Guest guest Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 I have used OA for the last year. The practice mx and billing software is free. Works well. tech support is good, although I just switched to expIorer 8 and the screen is not quite right but functional. I have not used practice mx software except for bits and pieces of it because I hate entering data. It is quite a seditive. But have been shown how it works. I get my eob from medicare on OA then apply to charts if I want. OA really makes billing simple. I also use their EHR and e script. They have a secure pt portal for appointments, pt to get labs, contact me and e visits. Cost $60 per month, web base which I am thank for since I can pull up anywhere, even iphone. They also have now an appt calling reminder service for $50/mo but I am not using it. I send out my own email each evening. I suppose I could save $60/mo if I switch to practice fusion But since I am saving the biller costs maybe it makes up the difference. OA is coming out w new version this april or may. I am not sure why OA is not more popular. , I am still using the MacPractice practice management software that I have been using for the past 3-4 years. I have a part-time biller who gets the job done, but I am debating whether I should go with an online billing service that integrates with Practice Fusion instead. I'd have to crunch the numbers to see which method works out best financially. Maybe others using Practice Fusion will share how they do billing. can give you her thoughts on Office Ally. Good luck with opening your practice! Seto South Pasadena, CA I agree with on this issue.Also, FYI, I spoke with a Practice Fusion rep. a couple of weeks ago, who affirmed that even though PF may in the future sell the de-personalized data to third parties, they have not done so yet, not once (so I was told). We are opening our practice in early May and are about to pick our EMR. It seems we will first go with either PF or the Office Ally suite. I'd like to ask and other PF users what practice management/billing software you use? I looked into the Kareo software that PF just partnered with (seamless transfer of info between the two softwares), and am wondering what are the best PM/billing software to use with PF? Any comment on this would be very welcome. Thank you, BreuvartMarfa Country ClinicPO Box 368Marfa, Texas 79843> > > > I was aware of Practice Fusion's practice of selling de-identified data as another revenue source before I signed on with them. After doing research into the subject I felt reassured that they would not sell any Personal Health Information to any third parties, which would be a HIPAA violation. I felt that it was no worse than other companies and industries that already sell data for money, such as financial companies or even the AMA which sells physician prescribing data: > > http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/354/26/2745> > > > > > Did you get a written assurance that no personal health information would be sold? > > > > I have no evidence for it, but I would not be surprised if other EMR companies also sell data to third parties.> > > > They can only do that if they have your data and most don't. > > > > > > While it would be ideal (for physicians) for Practice Fusion not to sell any data and give away its services for free, I understand that there is no such thing as a free lunch, and that they need some way to generate income in order to continue to improve and maintain the product. > > > > > > They could actually charge appropriately for the service.> > > > > > Graham, I think your statement: " ... and they do not deny selling your patient data ... de-identified or not. " is inaccurate and suggests that Practice Fusion sells data that has not been de-identified. On the contrary, Practice Fusion states that they double-scrub their data of any personal identifiers before releasing it: > > > > What I meant by that is that it has been shown that deidentified data can be re-identified. I previously posted a link to a paper on the subject.> > > > Graham, what EMR would you recommend? > > > > > > I have no significant experience outside of my own EMR.> > > > In my recent talk, I made no recommendations except buyer beware.> > > > > > -- > > Graham Chiu> > http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/> > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR.> > > >> -- M.D.www.elainemd.comOffice: Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined. This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal information. 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Guest guest Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Elaine, You say: I have not used practice mx software except for bits and pieces of it because I hate entering data. Are you saying that the EHR and practice mx do not share the patients information? (do you need to re-enter the patients demographics in the practice mx even though you've already entered it in the EHR?). . > > > > > > > > I was aware of Practice Fusion's practice of selling de-identified data > > as another revenue source before I signed on with them. After doing research > > into the subject I felt reassured that they would not sell any Personal > > Health Information to any third parties, which would be a HIPAA violation. I > > felt that it was no worse than other companies and industries that already > > sell data for money, such as financial companies or even the AMA which sells > > physician prescribing data: > > > > http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/354/26/2745 > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you get a written assurance that no personal health information > > would be sold? > > > > > > > > I have no evidence for it, but I would not be surprised if other EMR > > companies also sell data to third parties. > > > > > > > > They can only do that if they have your data and most don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > While it would be ideal (for physicians) for Practice Fusion not to > > sell any data and give away its services for free, I understand that there > > is no such thing as a free lunch, and that they need some way to generate > > income in order to continue to improve and maintain the product. > > > > > > > > > > > > They could actually charge appropriately for the service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Graham, I think your statement: " ... and they do not deny selling your > > patient data ... de-identified or not. " is inaccurate and suggests that > > Practice Fusion sells data that has not been de-identified. On the contrary, > > Practice Fusion states that they double-scrub their data of any personal > > identifiers before releasing it: > > > > > > > > What I meant by that is that it has been shown that deidentified data > > can be re-identified. I previously posted a link to a paper on the subject. > > > > > > > > Graham, what EMR would you recommend? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no significant experience outside of my own EMR. > > > > > > > > In my recent talk, I made no recommendations except buyer beware. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Graham Chiu > > > > http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/ > > > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > M.D. > www.elainemd.com > Office: > Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined. > This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly > confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal > information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual > or entity named above. > > > > If you are not the intended recipient of this material, you may not use, > publish, discuss, disseminate or otherwise distribute it. If you are not the > intended recipient, or if you have received this transmission in error, > please notify the sender immediately and confidentially destroy the > information that email in error. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Elaine, You say: I have not used practice mx software except for bits and pieces of it because I hate entering data. Are you saying that the EHR and practice mx do not share the patients information? (do you need to re-enter the patients demographics in the practice mx even though you've already entered it in the EHR?). . > > > > > > > > I was aware of Practice Fusion's practice of selling de-identified data > > as another revenue source before I signed on with them. After doing research > > into the subject I felt reassured that they would not sell any Personal > > Health Information to any third parties, which would be a HIPAA violation. I > > felt that it was no worse than other companies and industries that already > > sell data for money, such as financial companies or even the AMA which sells > > physician prescribing data: > > > > http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/354/26/2745 > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you get a written assurance that no personal health information > > would be sold? > > > > > > > > I have no evidence for it, but I would not be surprised if other EMR > > companies also sell data to third parties. > > > > > > > > They can only do that if they have your data and most don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > While it would be ideal (for physicians) for Practice Fusion not to > > sell any data and give away its services for free, I understand that there > > is no such thing as a free lunch, and that they need some way to generate > > income in order to continue to improve and maintain the product. > > > > > > > > > > > > They could actually charge appropriately for the service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Graham, I think your statement: " ... and they do not deny selling your > > patient data ... de-identified or not. " is inaccurate and suggests that > > Practice Fusion sells data that has not been de-identified. On the contrary, > > Practice Fusion states that they double-scrub their data of any personal > > identifiers before releasing it: > > > > > > > > What I meant by that is that it has been shown that deidentified data > > can be re-identified. I previously posted a link to a paper on the subject. > > > > > > > > Graham, what EMR would you recommend? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no significant experience outside of my own EMR. > > > > > > > > In my recent talk, I made no recommendations except buyer beware. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Graham Chiu > > > > http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/ > > > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > M.D. > www.elainemd.com > Office: > Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined. > This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly > confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal > information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual > or entity named above. > > > > If you are not the intended recipient of this material, you may not use, > publish, discuss, disseminate or otherwise distribute it. If you are not the > intended recipient, or if you have received this transmission in error, > please notify the sender immediately and confidentially destroy the > information that email in error. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 No I have to enter the numbers when the checks come in to practice mx. I suppose I should do it but I feel more comfortable w paper. I had the training course but w all the accounting terms, the guy from OA said he could not teach me unless I understood these acct terms. he thouhgt I was a waste of his time. I never pursued it from there Elaine,You say: I have not used practice mx software except for bits and pieces of it because I hate entering data.Are you saying that the EHR and practice mx do not share the patients information? (do you need to re-enter the patients demographics in the practice mx even though you've already entered it in the EHR?). . > > > >> > > > I was aware of Practice Fusion's practice of selling de-identified data> > as another revenue source before I signed on with them. After doing research> > into the subject I felt reassured that they would not sell any Personal > > Health Information to any third parties, which would be a HIPAA violation. I> > felt that it was no worse than other companies and industries that already> > sell data for money, such as financial companies or even the AMA which sells > > physician prescribing data:> > > > http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/354/26/2745> > > > > > > >> > > > Did you get a written assurance that no personal health information> > would be sold?> > > >> > > > I have no evidence for it, but I would not be surprised if other EMR > > companies also sell data to third parties.> > > >> > > > They can only do that if they have your data and most don't.> > > >> > > >> > > > While it would be ideal (for physicians) for Practice Fusion not to > > sell any data and give away its services for free, I understand that there> > is no such thing as a free lunch, and that they need some way to generate> > income in order to continue to improve and maintain the product. > > > >> > > >> > > > They could actually charge appropriately for the service.> > > >> > > >> > > > Graham, I think your statement: " ... and they do not deny selling your > > patient data ... de-identified or not. " is inaccurate and suggests that> > Practice Fusion sells data that has not been de-identified. On the contrary,> > Practice Fusion states that they double-scrub their data of any personal > > identifiers before releasing it:> > > >> > > > What I meant by that is that it has been shown that deidentified data> > can be re-identified. I previously posted a link to a paper on the subject. > > > >> > > > Graham, what EMR would you recommend?> > > >> > > >> > > > I have no significant experience outside of my own EMR.> > > > > > > > In my recent talk, I made no recommendations except buyer beware.> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > Graham Chiu> > > > http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/ > > > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR.> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > M.D.> www.elainemd.com> Office: > Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined. > This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly> confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal> information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual > or entity named above.> > > > If you are not the intended recipient of this material, you may not use,> publish, discuss, disseminate or otherwise distribute it. If you are not the > intended recipient, or if you have received this transmission in error,> please notify the sender immediately and confidentially destroy the> information that email in error.> -- M.D.www.elainemd.comOffice: Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined. This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this material, you may not use, publish, discuss, disseminate or otherwise distribute it. If you are not the intended recipient, or if you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and confidentially destroy the information that email in error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 Elaine, when I opened I thought I would need to know some things so I bought accounting for dummiesIt was dreadfulI shelved it til we started the IMP as a nonprofit ,and someone made me treasurer. And they bought me Accounting for nonprofts for dummies And I read it.Chart of accounts anyone? double ledger entry? debits are positive but credits are negative???You are cracking me up. No I have to enter the numbers when the checks come in to practice mx. I suppose I should do it but I feel more comfortable w paper. I had the training course but w all the accounting terms, the guy from OA said he could not teach me unless I understood these acct terms. he thouhgt I was a waste of his time. I never pursued it from there Elaine,You say: I have not used practice mx software except for bits and pieces of it because I hate entering data.Are you saying that the EHR and practice mx do not share the patients information? (do you need to re-enter the patients demographics in the practice mx even though you've already entered it in the EHR?). . > > > >> > > > I was aware of Practice Fusion's practice of selling de-identified data> > as another revenue source before I signed on with them. After doing research> > into the subject I felt reassured that they would not sell any Personal > > Health Information to any third parties, which would be a HIPAA violation. I> > felt that it was no worse than other companies and industries that already> > sell data for money, such as financial companies or even the AMA which sells > > physician prescribing data:> > > > http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/354/26/2745> > > > > > > >> > > > Did you get a written assurance that no personal health information> > would be sold?> > > >> > > > I have no evidence for it, but I would not be surprised if other EMR > > companies also sell data to third parties.> > > >> > > > They can only do that if they have your data and most don't.> > > >> > > >> > > > While it would be ideal (for physicians) for Practice Fusion not to > > sell any data and give away its services for free, I understand that there> > is no such thing as a free lunch, and that they need some way to generate> > income in order to continue to improve and maintain the product. > > > >> > > >> > > > They could actually charge appropriately for the service.> > > >> > > >> > > > Graham, I think your statement: " ... and they do not deny selling your > > patient data ... de-identified or not. " is inaccurate and suggests that> > Practice Fusion sells data that has not been de-identified. On the contrary,> > Practice Fusion states that they double-scrub their data of any personal > > identifiers before releasing it:> > > >> > > > What I meant by that is that it has been shown that deidentified data> > can be re-identified. I previously posted a link to a paper on the subject. > > > >> > > > Graham, what EMR would you recommend?