RE: Astrolabe

[Guest guest]

Huh?

From: ACT_for_the_Public

[mailto:ACT_for_the_Public ] On

Behalf Of BILL CAMERON

Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009

3:25 PM

To: ACT_for_the_Public

Subject:

Astrolabe

An astrolabe

(Greek:

á¼ÏƒÏ„Ïολάβον astrolabon

'star-taker')[1] is a

historical astronomical instrument used by classical astronomers, navigators,

and astrologers.

Its many uses include locating and predicting the positions of the Sun, Moon, planets, and stars; determining

local time (given local latitude) and vice-versa; surveying; and triangulation.

In the medieval Islamic world, they were introduced by

Eastern Christian scholars[2] and

used primarily for astronomical studies, as well as in other areas

as diverse as astrology, geography, navigation, Qibla, Salah prayers, surveying,

and timekeeping. In

the European nations, astrolabes were used to construct horoscopes,

for astronomical studies, and for navigation.

There is often confusion between the astrolabe and the mariner's astrolabe. While the astrolabe could

be useful for determining latitude on land, it was an awkward instrument for

use on the heaving deck of a ship or in wind. The mariner's astrolabe was

developed to address these issues.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe

[Guest guest]

Thought some might enjoy a diversion from the sugar thread.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Astrolabe

 

 

An astrolabe (Greek <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language> : ??????????

astrolabon 'star-taker')[1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe#cite_note-0>

is a historical astronomical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical>

instrument <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measuring_instrument> used by

classical astronomers <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomy> , navigators

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navigators> , and astrologers

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrologers> . Its many uses include locating and

predicting the positions of the Sun <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun> , Moon

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon> , planets

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets> , and stars

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star> ; determining local time (given local

latitude) and vice-versa; surveying; and triangulation

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangulation> .

In the medieval Islamic world <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age>

, they were introduced by Eastern Christian scholars[2]

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe#cite_note-1> and used primarily for

astronomical studies <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_astronomy> , as well

as in other areas as diverse as astrology

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_astrology> , geography

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_in_medieval_Islam> , navigation

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner%27s_astrolabe> , Qibla

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qibla> , Salah

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salah> prayers, surveying

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveying> , and timekeeping

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time> . In the European nations, astrolabes were

used to construct horoscopes <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horoscopes> , for

astronomical studies, and for navigation.

There is often confusion between the astrolabe and the mariner's astrolabe

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner%27s_astrolabe> . While the astrolabe could

be useful for determining latitude on land, it was an awkward instrument for use

on the heaving deck of a ship or in wind. The mariner's astrolabe was developed

to address these issues.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe

[Guest guest]

How kind of you. It seems that you think the sugar thread is folly. I

agree.

BUT ...

When someone posts inaccurate information here, I feel obligated to point

out the inaccuracies in case someone believes the crap. So shoot me.

Your post, on the other hand, does nothing to clear up the issue. I

consider myself slapped but wouldn't change a thing I said.

Helena

Astrolabe

 

 

An astrolabe (Greek <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language> :

?????????? astrolabon 'star-taker')[1]

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe#cite_note-0> is a historical

astronomical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical> instrument

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measuring_instrument> used by classical

astronomers <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomy> , navigators

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navigators> , and astrologers

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrologers> . Its many uses include locating

and predicting the positions of the Sun <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun> ,

Moon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon> , planets

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets> , and stars

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star> ; determining local time (given local

latitude) and vice-versa; surveying; and triangulation

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangulation> .

In the medieval Islamic world

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age> , they were introduced by

Eastern Christian scholars[2]

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe#cite_note-1> and used primarily for

astronomical studies <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_astronomy> , as

well as in other areas as diverse as astrology

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_astrology> , geography

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_in_medieval_Islam> , navigation

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner%27s_astrolabe> , Qibla

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qibla> , Salah

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salah> prayers, surveying

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveying> , and timekeeping

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time> . In the European nations, astrolabes

were used to construct horoscopes <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horoscopes>

, for astronomical studies, and for navigation.

There is often confusion between the astrolabe and the mariner's astrolabe

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner%27s_astrolabe> . While the astrolabe

could be useful for determining latitude on land, it was an awkward

instrument for use on the heaving deck of a ship or in wind. The mariner's

astrolabe was developed to address these issues.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe

[Guest guest]

And how did this post serve the greater good of the ACT list? It seems to

be a critical and judgmental response to other posts that you deemed

inappropriate, but seems to have come from the ego and not from a desire to

provide useful information.

