. I don't blame Eden as I just adore the smell of Thieves hand soap.

 

I also left my daughter with a tin of the hard lozenges and the Thieves oil. I told her to suck on the lozenges and put a drop of Thieves on a piece of tissue and tuck into her bra.....because she is attending law school and everyone shows up in class sneezing and coughing.....no one wants to get behind but as a result ....lots of flu going around.

 

I love Thieves!!!!!!

 

 

Essential oils are the most potent herbal medicines. However, when it comes to the nature, nothing is truly harmless. One needs to use the oils with knowledge and information of safety in mind. I am in my leaning process on this subject and would like to share with the group some safety notes I wrote down for myself.

1. Do not use perfume grade or commercial grade oils, as they can contain synthetic chemicals therefore certain degree of toxicity. Use good quality, therapeutic grade essential oils only.2. Perfume grade or commercial grade oils might contain the residues of synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, or herbicides. Inhalation or massaging with contaminated oils can cause inflammation. Choose a brand of which the essential oils are distilled from wild-crafted or organically grown plants and herbs.

3. An essential oil may be both safe and toxic depending on the amount administered. For example, Lavender oil is sedative in low dose and promotes the body's production of serotonin, but a high dose can cause insomnia. Essential oils should be diluted in a carrier oil such as olive oil, almond oil, hazelnut oil, evening primrose oil, coconut oil, or wheat germ oil (if gluten is not an issue) for massaging.

4. Eucalyptus oil should not be ingested. Ingest larger amounts of Eucalyptus oil can cause gastrointestinal symptoms, which might be followed by central nervous system depression. Normal use for inhalation and skin exposure produce no or minimal symptoms.

5. Undiluted essential oils are never to be placed in the ear, eyes (even diluted), or nose. 6. Some ketones are neurotoxic, but not all. For example, the ketone content in Eucalyptus or Rosemary is relatively unproblematic. In some circumstances the so-call " toxic " constituents are the very ones that are needed of beneficial results such as the phenol thymol in Thyme oil, an extremely effective antiseptic and anti-fungal agent. So just be clear about what the treatments purpose are and use the oils with care.

7. For those with epilepsy or a tendency to seizure activity, it might be safer to avoid Sage, Rosemary, and Hyssop oils. These oils are rich in camphor - a natural chemical suspected to trigger seizures.Limin

www.healthbylimin.comYoung Living Distributor ID: 1111136

 

[Guest guest]

Got it...thanks for the clarification. is taking the YL supplement called Longevity right now. He seems to do very well with it. It has orange, clove and frankincense in it. It's supposed to protect from damaging diet and environment, supports brain function, cell regeneration, liver and immune function. So far so good!

Tami

Tami

My hint that we could diffuse the single cinnamon was that she puts tons of cinnamon in her unsweetened coconut milk or rice milk. I purchase a cinnamon powder from my co-op in San Francisco which has a high oil content and is very potent. She drinks it everyday....just loves it. I think it is so interesting as this will work against fungus in her gut and she gravitates toward it.I think I remember cinnamon as being good for sugar metabolism as well? Limin?

Limin mentions she just puts a drop of the Thieves in her egg nog over the holidays and it was absolutely delicious so we will start with a drop of the cinnamon oil fro Living Young as it is pure food grade of course and see how she does with that!!!! We are watching our sugar grams and the cinnamon alone without the sweeteners in eggnog is really yummy. ...also you can try the "Just Like Sugar" product that we have all been introduced to from your conference and add that and a drop of Thieves or plain cinnamon oil to either unsweetened coconut milk or rice milk. We do ok with soy so we use it in there occasionally.

I am having so much fun exploring with Living Young....

Hugs,

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:04 AM, nancy berndt <nlberndtgmail> wrote:

Tami

No the only thing she seems to react to in the Thieves is the Eucalyptus which is why I only diffuse the singles cinnamon and clove for mold (for now)

She tried the tooth paste and mouthwash and I think she reacts to the peppermint and the eucalyptus. So we have put those on hold.I love the tooth paste for myself and don't want to be without it. I don't use it right before I am going to drive her anywhere as she reacts to my breathe....yes my minty fresh breath!!!!! I can wash out the shower and toilets and then air out the room and she handles it ok after some time has passed. I do rinse the laundry in white vinegar because it neutralizes the smell of the Thieves and she is able to handle all laundry which has been boosted with Thieves as long as there is vinegar in the rinse cycle. Yes Tami she is very severe in her MCS and I think she will eventually be able to handle these products but for now we must go slow. I believe Suzan said her son could not handle them at first but she kept trying and now he is good with it. She even diffuses it.

Hugs,

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:43 AM, TamiDuncan <Tamiduncanaol> wrote:

...so Makayla is good with the scent of Thieves? She is so sensitive and I'm thinking if she can handle it, anyone can!

Tami

In a message dated 01/07/10 10:42:48 Pacific Standard Time, nlberndtgmail writes:

Limin

Thanks for this information......I was wondering if a drop or two of Thieves is an exception to the do not ingest Eucalyptus oil?

Eucalyptus oil is one that my daughter with MCS can not yet tolerate. I have used the cinnamon and clove as singles to diffuse for mold as the information from Young Living show each of these to be potent against mold on their own. This worked well for me as I diffused it in a room where I could smell mold around a window.I can no longer detect the smell.

I have been using the Thieves cleaner (one capful) in each laundry load to kill bacteria and mold in the wash. What I noticed is everything is coming out much cleaner than with my usual fragrance free natural laundry soap.....sometimes I have felt like I just can't get my laundry really clean without the chemicals.....not now. I love love love the Thieves for this safe boost for my laundry. I add some white vinegar to the rinse and my laundry is very clean and void of chemical. I also noticed since using the Thieves that the laundry is very soft even though I never use softeners of any kind.

I went over to my daughter's apartment and cleaned and diffused with Thieves. She lives in a SF apartment close to the ocean and mold can be a problem. I left her a bottle of the Thieves hand soap and she had a young guest over the holidays. Eden is three years old and she kept wanting to wash her hands constantly with the Thieves.Her mom was delighted as she normally has to coax her to wash hands. I don't blame Eden as I just adore the smell of Thieves hand soap.

I also left my daughter with a tin of the hard lozenges and the Thieves oil. I told her to suck on the lozenges and put a drop of Thieves on a piece of tissue and tuck into her bra.....because she is attending law school and everyone shows up in class sneezing and coughing.....no one wants to get behind but as a result ....lots of flu going around.

I love Thieves!!!!!!