> > > >> > > >> > > > I have no significant experience outside of my own EMR.> > > > > > > > In my recent talk, I made no recommendations except buyer beware.> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > Graham Chiu> > > > http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/ > > > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR.> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > M.D.> www.elainemd.com> Office: > Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined. > This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly> confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal> information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual > or entity named above.> > > > If you are not the intended recipient of this material, you may not use,> publish, discuss, disseminate or otherwise distribute it. If you are not the > intended recipient, or if you have received this transmission in error,> please notify the sender immediately and confidentially destroy the> information that email in error.> -- M.D.www.elainemd.comOffice: Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined. This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this material, you may not use, publish, discuss, disseminate or otherwise distribute it. If you are not the intended recipient, or if you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and confidentially destroy the information that email in error. -- PATIENTS,please remember email may not be entirely secure and that Email is part of the medical record and is placed into the chart ( be careful what you say!)Email is best used for appointment making and brief questions Email replies can be expected within 24 hours-Please CALL if the matter is more urgent . MD ph fax impcenter.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 Can I borrow your accounting for dummies? I suppose I could go to library and get a copy Elaine, when I opened I thought I would need to know some things so I bought accounting for dummiesIt was dreadfulI shelved it til we started the IMP as a nonprofit ,and someone made me treasurer. And they bought me Accounting for nonprofts for dummies And I read it.Chart of accounts anyone? double ledger entry? debits are positive but credits are negative???You are cracking me up. No I have to enter the numbers when the checks come in to practice mx. I suppose I should do it but I feel more comfortable w paper. I had the training course but w all the accounting terms, the guy from OA said he could not teach me unless I understood these acct terms. he thouhgt I was a waste of his time. I never pursued it from there Elaine,You say: I have not used practice mx software except for bits and pieces of it because I hate entering data.Are you saying that the EHR and practice mx do not share the patients information? (do you need to re-enter the patients demographics in the practice mx even though you've already entered it in the EHR?). . > > > >> > > > I was aware of Practice Fusion's practice of selling de-identified data> > as another revenue source before I signed on with them. After doing research> > into the subject I felt reassured that they would not sell any Personal > > Health Information to any third parties, which would be a HIPAA violation. I> > felt that it was no worse than other companies and industries that already> > sell data for money, such as financial companies or even the AMA which sells > > physician prescribing data:> > > > http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/354/26/2745> > > > > > > >> > > > Did you get a written assurance that no personal health information> > would be sold?> > > >> > > > I have no evidence for it, but I would not be surprised if other EMR > > companies also sell data to third parties.> > > >> > > > They can only do that if they have your data and most don't.> > > >> > > >> > > > While it would be ideal (for physicians) for Practice Fusion not to > > sell any data and give away its services for free, I understand that there> > is no such thing as a free lunch, and that they need some way to generate> > income in order to continue to improve and maintain the product. > > > >> > > >> > > > They could actually charge appropriately for the service.> > > >> > > >> > > > Graham, I think your statement: " ... and they do not deny selling your > > patient data ... de-identified or not. " is inaccurate and suggests that> > Practice Fusion sells data that has not been de-identified. On the contrary,> > Practice Fusion states that they double-scrub their data of any personal > > identifiers before releasing it:> > > >> > > > What I meant by that is that it has been shown that deidentified data> > can be re-identified. I previously posted a link to a paper on the subject. > > > >> > > > Graham, what EMR would you recommend?> > > >> > > >> > > > I have no significant experience outside of my own EMR.> > > > > > > > In my recent talk, I made no recommendations except buyer beware.> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > Graham Chiu> > > > http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/ > > > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR.> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > M.D.> www.elainemd.com> Office: > Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined. > This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly> confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal> information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual > or entity named above.> > > > If you are not the intended recipient of this material, you may not use,> publish, discuss, disseminate or otherwise distribute it. If you are not the > intended recipient, or if you have received this transmission in error,> please notify the sender immediately and confidentially destroy the> information that email in error.> -- M.D.www.elainemd.comOffice: Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined.This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this material, you may not use, publish, discuss, disseminate or otherwise distribute it. If you are not the intended recipient, or if you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and confidentially destroy the information that email in error. -- PATIENTS,please remember email may not be entirely secure and that Email is part of the medical record and is placed into the chart ( be careful what you say!)Email is best used for appointment making and brief questions Email replies can be expected within 24 hours-Please CALL if the matter is more urgent . MD ph fax impcenter.org -- M.D.www.elainemd.comOffice: Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined. This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. 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Guest guest Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 what's your address? I will not miss it Can I borrow your accounting for dummies? I suppose I could go to library and get a copy Elaine, when I opened I thought I would need to know some things so I bought accounting for dummiesIt was dreadfulI shelved it til we started the IMP as a nonprofit ,and someone made me treasurer. And they bought me Accounting for nonprofts for dummies And I read it.Chart of accounts anyone? double ledger entry? debits are positive but credits are negative???You are cracking me up. No I have to enter the numbers when the checks come in to practice mx. I suppose I should do it but I feel more comfortable w paper. I had the training course but w all the accounting terms, the guy from OA said he could not teach me unless I understood these acct terms. he thouhgt I was a waste of his time. I never pursued it from there Elaine,You say: I have not used practice mx software except for bits and pieces of it because I hate entering data.Are you saying that the EHR and practice mx do not share the patients information? (do you need to re-enter the patients demographics in the practice mx even though you've already entered it in the EHR?). . > > > >> > > > I was aware of Practice Fusion's practice of selling de-identified data> > as another revenue source before I signed on with them. After doing research> > into the subject I felt reassured that they would not sell any Personal > > Health Information to any third parties, which would be a HIPAA violation. I> > felt that it was no worse than other companies and industries that already> > sell data for money, such as financial companies or even the AMA which sells > > physician prescribing data:> > > > http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/354/26/2745> > > > > > > >> > > > Did you get a written assurance that no personal health information> > would be sold?