Re: Selling my parents home

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Isn't that something? I was surprised at her wonderful find. Put 20,000 in a

secure place. What else. Do you need help sorting? (grin)

Imogene

In a message dated 2/19/2007 3:53:27 PM Central Standard Time,

stim@... writes:

Hey Dena,

Did you really mean to write that the clock is worth $20,000? It just shows

we should take

time with the sorting and pitching! Hard to believe.

[Guest guest]

I don't know much about them, but did get a lead testing kit, and some of

the older dishes in Desert Rose were full of lead. But, not the newer dishes.

Imogene

In a message dated 2/19/2007 6:08:01 PM Central Standard Time,

jchristensen1953@... writes:

I don't think Franciscan had lead, it was Fiesta, and

the red and orange colors were the worst. There were

warnings that hot food should not be eaten from them,

as the lead would leach out.

--- Dena LEAVITT wrote:

[Guest guest]

Hi

I can so relate. My father was an antique car

collector and he submitted Brain Teasers to the area

newspapers, so I guess you would say that math was

another passion for him. So if anyone in the CA area

needs a model A engine we have one. We also almost

gave away a grandfather clock until we went on line

and checked them out. Apparently it worth a lot now.

And I just unpacked my mothers Franciscan ware. Just

like I love Lucy used on her show!! And a old kitchen

clock with the cord attached, no batteries way back

when. That must really have been attractive with the

cord running down the wall to the outlet!!I really

laughed over that one. She also keep some old news

papers and magazines of history events. And real E

tickets for Disneyland, actually a few full booklets,

way back when you bought tickets for rides at

Disneyland. So lots of memories in 51 years of house.

Or I should say 51 years of life.

Two Realtors showed the house this past weekend. No

offers yet.

Dena

Mother (84) Living with LBD in NH

--- lauraj1928 wrote:

>

> Hello Dena,

>

> I too am in the process of cleaning out the family

> house and putting it

> up for sale. I feel like I am giving away a part

> of who my parents

> were. Mom died in 2005(cancer) and dad has been in

> a NH the last 6

> months. I feel terrible about selling the house

> from under dad. He

> typically doesn't know where he is or what decade

> he's in and only

> rarely asks about the house, so we haven't told him.

> We didn't see any

> benefit. But still, it's hard giving away their

> lifetime of accumulated

> things.

>

> I'm glad to hear your husband is helping out. I was

> luck to have a

> brother to help out. We made boxing up a family

> activity. The little

> ones thought it was really cool to get to empty out

> all the kitchen

> cabinets. It helped having company going through

> things. How could I

> not laugh when my brother pulls out a serving tray

> with a big picture of

> a fish on it. They must have gotten it in the the

> 60's. Boy is it ugly

> :-) When you tackle your garage, invite a few

> friends over, make some

> smoothies and look for the humor of memories in

> those boxes. That's

> what helped me. Best wishes.

>

> (Father 78-living in NH in IL)

>

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > > Hello All

> > > >

> > > > Again I am faced with a very heart wrenching

> > > > decision.

> > > > It was so difficult to place my mom in the NH.

> I

> > > had

> > > > cared for her in my home for 10 months and

> then

> > > > could

> > > > no longer do it and felt such guilt about

> " giving

> > > > up " .

> > > > I later realized that I was not giving up, but

> > > just

> > > > changing my role. I am still her caregiver. I

> see

> > > > her

> > > > daily or every other day. I do what I can for

> her

> > > > there. Now, I have had to place her home up

> for

> > > > sale.

> > > > My father built this house. He was and

> electrical

> > > > contractor and did most of the work himself

> with

> > > the

> > > > help of friends. They moved in in Feb 1956.

> > > Ironic,

> > > > that this is the very month that we have moved

> > > > everything out and place it up for sale. My

> heart

> > > is

> > > > broken with grief. This is my only childhood

> home.

> > > I

> > > > feel like I am losing my father and mother all

> > > over

> > > > again. I know in my head that this is dumb. It

> is

> > > > after all just a house and I will always have

> all

> > > > the

> > > > memories. But, wow is this hard too. It all

> boils

> > > > down

> > > > to money. My mother does have other money in

> other

> > > > places, but we will lose a larger portion if

> we

> > > take

> > > > it out before her death. My husband and I do

> not

> > > > want

> > > > to live there, neither do my children, so the

> most

> > > > sensible option is to sell it. My mom is not

> on

> > > > Medical and is a private pay person in her NH.

> I

> > > > have

> > > > kept her in a private room which is a little

> more,

> > > > but

> > > > not all that much. I am so trying to think

> with my

> > > > head and not my heart, but it is difficult.

> > > Cleaning

> > > > it all out was not really hard because I did

> not

> > > do

> > > > it. My poor husband spent days and days over

> there

> > > > as

> > > > I was home caring for my Aunt who is living

> with

> > > us

> > > > (I

> > > > hope temporally) since she broke her hip in

> > > > December.