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Limin Tseng <liminslett (DOT) net> wrote:

Essential oils are the most potent herbal medicines. However, when it comes to the nature, nothing is truly harmless. One needs to use the oils with knowledge and information of safety in mind. I am in my leaning process on this subject and would like to share with the group some safety notes I wrote down for myself.1. Do not use perfume grade or commercial grade oils, as they can contain synthetic chemicals therefore certain degree of toxicity. Use good quality, therapeutic grade essential oils only.2. Perfume grade or commercial grade oils might contain the residues of synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, or herbicides. Inhalation or massaging with contaminated oils can cause inflammation. Choose a brand of which the essential oils are distilled from wild-crafted or organically grown plants and herbs. 3. An essential oil may be both safe and toxic depending on the amount administered. For example, Lavender oil is sedative in low dose and promotes the body's production of serotonin, but a high dose can cause insomnia. Essential oils should be diluted in a carrier oil such as olive oil, almond oil, hazelnut oil, evening primrose oil, coconut oil, or wheat germ oil (if gluten is not an issue) for massaging. 4. Eucalyptus oil should not be ingested. Ingest larger amounts of Eucalyptus oil can cause gastrointestinal symptoms, which might be followed by central nervous system depression. Normal use for inhalation and skin exposure produce no or minimal symptoms. 5. Undiluted essential oils are never to be placed in the ear, eyes (even diluted), or nose. 6. Some ketones are neurotoxic, but not all. For example, the ketone content in Eucalyptus or Rosemary is relatively unproblematic. In some circumstances the so-call "toxic" constituents are the very ones that are needed of beneficial results such as the phenol thymol in Thyme oil, an extremely effective antiseptic and anti-fungal agent. So just be clear about what the treatments purpose are and use the oils with care.

7. For those with epilepsy or a tendency to seizure activity, it might be safer to avoid Sage, Rosemary, and Hyssop oils. These oils are rich in camphor - a natural chemical suspected to trigger seizures.Liminwww.healthbylimin.comYoung Living Distributor ID: 1111136

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tami

I'll check it out....but my daughter won't take anything " the King " has not ART tested her for ) I'll have to get a sample from one of you who is on it and make up a vial for her next visit )

Keep us posted!

Hugs, nancy

 

Got it...thanks for the clarification.  is taking the YL supplement called Longevity right now.  He seems to do very well with it.  It has orange, clove and frankincense in it.  It's supposed to protect from damaging diet and environment, supports brain function, cell regeneration, liver and immune function.   So far so good! 

 

Tami

 

 

 

 

Tami

 

My hint that we could diffuse the single cinnamon was that she puts tons of cinnamon in her unsweetened coconut milk or rice milk. I purchase a cinnamon powder from my co-op in San Francisco which has a high oil content and is very potent. She drinks it everyday....just loves it. I think it is so interesting as this will work against fungus in her gut and she gravitates toward it.I think I remember cinnamon as being good for sugar metabolism as well? Limin?

 

Limin mentions she just puts a drop of the Thieves in her egg nog over the holidays and it was absolutely delicious so we will start with a drop of the cinnamon oil fro Living Young as it is pure food grade of course and see how she does with that!!!! We are watching our sugar grams and the cinnamon alone without the sweeteners in eggnog is really yummy. ...also you can try the " Just Like Sugar " product that we have all been introduced to from your conference and add that and a drop of Thieves or plain cinnamon oil to either unsweetened coconut milk or rice milk. We do ok with soy so we use it in there occasionally.

 

I am having so much fun exploring with Living Young....

 

Hugs,

Tami

 

No the only thing she seems to react to in the Thieves is the Eucalyptus which is why I only diffuse the singles cinnamon and clove for mold (for now)

She tried the tooth paste and mouthwash and I think she reacts to the peppermint and the eucalyptus. So we have put those on hold.I love the tooth paste for myself and don't want to be without it. I don't use it right before I am going to drive her anywhere as she reacts to my breathe....yes my minty fresh breath!!!!! I can wash out the shower and toilets and then air out the room and she handles it ok after some time has passed. I do rinse the laundry in white vinegar because it neutralizes the smell of the Thieves and she is able to handle all laundry which has been boosted with Thieves as long as there is vinegar in the rinse cycle. Yes Tami she is very severe in her MCS and I think she will eventually be able to handle these products but for now we must go slow. I believe Suzan said her son could not handle them at first but she kept trying and now he is good with it. She even diffuses it.

 

Hugs,

 

 

 

...so Makayla is good with the scent of Thieves?   She is so sensitive and I'm thinking if she can handle it, anyone can!

 

Tami

 

 

 

 

Limin

 

Thanks for this information......I was wondering if a drop or two of Thieves is an exception to the do not ingest Eucalyptus oil?

 

Eucalyptus oil is one that my daughter with MCS can not yet tolerate. I have used the cinnamon and clove as singles to diffuse for mold as the information from Young Living show each of these to be potent against mold on their own. This worked well for me as I diffused it in a room where I could smell mold around a window.I can no longer detect the smell.

 

I have been using the Thieves cleaner (one capful) in each laundry load to kill bacteria and mold in the wash. What I noticed is everything is coming out much cleaner than with my usual fragrance free natural laundry soap.....sometimes I have felt like I just can't get my laundry really clean without the chemicals.....not now. I love love love the Thieves for this safe boost for my laundry. I add some white vinegar to the rinse and my laundry is very clean and void of chemical. I also noticed since using the Thieves that the laundry is very soft even though I never use softeners of any kind.

 

I went over to my daughter's apartment and cleaned and diffused with Thieves. She lives in a SF apartment close to the ocean and mold can be a problem. I left her a bottle of the Thieves hand soap and she had a young guest over the holidays. Eden is three years old and she kept wanting to wash her hands constantly with the Thieves.Her mom was delighted as she normally has to coax her to wash hands. I don't blame Eden as I just adore the smell of Thieves hand soap.

 

I also left my daughter with a tin of the hard lozenges and the Thieves oil. I told her to suck on the lozenges and put a drop of Thieves on a piece of tissue and tuck into her bra.....because she is attending law school and everyone shows up in class sneezing and coughing.....no one wants to get behind but as a result ....lots of flu going around.

 

I love Thieves!!!!!!

 

 

Essential oils are the most potent herbal medicines. However, when it comes to the nature, nothing is truly harmless. One needs to use the oils with knowledge and information of safety in mind. I am in my leaning process on this subject and would like to share with the group some safety notes I wrote down for myself.

1. Do not use perfume grade or commercial grade oils, as they can contain synthetic chemicals therefore certain degree of toxicity. Use good quality, therapeutic grade essential oils only.2. Perfume grade or commercial grade oils might contain the residues of synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, or herbicides. Inhalation or massaging with contaminated oils can cause inflammation. Choose a brand of which the essential oils are distilled from wild-crafted or organically grown plants and herbs.

3. An essential oil may be both safe and toxic depending on the amount administered. For example, Lavender oil is sedative in low dose and promotes the body's production of serotonin, but a high dose can cause insomnia. Essential oils should be diluted in a carrier oil such as olive oil, almond oil, hazelnut oil, evening primrose oil, coconut oil, or wheat germ oil (if gluten is not an issue) for massaging.

