Guest guest Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 Hi Joyce! Welcome to the group! As far as the "alligator hands", have you talked to your doctors (or vice versa) about Scleroderma? Just a thought. It causes thickened, hardened skin, etc. I have lupus, FM, Sjogren's, and Raynaud's, etc. Scleroderma is a possibility maybe. Talk with your doctors about it. As far as your tests, good luck. Hope they find what is wrong! It's great that you found such a wonderful rheumy! Laurie nanijoyce wrote: Hi, My name is Joyce... I have lupus. Was diagnosed in 1992 ... just started with a new rheumy and he seems Very thorough and examined me like no one has in the past! I went to him on Tuesday and he had me at the hospital on Thursday for two CT Scans on my chest and abdomen. Haven't gotten the results yet, but hope he finds why my body is soooo swollen!I do have a problem I have never had ... the palm of my hands feel like alligator skin ??? My sjorgens is acting up and my eyes have been running and irrated, but didn't know if this was connected or not. Anyone had anything like this? I have put all kinds of lotion on ... etc., but nothing seems to help.Thanks for any help!My prayer is a "pain-free" day for all!!!"The LUPIES Store" Come check out our store...http://www.cafepress.com/thelupies"The LUPIES Web Page"http://www.itzarion.com/lupusgroup.html"The LUPIES online photo albums!" Check out what your fellow Lupies look like...http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=lupies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 Joyce, Hello and welcome. I have " peeling palms " , too. Mostly it happens when I am running a low grade fever from inflammation. Since I not only have Lupus, but also Rheumatoid Arthritis, Sjogren's, Lyme Disease, and diabetes, it is a toss up which is causing the inflammation on any given day, but most of them can cause the fevers. When a fever has stayed with me for more than 24 hours, my palms become dry and rough, and start to peel. My Rheumy and my Dermatologist both think it is my body's way of reacting to nerve damage caused by the almost constant inflammation. I think it's anybody's guess, myself. As for the Sjogren's, my eyes, ears, mouth, nose, vagina, etc. are extremely dry and easily irritated. I must use eye drops to moisturize my eyes several times a day...so I don't have the tearing that you are describing. Are you living in a high pollen area? That could account for it, too. Glad to hear from you, and keep on writing. We are here 24/7, have members around the world, so someone is almost always online. Again, Welcome. Hugs, MM aka: Mike one of the moderators Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2002 Report Share Posted September 14, 2002 hello , My name is Trish, I am 30 going to be 31 very soon. I am married to a wonderful man , it will be 10 years for us Nov 4th this year. God has blessed me with two beautiful children (she will be 9 years old sept 24th) and {6 years old oct 24th). I was diagnosed with systematic Lupus July 3rd this year, it effects my kidneys and joints. I get tired easily also. Nice to met you and welcome ) Trish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2002 Report Share Posted September 14, 2002 Hi, , and welcome. I am 53, adoptive mother of four, grandmother of two, and was dx'd with Lupus, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Sjogren's, Fibromyalgia, Lyme Disease and Diabetes all between the ages of 30 and 45. However, the symptoms started in childhood. It just took most of my life to diagnose the cause of it all. I live in no. Calif. about 50 miles from San Francisco and about 30 miles inland from the Pacific Ocean. Nice area, but expensive. How nice to get a lovely new baby...after all that suffering. I was never able to carry my own babies, so I went out and got O.P.'s (other people's). LOL I have two boys still at home, ages 10 and 14. The teenager is in the throes of first love, and the younger one in the throes of being the much put upon youngest brother. I often introduce my youngest as " my son, the mouth " , and my teen as " my son, the Arab negotiator, Mr. Yeah-but-can-I? " Pronounced Yabbit Kinai. He thinks everything is negotiable, no matter what the established rules are. Gets a bit wearing after a while on my bad days, but he's a good boy for the most part. My youngest is ADHD, so if I have a brain fart and forget to give him his meds in the morning, Boy, Howdy! what a day do we have. LOL Well, enough about me. Glad to have you aboard. Please write as often as you like, it's good to vent, whine, cry, laugh, carry on, etc. with the rest of us. We are all in the same kind of boat, just that some are leakier than others. Hugs, MM aka: Mike one of the