> > > > I also have injured my back helping her stand

> up.

> > > > She

> > > > has really back arthritis and cannot bend her

> > > knees

> > > > very well. Believe me, this time of my life

> has

> > > been

> > > > rough. But I know that God has a plan and I am

> > > > hanging

> > > > in there. I know many of you have had to sell

> > > homes.

> > > > Did you feel guilty like I am? Or is it

> because

> > > she

> > > > is

> > > > still living and I feel like I am taking her

> home

>

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Dena: What pattern is your Franciscan ware? Don't

just give it away. Some of the patterns are very

collectible; i.e., Desert Rose, Apple, and others.

Also original tickets to events often sell well on

E-Bay. Also, if your clock is red from the 50s, I

have a customer wanting one.

June

--- Dena LEAVITT wrote:

> Hi

>

> I can so relate. My father was an antique car

> collector and he submitted Brain Teasers to the area

> newspapers, so I guess you would say that math was

> another passion for him. So if anyone in the CA area

> needs a model A engine we have one. We also almost

> gave away a grandfather clock until we went on line

> and checked them out. Apparently it worth a lot now.

> And I just unpacked my mothers Franciscan ware. Just

> like I love Lucy used on her show!! And a old

> kitchen

> clock with the cord attached, no batteries way back

> when. That must really have been attractive with the

> cord running down the wall to the outlet!!I really

> laughed over that one. She also keep some old news

> papers and magazines of history events. And real E

> tickets for Disneyland, actually a few full

> booklets,

> way back when you bought tickets for rides at

> Disneyland. So lots of memories in 51 years of

> house.

> Or I should say 51 years of life.

>

> Two Realtors showed the house this past weekend. No

> offers yet.

>

> Dena

> Mother (84) Living with LBD in NH

> --- lauraj1928 wrote:

>

> >

> > Hello Dena,

> >

> > I too am in the process of cleaning out the family

> > house and putting it

> > up for sale. I feel like I am giving away a part

> > of who my parents

> > were. Mom died in 2005(cancer) and dad has been

> in

> > a NH the last 6

> > months. I feel terrible about selling the house

> > from under dad. He

> > typically doesn't know where he is or what decade

> > he's in and only

> > rarely asks about the house, so we haven't told

> him.

> > We didn't see any

> > benefit. But still, it's hard giving away their

> > lifetime of accumulated

> > things.

> >

> > I'm glad to hear your husband is helping out. I

> was

> > luck to have a

> > brother to help out. We made boxing up a family

> > activity. The little

> > ones thought it was really cool to get to empty

> out

> > all the kitchen

> > cabinets. It helped having company going through

> > things. How could I

> > not laugh when my brother pulls out a serving tray

> > with a big picture of

> > a fish on it. They must have gotten it in the the

> > 60's. Boy is it ugly

> > :-) When you tackle your garage, invite a few

> > friends over, make some

> > smoothies and look for the humor of memories in

> > those boxes. That's

> > what helped me. Best wishes.

> >

> > (Father 78-living in NH in IL)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > >

> > > > > Hello All

> > > > >

> > > > > Again I am faced with a very heart wrenching

> > > > > decision.

> > > > > It was so difficult to place my mom in the

> NH.

> > I

> > > > had

> > > > > cared for her in my home for 10 months and

> > then

> > > > > could

> > > > > no longer do it and felt such guilt about

> > " giving

> > > > > up " .

> > > > > I later realized that I was not giving up,

> but

> > > > just

> > > > > changing my role. I am still her caregiver.

> I

> > see

> > > > > her

> > > > > daily or every other day. I do what I can

> for

> > her

> > > > > there. Now, I have had to place her home up

> > for

> > > > > sale.

> > > > > My father built this house. He was and

> > electrical

> > > > > contractor and did most of the work himself

> > with

> > > > the

> > > > > help of friends. They moved in in Feb 1956.

> > > > Ironic,

> > > > > that this is the very month that we have

> moved

> > > > > everything out and place it up for sale. My

> > heart

> > > > is

> > > > > broken with grief. This is my only childhood

> > home.

> > > > I

> > > > > feel like I am losing my father and mother

> all

> > > > over

> > > > > again. I know in my head that this is dumb.

> It

> > is

> > > > > after all just a house and I will always

> have

> > all

> > > > > the

> > > > > memories. But, wow is this hard too. It all

>

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Hi June

It is an ivy pattern. Not Desert Rose or Apple just

shades of green ivy. And the clock was yellow. I am

not selling or giving anything away at this point. I

have it all in my garage. A neighbor happened by and

wanted the clock. So we did check it out and found

that it was worth around 20,000. I had no idea.

Dena In So Cal

Mother (84) Living with LBD in NH

--- June Christensen

wrote:

> Dena: What pattern is your Franciscan ware? Don't

> just give it away. Some of the patterns are very

> collectible; i.e., Desert Rose, Apple, and others.

> Also original tickets to events often sell well on

> E-Bay. Also, if your clock is red from the 50s, I

> have a customer wanting one.

>

> June

> --- Dena LEAVITT wrote:

>

> > Hi

> >

> > I can so relate. My father was an antique car

> > collector and he submitted Brain Teasers to the

> area

> > newspapers, so I guess you would say that math was

> > another passion for him. So if anyone in the CA

> area

> > needs a model A engine we have one. We also almost

> > gave away a grandfather clock until we went on

> line

> > and checked them out. Apparently it worth a lot

> now.

> > And I just unpacked my mothers Franciscan ware.

> Just

> > like I love Lucy used on her show!! And a old

> > kitchen

> > clock with the cord attached, no batteries way

> back

> > when. That must really have been attractive with

> the

> > cord running down the wall to the outlet!!I really

> > laughed over that one. She also keep some old news

> > papers and magazines of history events. And real E

> > tickets for Disneyland, actually a few full

> > booklets,

> > way back when you bought tickets for rides at

> > Disneyland. So lots of memories in 51 years of

> > house.

> > Or I should say 51 years of life.

> >

> > Two Realtors showed the house this past weekend.

> No

> > offers yet.

> >

> > Dena

> > Mother (84) Living with LBD in NH

> > --- lauraj1928 wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Hello Dena,

> > >

> > > I too am in the process of cleaning out the

> family

> > > house and putting it

> > > up for sale. I feel like I am giving away a

> part

> > > of who my parents

> > > were. Mom died in 2005(cancer) and dad has been

> > in

> > > a NH the last 6

> > > months. I feel terrible about selling the house

> > > from under dad. He

> > > typically doesn't know where he is or what

> decade

> > > he's in and only

> > > rarely asks about the house, so we haven't told

> > him.

> > > We didn't see any

> > > benefit. But still, it's hard giving away their

> > > lifetime of accumulated

> > > things.

> > >

> > > I'm glad to hear your husband is helping out. I

> > was

> > > luck to have a

> > > brother to help out. We made boxing up a family

> > > activity. The little

> > > ones thought it was really cool to get to empty

> > out

> > > all the kitchen

> > > cabinets. It helped having company going

> through

> > > things. How could I

> > > not laugh when my brother pulls out a serving

> tray

> > > with a big picture of

> > > a fish on it. They must have gotten it in the

> the

> > > 60's. Boy is it ugly

> > > :-) When you tackle your garage, invite a few

> > > friends over, make some

> > > smoothies and look for the humor of memories in

> > > those boxes. That's

> > > what helped me. Best wishes.

> > >

> > > (Father 78-living in NH in IL)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hello All

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Again I am faced with a very heart

> wrenching

> > > > > > decision.

> > > > > > It was so difficult to place my mom in the

> > NH.

> > > I

> > > > > had

> > > > > > cared for her in my home for 10 months and

> > > then

> > > > > > could

> > > > > > no longer do it and felt such guilt about

> > > " giving

> > > > > > up " .

> > > > > > I later realized that I was not giving up,

> > but

>

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Hi Imogene

Thanks for the warning I will check it out.

Dena in So Cal

Mother (84) Living with LBD in NH

--- Iward27663@... wrote:

>

>

> The older Franciscan ware had lead in it. You may

> want to check that out

> before passing anyof them on without a warning. We

> gave a large set to Don's

> daughter, but some of the older peices had lead. We

> told her to test them before

> using. I would not want anyone to use something that

> is harmful.

> Imogene

>

> In a message dated 2/19/2007 2:52:23 PM Central

> Standard Time,

> jchristensen1953@... writes:

>

> Dena: What pattern is your Franciscan ware? Don't

> just give it away. Some of the patterns are very

> collectible; i.e., Desert Rose, Apple, and others.

> Also original tickets to events often sell well on

> E-Bay. Also, if your clock is red from the 50s, I

> have a customer wanting one.

>

> June

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Hey Dena,

Did you really mean to write that the clock is worth $20,000? It just shows we

should take

time with the sorting and pitching! Hard to believe.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hello All

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Again I am faced with a very heart

> > wrenching

> > > > > > > decision.

> > > > > > > It was so difficult to place my mom in the

> > > NH.

> > > > I

> > > > > > had

> > > > > > > cared for her in my home for 10 months and

> > > > then

> > > > > > > could

> > > > > > > no longer do it and felt such guilt about

> > > > " giving

> > > > > > > up " .

> > > > > > > I later realized that I was not giving up,

> > > but

> >

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>

>

>

>

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Dena: Ivy is one of the most collectible and usually

sells very high. Check E-Bay to see what it's selling

for, but I believe it's more than DR and Apple.

--- stimtimminss wrote:

> Hey Dena,

> Did you really mean to write that the clock is worth

> $20,000? It just shows we should take

> time with the sorting and pitching! Hard to

> believe.

>

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dena: Of course, it is hard to lose the

> home

>

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I don't think Franciscan had lead, it was Fiesta, and

the red and orange colors were the worst. There were

warnings that hot food should not be eaten from them,

as the lead would leach out.