4. Eucalyptus oil should not be ingested. Ingest larger amounts of Eucalyptus oil can cause gastrointestinal symptoms, which might be followed by central nervous system depression. Normal use for inhalation and skin exposure produce no or minimal symptoms.

5. Undiluted essential oils are never to be placed in the ear, eyes (even diluted), or nose. 6. Some ketones are neurotoxic, but not all. For example, the ketone content in Eucalyptus or Rosemary is relatively unproblematic. In some circumstances the so-call " toxic " constituents are the very ones that are needed of beneficial results such as the phenol thymol in Thyme oil, an extremely effective antiseptic and anti-fungal agent. So just be clear about what the treatments purpose are and use the oils with care.

7. For those with epilepsy or a tendency to seizure activity, it might be safer to avoid Sage, Rosemary, and Hyssop oils. These oils are rich in camphor - a natural chemical suspected to trigger seizures.Limin

www.healthbylimin.comYoung Living Distributor ID: 1111136

 

 

[Guest guest]

Oh Yes...no problem.

Thanks Tami

I'll check it out....but my daughter won't take anything "the King" has not ART tested her for ) I'll have to get a sample from one of you who is on it and make up a vial for her next visit )

Keep us posted!

Hugs, nancy

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:20 AM, TamiDuncan <Tamiduncanaol> wrote:

Got it...thanks for the clarification. is taking the YL supplement called Longevity right now. He seems to do very well with it. It has orange, clove and frankincense in it. It's supposed to protect from damaging diet and environment, supports brain function, cell regeneration, liver and immune function. So far so good!

Tami

In a message dated 01/07/10 11:14:11 Pacific Standard Time, nlberndtgmail writes:

Tami

My hint that we could diffuse the single cinnamon was that she puts tons of cinnamon in her unsweetened coconut milk or rice milk. I purchase a cinnamon powder from my co-op in San Francisco which has a high oil content and is very potent. She drinks it everyday....just loves it. I think it is so interesting as this will work against fungus in her gut and she gravitates toward it.I think I remember cinnamon as being good for sugar metabolism as well? Limin?

Limin mentions she just puts a drop of the Thieves in her egg nog over the holidays and it was absolutely delicious so we will start with a drop of the cinnamon oil fro Living Young as it is pure food grade of course and see how she does with that!!!! We are watching our sugar grams and the cinnamon alone without the sweeteners in eggnog is really yummy. ...also you can try the "Just Like Sugar" product that we have all been introduced to from your conference and add that and a drop of Thieves or plain cinnamon oil to either unsweetened coconut milk or rice milk. We do ok with soy so we use it in there occasionally.

I am having so much fun exploring with Living Young....

Hugs,

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:04 AM, nancy berndt <nlberndtgmail> wrote:

Tami

No the only thing she seems to react to in the Thieves is the Eucalyptus which is why I only diffuse the singles cinnamon and clove for mold (for now)

She tried the tooth paste and mouthwash and I think she reacts to the peppermint and the eucalyptus. So we have put those on hold.I love the tooth paste for myself and don't want to be without it. I don't use it right before I am going to drive her anywhere as she reacts to my breathe....yes my minty fresh breath!!!!! I can wash out the shower and toilets and then air out the room and she handles it ok after some time has passed. I do rinse the laundry in white vinegar because it neutralizes the smell of the Thieves and she is able to handle all laundry which has been boosted with Thieves as long as there is vinegar in the rinse cycle. Yes Tami she is very severe in her MCS and I think she will eventually be able to handle these products but for now we must go slow. I believe Suzan said her son could not handle them at first but she kept trying and now he is good with it. She even diffuses it.

Hugs,

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:43 AM, TamiDuncan <Tamiduncanaol> wrote:

...so Makayla is good with the scent of Thieves? She is so sensitive and I'm thinking if she can handle it, anyone can!

Tami

In a message dated 01/07/10 10:42:48 Pacific Standard Time, nlberndtgmail writes:

Limin

Thanks for this information......I was wondering if a drop or two of Thieves is an exception to the do not ingest Eucalyptus oil?

Eucalyptus oil is one that my daughter with MCS can not yet tolerate. I have used the cinnamon and clove as singles to diffuse for mold as the information from Young Living show each of these to be potent against mold on their own. This worked well for me as I diffused it in a room where I could smell mold around a window.I can no longer detect the smell.

I have been using the Thieves cleaner (one capful) in each laundry load to kill bacteria and mold in the wash. What I noticed is everything is coming out much cleaner than with my usual fragrance free natural laundry soap.....sometimes I have felt like I just can't get my laundry really clean without the chemicals.....not now. I love love love the Thieves for this safe boost for my laundry. I add some white vinegar to the rinse and my laundry is very clean and void of chemical. I also noticed since using the Thieves that the laundry is very soft even though I never use softeners of any kind.

I went over to my daughter's apartment and cleaned and diffused with Thieves. She lives in a SF apartment close to the ocean and mold can be a problem. I left her a bottle of the Thieves hand soap and she had a young guest over the holidays. Eden is three years old and she kept wanting to wash her hands constantly with the Thieves.Her mom was delighted as she normally has to coax her to wash hands. I don't blame Eden as I just adore the smell of Thieves hand soap.

I also left my daughter with a tin of the hard lozenges and the Thieves oil. I told her to suck on the lozenges and put a drop of Thieves on a piece of tissue and tuck into her bra.....because she is attending law school and everyone shows up in class sneezing and coughing.....no one wants to get behind but as a result ....lots of flu going around.

I love Thieves!!!!!!

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Limin Tseng <liminslett (DOT) net> wrote:

Essential oils are the most potent herbal medicines. However, when it comes to the nature, nothing is truly harmless. One needs to use the oils with knowledge and information of safety in mind. I am in my leaning process on this subject and would like to share with the group some safety notes I wrote down for myself.1. Do not use perfume grade or commercial grade oils, as they can contain synthetic chemicals therefore certain degree of toxicity. Use good quality, therapeutic grade essential oils only.2. Perfume grade or commercial grade oils might contain the residues of synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, or herbicides. Inhalation or massaging with contaminated oils can cause inflammation. Choose a brand of which the essential oils are distilled from wild-crafted or organically grown plants and herbs. 3. An essential oil may be both safe and toxic depending on the amount administered. For example, Lavender oil is sedative in low dose and promotes the body's production of serotonin, but a high dose can cause insomnia. Essential oils should be diluted in a carrier oil such as olive oil, almond oil, hazelnut oil, evening primrose oil, coconut oil, or wheat germ oil (if gluten is not an issue) for massaging. 4. Eucalyptus oil should not be ingested. Ingest larger amounts of Eucalyptus oil can cause gastrointestinal symptoms, which might be followed by central nervous system depression. Normal use for inhalation and skin exposure produce no or minimal symptoms. 5. Undiluted essential oils are never to be placed in the ear, eyes (even diluted), or nose. 6. Some ketones are neurotoxic, but not all. For example, the ketone content in Eucalyptus or Rosemary is relatively unproblematic. In some circumstances the so-call "toxic" constituents are the very ones that are needed of beneficial results such as the phenol thymol in Thyme oil, an extremely effective antiseptic and anti-fungal agent. So just be clear about what the treatments purpose are and use the oils with care.