moderators Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2002 Report Share Posted September 14, 2002 , Welcome to this wonderful group. I am new to group also. I live in southern california. I was diagnosed with Lupus in June. I also have hashimoto's thyroditis. I take unithroid for thyroid, plaquenil, lotensin for high blood pressure, prevacid for acid reflux and I am menopausal at 46. I probably had thyroid condition since childhood. It was never diagnosed till 92. I was never able to have a child. I get depressed sometimes because of all of these issues! I have faith that God will never leave me or forsake me. I am involved with different churches and I find alot of comfort listening to christian radio. I have aKatrina(cat) and my Dear to help me. I have a stressful job working with battered women and I hope I can continue to work. You will love this group. They are a wonderful, caring and supportive group! New to group > Hello to all > > My name is Dunn. I am 41 years old. I was diagnosed with Lupus > almost two years ago only weeks after I learned that I was pregnant. > I feel very forutnate because the only symptoms I have had are joint > pain, fever, fatigue, skin lesions, hair loss and Raynaud's. > > The pregnancy was pure hell as no one would treat my lupus symptoms > which were insufferable at times. The outcome was great. We have a > beautiful baby boy, , who is about to have his first birthday. > > I have one other child, Krysta who will be graduating in June, and > two step-daughters Hope (17) and Kelsey (10). > > My husband, , is very supportive, I don't know what I'd do > without him. > > I work for a professional guardian for incapacitated adults. I am > able to do much of my work from home. Which is very helpful when I am > having a rough day. > > I am thrilled to have found this group and look forward to getting to > know all of you. > > > > " The LUPIES Store " Come check out our store... > http://www.cafepress.com/thelupies > > " The LUPIES Web Page " > http://www.itzarion.com/lupusgroup.html > > " The LUPIES online photo albums! " > Check out what your fellow Lupies look like... > http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=lupies > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2002 Report Share Posted September 15, 2002 Hi . My name is Lynn and I was diagnosed with SLE and Fibromyalgia about 5 years ago after the birth of my fourth ( and last) son. I have pretty much the same symptoms as you do, so I guess we are both fairly mild. I work in the local hospital at night. I have been married for 10 years to my husband, . This is a wonderful group of people who are all very supportive. Lynn ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 Deb, thank you for responding to my message. I had a routine blood/urine test and so I am not sure what my doctor was looking at that he could or would say that I had low thyroid function and that the Synthroid would help my fatigue. You were correct, it is not my BIN but my BUN that was 31 (range 5-26). I have chronic UTI's which are treated with 1 antibiotic one day each week forever. I suffered from uti's for 3 years until my present doctor got me under control. Can you tell me what to look for on a routine blood test that would make my doctor think my thyroid was sluggish or slow or low? I know I should talk to him, but I just saw him and didn't ask the right questions. Thank you, Joy Re: New to group > Hi Joy, > > I'm Debbie and I'm new here also. I'm a lab tech by trade, so I'm > going to take a guess here.....I haven't really heard of a test > referred to as BIN (although some labs have their own unique > terminology), but there is a test called BUN (blood urea nitrogen) > and it is part of a normal chemistry profile. The normal range for > that typically runs 5-25 (although normals can vary from lab to > lab). If it is the BUN your speaking of, it is actually a > measurement of kidney function, but is also weighed in relation to > the creatinine level to determine overall kidney function. Other > things (benign) can cause transient elevations in this so unless your > other labs are really high, which you said they were not, I wouldn't > worry about it (if it is the BUN we're speaking of). > > Also sounds like if your thyroids were normal, that your doc may be > doing the same thing as mine is and that's " treating " you because of > your symptoms if your levels are in the low end range of " normal " . > > Deb > > > > > > > > > Hi. My name is Joy and excuse me if I sound ignorant of all the > facts, but I am. I > > > went for my annual checkup and was told I was fine. I complained > of being really > > > tired and fatigued at times and then the doctor told me I was > borderline low thyroid. > > > He suggested I take medication Synthroid .075. He said it was > really not a medication > > > but a replacement and it should have no side effects, but if I > felt it did to call > > > him, and try it for 4-6 weeks to see if I am feeling better. He > thought it would help > > > quite a bit. I asked for a copy of my blood test. The only > thing 'out of the normal > > > range' was something labeled BIN (the range was I think 0-25) and > I was 31. Do you > > > know what BIN is? I got the copy of the blood test after I left > his office and so > > > didn't have the chance to ask him. What should I be looking at > on this test? Since I > > > am told I am borderline, should I take Synthroid, try to treat > myself the natural way, > > > or don't take anything as I am only borderline. What should > being low thyroid mean to > > > me, as I don't know much about it? Thank you so much. Joy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 Hi Joy. There's a potential difficulty here. First, most conventional docs go by an outdated, erroneous measure for thyroid function. Namely, they look primarily at lab results for TSH, and if your number falls between .5 to 5.0 (some labs are different, but most are similar to this), they say you are normal. BUT, Joy, you are not normal if you have symptomology of low thyroid, namely easy fatigue, cold extremities, thinning hair, dry hair, brittle nails, high cholesterol...etc. You could have these symptoms even if your TSH was 3, right smack in the middle of the so-called normal range. Some people even have those symptoms with a 2. And a lot of us don't feel good until that TSH is <1!!! Additionally, you need a FREE T3 and and FREE T4 test. These measure the available useable hormones in your system. And they need to be in the upper end of each respective range. There are many people who have so-called normal TSH, yet have a FT3 in the low end. THAT is indicative of a poorly functioning thyroid. In fact, Joy, the FT3 and FT4 are far more important than the TSH. So again, the problem is---do you have a conventional doc who has no idea how to properly diagnose low-thyroid!?! I am suspicious that you have one of those. Additionally, many of us can attest to you that Natural Hormones are by far superior for the treatment of low thyroid than ANY synthetic. Sure, a synthetic will lower your TSH, and you will feel better in many ways. BUT, you may not. And even if you do, there WILL be other symptoms that the synthetic T4 (Synthroid) will not help, and will only make worse over the long haul!!!! The theory is that synthetics are all that we need since the body converts the T4 to T3. BUT, most of us need MORE T3 than the body can convert from T4. And we all need direct T3---what only a natural hormone can provide. Plus there are other hormones provided by naturals that are important, such as T2, and the unknown activities of T1, etc. This is a lot to digest if you are new to this. But I hope you can trust this info, and see if your doc will also listen to you about this. IF not, we highly suggest a different doc. We can provice you with a Top Doc list. Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 > Hello all, > > I am new to the group, hypothyroid for nearly ten years. I am > another example of the failure of synthroid administered by an endo > who thought lab results were the only measure of thyroid balance. > After several years on synthroid, I became an " old woman " still in > my 30's. Brittle hair, dry skin, depression, foggy thinking, weight > gain (50+ lbs!), low blood pressure, fatigue. Yet, somehow, my > endo, then my GP said that it all had NOTHING TO DO WITH MY THYROID. > HUH???? > Hi Leigh! I like your name...its my middle name, spelled the same. Anyway, nice to meet you. I too am the old woman at only 32, so welcome to the club. But I hope my self-education will return me to my youth again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Got you beat: I guess I am now the old woman of the group at 39. Hmmm, not something I want to be able to claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 In a message dated 2/28/03 10:04:10 AM US Eastern Standard Time, usns@... writes: > plus > correcting a low testosterone along with female hormone support I tried testosterone but the base it was compounded was so disgusting that I couldn't take it. The taste made me gag within a few seconds and I can stand pretty nasty tasting things but not that. So I tried DHEA and it really helped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Hi Leigh. Welcome! We need to start an " Endo Hall of Shame " list!! They continue to UNamaze us. I have a few thoughts for you. It's great that you switched to Cytomel! And if you want to stay that route, it definitely sounds like you are simply not getting enough. The symptoms you describe are indicative of that fact. Your free T3 needs to be in the upper part of the range to eliminate the symptoms you describe. Have you had that tested recently?? The reason I did not switch to Cytomel is that I was impressed with the fact that Armour gave me the exact same hormones that my own thyroid gives me---T4, T3, T2, T1 and calcitonin. I am also affected by the fact that synthetics are simply not the same as natural, and our bodies do not receive synthetics via receptors as it does a product that MATCHES on system, as natural thyroid does. If I was in your shoes (with what I know now), yes, I would switch to natural thyroid like Armour. Additionally, I would keep increasing it until the symptoms you describe go away (and they will, contrary to what your doc says), and also monitor it by occasionally doing the labs and trying to get my free T3 to the upper end. Once you find your optimal dose of Armour, then you can also look at things like your female hormones, and possibly even adrenals. About the time I was reaching my optimal dose, I also made a switch to natural female hormones--bio-identical via cream. But what made another big impact on me was to discover that my testosterone was low. We added that to the cream, and viola, one of my major leftover symptoms disappeared on it after 2 1/2 weeks. I think I am as near to normal as I have EVER been in my entire adult life!! I do NOT agree with your doc that you can only get to 80-90%. I am LIVING PROOF of that. It's just a matter of taking the right meds, doing lots of experimenting as far as the dosage you need, and also taking a look at ANY other aspect of your body that may need attention (vitamins, minerals, etc., female hormones, etc.) Also to add one more thing to consider, but only down the line: one top doc (Dommisse) feels that T3-only doesn't work in the long run because you are failing to get adequate amounts of the storage hormone T4. Even with his Armour patients, he adds a small amount of T4 to the mix. (Armour has a T4/T3 ration of 80/20; your own thyroid, if healthy, is 93/7. So he tries to imitate that as much as possible.) I have not added a small amount of T4 to my Armour. It was adding the testosterone to my Bi-est/Progesterone/DHEA cream that did the final trick for me!! Yes, be thankful for where you are---a 60 lb. weight loss is WONDERFUL, too!! But yes, you can do MUCH BETTER. I am living proof. Janie, with a son named Leigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 > I too am the old woman at only 32, so welcome to the club. But I hope my > self-education will return me to my youth again! > > I am 51 this Sunday, and switching to Armour thyroid, plus correcting a low testosterone along with female hormone support, HAS made me in better condition that when I was 32!!!! I just need to get back into fitness now! Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Naw... You're still a pup... I'm 45.... *smile* Topper () http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The_Thyroid_Support_Group/ http://toppertwo.tripod.com On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 09:50:24 EST topaz0803@... writes: > Got you beat: I guess I am now the old woman of the group at 39. > Hmmm, not > something I want to be able to claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 In a message dated 2/28/03 4:29:36 PM US Eastern Standard Time, l.kavouklis@... writes: > these darned bags under my eyes won't go away While the underlying problem won't be fixed, one thing to make those bags look better is to put a little preparation H on them. Sounds silly but helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 I have never tried it but I know models use it and I have friends who swear by it! So far, I haven't developed that problem! Thank goodness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Re: new to group Hi Leigh. Welcome! We need to start an " Endo Hall of Shame " list!! They continue to UNamaze us. Hi Janie, Thanks for your thoughtful post. I never knew I had so many soulmates out there - living in this unexplained hell that we have all lived in for so long. We have tried increasing cytomel, but had headaches and irratability, and felt " YUCK " . My endo thinks I'm where I should be dosage wise. I know that he does check for free T3 and T4, and doesn't use the standard norms for these. Unfortunately, I tossed my last labs. I am considering asking him his opinion about Armour, or adding a little T4 also - but I get the feeling he would have offered those options already if he were willing to give them a try. What I'm really worried about is perhaps it's the Wellbutrin that I take that has me feeling so much better, and not the cytomel at all. Of all these lingering symptoms, the foggy thinking and these darn puffs under my eyes are the ones that bother me most. I lose 60 pounds, and have my old body back and these darned bags under my eyes won't go away! The endo says there isn't anything I can do. Tell me ladies.... is he wrong? Please say it's possible for one's face to return to normal! With some ammunition, perhaps I could persuade him to try something different. Thanks Janie for giving me hope for finally be whole once more. I really appreciate your suggestions! Leigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Hi Leigh, Have you ever been elvauated for Thyroid Eye disease or been tested for Grave's? Just a thought. But I get swelling and edema under and around my eyes, especially in the morning. Mine tends to let up mid day, but it does blur my vision and I can " feel " it, which I hate. If yours is from edema from the hypo too, I would think it would go away, if not improve a lot, with proper treatment. Re: new to group > > > Hi Leigh. Welcome! We need to start an " Endo Hall of Shame " list!! > They continue to UNamaze us. > > Hi Janie, > > Thanks for your thoughtful post. I never knew I had so many soulmates out there - living in this unexplained hell that we have all lived in for so long. > > We have tried increasing cytomel, but had headaches and irratability, and felt " YUCK " . My endo thinks I'm where I should be dosage wise. I know that he does check for free T3 and T4, and doesn't use the standard norms for these. Unfortunately, I tossed my last labs. I am considering asking him his opinion about Armour, or adding a little T4 also - but I get the feeling he would have offered those options already if he were willing to give them a try. What I'm really worried about is perhaps it's the Wellbutrin that I take that has me feeling so much better, and not the cytomel at all. > > Of all these lingering symptoms, the foggy thinking and these darn puffs under my eyes are the ones that bother me most. I lose 60 pounds, and have my old body back and these darned bags under my eyes won't go away! The endo says there isn't anything I can do. Tell me ladies.... is he wrong? Please say it's possible for one's face to return to normal! With some ammunition, perhaps I could persuade him to try something different. > > Thanks Janie for giving me hope for finally be whole once more. I really appreciate your suggestions! > > Leigh > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Re: Re: new to group Hi , Can't say for sure that I've been checked for either of those disorders, but I know I have Hashimoto's. Perhaps it is an edema thing, and it is definately worse in the morning. I can't say that my vision has been affected, though. I am so willing to do anything, I think I'll take 's advice and get some preparation H. As wild as it sounds, it does make sense. Ahhhh - what vanity will make you do..... Leigh Hi Leigh, Have you ever been elvauated for Thyroid Eye disease or been tested for Grave's? Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 > While the underlying problem won't be fixed, one thing to make those bags > look better is to put a little preparation H on them. Sounds silly but > helps! > I am all for home remedies, but I don't know if I'd be able to keep a straight face all day if I used prep h on my eyes...the words " butt-head " would be running through my mind all day...he he he...but that's just me, there is something intrinsicly wrong with the way my mind works (or doesn't-depending on how you look at it) seriously though, does that work? I had bad hemms after having my daughter and I didn't think it even worked for that very well. Does it really tighten the skin on your face if you put it there? I never knew that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 Hi Leigh Some folks who have Hashis also have Graves, its another autoimmune disorder of the thyroid like hashi's, but also effects the eyes. Usually folks with Graves are hyper, but some folks who have both disorders I understand can be hyper, hypo, or alternate between the two. If its just bags under the eyes, I probably wouldn't worry about it, especially if your eyes aren't protruding or bothering you other than cosmeticly. I know I hate my baggage, too. I went to work yesterday with pillow marks on my eye even though I'd been up for 2 hours, simply because the lines wouldn't pop back out. I looked kind of funny in addtion to my regular morning baggage. I get " , are you OK? " I usually say, " SURE, same as always... " and smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 There seem to be a few who have a bad reaction to T3. That can point to another problem. Adrenals are an example. You could have poorly functioning adrenals, and the only way to know is to have them tested. Poor adrenal function can go hand-in-hand with hypothyroid. On the other hand, it can simply be a synthetic problem, though I think the above is more likely. But until you try Armour, or until you get your adrenals tested, you won't really know. Additionally, unless you know that your female hormones, including testosterone, are balanced and optimal, that could also contribute to your problems. And along with the importance of getting the above tested, you may need to look at adding cytomel more gradually, or simply finding a better doc who will help you with Armour!! You are obviously still hypo. I hope others with strong knowledge will also contribute ideas here. May I also strongly suggest you get a new copy of your labs. It is very important to keep those on hand as you work on your treatment options. Janie > > We have tried increasing cytomel, but had headaches and irratability, and felt " YUCK " . My endo thinks I'm where I should be dosage wise. I know that he does check for free T3 and T4, and doesn't use the standard norms for these. Unfortunately, I tossed my last labs. I am considering asking him his opinion about Armour, or adding a little T4 also - but I get the feeling he would have offered those options already if he were willing to give them a try. What I'm really worried about is perhaps it's the Wellbutrin that I take that has me feeling so much better, and not the cytomel at all. > > Of all these lingering symptoms, the foggy thinking and these darn puffs under my eyes are the ones that bother me most. I lose 60 pounds, and have my old body back and these darned bags under my eyes won't go away! The endo says there isn't anything I can do. Tell me ladies.... is he wrong? Please say it's possible for one's face to return to normal! With some ammunition, perhaps I could persuade him to try something different. > > Thanks Janie for giving me hope for finally be whole once more. I really appreciate your suggestions! > > Leigh > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2003 Report Share Posted April 6, 2003 Hi there Lorene in the Caribbean. Glad you joined us. Well, first, it would help if you can post your lab tests, plus ranges, which you say are good. Because I suspect they are far from good!! First, your free T3 needs to be in the upper part of the range to really get the optimal results from your thyroid. Your free T4 needs to be at least mid-range. The fact that you are feeling depression and without energy tells me you probably have a low free T3. You stated that when you took Armour before, you became hyper. How much were you on? Is there a possibility that you simply took too much?? Also, have you ever had your adrenals tested?? And what about your female hormones, plus your testosterone levels?? Are you taking DHEA?? And what about Selenium?? Look forward to hearing from you. Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2003 Report Share Posted April 6, 2003 Hi, I am wondering what kind of compounded hormones you took, capsules or cream? For me, the right amount of the right type of hormones worked (capsules just about killed me whereas cream restored me to health). and then you need to add ENOUGH Armour to that, not treat to tsh test. Gracia I have just joined this group and read some of your posts.. Sorry I have not found you sooner. I am having lots of problems with my meds and would like some imput from your experiences. I am 54 past menopause and been hypo 12 plus yrs.. I have tried several combinations and still feel pretty lousy. I am taking now Unithyroid 125 and 1/2 grain Armour. I am feeling very depressed and no energy even though my lab tests are good. I don't live in the states but a small island in Caribbean. Here there are no specialists and I am educating myself through books and websites like this one. I am very curious about taking just the Armour. I tried this before but became very hyper and had joint pain. I have alos tried compounding estrogen/progest and that turned me into a B---- I experienced very bad moods swings and sweats and joint pain.. I stopped taking this and that disappeared.. I am now taking just Prog creme in the evening. I have leaned sooo much about how everything works together. After my hysto 3 yrs ago it has been downhill from there. Any help I would appreciate Thanks Lorene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2003 Report Share Posted April 6, 2003 You stated that when you took Armour before, you became hyper. How much were you on? Is there a possibility that you simply took too much?? ---And when you say hyper...what happened???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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