I may not post the 'wisdom' you purport to have, but I am honest and not

ego-driven.

Helena

Astrolabe

 

 

An astrolabe (Greek <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language> :

?????????? astrolabon 'star-taker')[1]

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe#cite_note-0> is a historical

astronomical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical> instrument

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measuring_instrument> used by classical

astronomers <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomy> , navigators

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navigators> , and astrologers

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrologers> . Its many uses include locating

and predicting the positions of the Sun <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun> ,

Moon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon> , planets

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets> , and stars

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star> ; determining local time (given local

latitude) and vice-versa; surveying; and triangulation

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangulation> .

In the medieval Islamic world

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age> , they were introduced by

Eastern Christian scholars[2]

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe#cite_note-1> and used primarily for

astronomical studies <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_astronomy> , as

well as in other areas as diverse as astrology

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_astrology> , geography

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_in_medieval_Islam> , navigation

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner%27s_astrolabe> , Qibla

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qibla> , Salah

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salah> prayers, surveying

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveying> , and timekeeping

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time> . In the European nations, astrolabes

were used to construct horoscopes <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horoscopes>

, for astronomical studies, and for navigation.

There is often confusion between the astrolabe and the mariner's astrolabe

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner%27s_astrolabe> . While the astrolabe

could be useful for determining latitude on land, it was an awkward

instrument for use on the heaving deck of a ship or in wind. The mariner's

astrolabe was developed to address these issues.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe

[Guest guest]

And this post illustrates just what an asshole

I am.

I apologize, Bill.

From: ACT_for_the_Public

[mailto:ACT_for_the_Public ] On

Behalf Of Helena Rychener

Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009

4:39 PM

To: 'BILL CAMERON ';

'ACT_for_the_Public '

Subject: RE:

Astrolabe

And how did this post serve the greater good of the

ACT list? It seems to

be a critical and judgmental response to other posts that you deemed

inappropriate, but seems to have come from the ego and not from a desire to

provide useful information.

I may not post the 'wisdom' you purport to have, but I am honest and not

ego-driven.

Helena

Astrolabe

An astrolabe (Greek <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language>

:

?????????? astrolabon 'star-taker')[1]

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe#cite_note-0>

is a historical

astronomical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical>

instrument

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measuring_instrument>

used by classical

astronomers <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomy>

, navigators

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navigators>

, and astrologers

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrologers>

.. Its many uses include locating

and predicting the positions of the Sun <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun>

,

Moon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon>

, planets

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets>

, and stars

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star>

; determining local time (given local

latitude) and vice-versa; surveying; and triangulation

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangulation>

..

In the medieval Islamic world

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age>

, they were introduced by

Eastern Christian scholars[2]

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe#cite_note-1>

and used primarily for

astronomical studies <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_astronomy>

, as

well as in other areas as diverse as astrology

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_astrology>

, geography

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_in_medieval_Islam>

, navigation

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner%27s_astrolabe>

, Qibla

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qibla>

, Salah

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salah>

prayers, surveying

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveying>

, and timekeeping

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time>

.. In the European nations, astrolabes

were used to construct horoscopes <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horoscopes>

, for astronomical studies, and for navigation.

There is often confusion between the astrolabe and the mariner's astrolabe

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner%27s_astrolabe>

.. While the astrolabe

could be useful for determining latitude on land, it was an awkward

instrument for use on the heaving deck of a ship or in wind. The mariner's

astrolabe was developed to address these issues.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe

[Guest guest]

Accepted. Is your "assholeness" a useful thought?I'm working on an invention - placing a time delay on the email SEND button with a prompt later that asks "Are you sure you want to send this email?" I think it would be a big seller. I would buy it. Interested?BillTo: ACT_for_the_Public From: hbbr@...Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:25:44 -0500Subject: RE: Astrolabe

And this post illustrates just what an asshole

I am.

I apologize, Bill.

From: ACT_for_the_Public

[mailto:ACT_for_the_Public ] On

Behalf Of Helena Rychener

Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009

4:39 PM

To: 'BILL CAMERON ';

'ACT_for_the_Public '

Subject: RE:

Astrolabe

And how did this post serve the greater good of the

ACT list? It seems to

be a critical and judgmental response to other posts that you deemed

inappropriate, but seems to have come from the ego and not from a desire to

provide useful information.

I may not post the 'wisdom' you purport to have, but I am honest and not

ego-driven.