7. For those with epilepsy or a tendency to seizure activity, it might be safer to avoid Sage, Rosemary, and Hyssop oils. These oils are rich in camphor - a natural chemical suspected to trigger seizures.Liminwww.healthbylimin.comYoung Living Distributor ID: 1111136

[Guest guest]

We love frankincense. My son responds well to massaging with frankincense. It is a great (brain) anti-inflammatory. I have an unopened bottle of clove - a very strong anti-oxidant. Clove is also anti-parasitic. Tami, keep us posted how responds to Longevity. Liminwww.healthbylimin.comYoung Living Distributor ID: 1111136Got it...thanks for the clarification. is taking the YL supplement called Longevity right now. He seems to do very well with it. It has orange, clove and frankincense in it. It's supposed to protect from damaging diet and environment, supports brain function, cell regeneration, liver and immune function. So far so good! Tami Tami My hint that we could diffuse the single cinnamon was that she puts tons of cinnamon in her unsweetened coconut milk or rice milk. I purchase a cinnamon powder from my co-op in San Francisco which has a high oil content and is very potent. She drinks it everyday....just loves it. I think it is so interesting as this will work against fungus in her gut and she gravitates toward it.I think I remember cinnamon as being good for sugar metabolism as well? Limin? Limin mentions she just puts a drop of the Thieves in her egg nog over the holidays and it was absolutely delicious so we will start with a drop of the cinnamon oil fro Living Young as it is pure food grade of course and see how she does with that!!!! We are watching our sugar grams and the cinnamon alone without the sweeteners in eggnog is really yummy. ...also you can try the "Just Like Sugar" product that we have all been introduced to from your conference and add that and a drop of Thieves or plain cinnamon oil to either unsweetened coconut milk or rice milk. We do ok with soy so we use it in there occasionally. I am having so much fun exploring with Living Young.... Hugs, On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:04 AM, nancy berndt <nlberndtgmail> wrote:Tami No the only thing she seems to react to in the Thieves is the Eucalyptus which is why I only diffuse the singles cinnamon and clove for mold (for now)She tried the tooth paste and mouthwash and I think she reacts to the peppermint and the eucalyptus. So we have put those on hold.I love the tooth paste for myself and don't want to be without it. I don't use it right before I am going to drive her anywhere as she reacts to my breathe....yes my minty fresh breath!!!!! I can wash out the shower and toilets and then air out the room and she handles it ok after some time has passed. I do rinse the laundry in white vinegar because it neutralizes the smell of the Thieves and she is able to handle all laundry which has been boosted with Thieves as long as there is vinegar in the rinse cycle. Yes Tami she is very severe in her MCS and I think she will eventually be able to handle these products but for now we must go slow. I believe Suzan said her son could not handle them at first but she kept trying and now he is good with it. She even diffuses it. Hugs, On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:43 AM, TamiDuncan <Tamiduncanaol> wrote: ...so Makayla is good with the scent of Thieves? She is so sensitive and I'm thinking if she can handle it, anyone can! Tami In a message dated 01/07/10 10:42:48 Pacific Standard Time, nlberndtgmail writes: Limin Thanks for this information......I was wondering if a drop or two of Thieves is an exception to the do not ingest Eucalyptus oil? Eucalyptus oil is one that my daughter with MCS can not yet tolerate. I have used the cinnamon and clove as singles to diffuse for mold as the information from Young Living show each of these to be potent against mold on their own. This worked well for me as I diffused it in a room where I could smell mold around a window.I can no longer detect the smell. I have been using the Thieves cleaner (one capful) in each laundry load to kill bacteria and mold in the wash. What I noticed is everything is coming out much cleaner than with my usual fragrance free natural laundry soap.....sometimes I have felt like I just can't get my laundry really clean without the chemicals.....not now. I love love love the Thieves for this safe boost for my laundry. I add some white vinegar to the rinse and my laundry is very clean and void of chemical. I also noticed since using the Thieves that the laundry is very soft even though I never use softeners of any kind. I went over to my daughter's apartment and cleaned and diffused with Thieves. She lives in a SF apartment close to the ocean and mold can be a problem. I left her a bottle of the Thieves hand soap and she had a young guest over the holidays. Eden is three years old and she kept wanting to wash her hands constantly with the Thieves.Her mom was delighted as she normally has to coax her to wash hands. I don't blame Eden as I just adore the smell of Thieves hand soap. I also left my daughter with a tin of the hard lozenges and the Thieves oil. I told her to suck on the lozenges and put a drop of Thieves on a piece of tissue and tuck into her bra.....because she is attending law school and everyone shows up in class sneezing and coughing.....no one wants to get behind but as a result ....lots of flu going around. I love Thieves!!!!!! On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Limin Tseng <liminslett (DOT) net> wrote: Essential oils are the most potent herbal medicines. However, when it comes to the nature, nothing is truly harmless. One needs to use the oils with knowledge and information of safety in mind. I am in my leaning process on this subject and would like to share with the group some safety notes I wrote down for myself.1. Do not use perfume grade or commercial grade oils, as they can contain synthetic chemicals therefore certain degree of toxicity. Use good quality, therapeutic grade essential oils only.2. Perfume grade or commercial grade oils might contain the residues of synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, or herbicides. Inhalation or massaging with contaminated oils can cause inflammation. Choose a brand of which the essential oils are distilled from wild-crafted or organically grown plants and herbs. 3. An essential oil may be both safe and toxic depending on the amount administered. For example, Lavender oil is sedative in low dose and promotes the body's production of serotonin, but a high dose can cause insomnia. Essential oils should be diluted in a carrier oil such as olive oil, almond oil, hazelnut oil, evening primrose oil, coconut oil, or wheat germ oil (if gluten is not an issue) for massaging. 4. Eucalyptus oil should not be ingested. Ingest larger amounts of Eucalyptus oil can cause gastrointestinal symptoms, which might be followed by central nervous system depression. Normal use for inhalation and skin exposure produce no or minimal symptoms. 5. Undiluted essential oils are never to be placed in the ear, eyes (even diluted), or nose. 6. Some ketones are neurotoxic, but not all. For example, the ketone content in Eucalyptus or Rosemary is relatively unproblematic. In some circumstances the so-call "toxic" constituents are the very ones that are needed of beneficial results such as the phenol thymol in Thyme oil, an extremely effective antiseptic and anti-fungal agent. So just be clear about what the treatments purpose are and use the oils with care. 7. For those with epilepsy or a tendency to seizure activity, it might be safer to avoid Sage, Rosemary, and Hyssop oils. These oils are rich in camphor - a natural chemical suspected to trigger seizures.Liminwww.healthbylimin.comYoung Living Distributor ID: 1111136