> > > >> > > > I have no evidence for it, but I would not be surprised if other EMR > > companies also sell data to third parties.> > > >> > > > They can only do that if they have your data and most don't.> > > >> > > >> > > > While it would be ideal (for physicians) for Practice Fusion not to > > sell any data and give away its services for free, I understand that there> > is no such thing as a free lunch, and that they need some way to generate> > income in order to continue to improve and maintain the product. > > > >> > > >> > > > They could actually charge appropriately for the service.> > > >> > > >> > > > Graham, I think your statement: " ... and they do not deny selling your > > patient data ... de-identified or not. " is inaccurate and suggests that> > Practice Fusion sells data that has not been de-identified. On the contrary,> > Practice Fusion states that they double-scrub their data of any personal > > identifiers before releasing it:> > > >> > > > What I meant by that is that it has been shown that deidentified data> > can be re-identified. I previously posted a link to a paper on the subject. > > > >> > > > Graham, what EMR would you recommend?> > > >> > > >> > > > I have no significant experience outside of my own EMR.> > > > > > > > In my recent talk, I made no recommendations except buyer beware.> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > Graham Chiu> > > > http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/ > > > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR.> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > M.D.> www.elainemd.com> Office: > Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined. > This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly> confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal> information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual > or entity named above.> > > > If you are not the intended recipient of this material, you may not use,> publish, discuss, disseminate or otherwise distribute it. If you are not the > intended recipient, or if you have received this transmission in error,> please notify the sender immediately and confidentially destroy the> information that email in error.> -- M.D.www.elainemd.comOffice: Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined.This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this material, you may not use, publish, discuss, disseminate or otherwise distribute it. If you are not the intended recipient, or if you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and confidentially destroy the information that email in error. -- PATIENTS,please remember email may not be entirely secure and that Email is part of the medical record and is placed into the chart ( be careful what you say!)Email is best used for appointment making and brief questions Email replies can be expected within 24 hours-Please CALL if the matter is more urgent . MD ph fax impcenter.org -- M.D.www.elainemd.com Office: Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined. This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. 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Guest guest Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 That doesn't sound like the Office Ally I know. If I had that kind of a response I would be asking for a supervisor. No matter how dumb I've been about something they have taken the time to teach it. I imagine it will be some time before ERA's (the electronic equivalent of EOB's) are electronically dumped into our practice managment systems but I would think OA would be tackling it's own software. Hopefully other software is considering coming up with the necessary interfaces for us to soon have to stop entering this data by hand. Not all insurances are doing ERA's yet, either. To: Sent: Sun, March 21, 2010 5:23:52 PMSubject: Re: Re: EMR questions No I have to enter the numbers when the checks come in to practice mx. I suppose I should do it but I feel more comfortable w paper. I had the training course but w all the accounting terms, the guy from OA said he could not teach me unless I understood these acct terms. he thouhgt I was a waste of his time. I never pursued it from there On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM, <vbreuvartgmail (DOT) com> wrote: Elaine,You say: I have not used practice mx software except for bits and pieces of it because I hate entering data.Are you saying that the EHR and practice mx do not share the patients information? (do you need to re-enter the patients demographics in the practice mx even though you've already entered it in the EHR?).. > > > >> > > > I was aware of Practice Fusion's practice of selling de-identified data> > as another revenue source before I signed on with them. After doing research> > into the subject I felt reassured that they would not sell any Personal> > Health Information to any third parties, which would be a HIPAA violation. I> > felt that it was no worse than other companies and industries that already> > sell data for money, such as financial companies or even the AMA which sells> > physician prescribing data:> > > > http://content. nejm.org/ cgi/content/ full/354/ 26/2745> > > >> > > >> > > > Did you get a written assurance that no personal health information> > would be sold?> > > >> > > > I have no evidence for it, but I would not be surprised if other EMR> > companies also sell data to third parties.> > > >> > > > They can only do that if they have your data and most don't.> > > >> > > >> > > > While it would be ideal (for physicians) for Practice Fusion not to> > sell any data and give away its services for free, I understand that there> > is no such thing as a free lunch, and that they need some way to generate> > income in order to continue to improve and maintain the product.> > > >> > > >> > > > They could actually charge appropriately for the service.> > > >> > > >> > > > Graham, I think your statement: "... and they do not deny selling your> > patient data ... de-identified or not." is inaccurate and suggests that> > Practice Fusion sells data that has not been de-identified. On the contrary,> > Practice Fusion states that they double-scrub their data of any personal> > identifiers before releasing it:> > > >> > > > What I meant by that is that it has been shown that deidentified data> > can be re-identified. I previously posted a link to a paper on the subject.> > > >> > > > Graham, what EMR would you recommend?> > > >> > > >> > > > I have no significant experience outside of my own EMR.> > > >> > > > In my recent talk, I made no recommendations except buyer beware.> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > Graham Chiu> > > > http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/> > > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR.> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > M.D.> www.elainemd. com> Office: > Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined.> This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly> confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal> information. 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Guest guest Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Thanks but save the shipping. I don't mind going to library. I just booked my hotel reservation for camp. If I have not read it by then, you can give it to me then what's your address? I will not miss it Can I borrow your accounting for dummies? I suppose I could go to library and get a copy Elaine, when I opened I thought I would need to know some things so I bought accounting for dummiesIt was dreadfulI shelved it til we started the IMP as a nonprofit ,and someone made me treasurer. And they bought me Accounting for nonprofts for dummies And I read it.Chart of accounts anyone? double ledger entry? debits are positive but credits are negative???You are cracking me up. No I have to enter the numbers when the checks come in to practice mx. I suppose I should do it but I feel more comfortable w paper. I had the training course but w all the accounting terms, the guy from OA said he could not teach me unless I understood these acct terms. he thouhgt I was a waste of his time. I never pursued it from there Elaine,You say: I have not used practice mx software except for bits and pieces of it because I hate entering data.Are you saying that the EHR and practice mx do not share the patients information? (do you need to re-enter the patients demographics in the practice mx even though you've already entered it in the EHR?). . > > > >> > > > I was aware of Practice Fusion's practice of selling de-identified data> > as another revenue source before I signed on with them. After doing research> > into the subject I felt reassured that they would not sell any Personal > > Health Information to any third parties, which would be a HIPAA violation. I> > felt that it was no worse than other companies and industries that already> > sell data for money, such as financial companies or even the AMA which sells > > physician prescribing data:> > > > http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/354/26/2745> > > > > > > >> > > > Did you get a written assurance that no personal health information> > would be sold?> > > >> > > > I have no evidence for it, but I would not be surprised if other EMR > > companies also sell data to third parties.> > > >> > > > They can only do that if they have your data and most don't.> > > >> > > >> > > > While it would be ideal (for physicians) for Practice Fusion not to > > sell any data and give away its services for free, I understand that there> > is no such thing as a free lunch, and that they need some way to generate> > income in order to continue to improve and maintain the product. > > > >> > > >> > > > They could actually charge appropriately for the service.> > > >> > > >> > > > Graham, I think your statement: " ... and they do not deny selling your > > patient data ... de-identified or not. " is inaccurate and suggests that> > Practice Fusion sells data that has not been de-identified. On the contrary,> > Practice Fusion states that they double-scrub their data of any personal > > identifiers before releasing it:> > > >> > > > What I meant by that is that it has been shown that deidentified data> > can be re-identified. I previously posted a link to a paper on the subject. > > > >> > > > Graham, what EMR would you recommend?> > > >> > > >> > > > I have no significant experience outside of my own EMR.> > > > > > > > In my recent talk, I made no recommendations except buyer beware.> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > Graham Chiu> > > > http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/ > > > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR.> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > M.D.> www.elainemd.com> Office: > Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined. > This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly> confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal> information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual > or entity named above.> > > > If you are not the intended recipient of this material, you may not use,> publish, discuss, disseminate or otherwise distribute it. 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Guest guest Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Maybe I am beyond hope. I remember the guy saying if you do this then this and I would say what is a ?? he basically could not or would not explain it to me. maybe I can may another appointment w them again soon. it would be nice if the accounts could take care of themselves! That doesn't sound like the Office Ally I know. If I had that kind of a response I would be asking for a supervisor. No matter how dumb I've been about something they have taken the time to teach it. I imagine it will be some time before ERA's (the electronic equivalent of EOB's) are electronically dumped into our practice managment systems but I would think OA would be tackling it's own software. Hopefully other software is considering coming up with the necessary interfaces for us to soon have to stop entering this data by hand. Not all insurances are doing ERA's yet, either. To: Sent: Sun, March 21, 2010 5:23:52 PMSubject: Re: Re: EMR questions No I have to enter the numbers when the checks come in to practice mx. I suppose I should do it but I feel more comfortable w paper. I had the training course but w all the accounting terms, the guy from OA said he could not teach me unless I understood these acct terms. he thouhgt I was a waste of his time. I never pursued it from there On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM, <vbreuvartgmail (DOT) com> wrote: Elaine,You say: I have not used practice mx software except for bits and pieces of it because I hate entering data.Are you saying that the EHR and practice mx do not share the patients information? (do you need to re-enter the patients demographics in the practice mx even though you've already entered it in the EHR?). . > > > >> > > > I was aware of Practice Fusion's practice of selling de-identified data> > as another revenue source before I signed on with them. After doing research> > into the subject I felt reassured that they would not sell any Personal > > Health Information to any third parties, which would be a HIPAA violation. I> > felt that it was no worse than other companies and industries that already> > sell data for money, such as financial companies or even the AMA which sells > > physician prescribing data:> > > > http://content. nejm.org/ cgi/content/ full/354/ 26/2745> > > > > > > >> > > > Did you get a written assurance that no personal health information> > would be sold?> > > >> > > > I have no evidence for it, but I would not be surprised if other EMR > > companies also sell data to third parties.> > > >> > > > They can only do that if they have your data and most don't.> > > >> > > >> > > > While it would be ideal (for physicians) for Practice Fusion not to > > sell any data and give away its services for free, I understand that there> > is no such thing as a free lunch, and that they need some way to generate> > income in order to continue to improve and maintain the product. > > > >> > > >> > > > They could actually charge appropriately for the service.> > > >> > > >> > > > Graham, I think your statement: " ... and they do not deny selling your > > patient data ... de-identified or not. " is inaccurate and suggests that> > Practice Fusion sells data that has not been de-identified. On the contrary,> > Practice Fusion states that they double-scrub their data of any personal > > identifiers before releasing it:> > > >> > > > What I meant by that is that it has been shown that deidentified data> > can be re-identified. I previously posted a link to a paper on the subject. > > > >> > > > Graham, what EMR would you recommend?> > > >> > > >> > > > I have no significant experience outside of my own EMR.> > > > > > > > In my recent talk, I made no recommendations except buyer beware.> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > Graham Chiu> > > > http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/ > > > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR.> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > M.D.> www.elainemd. com> Office: > Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined. > This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly> confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal> information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual > or entity named above.> > > > If you are not the intended recipient of this material, you may not use,> publish, discuss, disseminate or otherwise distribute it. 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Guest guest Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Most of my ERA’s “dump” into my software (e-MDs). It’s fabulous. I can still post them individually, or if the batch looks good, every payment and adjustment is posted with a few clicks. I love it! I only have to manually post the physical checks that I get (about 6 per week) and the copays.. Pratt Office Manager Oak Tree Internal Medicine P.C www.prattmd.info From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Myria Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 2:43 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: EMR questions That doesn't sound like the Office Ally I know. If I had that kind of a response I would be asking for a supervisor. No matter how dumb I've been about something they have taken the time to teach it. I imagine it will be some time before ERA's (the electronic equivalent of EOB's) are electronically dumped into our practice managment systems but I would think OA would be tackling it's own software. Hopefully other software is considering coming up with the necessary interfaces for us to soon have to stop entering this data by hand. Not all insurances are doing ERA's yet, either. From: <elaine2mdgmail> To: Sent: Sun, March 21, 2010 5:23:52 PM Subject: Re: Re: EMR questions No I have to enter the numbers when the checks come in to practice mx. I suppose I should do it but I feel more comfortable w paper. I had the training course but w all the accounting terms, the guy from OA said he could not teach me unless I understood these acct terms. he thouhgt I was a waste of his time. I never pursued it from there On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM, <vbreuvartgmail (DOT) com> wrote: Elaine, You say: I have not used practice mx software except for bits and pieces of it because I hate entering data. Are you saying that the EHR and practice mx do not share the patients information? (do you need to re-enter the patients demographics in the practice mx even though you've already entered it in the EHR?). . > > > > > > > > I was aware of Practice Fusion's practice of selling de-identified data > > as another revenue source before I signed on with them. After doing research > > into the subject I felt reassured that they would not sell any Personal > > Health Information to any third parties, which would be a HIPAA violation. I > > felt that it was no worse than other companies and industries that already > > sell data for money, such as financial companies or even the AMA which sells > > physician prescribing data: > > > > http://content. nejm.org/ cgi/content/ full/354/ 26/2745 > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you get a written assurance that no personal health information > > would be sold? > > > > > > > > I have no evidence for it, but I would not be surprised if other EMR > > companies also sell data to third parties. > > > > > > > > They can only do that if they have your data and most don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > While it would be ideal (for physicians) for Practice Fusion not to > > sell any data and give away its services for free, I understand that there > > is no such thing as a free lunch, and that they need some way to generate > > income in order to continue to improve and maintain the product. > > > > > > > > > > > > They could actually charge appropriately for the service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Graham, I think your statement: " ... and they do not deny selling your > > patient data ... de-identified or not. " is inaccurate and suggests that > > Practice Fusion sells data that has not been de-identified. On the contrary, > > Practice Fusion states that they double-scrub their data of any personal > > identifiers before releasing it: > > > > > > > > What I meant by that is that it has been shown that deidentified data > > can be re-identified. I previously posted a link to a paper on the subject. > > > > > > > > Graham, what EMR would you recommend? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no significant experience outside of my own EMR. > > > > > > > > In my recent talk, I made no recommendations except buyer beware. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Graham Chiu > > > > http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/ > > > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > M.D. > www.elainemd. com > Office: > Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined. > This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly > confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal > information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual > or entity named above. > > > > If you are not the intended recipient of this material, you may not use, > publish, discuss, disseminate or otherwise distribute it. 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Guest guest Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I am so jealous!! It's the part I hate most about billing. Time consuming and boring! Your EMR sounds very complete, wish I could afford it. Hopefully, AC's practice management will come out soon. ________________________________To: Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 12:06:28 AMSubject: RE: Re: EMR questions Most of my ERA’s “dump†into my software (e-MDs). It’s fabulous. I can still post them individually, or if the batch looks good, every payment and adjustment is posted with a few clicks. I love it! I only have to manually post the physical checks that I get (about 6 per week) and the copays.. PrattOffice ManagerOak Tree Internal Medicine P.Cwww.prattmd. info ________________________________From:Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) com [mailto: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) com ] On Behalf Of MyriaSent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 2:43 PMTo: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) comSubject: Re: [Practiceimprovemen t1] Re: EMR questions That doesn't sound like the Office Ally I know. If I had that kind of a response I would be asking for a supervisor. No matter how dumb I've been about something they have taken the time to teach it. I imagine it will be some time before ERA's (the electronic equivalent of EOB's) are electronically dumped into our practice managment systems but I would think OA would be tackling it's own software. Hopefully other software is considering coming up with the necessary interfaces for us to soon have to stop entering this data by hand. Not all insurances are doing ERA's yet, either. ________________________________From: <elaine2mdgmail (DOT) com>To: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Sun, March 21, 2010 5:23:52 PMSubject: Re: [Practiceimprovemen t1] Re: EMR questions No I have to enter the numbers when the checks come in to practice mx. I suppose I should do it but I feel more comfortable w paper. I had the training course but w all the accounting terms, the guy from OA said he could not teach me unless I understood these acct terms. he thouhgt I was a waste of his time. I never pursued it from thereOn Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM, <vbreuvartgmail (DOT) com> wrote: Elaine,You say: I have not used practice mx software except for bits and pieces of it because I hate entering data.Are you saying that the EHR and practice mx do not share the patients information? (do you need to re-enter the patients demographics in the practice mx even though you've already entered it in the EHR?).. > > > >> > > > I was aware of Practice Fusion's practice of selling de-identified data> > as another revenue source before I signed on with them. After doing research> > into the subject I felt reassured that they would not sell any Personal> > Health Information to any third parties, which would be a HIPAA violation. I> > felt that it was no worse than other companies and industries that already> > sell data for money, such as financial companies or even the AMA which sells> > physician prescribing data:> > > > http://content. nejm.org/ cgi/content/ full/354/ 26/2745> > > >> > > >> > > > Did you get a written assurance that no personal health information> > would be sold?> > > >> > > > I have no evidence for it, but I would not be surprised if other EMR> > companies also sell data to third parties.> > > >> > > > They can only do that if they have your data and most don't.> > > >> > > >> > > > While it would be ideal (for physicians) for Practice Fusion not to> > sell any data and give away its services for free, I understand that there> > is no such thing as a free lunch, and that they need some way to generate> > income in order to continue to improve and maintain the product.> > > >> > > >> > > > They could actually charge appropriately for the service.> > > >> > > >> > > > Graham, I think your statement: "... and they do not deny selling your> > patient data ... de-identified or not." is inaccurate and suggests that> > Practice Fusion sells data that has not been de-identified. On the contrary,> > Practice Fusion states that they double-scrub their data of any personal> > identifiers before releasing it:> > > >> > > > What I meant by that is that it has been shown that deidentified data> > can be re-identified. I previously posted a link to a paper on the subject.> > > >> > > > Graham, what EMR would you recommend?> > > >> > > >> > > > I have no significant experience outside of my own EMR.> > > >> > > > In my recent talk, I made no recommendations except buyer beware.> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > Graham Chiu> > > > http://www.compkaro ri.co.nz: 8090/> > > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR.> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > M.D.> www.elainemd. com> Office: > Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined.> This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly> confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal> information. 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Guest guest Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Thats what Kareo promises to do . we'll see. I am so jealous!! It's the part I hate most about billing. Time consuming and boring! Your EMR sounds very complete, wish I could afford it. Hopefully, AC's practice management will come out soon. ________________________________To: Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 12:06:28 AMSubject: RE: Re: EMR questions Most of my ERA’s “dump” into my software (e-MDs). It’s fabulous. I can still post them individually, or if the batch looks good, every payment and adjustment is posted with a few clicks. I love it! I only have to manually post the physical checks that I get (about 6 per week) and the copays.. PrattOffice ManagerOak Tree Internal Medicine P.Cwww.prattmd. info ________________________________From:Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) com [mailto: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) com ] On Behalf Of Myria Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 2:43 PMTo: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) comSubject: Re: [Practiceimprovemen t1] Re: EMR questions That doesn't sound like the Office Ally I know. If I had that kind of a response I would be asking for a supervisor. No matter how dumb I've been about something they