--- Dena LEAVITT wrote:

> Hi Imogene

>

> Thanks for the warning I will check it out.

>

> Dena in So Cal

> Mother (84) Living with LBD in NH

> --- Iward27663@... wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > The older Franciscan ware had lead in it. You may

> > want to check that out

> > before passing anyof them on without a warning. We

> > gave a large set to Don's

> > daughter, but some of the older peices had lead.

> We

> > told her to test them before

> > using. I would not want anyone to use something

> that

> > is harmful.

> > Imogene

> >

> > In a message dated 2/19/2007 2:52:23 PM Central

> > Standard Time,

> > jchristensen1953@... writes:

> >

> > Dena: What pattern is your Franciscan ware?

> Don't

> > just give it away. Some of the patterns are very

> > collectible; i.e., Desert Rose, Apple, and

> others.

> > Also original tickets to events often sell well on

> > E-Bay. Also, if your clock is red from the 50s,

> I

> > have a customer wanting one.

> >

> > June

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon, thank you for this information. I did test the plates, and the

old ones had lead.

I don't know if it was surface glaze or not, but it was there. Maybe it

wasn't dangerous.

I cut a piece from the news paper years ago, warning of lead in old Desert

Rose, so I tested it.

Yep. It was there. I didn't want to eat out of them. I don't know how old

they were. But, were some of the oldest made. The artical said they were safe

after 1950, I think.

Imogene

In a message dated 2/19/2007 9:30:15 PM Central Standard Time,

LadySmilingAtU2@... writes:

yes, the fiesta was the lead pieces, teh newer ones dont have it, but you

must be careful buying it from yard sales, fleamarkets, or antique stores, and

it is amazing that is probably something most of our lo's have incommon

eating off of leaded plates, i never htought of that, hmmmmm hugs sharon m

---- June Christensen wrote:

I don't think Franciscan had lead, it was Fiesta, and

the red and orange colors were the worst. There were

warnings that hot food should not be eaten from them,

as the lead would leach out.

--- Dena LEAVITT wrote:

[Guest guest]

Well----- you brought up another source. Aluminum. My MIL always used all

aluminum for cooking.

My darling was raised with it. MIL continued to use it all the years she was

alive. When we took over cleaning the house. I got rid of every last pan,

pot and lid.

Imogene

In a message dated 2/19/2007 10:38:11 PM Central Standard Time,

jchristensen1953@... writes:

My husband didn't eat from lead-based plates, as I

know his mother didn't have any of them; the ones we

had were used very rarely for company, as generally I

had more people than dishes. However, his mother did

cook in aluminum cookware, and I had it for the first

several years we were married but then got stainless

steel. There was some thought that aluminum was

involved with AD, but they have since questioned that.

So, it's hard to tell, but given the fact that he was

the fifth of his siblings to get dementia, there could

have been some common link in their growing-up years.

Until they finally determine what causes it, I'm sure

we'll just wonder what happened. He had a head

injury, concussion, used lots of farm chemicals as

well as paint strippers and finishing materials, had

an anesthetic in 1995, and worked in a retail clothing

store for several years where there are lots of

chemicals used in clothing as well as all the perfumes

and colognes they sold, which at times you could smell

in several places in the store.

He also was a picky eater and wouldn't eat lots of

fruits and vegetables, liked lots of " meat and

potatoes " diet, and had a very sweet tooth. So, any

and all of those things might have contributed.

If only we knew...

LadySmilingAtU2@... wrote:

> yes, the fiesta was the lead pieces, teh newer ones

> dont have it, but you must be careful buying it from

> yard sales, fleamarkets, or antique stores, and it

> is amazing that is probably something most of our

> lo's have incommon eating off of leaded plates, i

> never htought of that, hmmmmm hugs sharon m

> ---- June Christensen

> wrote:

> I don't think Franciscan had lead, it was Fiesta,

> and

> the red and orange colors were the worst. There

> were

> warnings that hot food should not be eaten from

> them,

> as the lead would leach out.

> --- Dena LEAVITT wrote:

>

> > Hi Imogene

> >

> > Thanks for the warning I will check it out.

> >

> > Dena in So Cal

> > Mother (84) Living with LBD in NH

> > --- Iward27663@... wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > The older Franciscan ware had lead in it. You

> may

> > > want to check that out

> > > before passing anyof them on without a warning.

> We

> > > gave a large set to Don's

> > > daughter, but some of the older peices had lead.

> > We

> > > told her to test them before

> > > using. I would not want anyone to use something

> > that

> > > is harmful.

> > > Imogene

> > >

> > > In a message dated 2/19/2007 2:52:23 PM Central

> > > Standard Time,

> > > jchristensen1953@... writes:

> > >

> > > Dena: What pattern is your Franciscan ware?

> > Don't

> > > just give it away. Some of the patterns are

> very

> > > collectible; i.e., Desert Rose, Apple, and

> > others.

> > > Also original tickets to events often sell well

> on

> > > E-Bay. Also, if your clock is red from the

> 50s,

> > I

> > > have a customer wanting one.

> > >

> > > June

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

yes, the fiesta was the lead pieces, teh newer ones dont have it, but you must

be careful buying it from yard sales, fleamarkets, or antique stores, and it is

amazing that is probably something most of our lo's have incommon eating off of

leaded plates, i never htought of that, hmmmmm hugs sharon m

---- June Christensen wrote:

I don't think Franciscan had lead, it was Fiesta, and

the red and orange colors were the worst. There were

warnings that hot food should not be eaten from them,

as the lead would leach out.

--- Dena LEAVITT wrote:

> Hi Imogene

>

> Thanks for the warning I will check it out.

>

> Dena in So Cal

> Mother (84) Living with LBD in NH

> --- Iward27663@... wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > The older Franciscan ware had lead in it. You may

> > want to check that out

> > before passing anyof them on without a warning. We

> > gave a large set to Don's

> > daughter, but some of the older peices had lead.

> We

> > told her to test them before

> > using. I would not want anyone to use something

> that

> > is harmful.

> > Imogene

> >

> > In a message dated 2/19/2007 2:52:23 PM Central

> > Standard Time,

> > jchristensen1953@... writes:

> >

> > Dena: What pattern is your Franciscan ware?

> Don't

> > just give it away. Some of the patterns are very

> > collectible; i.e., Desert Rose, Apple, and

> others.

> > Also original tickets to events often sell well on

> > E-Bay. Also, if your clock is red from the 50s,

> I

> > have a customer wanting one.

> >

> > June

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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developed aspiration pneumonia 7/05 with pulmonary embolyis, which he almost

died from. He had a 2nd bout of aspiration pneumonia and uti 8/05. He died when

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My husband didn't eat from lead-based plates, as I

know his mother didn't have any of them; the ones we

had were used very rarely for company, as generally I

had more people than dishes. However, his mother did

cook in aluminum cookware, and I had it for the first

several years we were married but then got stainless

steel. There was some thought that aluminum was

involved with AD, but they have since questioned that.

So, it's hard to tell, but given the fact that he was

the fifth of his siblings to get dementia, there could

have been some common link in their growing-up years.

Until they finally determine what causes it, I'm sure

we'll just wonder what happened. He had a head

injury, concussion, used lots of farm chemicals as

well as paint strippers and finishing materials, had

an anesthetic in 1995, and worked in a retail clothing

store for several years where there are lots of

chemicals used in clothing as well as all the perfumes

and colognes they sold, which at times you could smell

in several places in the store.

He also was a picky eater and wouldn't eat lots of

fruits and vegetables, liked lots of " meat and

potatoes " diet, and had a very sweet tooth. So, any

and all of those things might have contributed.

If only we knew...

LadySmilingAtU2@... wrote:

> yes, the fiesta was the lead pieces, teh newer ones

> dont have it, but you must be careful buying it from

> yard sales, fleamarkets, or antique stores, and it

> is amazing that is probably something most of our

> lo's have incommon eating off of leaded plates, i

> never htought of that, hmmmmm hugs sharon m

> ---- June Christensen

> wrote:

> I don't think Franciscan had lead, it was Fiesta,

> and

> the red and orange colors were the worst. There

> were

> warnings that hot food should not be eaten from

> them,

> as the lead would leach out.

> --- Dena LEAVITT wrote:

>

> > Hi Imogene

> >

> > Thanks for the warning I will check it out.

> >

> > Dena in So Cal

> > Mother (84) Living with LBD in NH

> > --- Iward27663@... wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > The older Franciscan ware had lead in it. You

> may

> > > want to check that out

> > > before passing anyof them on without a warning.

> We

> > > gave a large set to Don's

> > > daughter, but some of the older peices had lead.

> > We

> > > told her to test them before

> > > using. I would not want anyone to use something

> > that

> > > is harmful.

> > > Imogene

> > >

> > > In a message dated 2/19/2007 2:52:23 PM Central

> > > Standard Time,

> > > jchristensen1953@... writes:

> > >

> > > Dena: What pattern is your Franciscan ware?

> > Don't

> > > just give it away. Some of the patterns are

> very

> > > collectible; i.e., Desert Rose, Apple, and

> > others.

> > > Also original tickets to events often sell well

> on

> > > E-Bay. Also, if your clock is red from the

> 50s,

> > I

> > > have a customer wanting one.

> > >

> > > June

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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> probably had lbd since 1993,.Dad had a serious fall

> in 7/05 causing him to hav hip surgery .After that

> he developed aspiration pneumonia 7/05 with

> pulmonary embolyis, which he almost died from. He

> had a 2nd bout of aspiration pneumonia and uti

> 8/05. He died when his blood pressure fluctuations

> started dropping without coming back up on 9/25/05,

> may he rest in peace with his mom and dad,

> a smile a day keeps the meanies away

>

>

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Hi Dena,

I have been on this site for a very short time. But I see your Mom's

condition sounds very similar to my Mom's. And they are the same age. I

wasn't sure if it was a usual occurrence to have eyes shut for two days at

a time. From your email, I see that it is. Dena, does she still recognize

you?

My Mom makes sense sometimes and does try hard to speak also. She also

understands quite a few things still, at times.

Thanks, Norma

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Hi

My Aunt will be in her own home I hope in a couple

more weeks, She has recovery fairly well. It has been

an experience to say the least.

My mom continues to eat well. That is basically what

keeps her alive. She does not have any swallowing

issues at this point and eats a mechanical soft diet.

She has her eyes open some days, but others they stay

shut. She very rarely makes any sense when she talks.

She tries though. I can't believe that she has been in

the NH for almost a year now. She was on Hospice for

10 months or so and they dropped her in October. No

reason to start back up that I can see.

Thanks for asking

Dena

Mother (84) Living with LBD in NH

--- stimtimminss wrote:

> Good to hear back from you Dena. How is your aunt

> recovering? I had hoped that by now

> she might be able to return home. Do you think that

> is a possible reality? You had

> enough to deal with before her accident! I assume

> you continue to work, and to be there

> as you can for your mother. Waaay too much! I

> understand why your husband had to

> simply pack up everything and deliver to your

> garage. Another huge job to undertake, but

> do it in whatever time frame you need. A difficult

> task. I am so sorry you are having to let

> the house go. I guess your mom is still doing " too

> well " to qualify for hospice?

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Hello All

> > > >

> > > > Again I am faced with a very heart wrenching

> > > decision.

> > > > It was so difficult to place my mom in the NH.

> I

> > > had

> > > > cared for her in my home for 10 months and

> then

> > > could

> > > > no longer do it and felt such guilt about

> " giving

> > > up " .

> > > > I later realized that I was not giving up, but

> > > just

> > > > changing my role. I am still her caregiver. I

> see

> > > her

> > > > daily or every other day. I do what I can for

> her

> > > > there. Now, I have had to place her home up

> for

> > > sale.

> > > > My father built this house. He was and

> electrical

> > > > contractor and did most of the work himself

> with

> > > the

> > > > help of friends. They moved in in Feb 1956.

> > > Ironic,

> > > > that this is the very month that we have moved

> > > > everything out and place it up for sale. My

> heart

> > > is

> > > > broken with grief. This is my only childhood

> home.

> > > I

> > > > feel like I am losing my father and mother all

> > > over

> > > > again. I know in my head that this is dumb. It

> is

> > > > after all just a house and I will always have

> all

> > > the

> > > > memories. But, wow is this hard too. It all

> boils

> > > down

> > > > to money. My mother does have other money in

> other

> > > > places, but we will lose a larger portion if

> we

> > > take

> > > > it out before her death. My husband and I do

> not

> > > want

> > > > to live there, neither do my children, so the

> most

> > > > sensible option is to sell it. My mom is not

> on

> > > > Medical and is a private pay person in her NH.

> I

> > > have

> > > > kept her in a private room which is a little

> more,

> > > but

> > > > not all that much. I am so trying to think

> with my

> > > > head and not my heart, but it is difficult.

> > > Cleaning

> > > > it all out was not really hard because I did

> not

> > > do

> > > > it. My poor husband spent days and days over

> there

> > > as

> > > > I was home caring for my Aunt who is living

> with

> > > us (I

> > > > hope temporally) since she broke her hip in

> > > December.

> > > > I also have injured my back helping her stand

> up.

> > > She

> > > > has really back arthritis and cannot bend her

> > > knees

> > > > very well. Believe me, this time of my life

> has

> > > been

> > > > rough. But I know that God has a plan and I am

> > > hanging

> > > > in there. I know many of you have had to sell

> > > homes.

> > > > Did you feel guilty like I am? Or is it

> because

> > > she is

> > > > still living and I feel like I am taking her

> home

> > > out

> > > > of under her? I just do not know why I am so

> > > emotional

> > > > and why I feel so much guilt for doing what I

> have

> > > to

> > > > do. Anyway, as usual, thanks for letting me

> vent

> > > and

> > > > being here to listen to me.

> > > >

> > > > Dena In So Cal

> > > > Mother (84) Living with LBD in NH

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

>

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,

What a wonderful attitude you have! Having the little ones help out--along with

everyone else--was such a great idea.

My kudos to you, Norma

[Guest guest]

Dena,

Can you tell me if your Mom has been on medication all of this time? My Mom has

been off the Reminyl and Namenda for quite some time and I keep wondering if

either one might make a difference.

Thank you, Norma

[Guest guest]

Hi Norma

My mom was on Aricept, Namenda, Risperdal, Clonazapam

and other blood pressure drugs, but the Hospice Dr.

removed her from all last year. Then he did this her

mind just totally went. In three weeks she could no

longer answer a simple yes or no question. She cannot

understand you and I cannot understand her to this day

and it is 12 months later. She has had a few glimmers

but they fade with the next breath. Yesterday, I asked

her " How are you doing today, Mom? " and she said, "

Well I thought she said so " That is a good day.