[Guest guest]

,Young Living does not recommend oral ingestion of Eucalyptus single. But Thieves essential oil blend as well as Inner Defense which contains Thieves blend are recommended for dietary consumption. Eucalyptus oil is used commonly as a decongestant and expectorant for upper respiratory tract infections or inflammations, as well as for various musculoskeletal conditions. The oil is found in numerous over-the-counter cough and cold lozenges as well as in inhalation vapors or topical ointments. In the case of Eucalyptus oil, what makes it toxic is high dosage. When the oil is single, it contains70 - 85%1,8-cineole (eucalyptol). This is a highly concentrated percentage, and the oil should only be used topically or for inhalation, not for oral ingestion. In an oil blend, take Thieves for example, eucalyptol in Thieves is much less concentrated, as Thieves contains 5 different oils. Eucalyptol is anti-oxidant, anti-microbial, and works synergistically with other phytochemistries in Clove, Lemon, Cinnamon, and Rosemary in Thieves.I also like Thieves a lot. I once came down with flu and cold and still went to a local OT clinic for attending a few hours of presentation. I dripped a drop of Thieves oil on the back of my hand and licked it up, and did this a couple of times during the presentation. One of the OTs there gave me a foot massage with Thieves oil after the meeting. I felt much better after the massage. All my symptoms of flu and cold were gone the next day.Liminwww.healthbylimin.comYoung Living Distributor ID: 1111136Limin Thanks for this information......I was wondering if a drop or two of Thieves is an exception to the do not ingest Eucalyptus oil? Eucalyptus oil is one that my daughter with MCS can not yet tolerate. I have used the cinnamon and clove as singles to diffuse for mold as the information from Young Living show each of these to be potent against mold on their own. This worked well for me as I diffused it in a room where I could smell mold around a window.I can no longer detect the smell. I have been using the Thieves cleaner (one capful) in each laundry load to kill bacteria and mold in the wash. What I noticed is everything is coming out much cleaner than with my usual fragrance free natural laundry soap.....sometimes I have felt like I just can't get my laundry really clean without the chemicals.....not now. I love love love the Thieves for this safe boost for my laundry. I add some white vinegar to the rinse and my laundry is very clean and void of chemical. I also noticed since using the Thieves that the laundry is very soft even though I never use softeners of any kind. I went over to my daughter's apartment and cleaned and diffused with Thieves. She lives in a SF apartment close to the ocean and mold can be a problem. I left her a bottle of the Thieves hand soap and she had a young guest over the holidays. Eden is three years old and she kept wanting to wash her hands constantly with the Thieves.Her mom was delighted as she normally has to coax her to wash hands. I don't blame Eden as I just adore the smell of Thieves hand soap. I also left my daughter with a tin of the hard lozenges and the Thieves oil. I told her to suck on the lozenges and put a drop of Thieves on a piece of tissue and tuck into her bra.....because she is attending law school and everyone shows up in class sneezing and coughing.....no one wants to get behind but as a result ....lots of flu going around. I love Thieves!!!!!! Essential oils are the most potent herbal medicines. However, when it comes to the nature, nothing is truly harmless. One needs to use the oils with knowledge and information of safety in mind. I am in my leaning process on this subject and would like to share with the group some safety notes I wrote down for myself.1. Do not use perfume grade or commercial grade oils, as they can contain synthetic chemicals therefore certain degree of toxicity. Use good quality, therapeutic grade essential oils only.2. Perfume grade or commercial grade oils might contain the residues of synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, or herbicides. Inhalation or massaging with contaminated oils can cause inflammation. Choose a brand of which the essential oils are distilled from wild-crafted or organically grown plants and herbs. 3. An essential oil may be both safe and toxic depending on the amount administered. For example, Lavender oil is sedative in low dose and promotes the body's production of serotonin, but a high dose can cause insomnia. Essential oils should be diluted in a carrier oil such as olive oil, almond oil, hazelnut oil, evening primrose oil, coconut oil, or wheat germ oil (if gluten is not an issue) for massaging. 4. Eucalyptus oil should not be ingested. Ingest larger amounts of Eucalyptus oil can cause gastrointestinal symptoms, which might be followed by central nervous system depression. Normal use for inhalation and skin exposure produce no or minimal symptoms. 5. Undiluted essential oils are never to be placed in the ear, eyes (even diluted), or nose. 6. Some ketones are neurotoxic, but not all. For example, the ketone content in Eucalyptus or Rosemary is relatively unproblematic. In some circumstances the so-call "toxic" constituents are the very ones that are needed of beneficial results such as the phenol thymol in Thyme oil, an extremely effective antiseptic and anti-fungal agent. So just be clear about what the treatments purpose are and use the oils with care.7. For those with epilepsy or a tendency to seizure activity, it might be safer to avoid Sage, Rosemary, and Hyssop oils. These oils are rich in camphor - a natural chemical suspected to trigger seizures.Liminwww.healthbylimin.comYoung Living Distributor ID: 1111136

[Guest guest]

Limin

 

Good Morning

Did you read in Connie's book where Dr. LC recommended clove oil for Bartonella? I was going to double check but I believe he listed it along with HH. I believe he mentions clove bud oil?

 

Hugs,

 

We love frankincense.  My son responds well to massaging with frankincense.  It is  a great (brain) anti-inflammatory.  I have an unopened bottle of clove - a very strong anti-oxidant.  Clove is also anti-parasitic.  

Tami, keep us posted how responds to Longevity.  

Limin

www.healthbylimin.com

Young Living Distributor ID:  1111136

Got it...thanks for the clarification.  is taking the YL supplement called Longevity right now.  He seems to do very well with it.  It has orange, clove and frankincense in it.  It's supposed to protect from damaging diet and environment, supports brain function, cell regeneration, liver and immune function.   So far so good! 

 

Tami

 

 

 

In a message dated 01/07/10 11:14:11 Pacific Standard Time, nlberndt@... writes:

Tami

 

My hint that we could diffuse the single cinnamon was that she puts tons of cinnamon in her unsweetened coconut milk or rice milk. I purchase a cinnamon powder from my co-op in San Francisco which has a high oil content and is very potent. She drinks it everyday....just loves it. I think it is so interesting as this will work against fungus in her gut and she gravitates toward it.I think I remember cinnamon as being good for sugar metabolism as well? Limin?

