Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Posted May 30, 2006 Dear Pitamind, I wish that life's lessons were spread out with large spaces of peaceful calm waters, so that when the storms do hit we almost enjoy the break. For myself, I often find that when I am tossed in the vortex of pain and suffering I forget to use all of my tools and resources that I learned. In fact, it feels like I have nothing in my toolbox and that I am ill prepared to handle the current crisis. So just in case you are having a hard time floating on the surface while the tides rage all around you .... here's a gentle reminder that you have a plethera of new tools at your disposal. I particularly like the " How I Practiced ACT In Six Minutes " post you shared with us last month. I thought about it, when I posted my Tin Can in a Box derivation last week. Just one physical sensation, one emotion, one behavioral tendancy, one thought and one memory ... again, again and again. ~Em > > Dear Group, > After about a year and a half of an unhealthy relationship (one > that I've somewhat alluded to in several of my posts) , my ex - > girlfriend left me for another guy about ten days ago. We each > treated each other badly, and broke up with each other numerous > times; now she has broken up with me and is possibly re - bounding, > while I choose to sit with my pain and loneliness. I see a local ACT > therapist and he has made several suggestions, including the one > that I am currently taking ('take a step back and don't communicate > with her for a couple of weeks.') What a difficult suggestion to > take (it's been ten pain filled days!) She has attempted to > communicate with me four times since taking this suggestion (she > tried to contact me while her new boyfriend was away on vacation; I > assumed that she no longer had the security of the re - bound and > tried to get it from me?) I know this is personal stuff I'm choosing > to put out there, and I don't really care if anyone judges me for > it. My therapist is suggesting to me that moving towards a > relationship based on two people choosing each other is more > gratifying and healthier than what has just ended, a relationship > based on " NEED, " and manipulation of each other's histories to > create two people that " think " they " NEED " each other. Oh how bad I > want to call her, text her etc. Instead I am choosing to create > enough space for life to show up differently; to allow her to choose > me or not! I still hope to get back together with her, and wonder if > that is even possible, since she has a new man. I never could > control her, even when I tried; now it hurts to think she has easily > gotten over me with someone new. I suspect and prefer to think > (since I want to know that she cares about me and I meant something > to her) that this re - bound, if that's what it is, is her avoidance > strategy for coping/not coping with her pain of the break up, even > though she left me. Why am I writing this? My mind says: " because I > don't want to be alone with this. So now I live alone; with my > history of abandonment, and wanting to be important to someone. I am > walking in the rain and using an umbrella or some form of cover > fewer and fewer times. I am allowing it to rain on me while living > as if the sun is shining and will shine again. LONELINESS, my > seeming enemy has nowhere else to go, so sometimes I say " okay, just > for right now I am having this feeling of loneliness and I feel it > right here (motion to the area in my body that i feel it), then I > say " you are welcome to stay here as long as you'd like! " > > P.S. My therapist also suggested that I see a psychiatrist to get > started on anti - depressants. He suspects that there may be > something bio - chemical for me; that meds will help to make these > feelings more manageable. At first I was unwilling to take meds, > then I said I will as long as I can still feel my feelings, and not > have them be numbed nor overwhelming. > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Posted May 30, 2006 It's interesting, reading your post and hearing what you are saying with all the pain and loneliness and thoughts you are experienicing, I also noticed that you are allowing yourself to notice that what you are expeiriencing is flowing in and out of the present moment. She will do what she will do, you seem to be really sensing where your values are taking you and what your values are taking you away from. Of course you will experience pain, kind of similar to me stopping smoking cigareets (ok not the same but I can draw a parallel)- I value deeply health and vitality, but smoking is not in line with this value at all. Choosing health and vitality means letting go of smoking and I experience pain and suffering from breaking something old and familiar, but I KNOW deeply continuing to smoke only robs me of my value of health. Bel > > I wish that life's lessons were spread out with large spaces of > peaceful calm waters, so that when the storms do hit we almost enjoy > the break. > > For myself, I often find that when I am tossed in the vortex of pain > and suffering I forget to use all of my tools and resources that I > learned. In fact, it feels like I have nothing in my toolbox and > that I am ill prepared to handle the current crisis. > > So just in case you are having a hard time floating on the surface > while the tides rage all around you .... here's a gentle reminder > that you have a plethera of new tools at your disposal. I > particularly like the " How I Practiced ACT In Six Minutes " post you > shared with us last month. I thought about it, when I posted my Tin > Can in a Box derivation last week. > > Just one physical sensation, one emotion, one behavioral tendancy, > one thought and one memory ... again, again and again. > > ~Em > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > After about a year and a half of an unhealthy relationship > (one > > that I've somewhat alluded to in several of my posts) , my ex - > > girlfriend left me for another guy about ten days ago. We each > > treated each other badly, and broke up with each other numerous > > times; now she has broken up with me and is possibly re - > bounding, > > while I choose to sit with my pain and loneliness. I see a local > ACT > > therapist and he has made several suggestions, including the one > > that I am currently taking ('take a step back and don't > communicate > > with her for a couple of weeks.') What a difficult suggestion to > > take (it's been ten pain filled days!) She has attempted to > > communicate with me four times since taking this suggestion (she > > tried to contact me while her new boyfriend was away on vacation; > I > > assumed that she no longer had the security of the re - bound and > > tried to get it from me?) I know this is personal stuff I'm > choosing > > to put out there, and I don't really care if anyone judges me for > > it. My therapist is suggesting to me that moving towards a > > relationship based on two people choosing each other is more > > gratifying and healthier than what has just ended, a relationship > > based on " NEED, " and manipulation of each other's histories to > > create two people that " think " they " NEED " each other. Oh how bad > I > > want to call her, text her etc. Instead I am choosing to create > > enough space for life to show up differently; to allow her to > choose > > me or not! I still hope to get back together with her, and wonder > if > > that is even possible, since she has a new man. I never could > > control her, even when I tried; now it hurts to think she has > easily > > gotten over me with someone new. I suspect and prefer to think > > (since I want to know that she cares about me and I meant > something > > to her) that this re - bound, if that's what it is, is her > avoidance > > strategy for coping/not coping with her pain of the break up, even > > though she left me. Why am I writing this? My mind says: " because > I > > don't want to be alone with this. So now I live alone; with my > > history of abandonment, and wanting to be important to someone. I > am > > walking in the rain and using an umbrella or some form of cover > > fewer and fewer times. I am allowing it to rain on me while living > > as if the sun is shining and will shine again. LONELINESS, my > > seeming enemy has nowhere else to go, so sometimes I say " okay, > just > > for right now I am having this feeling of loneliness and I feel it > > right here (motion to the area in my body that i feel it), then I > > say " you are welcome to stay here as long as you'd like! " > > > > P.S. My therapist also suggested that I see a psychiatrist to get > > started on anti - depressants. He suspects that there may be > > something bio - chemical for me; that meds will help to make these > > feelings more manageable. At first I was unwilling to take meds, > > then I said I will as long as I can still feel my feelings, and > not > > have them be numbed nor overwhelming. > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Posted May 31, 2006 Just real quick here ... I am so, so sorry you are in such pain right now. It sucks. It sounds to me like you're being very honest with yourself and all the emotions you're feeling. You sound really brave to me! I would advise you NOT to get on the meds. They don't fix a dang thing, and they absolutely DO numb you. Just my two cents, but I would say hang in there with your own chemistry and learn from all this (as you already seem to be doing). Ginny --- pitamind wrote: > Dear Group, > After about a year and a half of an unhealthy > relationship (one > that I've somewhat alluded to in several of my > posts) , my ex - > girlfriend left me for another guy about ten days > ago. We each > treated each other badly, and broke up with each > other numerous > times; now she has broken up with me and is possibly > re - bounding, > while I choose to sit with my pain and loneliness. I > see a local ACT > therapist and he has made several suggestions, > including the one > that I am currently taking ('take a step back and > don't communicate > with her for a couple of weeks.') What a difficult > suggestion to > take (it's been ten pain filled days!) She has > attempted to > communicate with me four times since taking this > suggestion (she > tried to contact me while her new boyfriend was away > on vacation; I > assumed that she no longer had the security of the > re - bound and > tried to get it from me?) I know this is personal > stuff I'm choosing > to put out there, and I don't really care if anyone > judges me for > it. My therapist is suggesting to me that moving > towards a > relationship based on two people choosing each other > is more > gratifying and healthier than what has just ended, a > relationship > based on " NEED, " and manipulation of each other's > histories to > create two people that " think " they " NEED " each > other. Oh how bad I > want to call her, text her etc. Instead I am > choosing to create > enough space for life to show up differently; to > allow her to choose > me or not! I still hope to get back together with > her, and wonder if > that is even possible, since she has a new man. I > never could > control her, even when I tried; now it hurts to > think she has easily > gotten over me with someone new. I suspect and > prefer to think > (since I want to know that she cares about me and I > meant something > to her) that this re - bound, if that's what it is, > is her avoidance > strategy for coping/not coping with her pain of the > break up, even > though she left me. Why am I writing this? My mind > says: " because I > don't want to be alone with this. So now I live > alone; with my > history of abandonment, and wanting to be important > to someone. I am > walking in the rain and using an umbrella or some > form of cover > fewer and fewer times. I am allowing it to rain on > me while living > as if the sun is shining and will shine again. > LONELINESS, my > seeming enemy has nowhere else to go, so sometimes I > say " okay, just > for right now I am having this feeling of loneliness > and I feel it > right here (motion to the area in my body that i > feel it), then I > say " you are welcome to stay here as long as you'd > like! " > > P.S. My therapist also suggested that I see a > psychiatrist to get > started on anti - depressants. He suspects that > there may be > something bio - chemical for me; that meds will help > to make these > feelings more manageable. At first I was unwilling > to take meds, > then I said I will as long as I can still feel my > feelings, and not > have them be numbed nor overwhelming. > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Posted May 31, 2006 Ginny,Since everyone has their own biological experience and reaction to medication, I'm curious if your direct statement about meds is judgmenttal to someone suffering so much emotional pain that they can't "hang in there." What if the emotions create enough, unproductive distress that the body suffers and one can't function and take care of themselves? I think when someone like Pitamind is in such a vulnerable, raw place, its is hard to not feel the self-judgement and shame about every choice.Pitamind, I am really sorry you are in so much pain now. You are not alone, even though it feels that way. I hope you can find and rely on all your outside supports while you witness your inner stuggle. Remember that may not need to control everything right now but your feelings of needing to t to fix, fix, fix will be strong. I hope you can find compassion for yourself. Keep your options open for ways to help manage your body while you learn about your feelings? Medications can take a little while to start working, but sometimes just knowing some relief could be on the way helps things calm down in your system. It sounds like your psychotherapist is really invested in helping you stay with the giref process and learn. That is another thing to be grateful for. Again, I am sorry you are going through this and encourage you to share more with people you feel safe withbc Just real quick here ... I am so, so sorry you are in such pain right now. It sucks. It sounds to me like you're being very honest with yourself and all the emotions you're feeling. You sound really brave to me! I would advise you NOT to get on the meds. They don't fix a dang thing, and they absolutely DO numb you. Just my two cents, but I would say hang in there with your own chemistry and learn from all this (as you already seem to be doing). Ginny --- pitamind wrote: > Dear Group, > After about a year and a half of an unhealthy > relationship (one > that I've somewhat alluded to in several of my > posts) , my ex - > girlfriend left me for another guy about ten days > ago. We each > treated each other badly, and broke up with each > other numerous > times; now she has broken up with me and is possibly > re - bounding, > while I choose to sit with my pain and loneliness. I > see a local ACT > therapist and he has made several suggestions, > including the one > that I am currently taking ('take a step back and > don't communicate > with her for a couple of weeks.') What a difficult > suggestion to > take (it's been ten pain filled days!) She has > attempted to > communicate with me four times since taking this > suggestion (she > tried to contact me while her new boyfriend was away > on vacation; I > assumed that she no longer had the security of the > re - bound and > tried to get it from me?) I know this is personal > stuff I'm choosing > to put out there, and I don't really care if anyone > judges me for > it. My therapist is suggesting to me that moving > towards a > relationship based on two people choosing each other > is more > gratifying and healthier than what has just ended, a > relationship > based on "NEED," and manipulation of each other's > histories to > create two people that "think" they "NEED" each > other. Oh how bad I > want to call her, text her etc. Instead I am > choosing to create > enough space for life to show up differently; to > allow her to choose > me or not! I still hope to get back together with > her, and wonder if > that is even possible, since she has a new man. I > never could > control her, even when I tried; now it hurts to > think she has easily > gotten over me with someone new. I suspect and > prefer to think > (since I want to know that she cares about me and I > meant something > to her) that this re - bound, if that's what it is, > is her avoidance > strategy for coping/not coping with her pain of the > break up, even > though she left me. Why am I writing this? My mind > says: "because I > don't want to be alone with this. So now I live > alone; with my > history of abandonment, and wanting to be important > to someone. I am > walking in the rain and using an umbrella or some > form of cover > fewer and fewer times. I am allowing it to rain on > me while living > as if the sun is shining and will shine again. > LONELINESS, my > seeming enemy has nowhere else to go, so sometimes I > say "okay, just > for right now I am having this feeling of loneliness > and I feel it > right here (motion to the area in my body that i > feel it), then I > say "you are welcome to stay here as long as you'd > like!" > > P.S. My therapist also suggested that I see a > psychiatrist to get > started on anti - depressants. He suspects that > there may be > something bio - chemical for me; that meds will help > to make these > feelings more manageable. At first I was unwilling > to take meds, > then I said I will as long as I can still feel my > feelings, and not > have them be numbed nor overwhelming. > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Posted May 31, 2006 We've gone back and forth in this group about meds, discussing quite openly how those of us who have been on (and off) them felt. In fact, in the last round of e-mails about it the overwhelming response was to avoid them, so I felt very comfortable sharing my opinion. I am sensitive to the fact that Pitamind -- and all of us to different extents -- are in vulnerable places. That would be why I said he was " brave " and " honest " and my advice was " just my two cents. " How would you rather I get across my own personal strong belief that meds are not the answer if that is what I truly believe and what I want to share with Pitamind? Ginny --- bostoncounselor@... wrote: > Ginny, > Since everyone has their own biological experience > and reaction to > medication, I'm curious if your direct statement > about meds is > judgmenttal to someone suffering so much emotional > pain that they > can't " hang in there. " What if the emotions create > enough, > unproductive distress that the body suffers and one > can't function > and take care of themselves? I think when someone > like Pitamind is in > such a vulnerable, raw place, its is hard to not > feel the self- > judgement and shame about every choice. > > Pitamind, > I am really sorry you are in so much pain now. > You are not alone, > even though it feels that way. I hope you can find > and rely on all > your outside supports while you witness your inner > stuggle. Remember > that may not need to control everything right now > but your feelings > of needing to t to fix, fix, fix will be strong. I > hope you can find > compassion for yourself. Keep your options open for > ways to help > manage your body while you learn about your > feelings? Medications > can take a little while to start working, but > sometimes just knowing > some relief could be on the way helps things calm > down in your > system. It sounds like your psychotherapist is > really invested in > helping you stay with the giref process and learn. > That is another > thing to be grateful for. Again, I am sorry you are > going through > this and encourage you to share more with people you > feel safe with > > bc > > > > > Just real quick here ... > > > > I am so, so sorry you are in such pain right now. > It > > sucks. It sounds to me like you're being very > honest > > with yourself and all the emotions you're feeling. > > You sound really brave to me! > > > > I would advise you NOT to get on the meds. They > don't > > fix a dang thing, and they absolutely DO numb you. > > > > Just my two cents, but I would say hang in there > with > > your own chemistry and learn from all this (as you > > already seem to be doing). > > > > Ginny > > > > --- pitamind wrote: > > > > > Dear Group, > > > After about a year and a half of an > unhealthy > > > relationship (one > > > that I've somewhat alluded to in several of my > > > posts) , my ex - > > > girlfriend left me for another guy about ten > days > > > ago. We each > > > treated each other badly, and broke up with each > > > other numerous > > > times; now she has broken up with me and is > possibly > > > re - bounding, > > > while I choose to sit with my pain and > loneliness. I > > > see a local ACT > > > therapist and he has made several suggestions, > > > including the one > > > that I am currently taking ('take a step back > and > > > don't communicate > > > with her for a couple of weeks.') What a > difficult > > > suggestion to > > > take (it's been ten pain filled days!) She has > > > attempted to > > > communicate with me four times since taking this > > > suggestion (she > > > tried to contact me while her new boyfriend was > away > > > on vacation; I > > > assumed that she no longer had the security of > the > > > re - bound and > > > tried to get it from me?) I know this is > personal > > > stuff I'm choosing > > > to put out there, and I don't really care if > anyone > > > judges me for > > > it. My therapist is suggesting to me that moving > > > towards a > > > relationship based on two people choosing each > other > > > is more > > > gratifying and healthier than what has just > ended, a > > > relationship > > > based on " NEED, " and manipulation of each > other's > > > histories to > > > create two people that " think " they " NEED " each > > > other. Oh how bad I > > > want to call her, text her etc. Instead I am > > > choosing to create > > > enough space for life to show up differently; to > > > allow her to choose > > > me or not! I still hope to get back together > with > > > her, and wonder if > > > that is even possible, since she has a new man. > I > > > never could > > > control her, even when I tried; now it hurts to > > > think she has easily > > > gotten over me with someone new. I suspect and > > > prefer to think > > > (since I want to know that she cares about me > and I > > > meant something > > > to her) that this re - bound, if that's what it > is, > > > is her avoidance > > > strategy for coping/not coping with her pain of > the > > > break up, even > > > though she left me. Why am I writing this? My > mind > > > says: " because I > > > don't want to be alone with this. So now I live > > > alone; with my > > > history of abandonment, and wanting to be > important > > > to someone. I am > > > walking in the rain and using an umbrella or > some > > > form of cover > > > fewer and fewer times. I am allowing it to rain > on > > > me while living > > > as if the sun is shining and will shine again. > > > LONELINESS, my > > > seeming enemy has nowhere else to go, so > sometimes I > > > say " okay, just > > > for right now I am having this feeling of > loneliness > > > and I feel it > > > right here (motion to the area in my body that i > > > feel it), then I > > > say " you are welcome to stay here as long as > you'd > > > like! " > > > > > > P.S. My therapist also suggested that I see a > > > psychiatrist to get > > > started on anti - depressants. He suspects that > > > there may be > > > something bio - chemical for me; that meds will > help > > > to make these > > > feelings more manageable. At first I was > unwilling > > > to take meds, > > > then I said I will as long as I can still feel > my > > > feelings, and not > > > have them be numbed nor overwhelming. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Posted May 31, 2006 Only my 2 cents worth, but I wouldn't be " for " or against medication. I would be " for " compassion. If compassion and gentleness to myself means being on meds for a bit then I'd do it, but if compassion for myself meant that I thought I could sincerely handle the emotions then I would do that. Neither for or against as there will always always be reasons for and against, it's such a personal choice but compassion seems to act as a compass for me. Best to everyone and interesting thoughts, Bel > > We've gone back and forth in this group about meds, > discussing quite openly how those of us who have been > on (and off) them felt. In fact, in the last round of > e-mails about it the overwhelming response was to > avoid them, so I felt very comfortable sharing my > opinion. > > I am sensitive to the fact that Pitamind -- and all of > us to different extents -- are in vulnerable places. > That would be why I said he was " brave " and " honest " > and my advice was " just my two cents. " > > How would you rather I get across my own personal > strong belief that meds are not the answer if that is > what I truly believe and what I want to share with > Pitamind? > > Ginny > > > --- bostoncounselor@... wrote: > > > Ginny, > > Since everyone has their own biological experience > > and reaction to > > medication, I'm curious if your direct statement > > about meds is > > judgmenttal to someone suffering so much emotional > > pain that they > > can't " hang in there. " What if the emotions create > > enough, > > unproductive distress that the body suffers and one > > can't function > > and take care of themselves? I think when someone > > like Pitamind is in > > such a vulnerable, raw place, its is hard to not > > feel the self- > > judgement and shame about every choice. > > > > Pitamind, > > I am really sorry you are in so much pain now. > > You are not alone, > > even though it feels that way. I hope you can find > > and rely on all > > your outside supports while you witness your inner > > stuggle. Remember > > that may not need to control everything right now > > but your feelings > > of needing to t to fix, fix, fix will be strong. I > > hope you can find > > compassion for yourself. Keep your options open for > > ways to help > > manage your body while you learn about your > > feelings? Medications > > can take a little while to start working, but > > sometimes just knowing > > some relief could be on the way helps things calm > > down in your > > system. It sounds like your psychotherapist is > > really invested in > > helping you stay with the giref process and learn. > > That is another > > thing to be grateful for. Again, I am sorry you are > > going through > > this and encourage you to share more with people you > > feel safe with > > > > bc > > > > > > > > > Just real quick here ... > > > > > > I am so, so sorry you are in such pain right now. > > It > > > sucks. It sounds to me like you're being very > > honest > > > with yourself and all the emotions you're feeling. > > > You sound really brave to me! > > > > > > I would advise you NOT to get on the meds. They > > don't > > > fix a dang thing, and they absolutely DO numb you. > > > > > > Just my two cents, but I would say hang in there > > with > > > your own chemistry and learn from all this (as you > > > already seem to be doing). > > > > > > Ginny > > > > > > --- pitamind wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > After about a year and a half of an > > unhealthy > > > > relationship (one > > > > that I've somewhat alluded to in several of my > > > > posts) , my ex - > > > > girlfriend left me for another guy about ten > > days > > > > ago. We each > > > > treated each other badly, and broke up with each > > > > other numerous > > > > times; now she has broken up with me and is > > possibly > > > > re - bounding, > > > > while I choose to sit with my pain and > > loneliness. I > > > > see a local ACT > > > > therapist and he has made several suggestions, > > > > including the one > > > > that I am currently taking ('take a step back > > and > > > > don't communicate > > > > with her for a couple of weeks.') What a > > difficult > > > > suggestion to > > > > take (it's been ten pain filled days!) She has > > > > attempted to > > > > communicate with me four times since taking this > > > > suggestion (she > > > > tried to contact me while her new boyfriend was > > away > > > > on vacation; I > > > > assumed that she no longer had the security of > > the > > > > re - bound and > > > > tried to get it from me?) I know this is > > personal > > > > stuff I'm choosing > > > > to put out there, and I don't really care if > > anyone > > > > judges me for > > > > it. My therapist is suggesting to me that moving > > > > towards a > > > > relationship based on two people choosing each > > other > > > > is more > > > > gratifying and healthier than what has just > > ended, a > > > > relationship > > > > based on " NEED, " and manipulation of each > > other's > > > > histories to > > > > create two people that " think " they " NEED " each > > > > other. Oh how bad I > > > > want to call her, text her etc. Instead I am > > > > choosing to create > > > > enough space for life to show up differently; to > > > > allow her to choose > > > > me or not! I still hope to get back together > > with > > > > her, and wonder if > > > > that is even possible, since she has a new man. > > I > > > > never could > > > > control her, even when I tried; now it hurts to > > > > think she has easily > > > > gotten over me with someone new. I suspect and > > > > prefer to think > > > > (since I want to know that she cares about me > > and I > > > > meant something > > > > to her) that this re - bound, if that's what it > > is, > > > > is her avoidance > > > > strategy for coping/not coping with her pain of > > the > > > > break up, even > > > > though she left me. Why am I writing this? My > > mind > > > > says: " because I > > > > don't want to be alone with this. So now I live > > > > alone; with my > > > > history of abandonment, and wanting to be > > important > > > > to someone. I am > > > > walking in the rain and using an umbrella or > > some > > > > form of cover > > > > fewer and fewer times. I am allowing it to rain > > on > > > > me while living > > > > as if the sun is shining and will shine again. > > > > LONELINESS, my > > > > seeming enemy has nowhere else to go, so > > sometimes I > > > > say " okay, just > > > > for right now I am having this feeling of > > loneliness > > > > and I feel it > > > > right here (motion to the area in my body that i > > > > feel it), then I > > > > say " you are welcome to stay here as long as > > you'd > > > > like! " > > > > > > > > P.S. My therapist also suggested that I see a > > > > psychiatrist to get > > > > started on anti - depressants. He suspects that > > > > there may be > > > > something bio - chemical for me; that meds will > > help > > > > to make these > > > > feelings more manageable. At first I was > > unwilling > > > > to take meds, > > > > then I said I will as long as I can still feel > > my > > > > feelings, and not > > > > have them be numbed nor overwhelming. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote
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