Usually I get no response at all and she hates to even

be touched now too. I cannot even hold her hand

anymore with out her trying to get away from me. It

just breaks my heart. So in her case removing the

drugs was a bad thing to do, but she settling into her

own world and was continent there. The good thing

about all this is that she does not know what is going

on. She does not ask to go home etc... She just lives

in the shell of who she once was and continues to be

stable and eats well. She may be like this for years

to come.

I hope this answers your question Norma

Dena in So Cal

Mother (84) Living with LBD in NH

--- Norma Loeb/CORPHQ/NYTIMES

wrote:

> Dena,

>

> Can you tell me if your Mom has been on medication

> all of this time? My Mom has been off the Reminyl

> and Namenda for quite some time and I keep wondering

> if either one might make a difference.

>

> Thank you, Norma

>

>

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Thank you very much, Dena. My Mom had been on Reminly and Namenda and

she's been off of them. I asked her new doctor for a prescription of

Aricept. She gave it to me, though she didn't think it would help her. I'm

wondering if I should put her on Namenda instead. Any suggestions from anyone?

I have an appointment with a neurologist (recommended by Dr. B - I forgot his

name, but he's the one who wrote the article on the LBD website) next month.

[Guest guest]

Hi Norma

I think I answered your question, at least part of it

in another email.

My mom's eyes are shut most of the time. If they are

open and she is alert she will say a few things that

make sense to her, but do not go along with any

conversation we are trying to have.

No I do not believe my mom recognizes me. It is a hard

thing to admit, but I do not think she knows me at

all, nor her sisters or brother that come to visit or

my daughter. Once about 4 or 5 months ago, she did get

this look when I walked in and say " Oh " like she knew

me, but never say another word.

I am happy for you that your mom is still able to

recognize you and have a conversation. We have not

done that in 13 months now.

Where do you live Norma? Sorry I do not remember.

Dena In So Cal

Mother (84) Living with LBD in NH

--- Norma Loeb/CORPHQ/NYTIMES

wrote:

>

> Hi Dena,

>

> I have been on this site for a very short time. But

> I see your Mom's

> condition sounds very similar to my Mom's. And they

> are the same age. I

> wasn't sure if it was a usual occurrence to have

> eyes shut for two days at

> a time. From your email, I see that it is. Dena,

> does she still recognize

> you?

>

> My Mom makes sense sometimes and does try hard to

> speak also. She also

> understands quite a few things still, at times.

>

> Thanks, Norma

>

>

>

>

>

> Dena LEAVITT

>

> <d_j_leavitt@yaho

>

> o.com>

> To

> Sent by:

> LBDcaregivers

> LBDcaregivers@yah

> cc

> oogroups.com

>

>

> Subject

> Re:

> Re: Selling my

> 02/16/2007 06:33 parents home

>

> PM

>

>

>

>

>

> Please respond to

>

> LBDcaregivers@yah

>

> oogroups.com

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi

>

> My Aunt will be in her own home I hope in a couple

> more weeks, She has recovery fairly well. It has

> been

> an experience to say the least.

>

> My mom continues to eat well. That is basically what

> keeps her alive. She does not have any swallowing

> issues at this point and eats a mechanical soft

> diet.

> She has her eyes open some days, but others they

> stay

> shut. She very rarely makes any sense when she

> talks.

> She tries though. I can't believe that she has been

> in

> the NH for almost a year now. She was on Hospice for

> 10 months or so and they dropped her in October. No

> reason to start back up that I can see.

>

> Thanks for asking

>

> Dena

> Mother (84) Living with LBD in NH

> --- stimtimminss wrote:

>

> > Good to hear back from you Dena. How is your aunt

> > recovering? I had hoped that by now

> > she might be able to return home. Do you think

> that

> > is a possible reality? You had

> > enough to deal with before her accident! I assume

> > you continue to work, and to be there

> > as you can for your mother. Waaay too much! I

> > understand why your husband had to

> > simply pack up everything and deliver to your

> > garage. Another huge job to undertake, but

> > do it in whatever time frame you need. A

> difficult

> > task. I am so sorry you are having to let

> > the house go. I guess your mom is still doing

> " too

> > well " to qualify for hospice?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello All

> > > > >

> > > > > Again I am faced with a very heart wrenching

> > > > decision.

> > > > > It was so difficult to place my mom in the

> NH.