Helena

Astrolabe

An astrolabe (Greek <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language>

:

?????????? astrolabon 'star-taker')[1]

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe#cite_note-0>

is a historical

astronomical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical>

instrument

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measuring_instrument>

used by classical

astronomers <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomy>

, navigators

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navigators>

, and astrologers

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrologers>

.. Its many uses include locating

and predicting the positions of the Sun <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun>

,

Moon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon>

, planets

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets>

, and stars

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star>

; determining local time (given local

latitude) and vice-versa; surveying; and triangulation

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangulation>

..

In the medieval Islamic world

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age>

, they were introduced by

Eastern Christian scholars[2]

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe#cite_note-1>

and used primarily for

astronomical studies <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_astronomy>

, as

well as in other areas as diverse as astrology

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_astrology>

, geography

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_in_medieval_Islam>

, navigation

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner%27s_astrolabe>

, Qibla

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qibla>

, Salah

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salah>

prayers, surveying

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveying>

, and timekeeping

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time>

.. In the European nations, astrolabes

were used to construct horoscopes <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horoscopes>

, for astronomical studies, and for navigation.

There is often confusion between the astrolabe and the mariner's astrolabe

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner%27s_astrolabe>

.. While the astrolabe

could be useful for determining latitude on land, it was an awkward

instrument for use on the heaving deck of a ship or in wind. The mariner's

astrolabe was developed to address these issues.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe

[Guest guest]

Yes, my asshole-nests is a useful thought

because it taught me that flinging out knee-jerk responses based on initial

emotions is not a good thing. So my

mistake taught me something.

NO, I am not interested in the delay button. I think we learn as much from the replies

we choose to send immediately as we

do from the ones we delay. Your

invention would stymie a lot of learning potential. It would keep us safer, but who wants

safe when it comes to learning about each other? It may not be pretty, but we need to let

expression happen.

Helena

From: ACT_for_the_Public

[mailto:ACT_for_the_Public ] On

Behalf Of BILL CAMERON

Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009

5:15 PM

To: ACT_for_the_Public

Subject: RE:

Astrolabe

Accepted.

Is your " assholeness " a useful thought?

I'm working on an invention - placing a time delay on the email SEND button

with a prompt later that asks " Are you sure you want to send this

email? " I think it would be a big seller. I would buy it. Interested?

Bill

To: ACT_for_the_Public

From: hbbr@...

Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:25:44 -0500

Subject: RE: Astrolabe

And

this post illustrates just what an asshole I am.

I

apologize, Bill.

From:

ACT_for_the_Public [mailto:ACT_for_the_Public ] On Behalf Of Helena Rychener

Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009

4:39 PM

To: 'BILL CAMERON '; 'ACT_for_the_Public

'

Subject: RE:

Astrolabe

And how did this post serve the greater good of the ACT

list? It seems to

be a critical and judgmental response to other posts that you deemed

inappropriate, but seems to have come from the ego and not from a desire to

provide useful information.

I may not post the 'wisdom' you purport to have, but I am honest and not

ego-driven.

Helena

Astrolabe

An astrolabe (Greek <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language>

:

?????????? astrolabon 'star-taker')[1]

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe#cite_note-0>

is a historical

astronomical <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical>

instrument

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measuring_instrument>

used by classical

astronomers <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomy>

, navigators

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navigators>

, and astrologers

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrologers>

.. Its many uses include locating

and predicting the positions of the Sun <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun>

,

Moon <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon>

, planets

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets>

, and stars

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star>

; determining local time (given local

latitude) and vice-versa; surveying; and triangulation

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangulation>

..

In the medieval Islamic world

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age>

, they were introduced by

Eastern Christian scholars[2]

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe#cite_note-1>

and used primarily for

astronomical studies <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_astronomy>

, as

well as in other areas as diverse as astrology

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_astrology>

, geography

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_in_medieval_Islam>

, navigation

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner%27s_astrolabe>

, Qibla

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qibla>

, Salah

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salah>

prayers, surveying

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surveying>

, and timekeeping

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time>

.. In the European nations, astrolabes

were used to construct horoscopes <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horoscopes>

, for astronomical studies, and for navigation.

There is often confusion between the astrolabe and the mariner's astrolabe

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner%27s_astrolabe>

.. While the astrolabe

could be useful for determining latitude on land, it was an awkward

instrument for use on the heaving deck of a ship or in wind. The mariner's

astrolabe was developed to address these issues.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolabe