Re: Re: cortisol - reply

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Atlanta Girl wrote: I'm wondering about E and thyroid. As I posted above to anne, I found I needed to lower my E and I think a part of my high E needs were compensatory for deficient thyroid. As Langer points out in Guardian of Health, we can have 4 different types of thyroid deficiency, one of which is normal numbers that don't tell of the failure of the cells to absorb it. They found that the basil body temperature is the best measure all around. This first, then right there with it, symptoms. Eileen, when I started titrating my thyroid meds, I took temp for the longest time. Nuimom and I have had numerous discussions about E and thyroid and I do think that high(er) E slows down the thyroid. I became more thyroid

deficient after starting WP (for newbies, I am no longer doing the WP protocol). If I remember correctly, I think Wiley herself had said early on that women using high E may need more thyroid support. What the exact mechanism is beyond me. I cannot lower my E more than I already have. 6mg is the lowest and preferrably I do 9 mg/day. Otherwise I get brain fog, aches and pains, stomach issues like IBS. I also have to take that kind of dosing because recently I hurt my spine (bulging disk) moving boxes and it makes a big difference how much E I take. I actually put E right on my spine. If I forget I have much more pain. At some point I was up to 3 grains, then my temp went way up and I started to feel hyper. Now that I am doing one Iodoral and iodine

topically on the breast I have been lowering the Armour to 1 grain - that may be a little low for me, but adding 5 mg of Cortisol twice a day seems to work. I do think the Iodoral/iodine application plays a crucial role here as well. My son was here for Xmas and had a flight out to Ithaca, NY from Seattle. The day he was to leave, he got this horrific stomach flu coming apart at both ends. We tried changing his airline ticket but the price was exorbitant. I suggested enemas ala Hulda with Lugol and he did it 3x and was able to pull himself together to take the all night Red-eye flight and other than being dead tired he had no other symptoms of the flu. Powerful stuff iodine!!! Happy New Year! Madeleen http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/growhair/ __________________________________________________

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Madeleen, have you tried Cortef 5mg 4 times a day?

Sounds like you were having low adrenal symptoms - higher temp and feeling

hyEr. asically not enough cortisol to open T-receptors to get T hormones

into the cells and out of the bloodstream.

The Iodoral seems to help the body use thyroid hormones more efficiently

(thyroid hormones = iodine atoms). And the whole body needs it.

After I went on it (50mg/day) I needed to lower my Armour from 12 to 11

grains, and my BHRT lowered a tad.

Um, was it you that said you're thyroid numbers are mid-range and TSH

one point something? The important thing, despite the numbers, is how one

" feels " . From over on the yahoo group " thyroid " I have read over and over

that most humans feel best with their " numbers " (the Frees) are near the

top or a bit above the high normal range and the TSH almost zero.

When I was having blood tests run, I felt fantastic when my " numbers "

freaked out my doctors. <grin>

Sam

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> Atlanta Girl wrote:

> I'm wondering about E and thyroid. As I posted above to anne, I

> found I needed to lower my E and I think a part of my high E needs were

> compensatory for deficient thyroid. As Langer points out in Guardian

> of Health, we can have 4 different types of thyroid deficiency, one of

> which is normal numbers that don't tell of the failure of the cells to

> absorb it. They found that the basil body temperature is the best

> measure all around. This first, then right there with it, symptoms.

>

> Eileen, when I started titrating my thyroid meds, I took temp for the

> longest time. Nuimom and I have had numerous discussions about E and

> thyroid and I do think that high(er) E slows down the thyroid. I became

> more thyroid deficient after starting WP (for newbies, I am no longer

> doing the WP protocol). If I remember correctly, I think Wiley herself

> had said early on that women using high E may need more thyroid support.

> What the exact mechanism is beyond me.

>

> I cannot lower my E more than I already have. 6mg is the lowest and

> preferrably I do 9 mg/day. Otherwise I get brain fog, aches and pains,

> stomach issues like IBS. I also have to take that kind of dosing

> because recently I hurt my spine (bulging disk) moving boxes and it

> makes a big difference how much E I take. I actually put E right on my

> spine. If I forget I have much more pain.

>

> At some point I was up to 3 grains, then my temp went way up and I

> started to feel hyper. Now that I am doing one Iodoral and iodine

> topically on the breast I have been lowering the Armour to 1 grain -

> that may be a little low for me, but adding 5 mg of Cortisol twice a day

> seems to work. I do think the Iodoral/iodine application plays a

> crucial role here as well.

>

> My son was here for Xmas and had a flight out to Ithaca, NY from

> Seattle. The day he was to leave, he got this horrific stomach flu

> coming apart at both ends. We tried changing his airline ticket but the

> price was exorbitant. I suggested enemas ala Hulda with Lugol and

> he did it 3x and was able to pull himself together to take the all night

> Red-eye flight and other than being dead tired he had no other symptoms

> of the flu. Powerful stuff iodine!!!

>

> Happy New Year!

>

> Madeleen