> > I

> > > > had

> > > > > cared for her in my home for 10 months and

> > then

> > > > could

> > > > > no longer do it and felt such guilt about

> > " giving

>

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Hi

Yes, I did mean $20,000. We looked it up on the the

website and the clock was built in 1915. It is a

Herschede Hall Clock. My parents never even had it in

the house!! It was in the garage. A man needed to

borrow some money from my dad and left the clock as

collateral. He never paid him back, nor came for the

clock and that was in 1975. My mom even kept his

obituary when the man died in her filing system. She

kept excellent records as she was a secretary for the

government. She even worked on the " Manhattan Project "

in Hollywood years ago. Anyway, a clock just sold for

that on there website. This clock is in good

condition, but needs a little TLC. It my not be worth

that, but others were selling for that price. My

husband was going to try to get it to work, but now we

have decided that an expert should look at it not us.

We have given away very little so far. Most of it is

packed in boxes in my garage now. So we are trying to

be careful.

Dena in So Cal

Mother (84) Living with LBD in NH

--- stimtimminss wrote:

> Hey Dena,

> Did you really mean to write that the clock is worth

> $20,000? It just shows we should take

> time with the sorting and pitching! Hard to

> believe.

>

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dena: Of course, it is hard to lose the

> home

>

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Thank you again, Dena. My mother's speech is worse this week. I'm

wondering if a medication can help. Maybe there have been too many

different caregivers. Maybe she needs to get out! She is barely making sense

in most of her talking and can't follow conversations. But I couldn't believe

how well she answered pointed questions by her doctor two weeks ago! It was

amazing. She was beaming and answered questions after she thought about them.

I feel like bringing her there every week! But it just shows me that there are

possibilities. I just haven't tapped into them as yet. But I'll keep trying.

I live in New York, Dena.

[Guest guest]

Norma

I think Aricept is usually used in the beginning

stages of LBD. It keep my mom in her own home for 10

more months. It was like a miracle for her. However,

most people do not have that type of reaction here. It

seems that it does some good for some, but not for

others. So don't get your hopes up. Each individual is

different.

Namenda seemed to have little affect on my mom. She

took it with the Aricept and by the time we started

it, she was really having a lot of difficulties, so I

am not sure if it was the drug or the timing of the

drug.

Just the best advise is start with a low dosage and go

slow. Caution is the best.

Dena in So Cal

Mother (84) Living with LBD in NH

--- Norma Loeb/CORPHQ/NYTIMES

wrote:

> Thank you very much, Dena. My Mom had been on

> Reminly and Namenda and

> she's been off of them. I asked her new doctor for

> a prescription of

> Aricept. She gave it to me, though she didn't think

> it would help her. I'm wondering if I should put her

> on Namenda instead. Any suggestions from anyone? I

> have an appointment with a neurologist (recommended

> by Dr. B - I forgot his name, but he's the one who

> wrote the article on the LBD website) next month.

>

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wow awesome find!!!! sharon m

---- Dena LEAVITT wrote:

Hi

Yes, I did mean $20,000. We looked it up on the the

website and the clock was built in 1915. It is a

Herschede Hall Clock. My parents never even had it in

the house!! It was in the garage. A man needed to

borrow some money from my dad and left the clock as

collateral. He never paid him back, nor came for the

clock and that was in 1975. My mom even kept his

obituary when the man died in her filing system. She

kept excellent records as she was a secretary for the

government. She even worked on the " Manhattan Project "

in Hollywood years ago. Anyway, a clock just sold for

that on there website. This clock is in good

condition, but needs a little TLC. It my not be worth

that, but others were selling for that price. My

husband was going to try to get it to work, but now we

have decided that an expert should look at it not us.

We have given away very little so far. Most of it is

packed in boxes in my garage now. So we are trying to

be careful.

Dena in So Cal

Mother (84) Living with LBD in NH

--- stimtimminss wrote:

> Hey Dena,

> Did you really mean to write that the clock is worth

> $20,000? It just shows we should take

> time with the sorting and pitching! Hard to

> believe.

>

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dena: Of course, it is hard to lose the

> home

>

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I am daugher of Leonard, diagnosed May 2004, probably had lbd since 1993,.Dad

had a serious fall in 7/05 causing him to hav hip surgery .After that he

developed aspiration pneumonia 7/05 with pulmonary embolyis, which he almost

died from. He had a 2nd bout of aspiration pneumonia and uti 8/05. He died when

his blood pressure fluctuations started dropping without coming back up on

9/25/05,

may he rest in peace with his mom and dad,

a smile a day keeps the meanies away

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Dena.

[Guest guest]

Norma,

Do you think it might be a UTI causing the sudden change? It's amazing

the decline you will see when their system gets compromised...usually

temporary once treated.

Daughter of Bill, 91

>

> Thank you again, Dena. My mother's speech is worse this week. I'm

> wondering if a medication can help. Maybe there have been too many

> different caregivers. Maybe she needs to get out! She is barely

making sense in most of her talking and can't follow conversations.

But I couldn't believe how well she answered pointed questions by her

doctor two weeks ago! It was amazing. She was beaming and answered

questions after she thought about them. I feel like bringing her there

every week! But it just shows me that there are possibilities. I just

haven't tapped into them as yet. But I'll keep trying.

>

> I live in New York, Dena.

>