have taken the time to teach it. I imagine it will be some time before ERA's (the electronic equivalent of EOB's) are electronically dumped into our practice managment systems but I would think OA would be tackling it's own software. Hopefully other software is considering coming up with the necessary interfaces for us to soon have to stop entering this data by hand. Not all insurances are doing ERA's yet, either. ________________________________From: <elaine2mdgmail (DOT) com>To: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Sun, March 21, 2010 5:23:52 PMSubject: Re: [Practiceimprovemen t1] Re: EMR questions No I have to enter the numbers when the checks come in to practice mx. I suppose I should do it but I feel more comfortable w paper. I had the training course but w all the accounting terms, the guy from OA said he could not teach me unless I understood these acct terms. he thouhgt I was a waste of his time. I never pursued it from there On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM, <vbreuvartgmail (DOT) com> wrote: Elaine,You say: I have not used practice mx software except for bits and pieces of it because I hate entering data.Are you saying that the EHR and practice mx do not share the patients information? (do you need to re-enter the patients demographics in the practice mx even though you've already entered it in the EHR?). . > > > >> > > > I was aware of Practice Fusion's practice of selling de-identified data > > as another revenue source before I signed on with them. After doing research> > into the subject I felt reassured that they would not sell any Personal> > Health Information to any third parties, which would be a HIPAA violation. I> > felt that it was no worse than other companies and industries that already> > sell data for money, such as financial companies or even the AMA which sells> > physician prescribing data: > > > > http://content. nejm.org/ cgi/content/ full/354/ 26/2745> > > >> > > >> > > > Did you get a written assurance that no personal health information > > would be sold?> > > >> > > > I have no evidence for it, but I would not be surprised if other EMR> > companies also sell data to third parties.> > > > > > > > They can only do that if they have your data and most don't.> > > >> > > >> > > > While it would be ideal (for physicians) for Practice Fusion not to > > sell any data and give away its services for free, I understand that there> > is no such thing as a free lunch, and that they need some way to generate> > income in order to continue to improve and maintain the product. > > > >> > > >> > > > They could actually charge appropriately for the service.> > > >> > > >> > > > Graham, I think your statement: " ... and they do not deny selling your > > patient data ... de-identified or not. " is inaccurate and suggests that> > Practice Fusion sells data that has not been de-identified. On the contrary,> > Practice Fusion states that they double-scrub their data of any personal > > identifiers before releasing it:> > > >> > > > What I meant by that is that it has been shown that deidentified data> > can be re-identified. I previously posted a link to a paper on the subject.> > > >> > > > Graham, what EMR would you recommend?> > > >> > > >> > > > I have no significant experience outside of my own EMR. > > > >> > > > In my recent talk, I made no recommendations except buyer beware.> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > Graham Chiu > > > > http://www.compkaro ri.co.nz: 8090/> > > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR. > > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > M.D.> www.elainemd. com> Office: > Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined.> This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly> confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal> information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual > or entity named above.> > > > If you are not the intended recipient of this material, you may not use,> publish, discuss, disseminate or otherwise distribute it. 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Guest guest Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 We've definitely been happy with our emr. Very complete package and more affordable than many. Not as cheap as a lot, but we think it's been worth every penny. I am so jealous!! It's the part I hate most about billing. Time consuming and boring! Your EMR sounds very complete, wish I could afford it. Hopefully, AC's practice management will come out soon. ________________________________From: Pratt <karen.oaktreecomcast (DOT) net>To: Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 12:06:28 AMSubject: RE: Re: EMR questions Most of my ERA’s “dump†into my software (e-MDs). It’s fabulous. I can still post them individually, or if the batch looks good, every payment and adjustment is posted with a few clicks. I love it! I only have to manually post the physical checks that I get (about 6 per week) and the copays.. PrattOffice ManagerOak Tree Internal Medicine P.Cwww.prattmd. info ________________________________From:Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) com [mailto: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) com ] On Behalf Of MyriaSent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 2:43 PMTo: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) comSubject: Re: [Practiceimprovemen t1] Re: EMR questions That doesn't sound like the Office Ally I know. If I had that kind of a response I would be asking for a supervisor. No matter how dumb I've been about something they have taken the time to teach it. I imagine it will be some time before ERA's (the electronic equivalent of EOB's) are electronically dumped into our practice managment systems but I would think OA would be tackling it's own software. Hopefully other software is considering coming up with the necessary interfaces for us to soon have to stop entering this data by hand. Not all insurances are doing ERA's yet, either. ________________________________From: <elaine2mdgmail (DOT) com>To: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Sun, March 21, 2010 5:23:52 PMSubject: Re: [Practiceimprovemen t1] Re: EMR questions No I have to enter the numbers when the checks come in to practice mx. I suppose I should do it but I feel more comfortable w paper. I had the training course but w all the accounting terms, the guy from OA said he could not teach me unless I understood these acct terms. he thouhgt I was a waste of his time. I never pursued it from thereOn Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM, <vbreuvartgmail (DOT) com> wrote: Elaine,You say: I have not used practice mx software except for bits and pieces of it because I hate entering data.Are you saying that the EHR and practice mx do not share the patients information? (do you need to re-enter the patients demographics in the practice mx even though you've already entered it in the EHR?).. > > > >> > > > I was aware of Practice Fusion's practice of selling de-identified data> > as another revenue source before I signed on with them. After doing research> > into the subject I felt reassured that they would not sell any Personal> > Health Information to any third parties, which would be a HIPAA violation. I> > felt that it was no worse than other companies and industries that already> > sell data for money, such as financial companies or even the AMA which sells> > physician prescribing data:> > > > http://content. nejm.org/ cgi/content/ full/354/ 26/2745> > > >> > > >> > > > Did you get a written assurance that no personal health information> > would be sold?> > > >> > > > I have no evidence for it, but I would not be surprised if other EMR> > companies also sell data to third parties.> > > >> > > > They can only do that if they have your data and most don't.> > > >> > > >> > > > While it would be ideal (for physicians) for Practice Fusion not to> > sell any data and give away its services for free, I understand that there> > is no such thing as a free lunch, and that they need some way to generate> > income in order to continue to improve and maintain the product.> > > >> > > >> > > > They could actually charge appropriately for the service.> > > >> > > >> > > > Graham, I think your statement: "... and they do not deny selling your> > patient data ... de-identified or not." is inaccurate and suggests that> > Practice Fusion sells data that has not been de-identified. On the contrary,> > Practice Fusion states that they double-scrub their data of any personal> > identifiers before releasing it:> > > >> > > > What I meant by that is that it has been shown that deidentified data> > can be re-identified. I previously posted a link to a paper on the subject.> > > >> > > > Graham, what EMR would you recommend?> > > >> > > >> > > > I have no significant experience outside of my own EMR.> > > >> > > > In my recent talk, I made no recommendations except buyer beware.> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > Graham Chiu> > > > http://www.compkaro ri.co.nz: 8090/> > > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR.> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> > > >> > > > -- > M.D.> www.elainemd. com> Office: > Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined.> This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly> confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or legal> information. 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Guest guest Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 i would have went through with amazing charts myself but being the techie in the lot, i know i wouldnt have time to wrestle with squabbles with third party vendors. so i went with a fully integrated emr. good luck. researching it now is time well spent. grace > > > > > > > > > > > > I was aware of Practice Fusion's practice of selling de- > > identified data > > > > as another revenue source before I signed on with them. After > > doing research > > > > into the subject I felt reassured that they would not sell any > > Personal > > > > Health Information to any third parties, which would be a HIPAA > > violation. I > > > > felt that it was no worse than other companies and industries > > that already > > > > sell data for money, such as financial companies or even the AMA > > which sells > > > > physician prescribing data: > > > > > > http://content. nejm.org/ cgi/content/ full/354/ 26/2745 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you get a written assurance that no personal health > > information > > > > would be sold? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no evidence for it, but I would not be surprised if > > other EMR > > > > companies also sell data to third parties. > > > > > > > > > > > > They can only do that if they have your data and most don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While it would be ideal (for physicians) for Practice Fusion > > not to > > > > sell any data and give away its services for free, I understand > > that there > > > > is no such thing as a free lunch, and that they need some way to > > generate > > > > income in order to continue to improve and maintain the product. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They could actually charge appropriately for the service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graham, I think your statement: " ... and they do not deny > > selling your > > > > patient data ... de-identified or not. " is inaccurate and > > suggests that > > > > Practice Fusion sells data that has not been de-identified. On > > the contrary, > > > > Practice Fusion states that they double-scrub their data of any > > personal > > > > identifiers before releasing it: > > > > > > > > > > > > What I meant by that is that it has been shown that > > deidentified data > > > > can be re-identified. I previously posted a link to a paper on > > the subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > Graham, what EMR would you recommend? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no significant experience outside of my own EMR. > > > > > > > > > > > > In my recent talk, I made no recommendations except buyer > > beware. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Graham Chiu > > > > > > http://www.compkaro ri.co.nz: 8090/ > > > > > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > M.D. > > > www.elainemd. com > > > Office: > > > Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've > > imagined. > > > This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly > > > confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or > > legal > > > information. The information is intended only for the use of the > > individual > > > or entity named above. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are not the intended recipient of this material, you may > > not use, > > > publish, discuss, disseminate or otherwise distribute it. If you > > are not the > > > intended recipient, or if you have received this transmission in > > error, > > > please notify the sender immediately and confidentially destroy the > > > information that email in error. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > M.D. > > www.elainemd. com > > Office: > > Go in the directions of your dreams and live the life you've imagined. > > This email transmission may contain protected and privileged, highly > > confidential medical, Personal and Health Information (PHI) and/or > > legal information. The information is intended only for the use of > > the individual or entity named above. > > > > > > > > If you are not the intended recipient of this material, you may not > > use, publish, discuss, disseminate or otherwise distribute it. If > > you are not the intended recipient, or if you have received this > > transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and > > confidentially destroy the information that email in error. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 --- I talked to a Practice Fusion rep and they have an interface with billing. They do collections per submission, not a % of collections. Seemed reasonable but I have not used it. Has anyone else? Ellen Seto wrote: > > , > > I am still using the MacPractice practice management software that I > have been using for the past 3-4 years. I have a part-time biller who > gets the job done, but I am debating whether I should go with an > online billing service that integrates with Practice Fusion instead. > I'd have to crunch the numbers to see which method works out best > financially. Maybe others using Practice Fusion will share how they do > billing. can give you her thoughts on Office Ally. > > Good luck with opening your practice! > > Seto > South Pasadena, CA > > > >> I agree with on this issue. >> >> Also, FYI, I spoke with a Practice Fusion rep. a couple of weeks ago, >> who affirmed that even though PF may in the future sell the >> de-personalized data to third parties, they have not done so yet, not >> once (so I was told). >> >> We are opening our practice in early May and are about to pick our >> EMR. It seems we will first go with either PF or the Office Ally >> suite. I'd like to ask and other PF users what practice >> management/billing software you use? I looked into the Kareo software >> that PF just partnered with (seamless transfer of info between the >> two softwares), and am wondering what are the best PM/billing >> software to use with PF? Any comment on this would be very welcome. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Breuvart >> Marfa Country Clinic >> PO Box 368 >> Marfa, Texas 79843 >> >> >> > > >> > > I was aware of Practice Fusion's practice of selling >> de-identified data as another revenue source before I signed on with >> them. After doing research into the subject I felt reassured that >> they would not sell any Personal Health Information to any third >> parties, which would be a HIPAA violation. I felt that it was no >> worse than other companies and industries that already sell data for >> money, such as financial companies or even the AMA which sells >> physician prescribing data: >> > > http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/354/26/2745 >> <http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/354/26/2745> >> > > >> > > >> > > Did you get a written assurance that no personal health >> information would be sold? >> > > >> > > I have no evidence for it, but I would not be surprised if other >> EMR companies also sell data to third parties. >> > > >> > > They can only do that if they have your data and most don't. >> > > >> > > >> > > While it would be ideal (for physicians) for Practice Fusion not >> to sell any data and give away its services for free, I understand >> that there is no such thing as a free lunch, and that they need some >> way to generate income in order to continue to improve and maintain >> the product. >> > > >> > > >> > > They could actually charge appropriately for the service. >> > > >> > > >> > > Graham, I think your statement: " ... and they do not deny selling >> your patient data ... de-identified or not. " is inaccurate and >> suggests that Practice Fusion sells data that has not been >> de-identified. On the contrary, Practice Fusion states that they >> double-scrub their data of any personal identifiers before releasing it: >> > > >> > > What I meant by that is that it has been shown that deidentified >> data can be re-identified. I previously posted a link to a paper on >> the subject. >> > > >> > > Graham, what EMR would you recommend? >> > > >> > > >> > > I have no significant experience outside of my own EMR. >> > > >> > > In my recent talk, I made no recommendations except buyer beware. >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Graham Chiu >> > > http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/ <http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/> >> > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR. >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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