 

Limin mentions she just puts a drop of the Thieves in her egg nog over the holidays and it was absolutely delicious so we will start with a drop of the cinnamon oil fro Living Young as it is pure food grade of course and see how she does with that!!!! We are watching our sugar grams and the cinnamon alone without the sweeteners in eggnog is really yummy. ...also you can try the " Just Like Sugar " product that we have all been introduced to from your conference and add that and a drop of Thieves or plain cinnamon oil to either unsweetened coconut milk or rice milk. We do ok with soy so we use it in there occasionally.

 

I am having so much fun exploring with Living Young....

 

Hugs,

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:04 AM, nancy berndt  wrote:

Tami

 

No the only thing she seems to react to in the Thieves is the Eucalyptus which is why I only diffuse the singles cinnamon and clove for mold (for now)

She tried the tooth paste and mouthwash and I think she reacts to the peppermint and the eucalyptus. So we have put those on hold.I love the tooth paste for myself and don't want to be without it. I don't use it right before I am going to drive her anywhere as she reacts to my breathe....yes my minty fresh breath!!!!! I can wash out the shower and toilets and then air out the room and she handles it ok after some time has passed. I do rinse the laundry in white vinegar because it neutralizes the smell of the Thieves and she is able to handle all laundry which has been boosted with Thieves as long as there is vinegar in the rinse cycle. Yes Tami she is very severe in her MCS and I think she will eventually be able to handle these products but for now we must go slow. I believe Suzan said her son could not handle them at first but she kept trying and now he is good with it. She even diffuses it.

 

Hugs,

 

 

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:43 AM, TamiDuncan  wrote:

 

...so Makayla is good with the scent of Thieves?   She is so sensitive and I'm thinking if she can handle it, anyone can!

 

Tami

 

 

 

In a message dated 01/07/10 10:42:48 Pacific Standard Time, nlberndt@... writes:

 

Limin

 

Thanks for this information......I was wondering if a drop or two of Thieves is an exception to the do not ingest Eucalyptus oil?

 

Eucalyptus oil is one that my daughter with MCS can not yet tolerate. I have used the cinnamon and clove as singles to diffuse for mold as the information from Young Living show each of these to be potent against mold on their own. This worked well for me as I diffused it in a room where I could smell mold around a window.I can no longer detect the smell.

 

I have been using the Thieves cleaner (one capful) in each laundry load to kill bacteria and mold in the wash. What I noticed is everything is coming out much cleaner than with my usual fragrance free natural laundry soap.....sometimes I have felt like I just can't get my laundry really clean without the chemicals.....not now. I love love love the Thieves for this safe boost for my laundry. I add some white vinegar to the rinse and my laundry is very clean and void of chemical. I also noticed since using the Thieves that the laundry is very soft even though I never use softeners of any kind.

 

I went over to my daughter's apartment and cleaned and diffused with Thieves. She lives in a SF apartment close to the ocean and mold can be a problem. I left her a bottle of the Thieves hand soap and she had a young guest over the holidays. Eden is three years old and she kept wanting to wash her hands constantly with the Thieves.Her mom was delighted as she normally has to coax her to wash hands. I don't blame Eden as I just adore the smell of Thieves hand soap.

 

I also left my daughter with a tin of the hard lozenges and the Thieves oil. I told her to suck on the lozenges and put a drop of Thieves on a piece of tissue and tuck into her bra.....because she is attending law school and everyone shows up in class sneezing and coughing.....no one wants to get behind but as a result ....lots of flu going around.

 

I love Thieves!!!!!!

 

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Limin Tseng  wrote:

 

Essential oils are the most potent herbal medicines. However, when it comes to the nature, nothing is truly harmless. One needs to use the oils with knowledge and information of safety in mind. I am in my leaning process on this subject and would like to share with the group some safety notes I wrote down for myself.

1. Do not use perfume grade or commercial grade oils, as they can contain synthetic chemicals therefore certain degree of toxicity. Use good quality, therapeutic grade essential oils only.2. Perfume grade or commercial grade oils might contain the residues of synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, or herbicides. Inhalation or massaging with contaminated oils can cause inflammation. Choose a brand of which the essential oils are distilled from wild-crafted or organically grown plants and herbs. 

3. An essential oil may be both safe and toxic depending on the amount administered. For example, Lavender oil is sedative in low dose and promotes the body's production of serotonin, but a high dose can cause insomnia. Essential oils should be diluted in a carrier oil such as olive oil, almond oil, hazelnut oil, evening primrose oil, coconut oil, or wheat germ oil (if gluten is not an issue) for massaging. 

4. Eucalyptus oil should not be ingested. Ingest larger amounts of Eucalyptus oil can cause gastrointestinal symptoms, which might be followed by central nervous system depression. Normal use for inhalation and skin exposure produce no or minimal symptoms. 

5. Undiluted essential oils are never to be placed in the ear, eyes (even diluted), or nose. 6. Some ketones are neurotoxic, but not all. For example, the ketone content in Eucalyptus or Rosemary is relatively unproblematic. In some circumstances the so-call " toxic " constituents are the very ones that are needed of beneficial results such as the phenol thymol in Thyme oil, an extremely effective antiseptic and anti-fungal agent. So just be clear about what the treatments purpose are and use the oils with care. 

7. For those with epilepsy or a tendency to seizure activity, it might be safer to avoid Sage, Rosemary, and Hyssop oils. These oils are rich in camphor - a natural chemical suspected to trigger seizures.Limin

www.healthbylimin.comYoung Living Distributor ID: 1111136

 

 

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,I had read a few chapters of Connie's book, and then I could not find the book anywhere. It is probably somewhere in the house. I guess it's time for me to clean up the house, or I can just sit tight in front of my computer waiting for it to show up. ;-)Dr. JS also mentions in his book to use Clove Bud Oil together with Dr. Zhang's HH to kill Bartonella. After I read this, I purchased both supplements (Clove Bud Oil from Premier Research Labs), but at that time my son still could not swallow pills, I could not give these to him. Dr. Zhang's HH smells and tastes quite nasty when mixed in water and juice. Now that my son can swallow pills, perhaps I should encapsulate clove bud oil and give it to him together with HH capsules. Does anyone know a source where I can order the tray and vegetable capsules for encapsulating supplements in liquid and powder forms? Thanks.Liminwww.healthbylimin.comYoung Living Distributor ID: 1111136Limin Good MorningDid you read in Connie's book where Dr. LC recommended clove oil for Bartonella? I was going to double check but I believe he listed it along with HH. I believe he mentions clove bud oil? Hugs, We love frankincense. My son responds well to massaging with frankincense. It is a great (brain) anti-inflammatory. I have an unopened bottle of clove - a very strong anti-oxidant. Clove is also anti-parasitic. Tami, keep us posted how responds to Longevity. Liminwww.healthbylimin.comYoung Living Distributor ID: 1111136Got it...thanks for the clarification. is taking the YL supplement called Longevity right now. He seems to do very well with it. It has orange, clove and frankincense in it. It's supposed to protect from damaging diet and environment, supports brain function, cell regeneration, liver and immune function. So far so good! Tami Tami My hint that we could diffuse the single cinnamon was that she puts tons of cinnamon in her unsweetened coconut milk or rice milk. I purchase a cinnamon powder from my co-op in San Francisco which has a high oil content and is very potent. She drinks it everyday....just loves it. I think it is so interesting as this will work against fungus in her gut and she gravitates toward it.I think I remember cinnamon as being good for sugar metabolism as well? Limin? Limin mentions she just puts a drop of the Thieves in her egg nog over the holidays and it was absolutely delicious so we will start with a drop of the cinnamon oil fro Living Young as it is pure food grade of course and see how she does with that!!!! We are watching our sugar grams and the cinnamon alone without the sweeteners in eggnog is really yummy. ...also you can try the "Just Like Sugar" product that we have all been introduced to from your conference and add that and a drop of Thieves or plain cinnamon oil to either unsweetened coconut milk or rice milk. We do ok with soy so we use it in there occasionally. I am having so much fun exploring with Living Young.... Hugs, Tami No the only thing she seems to react to in the Thieves is the Eucalyptus which is why I only diffuse the singles cinnamon and clove for mold (for now)She tried the tooth paste and mouthwash and I think she reacts to the peppermint and the eucalyptus. So we have put those on hold.I love the tooth paste for myself and don't want to be without it. I don't use it right before I am going to drive her anywhere as she reacts to my breathe....yes my minty fresh breath!!!!! I can wash out the shower and toilets and then air out the room and she handles it ok after some time has passed. I do rinse the laundry in white vinegar because it neutralizes the smell of the Thieves and she is able to handle all laundry which has been boosted with Thieves as long as there is vinegar in the rinse cycle. Yes Tami she is very severe in her MCS and I think she will eventually be able to handle these products but for now we must go slow. I believe Suzan said her son could not handle them at first but she kept trying and now he is good with it. She even diffuses it. Hugs, ...so Makayla is good with the scent of Thieves? She is so sensitive and I'm thinking if she can handle it, anyone can! Tami Limin Thanks for this information......I was wondering if a drop or two of Thieves is an exception to the do not ingest Eucalyptus oil? Eucalyptus oil is one that my daughter with MCS can not yet tolerate. I have used the cinnamon and clove as singles to diffuse for mold as the information from Young Living show each of these to be potent against mold on their own. This worked well for me as I diffused it in a room where I could smell mold around a window.I can no longer detect the smell. I have been using the Thieves cleaner (one capful) in each laundry load to kill bacteria and mold in the wash. What I noticed is everything is coming out much cleaner than with my usual fragrance free natural laundry soap.....sometimes I have felt like I just can't get my laundry really clean without the chemicals.....not now. I love love love the Thieves for this safe boost for my laundry. I add some white vinegar to the rinse and my laundry is very clean and void of chemical. I also noticed since using the Thieves that the laundry is very soft even though I never use softeners of any kind. I went over to my daughter's apartment and cleaned and diffused with Thieves. She lives in a SF apartment close to the ocean and mold can be a problem. I left her a bottle of the Thieves hand soap and she had a young guest over the holidays. Eden is three years old and she kept wanting to wash her hands constantly with the Thieves.Her mom was delighted as she normally has to coax her to wash hands. I don't blame Eden as I just adore the smell of Thieves hand soap. I also left my daughter with a tin of the hard lozenges and the Thieves oil. I told her to suck on the lozenges and put a drop of Thieves on a piece of tissue and tuck into her bra.....because she is attending law school and everyone shows up in class sneezing and coughing.....no one wants to get behind but as a result ....lots of flu going around. I love Thieves!!!!!! Essential oils are the most potent herbal medicines. However, when it comes to the nature, nothing is truly harmless. One needs to use the oils with knowledge and information of safety in mind. I am in my leaning process on this subject and would like to share with the group some safety notes I wrote down for myself.1. Do not use perfume grade or commercial grade oils, as they can contain synthetic chemicals therefore certain degree of toxicity. Use good quality, therapeutic grade essential oils only.2. Perfume grade or commercial grade oils might contain the residues of synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, or herbicides. Inhalation or massaging with contaminated oils can cause inflammation. Choose a brand of which the essential oils are distilled from wild-crafted or organically grown plants and herbs. 3. An essential oil may be both safe and toxic depending on the amount administered. For example, Lavender oil is sedative in low dose and promotes the body's production of serotonin, but a high dose can cause insomnia. Essential oils should be diluted in a carrier oil such as olive oil, almond oil, hazelnut oil, evening primrose oil, coconut oil, or wheat germ oil (if gluten is not an issue) for massaging. 4. Eucalyptus oil should not be ingested. Ingest larger amounts of Eucalyptus oil can cause gastrointestinal symptoms, which might be followed by central nervous system depression. Normal use for inhalation and skin exposure produce no or minimal symptoms. 5. Undiluted essential oils are never to be placed in the ear, eyes (even diluted), or nose. 6. Some ketones are neurotoxic, but not all. For example, the ketone content in Eucalyptus or Rosemary is relatively unproblematic. In some circumstances the so-call "toxic" constituents are the very ones that are needed of beneficial results such as the phenol thymol in Thyme oil, an extremely effective antiseptic and anti-fungal agent. So just be clear about what the treatments purpose are and use the oils with care. 7. For those with epilepsy or a tendency to seizure activity, it might be safer to avoid Sage, Rosemary, and Hyssop oils. These oils are rich in camphor - a natural chemical suspected to trigger seizures.Liminwww.healthbylimin.comYoung Living Distributor ID: 1111136

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Limin

 

Back when we were doing the salt/c protocol for Lyme. We capped lots and lots of capsules by hand. Just order the veggie caps on line. It is not hard to pull them apart and put them back together.

 

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I had read a few chapters of Connie's book, and then I could not find the book anywhere.  It is probably somewhere in the house.  I guess it's time for me to clean up the house, or I can just sit tight in front of my computer waiting for it to show up. ;-)

Dr. JS also mentions in his book to use Clove Bud Oil together with Dr. Zhang's HH to kill Bartonella.  After I read this, I purchased both supplements (Clove Bud Oil from Premier Research Labs), but at that time my son still could not swallow pills, I could not give these to him.  Dr. Zhang's HH smells and tastes quite nasty when mixed in water and juice.  Now that my son can swallow pills, perhaps I should encapsulate clove bud oil and give it to him together with HH capsules.  

Does anyone know a source where I can order the tray and vegetable capsules for encapsulating supplements in liquid and powder forms?  Thanks.

Limin

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Limin

 

Good Morning

Did you read in Connie's book where Dr. LC recommended clove oil for Bartonella? I was going to double check but I believe he listed it along with HH. I believe he mentions clove bud oil?

 

Hugs,

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Limin Tseng  wrote:

 

We love frankincense.  My son responds well to massaging with frankincense.  It is  a great (brain) anti-inflammatory.  I have an unopened bottle of clove - a very strong anti-oxidant.  Clove is also anti-parasitic.  

Tami, keep us posted how responds to Longevity.  

Limin

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Got it...thanks for the clarification.  is taking the YL supplement called Longevity right now.  He seems to do very well with it.  It has orange, clove and frankincense in it.  It's supposed to protect from damaging diet and environment, supports brain function, cell regeneration, liver and immune function.   So far so good! 

 

Tami

 

 

 

In a message dated 01/07/10 11:14:11 Pacific Standard Time, nlberndt@... writes:

Tami

 

My hint that we could diffuse the single cinnamon was that she puts tons of cinnamon in her unsweetened coconut milk or rice milk. I purchase a cinnamon powder from my co-op in San Francisco which has a high oil content and is very potent. She drinks it everyday....just loves it. I think it is so interesting as this will work against fungus in her gut and she gravitates toward it.I think I remember cinnamon as being good for sugar metabolism as well? Limin?

 

Limin mentions she just puts a drop of the Thieves in her egg nog over the holidays and it was absolutely delicious so we will start with a drop of the cinnamon oil fro Living Young as it is pure food grade of course and see how she does with that!!!! We are watching our sugar grams and the cinnamon alone without the sweeteners in eggnog is really yummy. ...also you can try the " Just Like Sugar " product that we have all been introduced to from your conference and add that and a drop of Thieves or plain cinnamon oil to either unsweetened coconut milk or rice milk. We do ok with soy so we use it in there occasionally.

 

I am having so much fun exploring with Living Young....

 

Hugs,

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:04 AM, nancy berndt  wrote:

Tami

 

No the only thing she seems to react to in the Thieves is the Eucalyptus which is why I only diffuse the singles cinnamon and clove for mold (for now)

She tried the tooth paste and mouthwash and I think she reacts to the peppermint and the eucalyptus. So we have put those on hold.I love the tooth paste for myself and don't want to be without it. I don't use it right before I am going to drive her anywhere as she reacts to my breathe....yes my minty fresh breath!!!!! I can wash out the shower and toilets and then air out the room and she handles it ok after some time has passed. I do rinse the laundry in white vinegar because it neutralizes the smell of the Thieves and she is able to handle all laundry which has been boosted with Thieves as long as there is vinegar in the rinse cycle. Yes Tami she is very severe in her MCS and I think she will eventually be able to handle these products but for now we must go slow. I believe Suzan said her son could not handle them at first but she kept trying and now he is good with it. She even diffuses it.

 

Hugs,

 

 

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:43 AM, TamiDuncan  wrote:

 

...so Makayla is good with the scent of Thieves?   She is so sensitive and I'm thinking if she can handle it, anyone can!

 

Tami

 

 

 

In a message dated 01/07/10 10:42:48 Pacific Standard Time, nlberndt@... writes:

 

Limin

 

Thanks for this information......I was wondering if a drop or two of Thieves is an exception to the do not ingest Eucalyptus oil?

 

Eucalyptus oil is one that my daughter with MCS can not yet tolerate. I have used the cinnamon and clove as singles to diffuse for mold as the information from Young Living show each of these to be potent against mold on their own. This worked well for me as I diffused it in a room where I could smell mold around a window.I can no longer detect the smell.

 

I have been using the Thieves cleaner (one capful) in each laundry load to kill bacteria and mold in the wash. What I noticed is everything is coming out much cleaner than with my usual fragrance free natural laundry soap.....sometimes I have felt like I just can't get my laundry really clean without the chemicals.....not now. I love love love the Thieves for this safe boost for my laundry. I add some white vinegar to the rinse and my laundry is very clean and void of chemical. I also noticed since using the Thieves that the laundry is very soft even though I never use softeners of any kind.

 

I went over to my daughter's apartment and cleaned and diffused with Thieves. She lives in a SF apartment close to the ocean and mold can be a problem. I left her a bottle of the Thieves hand soap and she had a young guest over the holidays. Eden is three years old and she kept wanting to wash her hands constantly with the Thieves.Her mom was delighted as she normally has to coax her to wash hands. I don't blame Eden as I just adore the smell of Thieves hand soap.

 

I also left my daughter with a tin of the hard lozenges and the Thieves oil. I told her to suck on the lozenges and put a drop of Thieves on a piece of tissue and tuck into her bra.....because she is attending law school and everyone shows up in class sneezing and coughing.....no one wants to get behind but as a result ....lots of flu going around.

 

I love Thieves!!!!!!

 

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Limin Tseng  wrote:

 

Essential oils are the most potent herbal medicines. However, when it comes to the nature, nothing is truly harmless. One needs to use the oils with knowledge and information of safety in mind. I am in my leaning process on this subject and would like to share with the group some safety notes I wrote down for myself.

1. Do not use perfume grade or commercial grade oils, as they can contain synthetic chemicals therefore certain degree of toxicity. Use good quality, therapeutic grade essential oils only.2. Perfume grade or commercial grade oils might contain the residues of synthetic fertilizers, pesticides, or herbicides. Inhalation or massaging with contaminated oils can cause inflammation. Choose a brand of which the essential oils are distilled from wild-crafted or organically grown plants and herbs. 

3. An essential oil may be both safe and toxic depending on the amount administered. For example, Lavender oil is sedative in low dose and promotes the body's production of serotonin, but a high dose can cause insomnia. Essential oils should be diluted in a carrier oil such as olive oil, almond oil, hazelnut oil, evening primrose oil, coconut oil, or wheat germ oil (if gluten is not an issue) for massaging. 

4. Eucalyptus oil should not be ingested. Ingest larger amounts of Eucalyptus oil can cause gastrointestinal symptoms, which might be followed by central nervous system depression. Normal use for inhalation and skin exposure produce no or minimal symptoms. 

5. Undiluted essential oils are never to be placed in the ear, eyes (even diluted), or nose. 6. Some ketones are neurotoxic, but not all. For example, the ketone content in Eucalyptus or Rosemary is relatively unproblematic. In some circumstances the so-call " toxic " constituents are the very ones that are needed of beneficial results such as the phenol thymol in Thyme oil, an extremely effective antiseptic and anti-fungal agent. So just be clear about what the treatments purpose are and use the oils with care. 

7. For those with epilepsy or a tendency to seizure activity, it might be safer to avoid Sage, Rosemary, and Hyssop oils. These oils are rich in camphor - a natural chemical suspected to trigger seizures.Limin

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